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Speaker 1: Now joining us on the line right now is the

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Speaker 1: Minister for Small Business, Paul Kirby. Good morning to you, curbs.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Katie. How are you a big day yesterday? Mate?

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Speaker 1: Oh, very big day yesterday. I am tired. I've had

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Speaker 1: three coffees, but I'm pushing on.

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Speaker 2: Yes. Yes, it took a long long time to get

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Speaker 2: Laila out of bed this morning, even she was tired.

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Speaker 1: Well and well done to you and your little girl

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Speaker 1: obviously walking and taking part in run with dad yesterday.

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Speaker 1: It was a great morning and great to see you

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Speaker 1: and the Chief Minister and plenty of others there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a really nice morning. It's like it's

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Speaker 2: a bit of a treat for them. It's a bit

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Speaker 2: of a something different to get them out of bed

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Speaker 2: while it's you know, it's pretty much still dark and

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Speaker 2: get down there and get organized and get on the run.

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Speaker 2: She had a little bit of cereal while we're walking around,

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Speaker 2: so to help pass the time. Yeah. Look, there's some

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Speaker 2: serious messages behind it. Everybody's got a Cancas stories to tell,

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Speaker 2: or most families have these days, and a very good

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Speaker 2: reminder while we're having a bit of fun to take

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Speaker 2: it seriously because it does hurt people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you spot on and I couldn't agree more. Now, now, Minister,

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Speaker 1: we know that that there was an announcement made over

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Speaker 1: the weekend three point three million dollar package of targeted

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Speaker 1: business training and support programs. It's all aimed at supporting

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Speaker 1: businesses who have been doing it tough during those COVID

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Speaker 1: lockdowns and also the closure of interstate boarders. Firstly, can

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Speaker 1: you tell us a little bit about what you know,

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Speaker 1: what these programs include and who might be keen to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly, Katie, and I guess this is moving into

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Speaker 2: the more traditional business support rather than those short term

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Speaker 2: grabs and grants that we've had to do to try

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Speaker 2: and support businesses as we can around, you know, whether

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Speaker 2: it's financial fitness, whether it's the actual business fitness, to

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Speaker 2: make sure it's running as best as it possibly can be,

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Speaker 2: as you mentioned, a really good range of training and

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Speaker 2: to really help. This might be for businesses that have

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Speaker 2: done it really tough. It might be businesses that have

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Speaker 2: held on okay, but want to now take the next step.

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Speaker 2: There might be some opportunities that have opened up as

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Speaker 2: they have right across the territory and the nation, but

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Speaker 2: people want a bit more specialized training to work out

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Speaker 2: how they can be more efficient, more practical. As businesses

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Speaker 1: And when are they going to roll out and how

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Speaker 1: can people sort of find out a little bit more

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Speaker 1: about them, I suppose.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly some of them have already started. One of

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Speaker 2: infok to you'll be on that NT Industry Business Support

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Speaker 2: They have done quite well through the business support packages

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Speaker 1: We have been talking a bit more this morning as well.

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Speaker 1: Worried about those vaccination rates in the territory right now?

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Speaker 1: Forward, do I reckon we need to look at possible

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Speaker 2: Will just certainly encourage people to continue getting the jabs

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Speaker 1: Well, I guess some of those remote communities aren't actually

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Speaker 2: If I know that some location and some particularly remote

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Speaker 2: need to do it, and then hopefully most of those

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Speaker 1: Katie, we're running very fast out of time, but I

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Speaker 1: do want to ask a minister finally. This morning, the

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Speaker 1: CLP is calling on the government to come clean over

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Speaker 1: wreck fishing spending. The Shadow Minister for Recreational Fishing, Jered

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Speaker 1: Maylee reckons it's ridiculous the government spent less than half

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Speaker 1: Can I ask how much has been spent of that

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Speaker 2: It's a bit rich coming from the COLP. They built

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Speaker 2: one boat ramp very belatedly on the way out when

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Speaker 2: those reck fishing grant programs at Kuraborbie Corrobberie, Billibong Road,

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Speaker 2: it's been fixed up. Shady Camp Boat Ramp, Middle Arm

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Speaker 2: and Dinah Beach boat ramps have all had significant upgrades

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Speaker 2: we've got nearly fourteen million dollars allocated to Point Stewart

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Speaker 2: and daily river Boat Ramp upgrades. Interesting, like the daily

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Speaker 2: river Boat Ram upgrade, the tender went out for our

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Speaker 2: take that tender up. So we can put money on

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Speaker 2: the contractors haven't been able to pick up that daily one.

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Speaker 2: We'll break that down into a smaller programmer works through

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Speaker 2: continue to invest in our wreck fishing infrastructure.

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Speaker 1: We are going to have to leave it their Minister

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Speaker 1: for Small Business and also Recreational Fishing. Paul Kirby, appreciate

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Speaker 1: your time this morning. Thanks very much for coming on.

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Speaker 2: Thanks very much, Katie, well done again yet thank you,

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Speaker 2: thank you,