1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast. It's the podcast for. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 2: The time poor parent who just once answers. 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: Now once a month we do this episode that should 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: not be called This Week in Parenting because it's not 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: done weekly. It's done monthly. It should be done this 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: Month in Parenting. 7 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 2: But it doesn't sound good. 8 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: It doesn't. This Week in Parenting is what it's supposed 9 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: to sound like. It sounds serious, doesn't it. It's time 10 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: for our dive into the news, the things that are 11 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: happening that affect parents, that affects kids, that parents want 12 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: to be across. That's our conversation for today. Five things 13 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: in record time. We've never done it this fast before, 14 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:40,959 Speaker 1: but I think we can do it this time. Kylie. 15 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: Number one, if you're going to talk about this Week 16 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: in Parenting, you can't have a conversation without naming Percy Jackson. 17 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: My name is Percy Jackson. 18 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,959 Speaker 2: Am I a troubled kid? Yeah? You could see that. 19 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: Percy Jackson. The series has been on Disney Plus for 20 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: the last couple of months. 21 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: Is this not the name on every teenage probably girl. 22 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: And tween tween girls and boys. They love Percy Jackson. 23 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: Have you watched any of it? With the kids. They've 24 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: been watching it religiously. 25 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: I have not. 26 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:10,839 Speaker 1: I haven't either. 27 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of been cute. It's actually been 28 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,559 Speaker 2: really cute because there's only one episode dropping each week. 29 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: It's like taking me back, he said, the old days. 30 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: And I love the fact that they're waiting waiting. 31 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: What did you used to wait for when you were 32 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: in year twelve? So we're going back to mid nineteen nineties. 33 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: What was the thing that you waited for more than 34 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: anything else? 35 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 2: I don't remember, Honestly, I don't remember. 36 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: You're that old. 37 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 2: No, I just don't think TV played a huge part 38 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: in my life. 39 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: So I don't know. If I want to confess this, 40 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to drag it out of me. Do 41 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: you want to know what I used to hang out 42 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: for year twelve? 43 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 2: It was Neighbors? 44 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: No no, no, no no. It was nineteen ninety three, 45 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: an episode that drops were just once a week. I 46 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: can't believe I've got to say this. I'm struggling with it. 47 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 2: Doubt it was nine year. 48 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: I used to love watching Jason Priestley and Shannon Dohity 49 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: and Luke Perry Perry how good was he? And Jenny 50 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: Garth he really. 51 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: Wasn't that good looking. I don't know. 52 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: Everyone got around and Dylan seriously used to love that show. 53 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: Every Friday night, I'd sit down as shows were on. 54 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: Then that's the only one that matters right now anyway, 55 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: Percy Jackson. The kids have been watching it like crazy. 56 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: I just want to acknowledge it. If you kids haven't 57 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: watched it, I don't think that it's nearly as good 58 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 1: as the book. It never is, so I encourage you 59 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: kids to read the book. We've told Emily, our youngest, 60 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 1: she's nine, she can't watch the show till she's read 61 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: the book, and she has picked up Percy Jackson and 62 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: started reading. 63 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: We don't believe in bribes, but this is a good one. 64 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: If the kids can read a book, it's worth Percy Jackson, 65 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: you know it's magic. You know why it's magic because 66 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: kids love to see other kids doing things without parents around. 67 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: There's this It's a safe form of risk taking, and 68 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: it highlights the kids they can actually do things independently 69 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: that they can watch. 70 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: That safe about Percy Jackson. 71 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. In a series for the I 72 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: said I haven't watched it, but that's not entirely true. 73 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: I've watched a few snippets with the kids, and I 74 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: actually think that he overcomes the obstacles and challenges that 75 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: he's got way too easily, way too quickly. I think 76 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: that I think that he needs to be taken closer 77 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: to the edge. But just on this the safe risk 78 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: packing is kind of where I wanted to pick this 79 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: up over the Christmas break, when you on the holiday 80 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: that you didn't come to with us because it was again, yeah, 81 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: on the holiday that you chose to stay home for 82 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: and just told me to take the kids away on 83 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: that holiday there. I probably still had my grammar wrong, 84 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: but everyone knows exactly what we're talking about here. You 85 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: decided to stay home because I was going to my 86 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: parents place and so I. 87 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: Could clean up all the rubble from the renovation. 88 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: Whatever story you need to tell you home, we all 89 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: know why you stayed home. Anyway, we're doing this way 90 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: too slowly. But my dad has a boat that he 91 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: hardly ever takes out. But we's got a donut. The 92 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: doughnut had holes in it, so we went and bought 93 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: a new donut. For those of you who don't know 94 00:03:58,360 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: what to donut is not a thing that you eat 95 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: it's the thing that you tie on the back of 96 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: the boat and the kids hold onto the donut, they 97 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: hold onto the tube. Yeah, and watching the kids, I 98 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: mean they were terrified. We're in open water, we're zooming 99 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: around on the central coast in the boat. The kids 100 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: are being whipped around here and flipped around there, and 101 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: they're getting shot off into water where there's jellyfish and 102 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: probably who knows whatever else in the water. And they 103 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: loved it. They loved the idea of being able to 104 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: take that risk. It was just so great. That's why 105 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: I think things like Percy Jackson are fantastic. We need 106 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: more of it for our kids. That's our first big conversation. 107 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: Point number two is a thing called power World. So 108 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: in this video we're going to be talking about power World, 109 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: the latest game to take the Internet by storm. Is 110 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: sold millions of copies in the first twenty four hours 111 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: of its release. 112 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,239 Speaker 2: What what what is cow World? 113 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: When I haven't prepped you and you just look at 114 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: me like more weirdo? Power World is Did they come 115 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: up with these names? Sounds like? Okay? So here's the thing. 116 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: PC and Xbox have this game. 117 00:04:58,279 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: It's called how It's a game. 118 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's fairly new. It's found this enormous following. 119 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: It peaked a couple of weeks ago with more than 120 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: two million players online at once. 121 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 2: What's so special about it? 122 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: Well, the reason I'm bringing this up is because they're 123 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: currently under investigation by a Nintendo's Pokemon company for intellectual 124 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: property infringement. But why gamers love Power World is this. 125 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: It does lean heavily into Pokemon. It certainly has a 126 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: ring of Pokemon about it, but Powerworld combines elements of 127 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: Fortnite and Mindcraft, and another game that's called Zelder Tears 128 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: of the Kingdom brings all of that into this wonderful 129 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: gameplay experience, and there's this survival kind of game that 130 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: kids are playing, got to collect monsters, mindful resources. Obviously 131 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: there's a lot of shooting involved in it. But the 132 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: other thing is as you're collecting all your pals, you 133 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: can butcher them for me and you can exploit them 134 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: for their label, which is not exactly what happens in Pokemon. 135 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: Nobody's killing Pikachu, but Nintendo's going up to Power World 136 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: because they think that the games developer has based their 137 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: pals on everything that COmON does. It's based on Pokemon, 138 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: but unless Ninto actually takes them to court, which at 139 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: this point they're not, They're just investigating. Power World is growing. 140 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: It's going absolutely bonkers. Eight million copies sold in just 141 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: six days. This thing is going huge. And I started 142 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: bring it up because a lot of parents are going 143 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: to be saying, oh, my kids want to play power 144 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: World now instead of Minecraft a Fortnite. And that's why 145 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: because gamers love it and it brings together a whole 146 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: lot of great elements from other games. Power World is 147 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: on the rise and kids cannot get enough. 148 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 2: Well, i have no idea what this thing is about. 149 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: I've got a name on my page, Megan the Stallion. 150 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: There's two eas there? 151 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: Is it a horse? 152 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: Meghan? Are you actually you are? I can tell from 153 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: your face? Okay, Megan the Stallion. So the has two e's, 154 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: So it's Meghan the Stallion. Meghan as a I'm a 155 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: holy the reverence, Yes, yes, reverence. Me doesn't behave quite 156 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: so reverently. So what's going on? Megan thee Stallion has 157 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: a brand new song that has hit number one on 158 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: the charts on both al Apple, Yes Apple and Spotify. 159 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: The song is called Hiss and the reason that I 160 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: wanted to bring this up is because provocative, controversial songs 161 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: make noise for our kids. They often don't tell us 162 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: about it. But if you've got a tween or teen, 163 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: especially if they're on TikTok, especially if they're on Spotify, 164 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: especially if they're counting down the charts, especially if they're 165 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: into everything that's hot in music, they will know who 166 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: Megan the Stallion is. She is best known for the 167 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: duet that she did with Cardi B. The song was 168 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: called WAP. If you don't remember the song, don't look 169 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: it up. I'm not going to sing it for you. 170 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: We're not going to play it for you. The explicit 171 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: lyrics in this song are literally the worst that I've 172 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: ever come across, especially for a song that made it 173 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: onto the charts and was like I think it was 174 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: top three or a top maybe it was even number one. 175 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: It is really degrading and extraordinarily explicit. And his her 176 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: brand new song has just hit the charts, has gone 177 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: to number one. And part of the reason that this 178 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: is two reasons that this is really really popular, number one, 179 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: really catchy song with three minutes of the most explicit 180 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: lyrics you'll ever hear. So that's the first thing. And secondly, 181 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: Meghan d Stallion is, well, she's got beef, Kylie, I 182 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: think that's what the kids say these days. Got beef 183 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: with Nicki Minaj. You know what beef is? Beef is 184 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: we No? No, no, no, don't know antagon this stick 185 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: towards each other. There's a fight. 186 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: Oh there's beef. Oh yeah. 187 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: If there's beef between two people, there's a fight. And 188 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: Nicki Minaj and Meghan the Stallion, this feud has been 189 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: all over TikTok's been all over a whole lot of 190 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: other social media platforms, very long, complicated history. When I 191 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: was in radio, I would have cared. Nowadays, I'm just 192 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: sort of staying on top of the headlines. And Minaje, 193 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: as well as a whole lot of other people, believe 194 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: that the explicit lyrics of Hiss are all about Nicki 195 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: Minaj and they're supposed to be insulting her and her husband, 196 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: and so she. 197 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 2: Sounds like she's back in her sixteen year old teenage brain. 198 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: It's all happening at school yard antics, all about Hiss. 199 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: The beef between Minaje and Meghan is believe the question I. 200 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 2: Have about all of this is when did it become 201 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 2: okay for these kind of lyrics to be plasted all 202 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 2: over the internet. I just I don't understand why our 203 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 2: kids have to be subjective to such so. 204 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: A quick tea bid, yeah, quick tangent on this. I 205 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: left radio in the early two thousands, around about two 206 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: thousand and two, two thousand and three, somewhere there. And 207 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: one of the central reasons that I left, so the 208 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: main reason I was because I was struggling as a dad. 209 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: That was the main reason. I just wanted to go 210 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: and do psychology and learn how to be a bit 211 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: of parent. But something that I don't talk about publicly 212 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: very often is that I was also really struggling from 213 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: a moral perspective with number one, what I was being 214 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: asked to do and say on the radio. And there 215 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: were a couple of shifts where I just refused to 216 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: go to work and do those shifts because of the 217 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: explicit style contests that we were running. But the second 218 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: reason was as the music director of the radio station, 219 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: I was the one who was supposed to be choosing 220 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: the music, and what I discovered was that I had 221 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: no say in the music at all. The record companies 222 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 1: brought us what the hits were going to be, and 223 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: we pretty much said, yep, so long as it fits 224 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: the format, will play it. I mean, some people won't 225 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: be offended by this at all. But there was a 226 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: song by a group called The Androids called I Want 227 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: to Do It with Madonna, and I just remember thinking, 228 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to be playing this and having my 229 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: kids listening to this and singing along with this. It 230 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: doesn't feel right to me. There was another song that 231 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: was released at the same time called It's just Paorn, Mum, 232 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: and I didn't even type the title of the song 233 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: into the computer, like I was just like, it's not 234 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: just porn, mum, and talking to mum like that, Like 235 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: I just I had massive beef with the radio industry 236 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: in the music industry about what was okay and what 237 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: was not. But I would say that there's been this 238 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: very steady degradation since the nineteen sixties nineteen seventies. It's 239 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: just gone bit by bit by bit by bit, and 240 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: standards have shifted, moray's and norms have changed, And this 241 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: is where we find ourselves now in twenty twenty four, 242 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: when parents are saying, oh my goodness, I can barely 243 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: turn some radio stations on because Megan D. Stallion is 244 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: going to be singing whap with Cardi b or Hiss 245 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: against Nicki Minaj. So that I mean, this has been 246 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 1: a several process and here's where we find ourselves. 247 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 2: The fourth thing you put on the list is pretty serious. 248 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: So let's get into this, okay. 249 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: This is from a news article that was written by 250 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: Natasha Betail. I just think she's such a smart writer, 251 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: and she wrote a piece in The Australia a couple 252 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: of weeks ago. It says this smartphone obsessions of dumbing 253 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: down Australian kids. OECD testing reveals. So I'm just going 254 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: to read a couple of paragraphs. I'll make some commentary. 255 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: You can throw your two cents worth in. Let's see 256 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 1: how we go here. Addictive online gaming and digital distractions 257 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: and dumbing down a generation of Australian teenagers as school 258 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: results stagnate at the lowest level in two decades according 259 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: to the latest global testing. The alarming link between high 260 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: tech play and declining levels of numeracy and literacy has 261 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: been spotlighted for the first time by the OECD, the 262 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, which one on Tuesday Night. 263 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: The gaming and social media use is driving poor results 264 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: in schools worldwide. OECD testing reveals that half of Australia's teenagers, 265 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: let me say that again, half of a teenagers lack 266 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: the mathematical ability expected at the age of fifteen, meaning 267 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: they would fail to convert currency or calculate the price 268 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: of an item on sale in a shop. And forty 269 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: three percent of Austraining teenagers cannot read to the minimum 270 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: standard needed to interpret information on a public transport map. 271 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm just going to put it out there. 272 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 2: I didn't have social media or a phone, but I 273 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 2: would struggle with maybe one or two of those out. 274 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: With converting of currencies, you can do that the New 275 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: Zealand New Zealand dollars a a dollar. 276 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 2: But I'm more concerned about I'm more concerned about interpreting 277 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 2: the public. 278 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: Tras not being able to read enough to understand public 279 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 1: transport maps. 280 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: No, but here's the thing, They're confusing maps that these 281 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 2: are life skills, right right. I don't remember being taught 282 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 2: those kinds of skills in school. I think about the 283 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 2: conversations we have with our kids regularly when they come 284 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: home and go, when am I ever going to use 285 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 2: use trigonomogy or whatever it is. It seems like so 286 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 2: much of what our kids are taught often doesn't feel 287 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 2: like it converts into day to day life. So this 288 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 2: to me, I mean, I'm not a scientist, but I 289 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 2: kind of feel like, are we just making a lot 290 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 2: of noise about something that is probably correlational and not causal. 291 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: Well, well, there's a couple of things. First of all, 292 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure how they're getting the data to 293 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: say that this is a causal thing, that being on 294 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: the devices is leading to these outcomes, So that's not 295 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 1: outlined in the article at all, and I'm concerned about 296 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: that conflation. The second thing is, to me, I mean, 297 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: you're concerned about what the curriculums teaching are widely shared 298 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 1: by a lot of people. But here's the sentence that matters. 299 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: Today's students are lagging a year behind students who took 300 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 1: the test twenty years ago, before the advent of smartphones 301 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: and social media. So in other words, current students globally 302 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: are performing about one year worse than they did twenty 303 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: fear years ago. And so I think the OECD is 304 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: basically saying, yeah, you know, we've got kids from eighty 305 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: one countries. They're all fifteen, there's seven hundred thousand of them, 306 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: and they're doing worse than twenty years ago. Let's point 307 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: the finger at phones. 308 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 2: So I look at life. Twenty years ago, there were 309 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: definitely families who lived at busy lives. The level of 310 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 2: complexity in our lives today is tenfold comparative. 311 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think that we can just blame phones. 312 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: I mean, we've got to look at family structure and 313 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: family breakdown. We've got to look at the fact that 314 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: there are more dual income families. 315 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 2: Was just about to say, how many kids come home 316 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 2: after school and actually have a parent in the home 317 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 2: with them and is able to kind of help them 318 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 2: through those processes. 319 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: And when you look at the economic realities, how parents 320 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: do it on one income in today's economic climate is 321 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: just phenomenal. Anyone who's doing that. 322 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: I would think a child who is obsessed with sports, 323 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 2: for instance, doesn't have to have a phone, but it's 324 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 2: always on the football field and not do it their 325 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 2: schoolwork would have the same challenges as opposed to somebody who's. 326 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: That one left. That one's not so much the case. 327 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: We see that as kids are involved in those extracurricular 328 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: structured activities and unstructured time as well, so long as 329 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: they're not in front of a screen, they actually seem 330 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: to not have the same negative impacts from an academic perspective. 331 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: But here's the critical thing. According to Natasha Bitter's article 332 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: on the OECDPS are ranking Australian now ranks tenth in 333 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: the world in maths and ninth in science and reading. 334 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 2: That's a pretty good result, don't you think. 335 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: Well, here's the top six Singapore, Macaw, Chinese, Taypey, Hong Kong, Japan, 336 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: and Korea. They're the top six. We're on par with 337 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: Britain and Ireland. We're doing better than the US and Germany, 338 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of others. I look at that and 339 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: I kind of think to myself, I don't mind being 340 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: tenth because I don't necessarily want my kids to be 341 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: living the way kids live in Singapore, Macow, Chinese typey, 342 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: Hong Kong, Japan and Korea. Like, I think we've probably 343 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: got a pretty good balance all things considered, and being 344 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: top ten, that's probably good enough for me. Nevertheless, just 345 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: wanted to highlight it. I thought it was an interesting 346 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: piece of news and was worth bringing up on this 347 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: week in parenting. 348 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 2: Well, number five is actually a little bit fun. I 349 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 2: think there's an ad that's making some noise. Compare the pair. 350 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 3: James got a whopping ata and went to UNI, where 351 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 3: he discovered parties, a scary student loan and the concept 352 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 3: of deferring. Locke chose a different pathway, a pathway he 353 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 3: built himself with his own two hands, and he got 354 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 3: paid along the way. Lockie made a deposit on a house. 355 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 3: By the time he was twenty five. James still lives 356 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 3: with his mum. You don't have to take the stairway 357 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 3: to UNI. You can build a pathway to construction construction 358 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 3: pathways dot com dot a year ern while you learn so. 359 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: Construction Skills Queensland is recruiting teenagers to train as tradees 360 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: and they've got a very provocative advertising campaign that's mocking 361 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: going to UNI because of the fact that there's gap 362 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: years and partying and blagiarism and student debt, and you're 363 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: still living at home with your parents when you're in 364 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: your twenties, whereas if you go out and get a 365 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: trade you can own your own home by the time 366 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: you're twenty five, because you've been earning all the way 367 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: through and you've been responsible. And I think it's a 368 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: really clever ad. And the University's Australia group they are 369 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: furious about it, absolutely going nuts, really mad. They're basically saying, Hey, 370 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: the federal government, you're paying for free takee for people. Now, 371 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: what about some free degrees? 372 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 2: If that's what it takes for us to get some 373 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 2: free education. 374 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: POSTS don't think I do it. The NDS is taking 375 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: any money that we could have funneled into education. I 376 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: can tell you that much for sure. Here's here's what 377 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: we know. Education matters. It's one of our most valuable assets. 378 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: You cannot get enough education. We should be encouraged encouraging 379 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: people to get education. 380 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 2: But there's not just one way to be educated. Yes, 381 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 2: and I think the conversations we're having in our own 382 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 2: home have changed so much over the last twenty years 383 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 2: as we have seen our kids go through the schooling system, 384 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 2: and what we once fell so strongly about has changed 385 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 2: as each of our children have showed different skill sets, 386 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 2: different aptitude, different desires and wants for their future. 387 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: I went to Union when I was twenty six, twenty seven, 388 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: twenty seven. I think it was maybe turning twenty eight 389 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: or something like that. You don't need to go straight 390 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: to UNI out of high school. Number one construction skills 391 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: Queensland are completely within their riots to be encouraging people 392 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: to step into to trades. University data right now, what 393 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: we've seen is that there was a five percent drop 394 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: in university admissions in twenty twenty two, looking at another 395 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: one percent last year, potentially another one or two percent 396 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: this year. So university admissions are actually dropping a little 397 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 1: bit right now. That probably has a lot to do 398 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: with what's been going on with migration and getting international 399 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 1: students into the country. But universities are worried because they 400 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: need billions of dollars to run and they need lots 401 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: and lots of students to do that. But here's the thing. 402 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: Not only do we have a skills shortage, a substantial 403 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: skills shortage, and it comes to professions and things that 404 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: university trades you for. We have got a breath taking 405 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: an overwhelming lack of tradees in this country. We can't 406 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: get enough builders, we can't build enough houses, we can't 407 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: get enough carpenters. Ever tried to call a plumber and 408 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: like getting somebody to come out and do something for 409 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: you quickly. It just doesn't happen. Once upon a time 410 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: you could make a call and you'd have someone there 411 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: the same day or the next day. Doesn't happen very 412 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: much anymore because we've just got such a shortage of 413 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: trades and they, I mean, they're charging big bucks well and. 414 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 2: They're really picky. If you don't have a job that 415 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 2: they feels worth their time and effort, they won't even 416 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 2: show up. 417 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: So we've got skills shortages across the board, and people 418 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: are being well paid usually for what they're doing there. 419 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: I just think that unions are having a big complaint here. 420 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: They need to stop putting their fees up and actually 421 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: stop the bloat universities. I've got several friends that still 422 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: work in university. I've obviously left the university sector, but 423 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: universities are breathtakingly bloated. They are spending like drunken sailors 424 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: who are back on shore, and it's not for the economy. 425 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: It's not helping, it's not what universities are for. They've actually, 426 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: in many ways forgotten what their mission is. And I 427 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: just think construction skills Queensland. You go for it, you 428 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: get those people on those skills. And for parents whose 429 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: kids are not that academically oriented right now, never ever, 430 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: ever dispute that education matters, and it matters enormously. But 431 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: let you kids know that if they're not loving education 432 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: right now, if they want to go and get a trade, 433 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: or if they want to go and do something part 434 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 1: time so they can upskill themselves, they can always go 435 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 1: back to you any later and when they're ready to 436 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 1: go back. University is a brilliant place to be. It's 437 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 1: one of the best places to be. But until then, 438 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: go out and do something productive and become competent and 439 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: capable of doing something that you can feel good about. 440 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 2: Having gone through this process from the sidelines. As I 441 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 2: watched you do it, the acknowledgment that with life experience 442 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:53,479 Speaker 2: you going into university after having had a few years 443 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 2: out of the system was such an enjoyable process. Unieds hard. 444 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 2: It's really really hard. But if you know why you're 445 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 2: there and you actually know where you want to go, yes, 446 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 2: it makes that process so much more enjoyable. 447 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, not for kids, it's for adults who are there 448 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: because they want to learn. I just think that's the 449 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: better way to go. Go and get your go and 450 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: get your trades otherwise, and help with the skills shortage 451 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: that we've got in this country. In the article that 452 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: I came across that was making a big deal about this, 453 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: they just said, UNI isn't the bill and end all. 454 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: When your kids thirty and they own their own construction 455 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: company and their house because they learned how to be 456 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: a builder and they created their own business, they'll thank you. 457 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: And I think we need to stop downplaying the value 458 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: of contra pay. Yeah, the contribution to people who are 459 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: not university educated still make to society. We just have 460 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: this elitist mentality around universities that needs to stop. It's 461 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 1: not healthy for our kids, not healthy for our society. 462 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: And there's plenty of good ways to make a living 463 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: and make a contribution. That's this week in parenting. 464 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 2: And that was the express version. 465 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: Goodness. I'm so sorry. The Happy Families podcast is produced 466 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: by and row On from Bridge Media. Craig Bruce is 467 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: our executive producer. We hope we gave you some stuff 468 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: to think about. 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