Speaker 1: On today's show, Olivia Rodgers stuns on the red carpet
Speaker 1: as ex husband Justin is spotted clubbing with models. Sarah's
Speaker 1: day ends another long term brand deal, Steph clear Smith's
Speaker 1: mortifying new text Eck and Sue strips back, and the
Speaker 1: Hailey Bebert Selena Gomez plot twist. Hello, and welcome to Outspoken.
Speaker 1: It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture
Speaker 1: years twice a week. I'm Sophie Torbert, and I am
Speaker 1: seriously reconsidering a career in party planning. I'm that confident
Speaker 1: with my Hen's party. It's not coming up for UK
Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks. I'm tiggled pink with all
Speaker 1: this Barbie stuff I've been finding on Etsy.
Speaker 2: At the moment, the.
Speaker 1: Invites are finally out, Yes, the invites are Actually I
Speaker 1: have one more to go. Sorry, Sarah if one of
Speaker 1: our if you're listening, yours is the last one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we haven't got our penis paraphernala yet. But that's my job. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's your job, because you haven't been doing much else
Speaker 1: to help me. I dropped a couple of those invites
Speaker 1: off with you. Let's not get into that. I heard otherwise,
Speaker 1: don't hang me out to dry like that. Okay, I
Speaker 1: didn't even say anything, but I've been having so much fun.
Speaker 1: I feel like the delivery guy knows me by name now,
Speaker 1: having it that much stuff dropped to my house. Well,
Speaker 1: I love that you can't keep a secret because so
Speaker 1: you keep sending me photos of like, oh, this is
Speaker 1: what the tables are gonna look, you wanted to say.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: We do control freak, so I love we do have
Speaker 1: one secret member. So yeah, a few secrets. Yeah, Well
Speaker 1: I'm excited. Well, I'm Amy Torbert and I'm obsessed with
Speaker 1: Betty's Burgers. This is clearly not sponsored, but we went
Speaker 1: there on Saturday with our mum. I've had it twice. Well,
Speaker 1: I've had it twice over the weekend, and then I'm
Speaker 1: also having it tonight. This is a very Amy Torba
Speaker 1: thing to do. Like, as soon as you find a
Speaker 1: place that you like, you will go there all the
Speaker 1: time until you're second. Branding is so cute, Yeah it is.
Speaker 1: It was amazing. It was the best burger I'd ever had.
Speaker 1: So all Sunday I was painting and I was sanding
Speaker 1: and doing all this shit outside and I was so hungry,
Speaker 1: and I felt like really ashamed because I didn't want
Speaker 1: to show my face there again because did you not
Speaker 1: tell Dale? And just not no? I was like, why
Speaker 1: didn't you just walk across the road to go to
Speaker 1: the shop. I'm like, oh, I'm just heading out. I'll
Speaker 1: just get Did you eat it in the car? Because
Speaker 1: you know, I had a shameful moment this week because
Speaker 1: Reese was away on a work trip, and whenever he's away,
Speaker 1: I'm like, stuff, I'm getting takeaway. So I drove my
Speaker 1: car to McDonald's and it's like fifteen minutes away from me,
Speaker 1: the closest one, so I didn't wanted to get cold,
Speaker 1: so I literally sat in the car park eating my
Speaker 1: mac donald Better in the hotse teenage boys walked past
Speaker 1: my car and I was like, this literally reminds me
Speaker 1: of when Kate and I both had our first boyfriends
Speaker 1: and Amy, you were feeling a bit left out and
Speaker 1: on a Friday night, you went and drove to get
Speaker 1: McDonald's and for some reason, they were doing surveys and
Speaker 1: they came up to your car and one of the
Speaker 1: questions was do you usually like to eat this alone?
Speaker 1: And do you in the car? They said, and how
Speaker 1: many people are you getting food for tonight? And I
Speaker 1: was like one? And then they're like, and will you
Speaker 1: be sharing this at home with your like will you
Speaker 1: be going home to eat with your family? And I
Speaker 1: was I lied, I was like yeah, and I'm Kate
Speaker 1: Torbert and I added to my epic night home alone.
Speaker 1: On Thursday, after mc donald's in the car, I actually
Speaker 1: started watching the new series of The cut Ashians. I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm so late to the party. But I
Speaker 1: was waiting for a free trial, but Disney Plus don't
Speaker 1: do free trials. Could our updates be any more? Thirty
Speaker 1: year Oldish watching TV and eating takeaway? Yeah, I don't care.
Speaker 2: I love it. I've been party planning. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I just want to say here too, Like when I
Speaker 3: share something saying that I feel good or that I'm
Speaker 3: happy that I've reached a certain point of being sober,
Speaker 3: it's just because I'm proud of myself and like, I
Speaker 3: never thought that I would be someone who would not drink.
Speaker 3: I used to drink every weekend, too much, every weekend.
Speaker 1: Two weeks on from a shock split from husband Justin mckeinn,
Speaker 1: Olivia Rodgers has been sharing her highs and lows from
Speaker 1: standing on the red carpet at Melbourne Fashion Week to
Speaker 1: sharing her psych appointments. It's a rollercoaster ride, Kate, what
Speaker 1: is the latest? Well, so, as you said, Olivia has
Speaker 1: been wowing everyone with her wardrobe, but Melbourne Fashion Week
Speaker 1: the Daily Mail are calling her post breakup looks her
Speaker 1: revenge wardrobe, and earlier in the week she wore this
Speaker 1: amazing bright orange Helen O'Connor maxi dress and then I
Speaker 1: think it was everyone's favorite look. This week her beautiful,
Speaker 1: sort of ballerina inspired pink blush chewel dress. And she's
Speaker 1: also been changing her look up. She's gone a little
Speaker 1: bit lighter on her hair. I think we're going to
Speaker 1: see her blonde very soon. So the only influencer who
Speaker 1: hasn't gone darker, it seems in recent times, well she
Speaker 1: kind of probably triggered everyone gotten dark. So she was
Speaker 1: actually interviewed on the red carpet and she said, I'm
Speaker 1: focusing on having a good time and living my best life.
Speaker 1: Wearing a good outfit definitely helps her confidence. It has
Speaker 1: been a hard time, but I'm getting there. With fashion
Speaker 1: week the races, it's a good time to break up.
Speaker 1: It's breakup season, as they say, did she actually say that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Wow, that's a bit of a burn.
Speaker 1: Literally the well. Amid all these fashion moments, Olivia has
Speaker 1: been giving her followers an insight into the reality of
Speaker 1: her breakup. And I think it's really good because it's
Speaker 1: easy to look at all these extravagant events that she's
Speaker 1: going to and think, oh, she must be doing okay.
Speaker 1: I think it's also is relatable, though, seeing someone putting
Speaker 1: out the best of themselves on social media, because I
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of us do that when we
Speaker 1: are going through a breakup, because you want to look like.
Speaker 2: You've moved on. You look, you're looking hot, you don't care.
Speaker 1: But as Kate said, she has been sharing the reality
Speaker 1: because she put up a photo of her in the
Speaker 1: doctor's waiting room with the caption starting the day with
Speaker 1: the pych session. I've been seeing a psychologist weekly at
Speaker 1: the moment, and he has been such an amazing support
Speaker 1: for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: She also shared a makeup free selfie on Tuesday last week, saying,
Speaker 1: my life is falling apart a little recently, but at
Speaker 1: least my skin hasn't. Now. I think she was trying
Speaker 1: to poke fun, but I do think that there is
Speaker 1: a little bit of truth behind that, because this week
Speaker 1: on Monday, she announced that she's getting a house ready
Speaker 1: to sell. So this would be so upsetting having to
Speaker 1: do all these huge things by yourself. I was shocked
Speaker 1: that she was selling the house because I I thought
Speaker 1: there must have been some deal where she got the
Speaker 1: house and Justin got their dogs Ziggy. We've got to remember, though,
Speaker 1: that this is a divorce, it's not just a breakup,
Speaker 1: so you would assume that they would be going through
Speaker 1: legal proceedings and one of the big things you'd have
Speaker 1: to do is start dividing the assets fairly. The whole
Speaker 1: thing is she might actually not want to even live
Speaker 1: in that house anymore. It might actually be a good
Speaker 1: move for her. I wonder if she might go and
Speaker 1: move in with Tully. Well, Tully's just moved into a
Speaker 1: one bedroom apartment, so I don't think so. Now. Olivia
Speaker 1: did make another big announcement on the weekend. This time
Speaker 1: it was about her sobriety. So on Friday night, Olivia
Speaker 1: was sharing lots of photos of her hosting a girl's
Speaker 1: night at her house, and fellow influencer Tully Smyth was
Speaker 1: in attendance and shared how they were both comforting one
Speaker 1: another through these difficult times, because, as we spoke about
Speaker 1: on last week's podcast, Tully's boyfriend Daniel has recently just
Speaker 1: moved to the US for a job, so they are
Speaker 1: doing long distance and it was really nice to see
Speaker 1: that Tully and Olivia were really leaning on each other
Speaker 1: and going to be a great support to one another. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought it was so nice to see as well.
Speaker 1: I think what sparked a lot of questions about Olivia's
Speaker 1: sobriety is the fact that in the photos that were shared,
Speaker 1: I even noticed that all the girls had glasses of
Speaker 1: wine and were clearly drinking, and obviously prompted a lot
Speaker 1: of followers to ask Olivia is she drinking again? And
Speaker 1: I suppose it's confusing because Olivia has really embraced like
Speaker 1: non alcoholic wine and non alcoholic gin, so I assumed
Speaker 1: maybe she was just drinking that, but she has confirmed
Speaker 1: that she is no longer a teetotal which I always
Speaker 1: find that word really fine. I hate that word because
Speaker 1: I don't drink alcohol and I don't think i've ever
Speaker 1: called myself that. It just sounds really lame. The thing
Speaker 1: is It's quite interesting because she has really made a
Speaker 1: brand for herself from not drinking.
Speaker 2: She didn't drink at her wedding.
Speaker 1: She said that she didn't drink it during her hands
Speaker 1: or any of those factivities because.
Speaker 2: She didn't need it.
Speaker 1: Well, she said that she is only having one or
Speaker 1: two drinks, but if she feels like it, then she
Speaker 1: thinks that she can have it and is comfortable doing
Speaker 1: that now. I was a little bit surprised that she
Speaker 1: made this announcement only because it can be perceived that
Speaker 1: someone is leaning on alcohol during one of these times.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, when you are going through
Speaker 1: something shit, if you just want to let your hair
Speaker 1: down and have a dance with your friends and have
Speaker 1: a fun time, there's probably nothing wrong weak I'm going
Speaker 1: to be honest. I was actually disappointed, and then I
Speaker 1: reflected on how bad that is because it's clearly her
Speaker 1: decision what she does in her life, and she has well,
Speaker 1: there's also a difference between having one or two drinks
Speaker 1: and absolutely writing herself off, because she has spoken about
Speaker 1: how she did stop drinking because following her you know,
Speaker 1: big nights out, she would have a lot of anxiety afterwards,
Speaker 1: which she was only made worse. And I think that
Speaker 1: that was my initial concern. I saw that she said
Speaker 1: that she was no longer you know, sober or what,
Speaker 1: and that's what I was thinking too, because she's going
Speaker 1: through a really hard time in her life, and she
Speaker 1: did speak a lot about having debilitating anxiety, and also
Speaker 1: that she was feeling so much better her mental health
Speaker 1: and her physical health was better when she wasn't drinking.
Speaker 1: So I think that's why I'm feeling protective, because I'm like,
Speaker 1: I just want the best for herself.
Speaker 2: It's just going to be a one off thing.
Speaker 1: It's not like she's an alcoholic, though she's been. I've
Speaker 1: spoken a lot about the fact that it wasn't good
Speaker 1: for her, and I think I mean, in hindsight now
Speaker 1: thinking back to some of those interviews, she spoke a
Speaker 1: lot about how drinking alcohol would make her and justin fight,
Speaker 1: and to me, it's sort of a few red flags there,
Speaker 1: and now that we know what happened, but maybe she
Speaker 1: feels comfortable to drink now that she's not in that relationship.
Speaker 1: It's a bit like during COVID everyone was like, hey,
Speaker 1: just eat what you want to be able to get
Speaker 1: through it. I feel like that's kind of what she's
Speaker 1: going through. She's like, Okay, I need a drink with
Speaker 1: my friends to unwind. She's having this terrible time. So
Speaker 1: I know, but I'm just think I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think it was disappointing because I think the sobriety messaging
Speaker 1: was so strong and as so I've said, a part
Speaker 1: of her brand, and I feel for her that she
Speaker 1: is needing.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think she's needing.
Speaker 1: I think that she now realizes that she's gone for
Speaker 1: a year or so without having it and now she's
Speaker 1: in a space in her life where she can have
Speaker 1: one or two drinks and not go crazy. And also
Speaker 1: I think the thing is it was pretty bold of
Speaker 1: her to be honest with everyone about it, because I
Speaker 1: can imagine if you've made that your brand, then it
Speaker 1: would be quite scary to tell every I mean, she's
Speaker 1: already telling everyone all of this information about her life
Speaker 1: that would and that she probably wanted to tell people,
Speaker 1: so she doesn't get in those situations how she's caught out. Now.
Speaker 1: I think we do have to touch on what Justin
Speaker 1: is up to, because last weekend he was spotted partying
Speaker 1: with two models at bar Bambi of all places. So
Speaker 1: a photo on Instagram has popped up of Justin with
Speaker 1: the nightclub owner Nick Russian, alongside two models who are
Speaker 1: Brooke Bailey and Chavon Stindle. Now I've had a stalk
Speaker 1: of the two Instagram models accounts and it's quite interesting
Speaker 1: because Justin follows them, but they don't follow Justin back.
Speaker 1: I also noticed that Justin and Olivia are no longer
Speaker 1: following each other, and I do wonder if that is
Speaker 1: down to the fact that, to be honest, Justin's coming
Speaker 1: across as a complete dick on his Instagram. He've been
Speaker 1: posting some really insensitive stuff. This insta story popped up
Speaker 1: where it looked like he was out on a date
Speaker 1: with someone, so he zoomed in on him holding someone's hand,
Speaker 1: and then he zoomed out to reveal that it was
Speaker 1: Dale Thomas, which is an ex footy play and one
Speaker 1: of his friends. But wasting. Yeah.
Speaker 2: When I saw the Instagram.
Speaker 1: Post, my heart dropped. I was like, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: is he with a girl. It's obvious he's got a
Speaker 1: lot of new followers because everyone, of course wants to
Speaker 1: go over and check out his photos and what he's doing.
Speaker 1: And I feel like maybe he's got a bit of
Speaker 1: a big head.
Speaker 2: He's enjoying it the attention.
Speaker 1: He accepts follow requests instantly, because I went and followed
Speaker 1: him and my finster and it was like, literally within
Speaker 1: one second, he accepted the request. He also posted this weekend,
Speaker 1: we shared a photo of him and Ziggy, their dog,
Speaker 1: and put notorious duo, and I'm like, is this really
Speaker 1: just trying to get a reaction out of Olivia. I
Speaker 1: saw a friend wrote under the post up to no
Speaker 1: good and justin liked it. I also saw a woman
Speaker 1: write cute couple, which he also liked. I just feel
Speaker 1: like saying, get off your Instagram at the moment. I
Speaker 1: know that Olivia is on hers, but I think that
Speaker 1: what he's been posting is quite insensitive and not in
Speaker 1: a good time. I think Olivia is winning the Instagram
Speaker 1: battle because not only is she looking absolutely stunning in
Speaker 1: all of her quote revenge wardrobe, but she's also sharing
Speaker 1: the reality of it and being really raw with her followers.
Speaker 1: That I think is going to put her in good
Speaker 1: steed in terms of a social media response. I really's
Speaker 1: making himself Loo look a complete dick. I really hope
Speaker 1: that she has actually blocked justin so she feels open
Speaker 1: to share what she wants and not feel bound to
Speaker 1: him being able to view it. Yeah. No, And then
Speaker 1: also even worse, this is not work related, but I'm
Speaker 1: fairly sure it's up there with the most embarrassing thing
Speaker 1: that's ever happened to me.
Speaker 2: I sent that food to my mum and dad.
Speaker 1: Steph clare Smith has shared the mortifying moment she accidentally
Speaker 1: sent both her parents a nude photo. Okay, how did
Speaker 1: this happen? Or I've got to go back to the start.
Speaker 1: So on Stephan Laura's podcast, The Kickpod, they had a
Speaker 1: listener send in a work dilemma. So this poor listener had,
Speaker 1: you know, when you go on Messenger and you can
Speaker 1: open up all the photos that you've sent. This girl
Speaker 1: was showing a co worker a photo of her partner's tattoo.
Speaker 1: All of these other explicit videos and photos ended up
Speaker 1: coming up as.
Speaker 2: She did that.
Speaker 1: So Steph said she had a similar experience back when
Speaker 1: she was she was modeling full time, and she had
Speaker 1: her WhatsApp messages open on a message that she'd sent
Speaker 1: to Josh, except she forgot that she'd sent him a
Speaker 1: nude earlier, so she thinks the makeup artist saw it.
Speaker 1: Now it gets a lot worse because that the nude
Speaker 1: scandals don't stop there. Steph went to send Josh a
Speaker 1: nude and this is when Steph had moved out of
Speaker 1: home and was living by herself, so she sent Josh
Speaker 1: this nude but it ended up being text to both
Speaker 1: her parents.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I actually didn't actually go into how she did it,
Speaker 1: but Laura butted in and said, yeah, and you send
Speaker 1: it to me as well. And I'm like, why is
Speaker 1: Steph sending me in nude? And Steph was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I just sent this photo to my parents.
Speaker 1: What do I do? So Laura rushed over to Steph's
Speaker 1: house and they were sitting on her bed trying to
Speaker 1: work out what to do, and they're like, you can't
Speaker 1: understand it, like retrieve the message because both of her
Speaker 1: parents had automatic download on photos. So her mum ended
Speaker 1: up replying saying I don't think we needed to see that.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I mean I think it'd be bad enough sending it
Speaker 1: to your mum but also your dad. That's a double
Speaker 1: reckon in that instance. You just ring them immediately be like,
Speaker 1: do not look at your phone. I actually sent you
Speaker 1: something like I'll come over and delete it or something. Well,
Speaker 1: it would be hard not to click on the message.
Speaker 1: What would you guys do in that situation. I think
Speaker 1: I'd throw my phone into the river and then just
Speaker 1: disappear for a few years. I don't think there's much
Speaker 1: you could do in that situation. Well, thankfully our dad's
Speaker 1: phone is always turned off. Oh yeah, they could worry
Speaker 1: about that, so you'd probably just destroy his phone. You
Speaker 1: just get to ham to it or something. I suppose
Speaker 1: it depends where they lived, like how close they lived
Speaker 1: to you. If you were in close enough proximity, I
Speaker 1: think you would come over and try and destroy their
Speaker 1: phones first. I don't know. I think could you come
Speaker 1: up with a story as to why it was sent? Like,
Speaker 1: is there any possible.
Speaker 2: Kat your explanation?
Speaker 1: You're always sending us photos of like something on your
Speaker 1: neck or like some mark that you're concerned about. Oh sorry,
Speaker 1: I super ful nude because I's been concer about this
Speaker 1: bowl on my deck. Yeah. I don't think your parents
Speaker 1: would be believing any of that. But you just have
Speaker 1: to never ever ever talk about it again. Isn't that bad?
Speaker 1: Because Steph's always in that launing Gerie photo, So it's
Speaker 1: kind of like your parents have seen it all before.
Speaker 1: I think it's different though, end provocative nude, like I'm
Speaker 1: sure it wasn't just like a flash of their boobs,
Speaker 1: Like I'm sure there was something going on in the photo.
Speaker 2: I think it's also.
Speaker 1: Worse when you know that that person was sending it
Speaker 1: to their partner. Yeah, like you know that the intention
Speaker 1: was there. Parents, they've also had to listen to that
Speaker 1: podcast about them talking about having sex for a month
Speaker 1: or whatever it was. I think they'll just be tuning
Speaker 1: out of their podcast. We just talk about how long
Speaker 1: it took me to get ready this morning, Like this
Speaker 1: looks just like casual jump in the car chill.
Speaker 2: That's the look I'm going for.
Speaker 1: But that's not what happened. Beauty brand Lebang Body has
Speaker 1: announced its ending its three year collaboration with self proclaimed
Speaker 1: holistic health Princess Sarah's Day. So if I've never seen
Speaker 1: a brand announced they were parting ways with someone like
Speaker 1: this before, Yeah, it's really odd because usually when a
Speaker 1: brand collaboration ends, it's not highly publicized like this that all.
Speaker 1: Usually the brand moves on and they get a new
Speaker 1: ambassador and we sort of stop hearing this influence to
Speaker 1: talk about this life changing product. A little bit like
Speaker 1: what happened when Sarah's Day stopped working with Loving Earth
Speaker 1: and we never saw eating their chocolate again, and when
Speaker 1: they stopped driving masters. Yeah, yeah, Well, Libang is using
Speaker 1: this as a huge marketing opportunity. They're putting all these
Speaker 1: posts saying that all good things must come to an end,
Speaker 1: and they're having this huge seventy percent of sale to
Speaker 1: celebrate the collaboration ending. So instead of saying an end
Speaker 1: of years sale, they're saying it's an end of collaboration sale.
Speaker 1: So on Instagram, lo Bag wrote end of collaboration sale,
Speaker 1: save up to seventy percent off the Sarah's Day's entire range.
Speaker 1: They continued saying, we want to take a moment to
Speaker 1: say a huge thank you to Sarah's Day for taking
Speaker 1: a chance on our business and helping us grow and
Speaker 1: create such a beautiful skincare range. We have had the
Speaker 1: best time creating these amazing products over the last three years.
Speaker 2: What a journey it has been.
Speaker 1: Thank you, which translates to we have so much stock
Speaker 1: left over that we can't get rid of here's seventy off.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also, it kind of screams to me that maybe the
Speaker 1: marketing manager didn't love working with Did she got out
Speaker 1: that weird? Was it a hand cream or something that
Speaker 1: clearly didn't sell?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: She did sell all that. I mean, I bought some
Speaker 1: of her deodorant, and I was using it for a while,
Speaker 1: and then I kind of realized that I didn't want
Speaker 1: to support her, so I've moved on to a frank
Speaker 1: body natural le. I assumed it was a financial decision
Speaker 1: for the brand to move on, because I'm sure that
Speaker 1: she would have been on a hell of a lot
Speaker 1: of money for a collaboration like this, and initially they
Speaker 1: would have partnered with her to get exposure. But now
Speaker 1: that they have built a following of loyal customers who
Speaker 1: really enjoy their products, I don't think they need her
Speaker 1: any It's not selling clearly because I've got so much
Speaker 1: to get rid of it, But I do think that's
Speaker 1: the case. I think that it is selling because there
Speaker 1: were so many people commenting underneath please please don't get
Speaker 1: rid of the deodorant, and there's this like pity party
Speaker 1: deodorant quite good, yeah, And everyone was saying please don't
Speaker 1: get rid of it. And underneath every question about the deodorant,
Speaker 1: le Bag was saying stay tuned everyone. So clearly what
Speaker 1: they're doing is they're bringing out their ownant, which will
Speaker 1: have the exact same ingredients, but it would just be
Speaker 1: completely rebranded and Sarah's day won't be getting her huge
Speaker 1: cut of all. It's obvious that she's got nothing to
Speaker 1: do with this end of collaboration.
Speaker 2: She's not promoted at all.
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's necessarily because the product isn't popular.
Speaker 1: They're probably just trying to get rid of the dregs.
Speaker 1: Why would you enjoy it there? Obviously you have paid
Speaker 1: her a lot of money previously. Well maybe if she
Speaker 1: was selling everything and she was worth it, you would
Speaker 1: keep her on as an Yeah, but I think that
Speaker 1: they've got the exposure that they wanted out of her.
Speaker 1: But I do think that her products maybe are taking
Speaker 1: a little bit more than they used to. I think
Speaker 1: everything used to sell out, like for example, when she
Speaker 1: had her collaboration with White Fox. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: she still is in partnership with her active wear Rangers,
Speaker 1: but I remember they used to sell like hotcakes, and
Speaker 1: now there are sales for those products. There used to
Speaker 1: be never any sales for Sarah's Lebang products. I think
Speaker 1: maybe she started bringing too many different things out and
Speaker 1: people get sick of being sold at there all the time.
Speaker 1: There was some hamper of her products, and I think
Speaker 1: when it was released it was about one hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty dollars, and now they're being sold for thirty dollars.
Speaker 1: So I feel like there are so many products that
Speaker 1: haven't been sold. I did love how desperate a couple
Speaker 1: of the users sounded. It reminded me of if Max's
Speaker 1: studio Fixed Foundation went out of like you know, went
Speaker 1: out of business, and I would be trying to get
Speaker 1: my hands on as much of it as possible. Because
Speaker 1: a few people were like, I've bought nine of these
Speaker 1: to stock up and one use it. They said, it's
Speaker 1: particularly concerning the fact that Pity Party deodorant was such
Speaker 1: a revolutionary product that so many people love and call
Speaker 1: their holy grail. Why the sudden end of collaboration. What
Speaker 1: will be happening with these beloved formulas? Will they be
Speaker 1: taken on by Lebang without Sarah's name on it? If
Speaker 1: any of those panicked people are listening to the podcast,
Speaker 1: I understand. I did use that deodorant for probably a
Speaker 1: year and a half go to Frank Body's deodorant or
Speaker 1: nut One Dish used it and Brandon told me I
Speaker 1: literally smelled like bo that I had to get.
Speaker 2: You have to go through it.
Speaker 1: I think you have to go through the process of
Speaker 1: your body getting form. I was on that natural GeoDa
Speaker 1: for ages. Do you know what's best role on Dove Deodan?
Speaker 2: I love roll on deodorant.
Speaker 1: There's a few options there that you can try. What
Speaker 1: is strange is Sarah is yet to comment on this sale.
Speaker 1: She didn't like the post that she was tagged in
Speaker 1: them thanking her for three years of work. It's quite
Speaker 1: clear that she's not going to address the fact that
Speaker 1: she is parting ways with Lebang. I will be interested
Speaker 1: to see though, because a couple of months ago, on
Speaker 1: Sarah's podcast The Health Code, she and Kurt spoke about
Speaker 1: this blacklist of brands that they have, So they've blacklisted
Speaker 1: a whole range of people that they used to work
Speaker 1: with in the past. So Kurt said on the podcast
Speaker 1: that she should name and shame the brands, and she
Speaker 1: said that she didn't want to get sued, so she
Speaker 1: was going to stay quiet on exactly who they were,
Speaker 1: but she did go on to say that one of
Speaker 1: the brands in question treated her like a punching bag,
Speaker 1: and she was encouraged by friends to take legal action
Speaker 1: because they owed her a whole lot of money. But
Speaker 1: she hasn't actually worked with that many brands, So even
Speaker 1: by her telling this story, you can kind of work
Speaker 1: out just probably worked with what a handful of brands.
Speaker 1: The thing is, you can't defame a brand, you can
Speaker 1: only defame a person, So I mean she could have
Speaker 1: named them, Well, she was kind of defaming a person
Speaker 1: because she was speaking lengths about one of the brand
Speaker 1: managers who she didn't like, who said she was really.
Speaker 2: Rude to her.
Speaker 1: Anyway, let's go through some of the brands that she
Speaker 1: does no longer work with. So one of them is
Speaker 1: Bondie Sands, one of my faves because she cracked the shits,
Speaker 1: remember because she did a video for Bondie Sands after
Speaker 1: her pregnancy with Fox and she didn't like how she looked.
Speaker 1: Another one, as you touched on Kate in the beginning,
Speaker 1: is Loving Earth, so she no longer works with them.
Speaker 1: They were huge. I used to be on a channel
Speaker 1: all the time. It's funny when you go back and
Speaker 1: watch old videos. It was just like add no dislosure
Speaker 1: of it. I remember trying that chocolate back in the
Speaker 1: day and it kind of tasted like candles. I think
Speaker 1: it all tastes like you know, when you have chocolate
Speaker 1: and you've just had a drink of water.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The other brand that.
Speaker 1: Is quite highly publicized that she used to work with
Speaker 1: this Mazda. So they apparently stopped working with Mazda because
Speaker 1: they went off and bought their own very luxe car
Speaker 1: so they didn't need to be driving around in a
Speaker 1: free Mazda anymore. He's the only brand, like og brand left,
Speaker 1: Tripeka that she works with. Course she only really promotes
Speaker 1: that body Bloom. Well that's her own formula. God, people
Speaker 1: will be upset if that, you know, if she cuts
Speaker 1: ties with Trapeka, because I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: use that body Bloom. I wonder if it's because she's
Speaker 1: making enough money off the app that she doesn't really
Speaker 1: need all these brand collaborations anymore. So I think the
Speaker 1: biggest one and the one that is most interesting to
Speaker 1: me is her deal with Spotify, because they've just wrapped
Speaker 1: up season two of the health Code, and they ended
Speaker 1: by saying that they may be coming back with long
Speaker 1: form episodes. So I wonder how that works within their
Speaker 1: contract because throughout their podcast there's always sort of tiny
Speaker 1: little potshots being made about that they don't like. You
Speaker 1: can tell they don't like the format. Yeah, they've signed
Speaker 1: the contract, don't had to fulfill it, but their podcast
Speaker 1: will be so much better as a longer format. Actually
Speaker 1: had a look on social Blade, which of course shows
Speaker 1: how many followers and influencer has lost or gained over
Speaker 1: the month, and in the past month alone, Sarah has
Speaker 1: dropped four thousand, two hundred and sixty followers. However, I
Speaker 1: did see the other day that she gained over seven
Speaker 1: hundred followers, which was a bit odd because every other
Speaker 1: day she'd lost a thanks she put it out of
Speaker 1: vlog that day, so it really shows that when she's
Speaker 1: engaging with her audience and creating content, she's gaining new followers.
Speaker 1: But because she has been so inactive on her YouTube
Speaker 1: and her social channels, that's when people lose interest and
Speaker 1: don't want to buy into her life anymore. I noticed
Speaker 1: that back in March, when she gave birth to Malachi,
Speaker 1: she jumped twenty six thousand followers. That doesn't actually surprise
Speaker 1: me though, because the baby sell. It just shows how
Speaker 1: big those life moments are for actually attracting followers and money.
Speaker 3: It does look like David and You are fitted for
Speaker 3: each otter since he chose your pumpcakes.
Speaker 2: As much as Mt mac can.
Speaker 1: And that's Ali's were about. Filede Love Islands, eck and
Speaker 1: Sue has revealed she's ditching the lip fillers and opting
Speaker 1: for a more natural look.
Speaker 2: Amy. This is very reminiscent of Molly May.
Speaker 1: It really is, because back in December twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: Molly famously dissolved her lip fillers and got rid of
Speaker 1: her composite bonding, and now Eken wants to do the same.
Speaker 1: So apparently Eken watching herself back on Love Island prompted
Speaker 1: her decision to go natural, as well as being mindful
Speaker 1: of the young girls who look up to her. I'm
Speaker 1: really surprised because from my understanding, Ecken Sue when and
Speaker 1: God all these procedures done to appear on Love Island,
Speaker 1: So it's weird that she's now watched it back and thought, hmm,
Speaker 1: I don't like that she has really done a backflip
Speaker 1: because she got breast in plants and also veneers before
Speaker 1: going into the villa. But this is what she had
Speaker 1: to say about it. So she said, I'm going back
Speaker 1: to my natural roots. I'm getting rid of my lip fillers.
Speaker 1: I'm against all this stuff. Now, Fellers can make you
Speaker 1: look worse. I can see that I haven't had anything
Speaker 1: major done to myself except the lips and the boobs.
Speaker 1: Women look up to me. Girls look up to me,
Speaker 1: So why should I be fake? Be yourself. That's why
Speaker 1: I've gone dark, because the real Ekin is dark. I
Speaker 1: think natural beauty is a lot prettier. I think it's
Speaker 1: an interesting message because from reading between the lines, to
Speaker 1: get on Love Island, you almost it feels like have
Speaker 1: to have these procedures done for the produce. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: have to look a certain way in order to fit
Speaker 1: the bill of what Love Island expects. And I do
Speaker 1: find it quite interesting because a lot of the commentary
Speaker 1: surrounding Eke and Sue was that a lot of people
Speaker 1: thought she was lying about her age and that she
Speaker 1: was actually a lot older than twenty seven. And I
Speaker 1: wonder if she's thinking, Wow, all of these cosmetic procedures
Speaker 1: have actually made me look older, not younger. Also, a
Speaker 1: lot of commentary when photos emerged of what she looked
Speaker 1: like pre surgery was that she was unrecognizable. So I
Speaker 1: am wondering how far she'll actually go in reversing some
Speaker 1: of these procedures, because with Molly May, she certainly looks better,
Speaker 1: but she still was a bit shy to show off
Speaker 1: her natural teeth when she got the composite bonds. I
Speaker 1: think he's gone back and got more. I think Eckin
Speaker 1: looks stunning. I don't think she's gone too far. I
Speaker 1: think Molly May went a bit far with the feelers,
Speaker 1: to the point where her she didn't really look like
Speaker 1: herself anymore, only twenty one years old, and she looked
Speaker 1: a lot older. And I think it's interesting that you
Speaker 1: said that so because maybe eck and Seue is thinking,
Speaker 1: if I reverse some of the things, I might look
Speaker 1: a little bit more youthful. I do feel for a
Speaker 1: lot of the women coming out of Love Island, because
Speaker 1: I feel like their looks are up for judgment and
Speaker 1: it'll be really hard coming out of there with the
Speaker 1: amount of troll comments that they receive, particularly with Eckin
Speaker 1: Sue being told that she looks so much older than
Speaker 1: she is, of course you'd reflect on perhaps what you'd
Speaker 1: had done, even though I actually think the work that
Speaker 1: she's had done looks pretty good. Yeah, I think she
Speaker 1: looks very good at the moment. I do think though,
Speaker 1: that there are some things that maybe she could pull
Speaker 1: back a little bit that make her look more natural,
Speaker 1: as she said, dyeing her back to her color. I
Speaker 1: do think it's rather interesting that Molly May and Eck
Speaker 1: and Sue were the standouts of their season, and potentially
Speaker 1: now they're feeling because they've got so many fans, probably
Speaker 1: people telling them how great they're look and how beautiful
Speaker 1: they are inside and out. Maybe that's why they're now
Speaker 1: feeling confident enough to strip themselves.
Speaker 2: Back a bit.
Speaker 1: Just back to your point, Sophie, you said how you
Speaker 1: kind of have to look a certain way to be
Speaker 1: on Love Island. Molly May has been wanting to distance
Speaker 1: herself from the show since she got off the show.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's the same with Ekin because she
Speaker 1: recently spoke out in an interview and said that she
Speaker 1: wants to be on Coronation Street because she was, of
Speaker 1: course on that Turkish soap opera. So I watched Coronation
Speaker 1: Street and everyone sort of just looks more normal, They're
Speaker 1: more natural looking. So I wonder if it's actually for
Speaker 1: her career progression. She's thinking I need to strip back
Speaker 1: and get rid of the lick fillers, or someone has
Speaker 1: said to her, like a casting agent, you can't be
Speaker 1: having all that work done well. As an actor, you
Speaker 1: also have to show a lot of expression in your
Speaker 1: face for it to be believable.
Speaker 2: So maybe that also does come.
Speaker 1: Maybe she doesn't want to look like ekin sewer off
Speaker 1: Love Island either to appear on Coronation Street, because maybe
Speaker 1: she wants to be taken more seriously as an app
Speaker 1: was anyone else shocked that she didn't get the new
Speaker 1: hosting gig for Love Island UK because everyone thought that
Speaker 1: she was going to replace Caroline Because I think they
Speaker 1: need someone that is separate to the hype of Love
Speaker 1: Island in a way, like they need a more I
Speaker 1: feel like Caroline and also Laura a bit more. We're
Speaker 1: a bit more serious, older, like they weren't the same
Speaker 1: age as all the contestants. They they're kind of more
Speaker 1: like a cool big sister to the group. Rather than
Speaker 1: being a contestant. I think Ekin would have been great, though.
Speaker 1: I actually think it's a silly movement that they should
Speaker 1: have got her. Ecken's actually set to be in that
Speaker 1: Celebs Dancing on Ice. All of them seem to do
Speaker 1: that when the show coming out. I think it's coming
Speaker 1: out soon. Apparently they'd want to hurry that up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean even I'm losing interest a bit. I'm just
Speaker 1: worried they'll break up before the can keep my hands
Speaker 1: to myself. Selena Gomez and Hailey Bieber have broken the
Speaker 1: Internet after appearing in a photo alongside one another.
Speaker 2: Amy.
Speaker 1: This comes just weeks after Hailey Bieber's much hyped interview
Speaker 1: with Call Her Daddy. That's right, so in late September,
Speaker 1: I'll just refresh everyone's memories. Haley spoke out about the
Speaker 1: vicious trolling she'd been receiving since her engagement and subsequent
Speaker 1: marriage to Justin Bieber, and in this interview, she also
Speaker 1: denied rumors that her relationship with Justin Bieber had overlapped
Speaker 1: with Selena Gobers. Very importantly, she never mentioned Selena's name.
Speaker 1: It was always Justin's X or her or she and
Speaker 1: I almost thought this would actually rignite more of a
Speaker 1: fight between the two and call her Daddy's host Alex
Speaker 1: Cooper said something along the lines to Haley like, Oh,
Speaker 1: it would be great if Selena could put an end
Speaker 1: to this. Even if she just did a love heart
Speaker 1: comment under one of your posts. I feel like it
Speaker 1: would tell all of the haters to get lost. She's
Speaker 1: done a lot more than that. They were photographed at
Speaker 1: the Academy Museum gala, several photos of them embracing looks
Speaker 1: like they're holding hands, all chummy, cheek to cheek. I
Speaker 1: was shocked when I saw this. This photo is going
Speaker 1: to go down in celebrity history as being so iconic.
Speaker 1: The photographer Tyrrel Hampton who snapped this shot. He shared
Speaker 1: it on Instagram on Monday, and he perfectly captioned the
Speaker 1: post plot twist, and the photo amassed one million likes
Speaker 1: in just nine hours. I loved reading all the comments underneath.
Speaker 1: Some of my favorites were love watching the reverse of
Speaker 1: global warming and Everybody's skin clearing from this pick, and
Speaker 1: another said Tyrrell's photographed history, this will be your most
Speaker 1: iconic pick of the year. And my favorite was justin
Speaker 1: Bieber's new wallpaper. I like the one that said the
Speaker 1: way Hailey Bieber and Selena Gomez have done more for
Speaker 1: world peace than the majority of the politicians in the world.
Speaker 1: I never thought I would see the day when the
Speaker 1: two of them were pictured together. Can you imagine how
Speaker 1: fuck do it actually be to have a photo with
Speaker 1: your partner's ex? Yeah, well you have, I have this,
Speaker 1: But that's a long story. But I actually thought that
Speaker 1: this would only happen if Hailey broke up with just Like.
Speaker 1: I didn't see this happening when she was with Justin.
Speaker 1: I think it's a really classy look for Selena Gomez
Speaker 1: because she seems so lovely. She does, and she's got
Speaker 1: her much hyped Netflix docco series coming out, so it's
Speaker 1: a bit of a stroke of pr genius. Oh, this
Speaker 1: is definitely due to the fact that the docco's coming.
Speaker 1: Is that, because in a way, wouldn't we prefer to
Speaker 1: see this photo after Selena's docco? Like it's a bit
Speaker 1: it's making everyone even more interested in it, and it's
Speaker 1: making Selena look like the bigger person because obviously she's
Speaker 1: reached out to Haley after this interview and has wanted
Speaker 1: to men think, Yeah, it definitely makes her look like
Speaker 1: the bigger person, but it doesn't really create the hype
Speaker 1: as much around the DOCCO. I get what you mean,
Speaker 1: because we've seen the interview with Haley. We've heard and everyone,
Speaker 1: what are they going to hate each other? And then
Speaker 1: it's like all of Selena's fans would be glued and
Speaker 1: wanting to see her bitch about Haley. Don't we all
Speaker 1: now want to find out why they're now friends?
Speaker 2: True?
Speaker 1: Maybe this is all for the docco. Like maybe the DOCCO.
Speaker 1: I think they've been filming Selena for like eight years.
Speaker 1: I wonder if they were at this event and they've
Speaker 1: recorded all of it. I do also love the narrative
Speaker 1: of this photo. It's women supporting women rather than being
Speaker 1: pitted against each other. It's like they've kind of called
Speaker 1: bullshit on the way it was just another event. He
Speaker 1: was taking the photo. Now that's another plot twist. Well,
Speaker 1: I think that is all we have time for. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much for joining us for today's episode. It
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