WEBVTT - Olivia Roger’s Roller Coaster Break Up, Steph Claire Smith’s Awkward Nude & Sarah’s Day’s End of Collaboration Sale  

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<v Speaker 1>On today's show, Olivia Rodgers stuns on the red carpet

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<v Speaker 1>as ex husband Justin is spotted clubbing with models. Sarah's

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<v Speaker 1>day ends another long term brand deal, Steph clear Smith's

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<v Speaker 1>mortifying new text Eck and Sue strips back, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Hailey Bebert Selena Gomez plot twist. Hello, and welcome to Outspoken.

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<v Speaker 1>It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture

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<v Speaker 1>years twice a week. I'm Sophie Torbert, and I am

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<v Speaker 1>seriously reconsidering a career in party planning. I'm that confident

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<v Speaker 1>with my Hen's party. It's not coming up for UK

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<v Speaker 1>in a couple of weeks. I'm tiggled pink with all

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<v Speaker 1>this Barbie stuff I've been finding on Etsy.

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<v Speaker 2>At the moment, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Invites are finally out, Yes, the invites are Actually I

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<v Speaker 1>have one more to go. Sorry, Sarah if one of

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<v Speaker 1>our if you're listening, yours is the last one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't got our penis paraphernala yet. But that's my job. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's your job, because you haven't been doing much else

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<v Speaker 1>to help me. I dropped a couple of those invites

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<v Speaker 1>off with you. Let's not get into that. I heard otherwise,

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<v Speaker 1>don't hang me out to dry like that. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even say anything, but I've been having so much fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the delivery guy knows me by name now,

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<v Speaker 1>having it that much stuff dropped to my house. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I love that you can't keep a secret because so

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<v Speaker 1>you keep sending me photos of like, oh, this is

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<v Speaker 1>what the tables are gonna look, you wanted to say.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>We do control freak, so I love we do have

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<v Speaker 1>one secret member. So yeah, a few secrets. Yeah, Well

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited. Well, I'm Amy Torbert and I'm obsessed with

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<v Speaker 1>Betty's Burgers. This is clearly not sponsored, but we went

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<v Speaker 1>there on Saturday with our mum. I've had it twice. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I've had it twice over the weekend, and then I'm

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<v Speaker 1>also having it tonight. This is a very Amy Torba

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<v Speaker 1>thing to do. Like, as soon as you find a

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<v Speaker 1>place that you like, you will go there all the

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<v Speaker 1>time until you're second. Branding is so cute, Yeah it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It was amazing. It was the best burger I'd ever had.

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<v Speaker 1>So all Sunday I was painting and I was sanding

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<v Speaker 1>and doing all this shit outside and I was so hungry,

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<v Speaker 1>and I felt like really ashamed because I didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to show my face there again because did you not

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<v Speaker 1>tell Dale? And just not no? I was like, why

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<v Speaker 1>didn't you just walk across the road to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the shop. I'm like, oh, I'm just heading out. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just get Did you eat it in the car? Because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I had a shameful moment this week because

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<v Speaker 1>Reese was away on a work trip, and whenever he's away,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, stuff, I'm getting takeaway. So I drove my

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<v Speaker 1>car to McDonald's and it's like fifteen minutes away from me,

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<v Speaker 1>the closest one, so I didn't wanted to get cold,

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<v Speaker 1>so I literally sat in the car park eating my

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<v Speaker 1>mac donald Better in the hotse teenage boys walked past

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<v Speaker 1>my car and I was like, this literally reminds me

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<v Speaker 1>of when Kate and I both had our first boyfriends

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<v Speaker 1>and Amy, you were feeling a bit left out and

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<v Speaker 1>on a Friday night, you went and drove to get

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<v Speaker 1>McDonald's and for some reason, they were doing surveys and

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<v Speaker 1>they came up to your car and one of the

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<v Speaker 1>questions was do you usually like to eat this alone?

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<v Speaker 1>And do you in the car? They said, and how

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<v Speaker 1>many people are you getting food for tonight? And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like one? And then they're like, and will you

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<v Speaker 1>be sharing this at home with your like will you

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<v Speaker 1>be going home to eat with your family? And I

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<v Speaker 1>was I lied, I was like yeah, and I'm Kate

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<v Speaker 1>Torbert and I added to my epic night home alone.

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<v Speaker 1>On Thursday, after mc donald's in the car, I actually

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<v Speaker 1>started watching the new series of The cut Ashians. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm so late to the party. But I

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<v Speaker 1>was waiting for a free trial, but Disney Plus don't

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<v Speaker 1>do free trials. Could our updates be any more? Thirty

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<v Speaker 1>year Oldish watching TV and eating takeaway? Yeah, I don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. I've been party planning. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to say here too, Like when I

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<v Speaker 3>share something saying that I feel good or that I'm

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<v Speaker 3>happy that I've reached a certain point of being sober,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just because I'm proud of myself and like, I

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<v Speaker 3>never thought that I would be someone who would not drink.

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<v Speaker 3>I used to drink every weekend, too much, every weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Two weeks on from a shock split from husband Justin mckeinn,

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<v Speaker 1>Olivia Rodgers has been sharing her highs and lows from

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<v Speaker 1>standing on the red carpet at Melbourne Fashion Week to

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<v Speaker 1>sharing her psych appointments. It's a rollercoaster ride, Kate, what

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<v Speaker 1>is the latest? Well, so, as you said, Olivia has

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<v Speaker 1>been wowing everyone with her wardrobe, but Melbourne Fashion Week

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<v Speaker 1>the Daily Mail are calling her post breakup looks her

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<v Speaker 1>revenge wardrobe, and earlier in the week she wore this

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<v Speaker 1>amazing bright orange Helen O'Connor maxi dress and then I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was everyone's favorite look. This week her beautiful,

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<v Speaker 1>sort of ballerina inspired pink blush chewel dress. And she's

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<v Speaker 1>also been changing her look up. She's gone a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit lighter on her hair. I think we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>see her blonde very soon. So the only influencer who

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't gone darker, it seems in recent times, well she

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<v Speaker 1>kind of probably triggered everyone gotten dark. So she was

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<v Speaker 1>actually interviewed on the red carpet and she said, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>focusing on having a good time and living my best life.

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<v Speaker 1>Wearing a good outfit definitely helps her confidence. It has

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<v Speaker 1>been a hard time, but I'm getting there. With fashion

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<v Speaker 1>week the races, it's a good time to break up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's breakup season, as they say, did she actually say that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Wow, that's a bit of a burn.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally the well. Amid all these fashion moments, Olivia has

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<v Speaker 1>been giving her followers an insight into the reality of

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<v Speaker 1>her breakup. And I think it's really good because it's

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<v Speaker 1>easy to look at all these extravagant events that she's

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<v Speaker 1>going to and think, oh, she must be doing okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's also is relatable, though, seeing someone putting

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<v Speaker 1>out the best of themselves on social media, because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like a lot of us do that when we

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<v Speaker 1>are going through a breakup, because you want to look like.

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<v Speaker 2>You've moved on. You look, you're looking hot, you don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>But as Kate said, she has been sharing the reality

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<v Speaker 1>because she put up a photo of her in the

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<v Speaker 1>doctor's waiting room with the caption starting the day with

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<v Speaker 1>the pych session. I've been seeing a psychologist weekly at

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<v Speaker 1>the moment, and he has been such an amazing support

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<v Speaker 1>for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>She also shared a makeup free selfie on Tuesday last week, saying,

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<v Speaker 1>my life is falling apart a little recently, but at

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<v Speaker 1>least my skin hasn't. Now. I think she was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to poke fun, but I do think that there is

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of truth behind that, because this week

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday, she announced that she's getting a house ready

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<v Speaker 1>to sell. So this would be so upsetting having to

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<v Speaker 1>do all these huge things by yourself. I was shocked

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<v Speaker 1>that she was selling the house because I I thought

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<v Speaker 1>there must have been some deal where she got the

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<v Speaker 1>house and Justin got their dogs Ziggy. We've got to remember, though,

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<v Speaker 1>that this is a divorce, it's not just a breakup,

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<v Speaker 1>so you would assume that they would be going through

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<v Speaker 1>legal proceedings and one of the big things you'd have

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<v Speaker 1>to do is start dividing the assets fairly. The whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing is she might actually not want to even live

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<v Speaker 1>in that house anymore. It might actually be a good

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<v Speaker 1>move for her. I wonder if she might go and

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<v Speaker 1>move in with Tully. Well, Tully's just moved into a

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<v Speaker 1>one bedroom apartment, so I don't think so. Now. Olivia

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<v Speaker 1>did make another big announcement on the weekend. This time

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<v Speaker 1>it was about her sobriety. So on Friday night, Olivia

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<v Speaker 1>was sharing lots of photos of her hosting a girl's

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<v Speaker 1>night at her house, and fellow influencer Tully Smyth was

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<v Speaker 1>in attendance and shared how they were both comforting one

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<v Speaker 1>another through these difficult times, because, as we spoke about

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<v Speaker 1>on last week's podcast, Tully's boyfriend Daniel has recently just

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<v Speaker 1>moved to the US for a job, so they are

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<v Speaker 1>doing long distance and it was really nice to see

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<v Speaker 1>that Tully and Olivia were really leaning on each other

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<v Speaker 1>and going to be a great support to one another. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was so nice to see as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think what sparked a lot of questions about Olivia's

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<v Speaker 1>sobriety is the fact that in the photos that were shared,

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<v Speaker 1>I even noticed that all the girls had glasses of

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<v Speaker 1>wine and were clearly drinking, and obviously prompted a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of followers to ask Olivia is she drinking again? And

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose it's confusing because Olivia has really embraced like

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<v Speaker 1>non alcoholic wine and non alcoholic gin, so I assumed

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<v Speaker 1>maybe she was just drinking that, but she has confirmed

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<v Speaker 1>that she is no longer a teetotal which I always

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<v Speaker 1>find that word really fine. I hate that word because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't drink alcohol and I don't think i've ever

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<v Speaker 1>called myself that. It just sounds really lame. The thing

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<v Speaker 1>is It's quite interesting because she has really made a

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<v Speaker 1>brand for herself from not drinking.

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<v Speaker 2>She didn't drink at her wedding.

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<v Speaker 1>She said that she didn't drink it during her hands

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<v Speaker 1>or any of those factivities because.

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<v Speaker 2>She didn't need it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, she said that she is only having one or

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<v Speaker 1>two drinks, but if she feels like it, then she

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<v Speaker 1>thinks that she can have it and is comfortable doing

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<v Speaker 1>that now. I was a little bit surprised that she

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<v Speaker 1>made this announcement only because it can be perceived that

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<v Speaker 1>someone is leaning on alcohol during one of these times.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, when you are going through

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<v Speaker 1>something shit, if you just want to let your hair

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<v Speaker 1>down and have a dance with your friends and have

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<v Speaker 1>a fun time, there's probably nothing wrong weak I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest. I was actually disappointed, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>reflected on how bad that is because it's clearly her

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<v Speaker 1>decision what she does in her life, and she has well,

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<v Speaker 1>there's also a difference between having one or two drinks

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<v Speaker 1>and absolutely writing herself off, because she has spoken about

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<v Speaker 1>how she did stop drinking because following her you know,

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<v Speaker 1>big nights out, she would have a lot of anxiety afterwards,

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<v Speaker 1>which she was only made worse. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>that was my initial concern. I saw that she said

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<v Speaker 1>that she was no longer you know, sober or what,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what I was thinking too, because she's going

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<v Speaker 1>through a really hard time in her life, and she

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<v Speaker 1>did speak a lot about having debilitating anxiety, and also

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<v Speaker 1>that she was feeling so much better her mental health

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<v Speaker 1>and her physical health was better when she wasn't drinking.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that's why I'm feeling protective, because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want the best for herself.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just going to be a one off thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like she's an alcoholic, though she's been. I've

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<v Speaker 1>spoken a lot about the fact that it wasn't good

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<v Speaker 1>for her, and I think I mean, in hindsight now

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<v Speaker 1>thinking back to some of those interviews, she spoke a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about how drinking alcohol would make her and justin fight,

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<v Speaker 1>and to me, it's sort of a few red flags there,

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<v Speaker 1>and now that we know what happened, but maybe she

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<v Speaker 1>feels comfortable to drink now that she's not in that relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a bit like during COVID everyone was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>just eat what you want to be able to get

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<v Speaker 1>through it. I feel like that's kind of what she's

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<v Speaker 1>going through. She's like, Okay, I need a drink with

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<v Speaker 1>my friends to unwind. She's having this terrible time. So

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<v Speaker 1>I know, but I'm just think I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was disappointing because I think the sobriety messaging

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<v Speaker 1>was so strong and as so I've said, a part

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<v Speaker 1>of her brand, and I feel for her that she

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<v Speaker 1>is needing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't think she's needing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that she now realizes that she's gone for

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<v Speaker 1>a year or so without having it and now she's

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<v Speaker 1>in a space in her life where she can have

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<v Speaker 1>one or two drinks and not go crazy. And also

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<v Speaker 1>I think the thing is it was pretty bold of

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<v Speaker 1>her to be honest with everyone about it, because I

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<v Speaker 1>can imagine if you've made that your brand, then it

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<v Speaker 1>would be quite scary to tell every I mean, she's

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<v Speaker 1>already telling everyone all of this information about her life

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<v Speaker 1>that would and that she probably wanted to tell people,

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<v Speaker 1>so she doesn't get in those situations how she's caught out. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we do have to touch on what Justin

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<v Speaker 1>is up to, because last weekend he was spotted partying

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<v Speaker 1>with two models at bar Bambi of all places. So

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<v Speaker 1>a photo on Instagram has popped up of Justin with

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<v Speaker 1>the nightclub owner Nick Russian, alongside two models who are

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<v Speaker 1>Brooke Bailey and Chavon Stindle. Now I've had a stalk

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<v Speaker 1>of the two Instagram models accounts and it's quite interesting

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<v Speaker 1>because Justin follows them, but they don't follow Justin back.

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<v Speaker 1>I also noticed that Justin and Olivia are no longer

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<v Speaker 1>following each other, and I do wonder if that is

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<v Speaker 1>down to the fact that, to be honest, Justin's coming

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<v Speaker 1>across as a complete dick on his Instagram. He've been

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<v Speaker 1>posting some really insensitive stuff. This insta story popped up

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<v Speaker 1>where it looked like he was out on a date

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<v Speaker 1>with someone, so he zoomed in on him holding someone's hand,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he zoomed out to reveal that it was

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<v Speaker 1>Dale Thomas, which is an ex footy play and one

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<v Speaker 1>of his friends. But wasting. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>When I saw the Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>Post, my heart dropped. I was like, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>is he with a girl. It's obvious he's got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of new followers because everyone, of course wants to

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<v Speaker 1>go over and check out his photos and what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like maybe he's got a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a big head.

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<v Speaker 2>He's enjoying it the attention.

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<v Speaker 1>He accepts follow requests instantly, because I went and followed

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<v Speaker 1>him and my finster and it was like, literally within

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<v Speaker 1>one second, he accepted the request. He also posted this weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>we shared a photo of him and Ziggy, their dog,

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<v Speaker 1>and put notorious duo, and I'm like, is this really

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to get a reaction out of Olivia. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw a friend wrote under the post up to no

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<v Speaker 1>good and justin liked it. I also saw a woman

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<v Speaker 1>write cute couple, which he also liked. I just feel

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<v Speaker 1>like saying, get off your Instagram at the moment. I

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<v Speaker 1>know that Olivia is on hers, but I think that

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<v Speaker 1>what he's been posting is quite insensitive and not in

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<v Speaker 1>a good time. I think Olivia is winning the Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>battle because not only is she looking absolutely stunning in

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<v Speaker 1>all of her quote revenge wardrobe, but she's also sharing

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<v Speaker 1>the reality of it and being really raw with her followers.

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<v Speaker 1>That I think is going to put her in good

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<v Speaker 1>steed in terms of a social media response. I really's

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<v Speaker 1>making himself Loo look a complete dick. I really hope

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<v Speaker 1>that she has actually blocked justin so she feels open

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<v Speaker 1>to share what she wants and not feel bound to

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<v Speaker 1>him being able to view it. Yeah. No, And then

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<v Speaker 1>also even worse, this is not work related, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>fairly sure it's up there with the most embarrassing thing

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<v Speaker 1>that's ever happened to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I sent that food to my mum and dad.

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<v Speaker 1>Steph clare Smith has shared the mortifying moment she accidentally

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<v Speaker 1>sent both her parents a nude photo. Okay, how did

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<v Speaker 1>this happen? Or I've got to go back to the start.

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<v Speaker 1>So on Stephan Laura's podcast, The Kickpod, they had a

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<v Speaker 1>listener send in a work dilemma. So this poor listener had,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when you go on Messenger and you can

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<v Speaker 1>open up all the photos that you've sent. This girl

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<v Speaker 1>was showing a co worker a photo of her partner's tattoo.

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<v Speaker 1>All of these other explicit videos and photos ended up

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<v Speaker 1>coming up as.

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<v Speaker 2>She did that.

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<v Speaker 1>So Steph said she had a similar experience back when

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<v Speaker 1>she was she was modeling full time, and she had

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<v Speaker 1>her WhatsApp messages open on a message that she'd sent

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<v Speaker 1>to Josh, except she forgot that she'd sent him a

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<v Speaker 1>nude earlier, so she thinks the makeup artist saw it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it gets a lot worse because that the nude

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<v Speaker 1>scandals don't stop there. Steph went to send Josh a

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<v Speaker 1>nude and this is when Steph had moved out of

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<v Speaker 1>home and was living by herself, so she sent Josh

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<v Speaker 1>this nude but it ended up being text to both

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<v Speaker 1>her parents.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually didn't actually go into how she did it,

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<v Speaker 1>but Laura butted in and said, yeah, and you send

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<v Speaker 1>it to me as well. And I'm like, why is

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<v Speaker 1>Steph sending me in nude? And Steph was like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, I just sent this photo to my parents.

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<v Speaker 1>What do I do? So Laura rushed over to Steph's

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<v Speaker 1>house and they were sitting on her bed trying to

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<v Speaker 1>work out what to do, and they're like, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>understand it, like retrieve the message because both of her

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<v Speaker 1>parents had automatic download on photos. So her mum ended

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<v Speaker 1>up replying saying I don't think we needed to see that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think it'd be bad enough sending it

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<v Speaker 1>to your mum but also your dad. That's a double

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<v Speaker 1>reckon in that instance. You just ring them immediately be like,

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<v Speaker 1>do not look at your phone. I actually sent you

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<v Speaker 1>something like I'll come over and delete it or something. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be hard not to click on the message.

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<v Speaker 1>What would you guys do in that situation. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I'd throw my phone into the river and then just

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<v Speaker 1>disappear for a few years. I don't think there's much

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<v Speaker 1>you could do in that situation. Well, thankfully our dad's

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<v Speaker 1>phone is always turned off. Oh yeah, they could worry

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<v Speaker 1>about that, so you'd probably just destroy his phone. You

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<v Speaker 1>just get to ham to it or something. I suppose

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<v Speaker 1>it depends where they lived, like how close they lived

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<v Speaker 1>to you. If you were in close enough proximity, I

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<v Speaker 1>think you would come over and try and destroy their

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<v Speaker 1>phones first. I don't know. I think could you come

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<v Speaker 1>up with a story as to why it was sent? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>is there any possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Kat your explanation?

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<v Speaker 1>You're always sending us photos of like something on your

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<v Speaker 1>neck or like some mark that you're concerned about. Oh sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I super ful nude because I's been concer about this

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<v Speaker 1>bowl on my deck. Yeah. I don't think your parents

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<v Speaker 1>would be believing any of that. But you just have

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<v Speaker 1>to never ever ever talk about it again. Isn't that bad?

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<v Speaker 1>Because Steph's always in that launing Gerie photo, So it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like your parents have seen it all before.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's different though, end provocative nude, like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure it wasn't just like a flash of their boobs,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm sure there was something going on in the photo.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's also.

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<v Speaker 1>Worse when you know that that person was sending it

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<v Speaker 1>to their partner. Yeah, like you know that the intention

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<v Speaker 1>was there. Parents, they've also had to listen to that

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<v Speaker 1>podcast about them talking about having sex for a month

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever it was. I think they'll just be tuning

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<v Speaker 1>out of their podcast. We just talk about how long

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<v Speaker 1>it took me to get ready this morning, Like this

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<v Speaker 1>looks just like casual jump in the car chill.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the look I'm going for.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's not what happened. Beauty brand Lebang Body has

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<v Speaker 1>announced its ending its three year collaboration with self proclaimed

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<v Speaker 1>holistic health Princess Sarah's Day. So if I've never seen

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<v Speaker 1>a brand announced they were parting ways with someone like

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<v Speaker 1>this before, Yeah, it's really odd because usually when a

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<v Speaker 1>brand collaboration ends, it's not highly publicized like this that all.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually the brand moves on and they get a new

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<v Speaker 1>ambassador and we sort of stop hearing this influence to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about this life changing product. A little bit like

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<v Speaker 1>what happened when Sarah's Day stopped working with Loving Earth

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<v Speaker 1>and we never saw eating their chocolate again, and when

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<v Speaker 1>they stopped driving masters. Yeah, yeah, Well, Libang is using

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<v Speaker 1>this as a huge marketing opportunity. They're putting all these

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<v Speaker 1>posts saying that all good things must come to an end,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're having this huge seventy percent of sale to

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate the collaboration ending. So instead of saying an end

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<v Speaker 1>of years sale, they're saying it's an end of collaboration sale.

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<v Speaker 1>So on Instagram, lo Bag wrote end of collaboration sale,

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<v Speaker 1>save up to seventy percent off the Sarah's Day's entire range.

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<v Speaker 1>They continued saying, we want to take a moment to

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<v Speaker 1>say a huge thank you to Sarah's Day for taking

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<v Speaker 1>a chance on our business and helping us grow and

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<v Speaker 1>create such a beautiful skincare range. We have had the

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<v Speaker 1>best time creating these amazing products over the last three years.

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<v Speaker 2>What a journey it has been.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, which translates to we have so much stock

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<v Speaker 1>left over that we can't get rid of here's seventy off.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, it kind of screams to me that maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>marketing manager didn't love working with Did she got out

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<v Speaker 1>that weird? Was it a hand cream or something that

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<v Speaker 1>clearly didn't sell?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>She did sell all that. I mean, I bought some

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<v Speaker 1>of her deodorant, and I was using it for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I kind of realized that I didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to support her, so I've moved on to a frank

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<v Speaker 1>body natural le. I assumed it was a financial decision

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<v Speaker 1>for the brand to move on, because I'm sure that

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<v Speaker 1>she would have been on a hell of a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of money for a collaboration like this, and initially they

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<v Speaker 1>would have partnered with her to get exposure. But now

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<v Speaker 1>that they have built a following of loyal customers who

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<v Speaker 1>really enjoy their products, I don't think they need her

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<v Speaker 1>any It's not selling clearly because I've got so much

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<v Speaker 1>to get rid of it, But I do think that's

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<v Speaker 1>the case. I think that it is selling because there

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<v Speaker 1>were so many people commenting underneath please please don't get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of the deodorant, and there's this like pity party

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<v Speaker 1>deodorant quite good, yeah, And everyone was saying please don't

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<v Speaker 1>get rid of it. And underneath every question about the deodorant,

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<v Speaker 1>le Bag was saying stay tuned everyone. So clearly what

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing is they're bringing out their ownant, which will

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<v Speaker 1>have the exact same ingredients, but it would just be

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<v Speaker 1>completely rebranded and Sarah's day won't be getting her huge

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<v Speaker 1>cut of all. It's obvious that she's got nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>do with this end of collaboration.

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<v Speaker 2>She's not promoted at all.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think it's necessarily because the product isn't popular.

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<v Speaker 1>They're probably just trying to get rid of the dregs.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would you enjoy it there? Obviously you have paid

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<v Speaker 1>her a lot of money previously. Well maybe if she

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<v Speaker 1>was selling everything and she was worth it, you would

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<v Speaker 1>keep her on as an Yeah, but I think that

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<v Speaker 1>they've got the exposure that they wanted out of her.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do think that her products maybe are taking

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more than they used to. I think

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<v Speaker 1>everything used to sell out, like for example, when she

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<v Speaker 1>had her collaboration with White Fox. I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 1>she still is in partnership with her active wear Rangers,

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<v Speaker 1>but I remember they used to sell like hotcakes, and

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<v Speaker 1>now there are sales for those products. There used to

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<v Speaker 1>be never any sales for Sarah's Lebang products. I think

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<v Speaker 1>maybe she started bringing too many different things out and

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<v Speaker 1>people get sick of being sold at there all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>There was some hamper of her products, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>when it was released it was about one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>thirty dollars, and now they're being sold for thirty dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>So I feel like there are so many products that

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been sold. I did love how desperate a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of the users sounded. It reminded me of if Max's

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<v Speaker 1>studio Fixed Foundation went out of like you know, went

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<v Speaker 1>out of business, and I would be trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>my hands on as much of it as possible. Because

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<v Speaker 1>a few people were like, I've bought nine of these

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<v Speaker 1>to stock up and one use it. They said, it's

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<v Speaker 1>particularly concerning the fact that Pity Party deodorant was such

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<v Speaker 1>a revolutionary product that so many people love and call

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<v Speaker 1>their holy grail. Why the sudden end of collaboration. What

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<v Speaker 1>will be happening with these beloved formulas? Will they be

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<v Speaker 1>taken on by Lebang without Sarah's name on it? If

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<v Speaker 1>any of those panicked people are listening to the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand. I did use that deodorant for probably a

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<v Speaker 1>year and a half go to Frank Body's deodorant or

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<v Speaker 1>nut One Dish used it and Brandon told me I

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<v Speaker 1>literally smelled like bo that I had to get.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to go through it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you have to go through the process of

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<v Speaker 1>your body getting form. I was on that natural GeoDa

0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:04.919
<v Speaker 1>for ages. Do you know what's best role on Dove Deodan?

0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:06.280
<v Speaker 2>I love roll on deodorant.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a few options there that you can try. What

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<v Speaker 1>is strange is Sarah is yet to comment on this sale.

0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:14.639
<v Speaker 1>She didn't like the post that she was tagged in

0:20:14.680 --> 0:20:17.720
<v Speaker 1>them thanking her for three years of work. It's quite

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<v Speaker 1>clear that she's not going to address the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>she is parting ways with Lebang. I will be interested

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<v Speaker 1>to see though, because a couple of months ago, on

0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:30.040
<v Speaker 1>Sarah's podcast The Health Code, she and Kurt spoke about

0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:33.760
<v Speaker 1>this blacklist of brands that they have, So they've blacklisted

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<v Speaker 1>a whole range of people that they used to work

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<v Speaker 1>with in the past. So Kurt said on the podcast

0:20:38.240 --> 0:20:40.800
<v Speaker 1>that she should name and shame the brands, and she

0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:42.960
<v Speaker 1>said that she didn't want to get sued, so she

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<v Speaker 1>was going to stay quiet on exactly who they were,

0:20:45.760 --> 0:20:47.919
<v Speaker 1>but she did go on to say that one of

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<v Speaker 1>the brands in question treated her like a punching bag,

0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:53.960
<v Speaker 1>and she was encouraged by friends to take legal action

0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:56.679
<v Speaker 1>because they owed her a whole lot of money. But

0:20:56.920 --> 0:20:59.800
<v Speaker 1>she hasn't actually worked with that many brands, So even

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<v Speaker 1>by her telling this story, you can kind of work

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<v Speaker 1>out just probably worked with what a handful of brands.

0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:07.239
<v Speaker 1>The thing is, you can't defame a brand, you can

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<v Speaker 1>only defame a person, So I mean she could have

0:21:10.280 --> 0:21:13.040
<v Speaker 1>named them, Well, she was kind of defaming a person

0:21:13.080 --> 0:21:15.800
<v Speaker 1>because she was speaking lengths about one of the brand

0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:18.440
<v Speaker 1>managers who she didn't like, who said she was really.

0:21:18.240 --> 0:21:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Rude to her.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, let's go through some of the brands that she

0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:23.879
<v Speaker 1>does no longer work with. So one of them is

0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Bondie Sands, one of my faves because she cracked the shits,

0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:30.080
<v Speaker 1>remember because she did a video for Bondie Sands after

0:21:30.280 --> 0:21:33.679
<v Speaker 1>her pregnancy with Fox and she didn't like how she looked.

0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:37.040
<v Speaker 1>Another one, as you touched on Kate in the beginning,

0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:39.480
<v Speaker 1>is Loving Earth, so she no longer works with them.

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<v Speaker 1>They were huge. I used to be on a channel

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. It's funny when you go back and

0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:47.320
<v Speaker 1>watch old videos. It was just like add no dislosure

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<v Speaker 1>of it. I remember trying that chocolate back in the

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<v Speaker 1>day and it kind of tasted like candles. I think

0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:54.200
<v Speaker 1>it all tastes like you know, when you have chocolate

0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:55.680
<v Speaker 1>and you've just had a drink of water.

0:21:55.840 --> 0:21:57.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The other brand that.

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<v Speaker 1>Is quite highly publicized that she used to work with

0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:03.720
<v Speaker 1>this Mazda. So they apparently stopped working with Mazda because

0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:05.920
<v Speaker 1>they went off and bought their own very luxe car

0:22:06.040 --> 0:22:08.159
<v Speaker 1>so they didn't need to be driving around in a

0:22:08.200 --> 0:22:12.000
<v Speaker 1>free Mazda anymore. He's the only brand, like og brand left,

0:22:12.040 --> 0:22:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Tripeka that she works with. Course she only really promotes

0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:20.600
<v Speaker 1>that body Bloom. Well that's her own formula. God, people

0:22:20.600 --> 0:22:22.840
<v Speaker 1>will be upset if that, you know, if she cuts

0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:24.840
<v Speaker 1>ties with Trapeka, because I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>use that body Bloom. I wonder if it's because she's

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<v Speaker 1>making enough money off the app that she doesn't really

0:22:29.760 --> 0:22:32.879
<v Speaker 1>need all these brand collaborations anymore. So I think the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest one and the one that is most interesting to

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<v Speaker 1>me is her deal with Spotify, because they've just wrapped

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<v Speaker 1>up season two of the health Code, and they ended

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<v Speaker 1>by saying that they may be coming back with long

0:22:43.640 --> 0:22:46.119
<v Speaker 1>form episodes. So I wonder how that works within their

0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:50.000
<v Speaker 1>contract because throughout their podcast there's always sort of tiny

0:22:50.040 --> 0:22:53.119
<v Speaker 1>little potshots being made about that they don't like. You

0:22:53.119 --> 0:22:54.920
<v Speaker 1>can tell they don't like the format. Yeah, they've signed

0:22:54.920 --> 0:22:57.680
<v Speaker 1>the contract, don't had to fulfill it, but their podcast

0:22:57.720 --> 0:23:00.359
<v Speaker 1>will be so much better as a longer format. Actually

0:23:00.359 --> 0:23:02.640
<v Speaker 1>had a look on social Blade, which of course shows

0:23:02.680 --> 0:23:05.760
<v Speaker 1>how many followers and influencer has lost or gained over

0:23:05.800 --> 0:23:08.680
<v Speaker 1>the month, and in the past month alone, Sarah has

0:23:08.720 --> 0:23:12.960
<v Speaker 1>dropped four thousand, two hundred and sixty followers. However, I

0:23:13.000 --> 0:23:15.120
<v Speaker 1>did see the other day that she gained over seven

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<v Speaker 1>hundred followers, which was a bit odd because every other

0:23:18.400 --> 0:23:20.399
<v Speaker 1>day she'd lost a thanks she put it out of

0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:23.880
<v Speaker 1>vlog that day, so it really shows that when she's

0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:27.720
<v Speaker 1>engaging with her audience and creating content, she's gaining new followers.

0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:31.000
<v Speaker 1>But because she has been so inactive on her YouTube

0:23:31.240 --> 0:23:34.159
<v Speaker 1>and her social channels, that's when people lose interest and

0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:36.520
<v Speaker 1>don't want to buy into her life anymore. I noticed

0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:39.000
<v Speaker 1>that back in March, when she gave birth to Malachi,

0:23:39.200 --> 0:23:42.639
<v Speaker 1>she jumped twenty six thousand followers. That doesn't actually surprise

0:23:42.720 --> 0:23:45.680
<v Speaker 1>me though, because the baby sell. It just shows how

0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:49.600
<v Speaker 1>big those life moments are for actually attracting followers and money.

0:23:50.960 --> 0:23:53.800
<v Speaker 3>It does look like David and You are fitted for

0:23:53.840 --> 0:23:56.399
<v Speaker 3>each otter since he chose your pumpcakes.

0:23:56.040 --> 0:23:57.720
<v Speaker 2>As much as Mt mac can.

0:23:57.880 --> 0:24:01.879
<v Speaker 1>And that's Ali's were about. Filede Love Islands, eck and

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<v Speaker 1>Sue has revealed she's ditching the lip fillers and opting

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<v Speaker 1>for a more natural look.

0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:08.280
<v Speaker 2>Amy. This is very reminiscent of Molly May.

0:24:08.640 --> 0:24:11.520
<v Speaker 1>It really is, because back in December twenty twenty one,

0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Molly famously dissolved her lip fillers and got rid of

0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:18.160
<v Speaker 1>her composite bonding, and now Eken wants to do the same.

0:24:18.640 --> 0:24:22.800
<v Speaker 1>So apparently Eken watching herself back on Love Island prompted

0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:25.640
<v Speaker 1>her decision to go natural, as well as being mindful

0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:27.680
<v Speaker 1>of the young girls who look up to her. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really surprised because from my understanding, Ecken Sue when and

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<v Speaker 1>God all these procedures done to appear on Love Island,

0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:36.200
<v Speaker 1>So it's weird that she's now watched it back and thought, hmm,

0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't like that she has really done a backflip

0:24:39.080 --> 0:24:42.040
<v Speaker 1>because she got breast in plants and also veneers before

0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:44.199
<v Speaker 1>going into the villa. But this is what she had

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<v Speaker 1>to say about it. So she said, I'm going back

0:24:46.280 --> 0:24:49.159
<v Speaker 1>to my natural roots. I'm getting rid of my lip fillers.

0:24:49.200 --> 0:24:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm against all this stuff. Now, Fellers can make you

0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:54.159
<v Speaker 1>look worse. I can see that I haven't had anything

0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:57.040
<v Speaker 1>major done to myself except the lips and the boobs.

0:24:57.320 --> 0:24:59.280
<v Speaker 1>Women look up to me. Girls look up to me,

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<v Speaker 1>So why should I be fake? Be yourself. That's why

0:25:02.200 --> 0:25:04.600
<v Speaker 1>I've gone dark, because the real Ekin is dark. I

0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:07.640
<v Speaker 1>think natural beauty is a lot prettier. I think it's

0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:12.399
<v Speaker 1>an interesting message because from reading between the lines, to

0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:16.159
<v Speaker 1>get on Love Island, you almost it feels like have

0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:20.320
<v Speaker 1>to have these procedures done for the produce. Yeah, you

0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:22.359
<v Speaker 1>have to look a certain way in order to fit

0:25:22.440 --> 0:25:25.399
<v Speaker 1>the bill of what Love Island expects. And I do

0:25:25.440 --> 0:25:27.480
<v Speaker 1>find it quite interesting because a lot of the commentary

0:25:27.520 --> 0:25:29.879
<v Speaker 1>surrounding Eke and Sue was that a lot of people

0:25:29.920 --> 0:25:32.080
<v Speaker 1>thought she was lying about her age and that she

0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:34.439
<v Speaker 1>was actually a lot older than twenty seven. And I

0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:38.280
<v Speaker 1>wonder if she's thinking, Wow, all of these cosmetic procedures

0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:41.280
<v Speaker 1>have actually made me look older, not younger. Also, a

0:25:41.280 --> 0:25:43.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of commentary when photos emerged of what she looked

0:25:43.840 --> 0:25:47.159
<v Speaker 1>like pre surgery was that she was unrecognizable. So I

0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:50.600
<v Speaker 1>am wondering how far she'll actually go in reversing some

0:25:50.640 --> 0:25:54.639
<v Speaker 1>of these procedures, because with Molly May, she certainly looks better,

0:25:54.680 --> 0:25:57.200
<v Speaker 1>but she still was a bit shy to show off

0:25:57.200 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 1>her natural teeth when she got the composite bonds. I

0:25:59.800 --> 0:26:02.080
<v Speaker 1>think he's gone back and got more. I think Eckin

0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:04.520
<v Speaker 1>looks stunning. I don't think she's gone too far. I

0:26:04.560 --> 0:26:06.640
<v Speaker 1>think Molly May went a bit far with the feelers,

0:26:06.680 --> 0:26:08.800
<v Speaker 1>to the point where her she didn't really look like

0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:11.760
<v Speaker 1>herself anymore, only twenty one years old, and she looked

0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:14.159
<v Speaker 1>a lot older. And I think it's interesting that you

0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:16.320
<v Speaker 1>said that so because maybe eck and Seue is thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>if I reverse some of the things, I might look

0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:20.840
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more youthful. I do feel for a

0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:22.920
<v Speaker 1>lot of the women coming out of Love Island, because

0:26:22.960 --> 0:26:25.639
<v Speaker 1>I feel like their looks are up for judgment and

0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:27.560
<v Speaker 1>it'll be really hard coming out of there with the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of troll comments that they receive, particularly with Eckin

0:26:30.600 --> 0:26:32.720
<v Speaker 1>Sue being told that she looks so much older than

0:26:32.720 --> 0:26:35.200
<v Speaker 1>she is, of course you'd reflect on perhaps what you'd

0:26:35.200 --> 0:26:37.840
<v Speaker 1>had done, even though I actually think the work that

0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:40.280
<v Speaker 1>she's had done looks pretty good. Yeah, I think she

0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:42.760
<v Speaker 1>looks very good at the moment. I do think though,

0:26:42.800 --> 0:26:44.920
<v Speaker 1>that there are some things that maybe she could pull

0:26:44.960 --> 0:26:46.840
<v Speaker 1>back a little bit that make her look more natural,

0:26:46.880 --> 0:26:49.919
<v Speaker 1>as she said, dyeing her back to her color. I

0:26:50.000 --> 0:26:53.120
<v Speaker 1>do think it's rather interesting that Molly May and Eck

0:26:53.200 --> 0:26:56.719
<v Speaker 1>and Sue were the standouts of their season, and potentially

0:26:56.840 --> 0:27:00.320
<v Speaker 1>now they're feeling because they've got so many fans, probably

0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:03.360
<v Speaker 1>people telling them how great they're look and how beautiful

0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:06.000
<v Speaker 1>they are inside and out. Maybe that's why they're now

0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:09.119
<v Speaker 1>feeling confident enough to strip themselves.

0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:09.160
<v Speaker 2>Back a bit.

0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Just back to your point, Sophie, you said how you

0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:13.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of have to look a certain way to be

0:27:13.200 --> 0:27:16.959
<v Speaker 1>on Love Island. Molly May has been wanting to distance

0:27:16.960 --> 0:27:19.480
<v Speaker 1>herself from the show since she got off the show.

0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:21.720
<v Speaker 1>Do you think it's the same with Ekin because she

0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:24.480
<v Speaker 1>recently spoke out in an interview and said that she

0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:26.720
<v Speaker 1>wants to be on Coronation Street because she was, of

0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:30.440
<v Speaker 1>course on that Turkish soap opera. So I watched Coronation

0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Street and everyone sort of just looks more normal, They're

0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:36.320
<v Speaker 1>more natural looking. So I wonder if it's actually for

0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:39.200
<v Speaker 1>her career progression. She's thinking I need to strip back

0:27:39.200 --> 0:27:41.080
<v Speaker 1>and get rid of the lick fillers, or someone has

0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:43.240
<v Speaker 1>said to her, like a casting agent, you can't be

0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:45.560
<v Speaker 1>having all that work done well. As an actor, you

0:27:45.600 --> 0:27:48.000
<v Speaker 1>also have to show a lot of expression in your

0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 1>face for it to be believable.

0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:50.880
<v Speaker 2>So maybe that also does come.

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Maybe she doesn't want to look like ekin sewer off

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Love Island either to appear on Coronation Street, because maybe

0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:58.560
<v Speaker 1>she wants to be taken more seriously as an app

0:27:58.720 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 1>was anyone else shocked that she didn't get the new

0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:03.960
<v Speaker 1>hosting gig for Love Island UK because everyone thought that

0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:06.200
<v Speaker 1>she was going to replace Caroline Because I think they

0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:09.680
<v Speaker 1>need someone that is separate to the hype of Love

0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Island in a way, like they need a more I

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:14.280
<v Speaker 1>feel like Caroline and also Laura a bit more. We're

0:28:14.280 --> 0:28:18.000
<v Speaker 1>a bit more serious, older, like they weren't the same

0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:20.880
<v Speaker 1>age as all the contestants. They they're kind of more

0:28:20.960 --> 0:28:23.440
<v Speaker 1>like a cool big sister to the group. Rather than

0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:26.600
<v Speaker 1>being a contestant. I think Ekin would have been great, though.

0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:28.480
<v Speaker 1>I actually think it's a silly movement that they should

0:28:28.520 --> 0:28:31.480
<v Speaker 1>have got her. Ecken's actually set to be in that

0:28:31.800 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 1>Celebs Dancing on Ice. All of them seem to do

0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:38.640
<v Speaker 1>that when the show coming out. I think it's coming

0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:40.920
<v Speaker 1>out soon. Apparently they'd want to hurry that up. Yeah,

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean even I'm losing interest a bit. I'm just

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 1>worried they'll break up before the can keep my hands

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:53.360
<v Speaker 1>to myself. Selena Gomez and Hailey Bieber have broken the

0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Internet after appearing in a photo alongside one another.

0:28:57.160 --> 0:28:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Amy.

0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:01.320
<v Speaker 1>This comes just weeks after Hailey Bieber's much hyped interview

0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:04.640
<v Speaker 1>with Call Her Daddy. That's right, so in late September,

0:29:04.680 --> 0:29:08.160
<v Speaker 1>I'll just refresh everyone's memories. Haley spoke out about the

0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 1>vicious trolling she'd been receiving since her engagement and subsequent

0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:15.240
<v Speaker 1>marriage to Justin Bieber, and in this interview, she also

0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:19.080
<v Speaker 1>denied rumors that her relationship with Justin Bieber had overlapped

0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:23.280
<v Speaker 1>with Selena Gobers. Very importantly, she never mentioned Selena's name.

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:27.320
<v Speaker 1>It was always Justin's X or her or she and

0:29:27.440 --> 0:29:31.080
<v Speaker 1>I almost thought this would actually rignite more of a

0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:33.720
<v Speaker 1>fight between the two and call her Daddy's host Alex

0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Cooper said something along the lines to Haley like, Oh,

0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:39.520
<v Speaker 1>it would be great if Selena could put an end

0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:41.960
<v Speaker 1>to this. Even if she just did a love heart

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:44.320
<v Speaker 1>comment under one of your posts. I feel like it

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 1>would tell all of the haters to get lost. She's

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:48.959
<v Speaker 1>done a lot more than that. They were photographed at

0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:53.720
<v Speaker 1>the Academy Museum gala, several photos of them embracing looks

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:56.920
<v Speaker 1>like they're holding hands, all chummy, cheek to cheek. I

0:29:57.040 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 1>was shocked when I saw this. This photo is going

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:02.479
<v Speaker 1>to go down in celebrity history as being so iconic.

0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 1>The photographer Tyrrel Hampton who snapped this shot. He shared

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:09.000
<v Speaker 1>it on Instagram on Monday, and he perfectly captioned the

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:13.760
<v Speaker 1>post plot twist, and the photo amassed one million likes

0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:17.240
<v Speaker 1>in just nine hours. I loved reading all the comments underneath.

0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:20.440
<v Speaker 1>Some of my favorites were love watching the reverse of

0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:24.200
<v Speaker 1>global warming and Everybody's skin clearing from this pick, and

0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 1>another said Tyrrell's photographed history, this will be your most

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:31.720
<v Speaker 1>iconic pick of the year. And my favorite was justin

0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:34.440
<v Speaker 1>Bieber's new wallpaper. I like the one that said the

0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 1>way Hailey Bieber and Selena Gomez have done more for

0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:40.040
<v Speaker 1>world peace than the majority of the politicians in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I never thought I would see the day when the

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<v Speaker 1>two of them were pictured together. Can you imagine how

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<v Speaker 1>fuck do it actually be to have a photo with

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<v Speaker 1>your partner's ex? Yeah, well you have, I have this,

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<v Speaker 1>But that's a long story. But I actually thought that

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<v Speaker 1>this would only happen if Hailey broke up with just Like.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't see this happening when she was with Justin.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a really classy look for Selena Gomez

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<v Speaker 1>because she seems so lovely. She does, and she's got

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<v Speaker 1>her much hyped Netflix docco series coming out, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a stroke of pr genius. Oh, this

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<v Speaker 1>is definitely due to the fact that the docco's coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that, because in a way, wouldn't we prefer to

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<v Speaker 1>see this photo after Selena's docco? Like it's a bit

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<v Speaker 1>it's making everyone even more interested in it, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>making Selena look like the bigger person because obviously she's

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<v Speaker 1>reached out to Haley after this interview and has wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to men think, Yeah, it definitely makes her look like

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<v Speaker 1>the bigger person, but it doesn't really create the hype

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<v Speaker 1>as much around the DOCCO. I get what you mean,

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<v Speaker 1>because we've seen the interview with Haley. We've heard and everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>what are they going to hate each other? And then

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<v Speaker 1>it's like all of Selena's fans would be glued and

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to see her bitch about Haley. Don't we all

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<v Speaker 1>now want to find out why they're now friends?

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<v Speaker 2>True?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe this is all for the docco. Like maybe the DOCCO.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they've been filming Selena for like eight years.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if they were at this event and they've

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<v Speaker 1>recorded all of it. I do also love the narrative

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<v Speaker 1>of this photo. It's women supporting women rather than being

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<v Speaker 1>pitted against each other. It's like they've kind of called

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<v Speaker 1>bullshit on the way it was just another event. He

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<v Speaker 1>was taking the photo. Now that's another plot twist. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that is all we have time for. Thank

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