WEBVTT - Luke McGregor and The Godfather Part 3

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<v Speaker 1>Get a Peter Helly here. Welcome to You Ain't Seen

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing Yet?

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<v Speaker 2>The Movie podcast, where I chat to a movie lover

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<v Speaker 2>about a classic or beloved movie they haven't quite got

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<v Speaker 2>around to watching until now. And today's guests Comedian Mate

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<v Speaker 2>friend of the show Luke McGregor.

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<v Speaker 3>The first rule of Flake Club is you do not

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<v Speaker 3>talk about fake club.

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<v Speaker 4>Now. It was you afraid of you broke my heart.

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<v Speaker 5>I admire your luck.

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<v Speaker 1>Mister Bond, James Bond couldn't happening right now?

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<v Speaker 6>You Ain't Seen Nothing New?

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<v Speaker 1>What more can I say about Luke McGregor.

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<v Speaker 2>This is his third time on You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet,

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<v Speaker 2>and he is an absolute delight. It's been one of

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<v Speaker 2>my great thrills in the last decade or so to

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<v Speaker 2>see the way audiences have taken to Luke. He is

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<v Speaker 2>such a smart, funny, generous and kind man and performer.

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<v Speaker 1>You know e from rose Haven.

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<v Speaker 2>You may have seen his sex documentary Luke Warm Sex,

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<v Speaker 2>which was really rave, really amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>You would have seen on all the panel.

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<v Speaker 2>Shows Hughsy We've Got a Problem the Project, amongst other things.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, he's doing some great work with.

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie Pickering on the Weekly Now Luke Blow said, Luca

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<v Speaker 2>has been on the show three times. I'll just let

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<v Speaker 2>you know his favorite films before we hear some more

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<v Speaker 2>from Luke. He initially kicked off with Ghostbusters, A Bronx Tale,

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<v Speaker 2>and quite cheekly Sonic the Hedgehog, and then when he returned,

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<v Speaker 2>he did Terminated to Judgment Day, Return to the Dragon,

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<v Speaker 2>and Jurassic Park.

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<v Speaker 1>I love hanging with Bloke.

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<v Speaker 2>He's one of my favorite people in the industry, a

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<v Speaker 2>great mate, and I'm bloody stoked be hanging with him today.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, I'm lu McGregor, and my seventh, eighth, and ninth

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<v Speaker 3>favorite films are Aliens. Apparently, she sign Alien once would

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<v Speaker 3>be fucking do Lion King the animated One. Obviously you

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<v Speaker 3>have forgotten me and Star Wars The Empire strikes back.

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<v Speaker 1>I love you, I know.

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<v Speaker 3>But up until this week, I had never seen The

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<v Speaker 3>Godfather Part three.

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<v Speaker 2>Made sixteen years after its predecessor, Godfather Coda the death

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<v Speaker 2>of Michael Collione season aging Michael Collone Albacina, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>suffering from diabetes and the ghosts of the past. Michael's

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<v Speaker 2>desire to make the Collione family legitimate plays out in

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<v Speaker 2>this epic. He hopes to do this by getting in

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<v Speaker 2>bed with the Vatican. Surely dealing with the men of

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<v Speaker 2>the cloth will be easier than the mafia men back

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<v Speaker 2>in New York City.

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<v Speaker 1>Be careful what you wish for.

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<v Speaker 2>As interesting as the Vatican storyline is, the Godfather Coder

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<v Speaker 2>is about family, about how you can never really escape

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<v Speaker 2>the violent actions and brutal choices of your past. Trilogy

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<v Speaker 2>mainstays Talia Shyer, Connie and Diane Keaton kay Adams have

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<v Speaker 2>more to do here than either of the previous films.

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<v Speaker 2>Newcomer Andy Garcia as Sonny's hot headed son Vincent.

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<v Speaker 1>Is a welcomed edition.

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<v Speaker 2>Fransivil Coppler's daughter and future superstar director Sophia Copla plays

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<v Speaker 2>Mary Michael's daughter and Vincent's creepy crush, and has unfairly

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<v Speaker 2>received mixed reviews for her performance. Nominated for seven Academy Awards.

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<v Speaker 2>The third installment of the Godfather trilogy is often aligned,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a bit of a shame. No, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>in the conversation as the greatest film ever made, but

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<v Speaker 2>most films aren't. If you love parts one and two,

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<v Speaker 2>you really need to give the third a chance. Luke

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<v Speaker 2>McGregor be honest, have you ever stabbed anyone in the

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<v Speaker 2>eye with your glasses?

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<v Speaker 3>They were the sharpest pair of glasses I've ever seen,

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<v Speaker 3>Like that was like an ice pick. They went in

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<v Speaker 3>like I am. You know, I wear glasses and I've

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<v Speaker 3>never thought of them as a self defense tool. They

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<v Speaker 3>were so sharp.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he must have done it.

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<v Speaker 2>I wondered if he did a little bit of work

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<v Speaker 2>on them, because otherwise, you're right, he would have maybe

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<v Speaker 2>this bounced off the eyeball.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, no, they're in the neck. They're in the neck.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So they managed to pierce through his throat and then

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<v Speaker 5>just bluttering around. I'm like, oh, surely there was another

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<v Speaker 5>way of doing this that wasn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know it was. It was the sharpest purroglass

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<v Speaker 3>I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have liked to have seen the scene with

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<v Speaker 2>him in the garage, just sharpening, sharpening, the glasses, sharpening something.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not sure what, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>He took the glasses off the guy's head and then

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<v Speaker 5>shoved them into his neck, So my only thought was

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<v Speaker 5>that he would He went to the went to Specsabers

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<v Speaker 5>or something like that and bought the same glass as

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<v Speaker 5>the guy had and then maybe checked, maybe you got

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<v Speaker 5>some ballistic still or something to test them out to

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<v Speaker 5>see if they were sharp enough to do the And

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<v Speaker 5>he's like, oh, great, well this is gonna be fine.

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<v Speaker 5>I've tested it on this sort of martial arts stummy

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<v Speaker 5>that I've bought and they pierced right through, so I

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<v Speaker 5>should be right to stab him.

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<v Speaker 2>He obviously knew the part of the neck as well.

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<v Speaker 2>If you know the parts of the body, the sensitive

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<v Speaker 2>parts of the body to really to really attack, you

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<v Speaker 2>can do some amazing things. Yeah, you know this, You've

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<v Speaker 2>done your karate.

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<v Speaker 3>We've both studied the arts and the blade.

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<v Speaker 1>Spec we are assassins.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's on that.

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<v Speaker 5>And again I don't know enough about human anatomy to

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<v Speaker 5>know how a person would react to getting stabbed.

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<v Speaker 3>But when in the you know when the assassins and the.

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<v Speaker 5>The opera, yep, and he's killing people like, he's not

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<v Speaker 5>covering their mouth when he kills them, He's just stabbing them,

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<v Speaker 5>and they're like, and then they die silently.

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<v Speaker 1>See the opera, you respect the.

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<v Speaker 3>Perform That's true. I forgot about that.

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<v Speaker 5>I hate it.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking movies. The same thing happens in the opera.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether you're being stabbed or not.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny how in movies like this.

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<v Speaker 5>I've absolutely watched a billion films that I haven't picked

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<v Speaker 5>apart that have death stines that aren't realistic, but it's

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<v Speaker 5>it's kind of funny how you like your suspension disbelief

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<v Speaker 5>is obviously you know, when it's different than the director,

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<v Speaker 5>all of a sudden it ruins it for you. Like,

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<v Speaker 5>for all I know, maybe punch hit him in the

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<v Speaker 5>lung and that takes all ther windowut of you, so

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<v Speaker 5>you can't you can't scream or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>But in mind mind I'm just like schurely you go

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<v Speaker 3>our or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Complete with complete silence, silence, complete silence. Now, thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for returning. You are now officially the most guested guests

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<v Speaker 2>we've had on you ain't see nothing yet, I'm on it.

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<v Speaker 3>Why I lucked out?

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<v Speaker 5>Because I chose the Godfather, Someone's going to choose. Someone

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<v Speaker 5>chose Harry Potter.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet not Harry Potter. Think Harry Potter is it classic?

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<v Speaker 3>Probably not yet?

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<v Speaker 1>The books undoubtedly classic.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, some people will have I think Ange.

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<v Speaker 2>Bishop told me she hadn't seen Harry Potter, and my

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<v Speaker 2>first thought was, is that is that worthy? Has anyone

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<v Speaker 2>picked Alien Cursey we Beck, We did Alien.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so she'll she'll have Aliens, Aliens three and Aliens Resurrection.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, this is the this is the thing at some point,

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<v Speaker 2>like while he's doing Star Wars, so Wiley will return.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>We weren't able to organize it for this season. But

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<v Speaker 2>next season he will come back in the Return of

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<v Speaker 2>the Jedi. So that's where he's up to. But that

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<v Speaker 2>does he go do the prequels?

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<v Speaker 1>Does he do? He does?

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<v Speaker 3>It's our infinite podcast content, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>But I feel like by calling Phantom Menace a classic, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a contaminating.

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<v Speaker 5>That's true, because I mean it'd be like, I guess

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<v Speaker 5>if like with Aliens, do you go see Aliens versus Predator?

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<v Speaker 5>Then do you see Predators? Do you see Like there's

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of some films have a lot of spin

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<v Speaker 5>offs that maybe aren't.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I feel we need to kind of protect

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<v Speaker 2>the integrity of the podcast. I mean, there may be

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<v Speaker 2>people listening to this going come on, it's got Father

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<v Speaker 2>Part three a classic, but I think it deserves a

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<v Speaker 2>conversation and I don't want to know what you think

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<v Speaker 2>of it just yet because I want to come back

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<v Speaker 2>and get all that. But there's three films your seventh, eighth,

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<v Speaker 2>and ninth favorite films.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, In fact, it was Alien or Aliens.

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<v Speaker 3>I chose Aliens just because I remember as a kid,

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<v Speaker 3>just when Ripley was out in the in the machine,

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<v Speaker 3>in the in the in that sort of mach suit

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<v Speaker 3>forklift thing.

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<v Speaker 5>I was just I thought that was so cool, especially

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<v Speaker 5>after the first one where it was, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 5>almost a horror film, and then the second one was

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<v Speaker 5>sort of almost like a fight back and then Fighting

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<v Speaker 5>the Queen. It was just such a cool sequel.

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<v Speaker 3>Lion King.

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<v Speaker 5>I just wanted to check a animated film in there,

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<v Speaker 5>because obviously they had a huge impact on me growing up,

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<v Speaker 5>and Lion King was probably my hes probably the.

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<v Speaker 3>One I've seen the most. It's only it's only a

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<v Speaker 3>film I've ever bought the soundtrack to on CD. And

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<v Speaker 3>the other one was.

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<v Speaker 1>Independent Films Back.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that was just yeah, my name is Luke.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything about that film was cool.

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<v Speaker 2>So that actually I have a brother in law, Luke,

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<v Speaker 2>and it actually meant something to him that, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the most f miss guy in the world all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden, and it was Luke Skywalker.

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<v Speaker 3>My parents named me after Luke Skywalker. Really, yeah they.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was a mix of Luke Skywalker and

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<v Speaker 3>Luke from the Bible. I think it was. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>they so they were big Star Wars fans, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that that helped lead to the decision of

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<v Speaker 3>calling me Luke.

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<v Speaker 2>They also enrolled you in Karate lessons. Did your parents

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<v Speaker 2>hope that you one day would become a Jedi?

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<v Speaker 3>I think they just wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 5>I think they just knew this guy's getting teasted based

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<v Speaker 5>on my appearance. Appearance the way to everything about me was.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's great because it's led to comedy later

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<v Speaker 5>in life, but at the time at school, before I

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<v Speaker 5>was doing stand up, all of it was a negative.

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<v Speaker 1>It was all self defense.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we are glad you got through all of that

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<v Speaker 2>and you entertained audiences both live on stage and on

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<v Speaker 2>our screens, and we're all the better for it.

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<v Speaker 3>This is do you tell your kids?

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<v Speaker 1>Pete?

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, thank you, That's that's all beair to say.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you tell your kids that?

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<v Speaker 5>Because I used to have a lot of teachers tell

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<v Speaker 5>me school's the best year, this is the best years

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<v Speaker 5>of your life. And I'm like, no, surely not.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure I've ever said they're the best years

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<v Speaker 2>of your life, but I've particularly the kids. It was

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<v Speaker 2>hard with my oldest because he went he did, he

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<v Speaker 2>was in lockdown for the final two years right of

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<v Speaker 2>his VC. So I kind of kept the idea that

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<v Speaker 2>those years are actually kind of quite fun years socially.

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<v Speaker 2>But so I've got another one, aid and doing year twelve,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think he's well aware that he's pretty socials.

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<v Speaker 1>He's having some fun.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I do try to positive reinforce the idea,

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<v Speaker 2>like you don't get to hang out with your mates

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<v Speaker 2>for the rest of your life necessarily.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we kind of work in industry where we

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<v Speaker 1>kind of do.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess yeah, because I find the post school years

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<v Speaker 3>way better.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, everything's come up McGregor in the last ten years.

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<v Speaker 5>He let's be honest, true, when I when I worked in,

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<v Speaker 5>when I worked in when I first got out of Union,

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<v Speaker 5>I started working in the government, and then super like,

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<v Speaker 5>really was you catch it with your friends when you can.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like, I did I miss them? I went from

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<v Speaker 5>hanging out with them every day to not hanging out

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<v Speaker 5>with them at all. Unless we really organize something, and

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<v Speaker 5>then thank thankfully I managed to make comedy you know,

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<v Speaker 5>at work. And then now I get to hang out

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<v Speaker 5>with my mates all the time again, which is great.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, when I was breaking in super innuation, absolutely

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<v Speaker 5>I did miss them.

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<v Speaker 2>I have fond memories of school, but yeah, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>claim they were the best years.

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<v Speaker 1>Of my life.

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<v Speaker 3>Cool kid at school, I was not well, I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Not cool in inverted commas, I was. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>was vice captain of the school. I had pretty popular

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<v Speaker 2>a lot, I had a lot of friends. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>did have a lot of friends, and I am still

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<v Speaker 2>friends with those like that. Those are my still my

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<v Speaker 2>if you like, in a circle. And and yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>I've kept in touch with all my all my mates

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<v Speaker 2>from school and and you know, sometimes it's it's to.

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<v Speaker 1>Do with the year level.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like I've seen, you know, you could have

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<v Speaker 2>a year level above you that like that doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 2>to be strong friendship groups in that year level. But

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<v Speaker 2>we had a really kind of everyone seemed to get

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<v Speaker 2>along that there was in other year levels. There was

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<v Speaker 2>like genuine tension between what they you know, we called

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<v Speaker 2>referred to as the skips and the wogs back then

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<v Speaker 2>yah know, and then when in our year level, there

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<v Speaker 2>was this kind of like really like I don't know, friendly.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't even call it a rivalry. It was like

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<v Speaker 2>we kind of hung out together. It wasn't it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a thing. It was like a funny thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Like they would they would tease us about our ship lunches,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, glad wraps and sandwiches. They've got like lasagneurs

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<v Speaker 2>in their containers and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was kind of this out to day it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was I felt like I grew up in a

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<v Speaker 1>good with good people around me as far as a

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<v Speaker 1>peer group. Just on that.

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<v Speaker 3>We had a guide our school who used to bring

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<v Speaker 3>in a chicken, just a roast chicken from the supermarket,

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<v Speaker 3>take it out of the packaging and.

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<v Speaker 5>Put in the microwave without putting it on a plate

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<v Speaker 5>or anything. Oh it's a zappa, and then eat it

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<v Speaker 5>in his lunchbox.

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<v Speaker 1>It was it's a bus move.

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<v Speaker 3>It was about move. He made the microwave pretty gross

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<v Speaker 3>for anyone else.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I went to school pre microwave, but we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't ever have a microwave available to the students.

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<v Speaker 3>So with technology brings new problems.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I think all those films have been covered,

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<v Speaker 2>not Aliens. The original Alien has been covered by Kersey

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<v Speaker 2>Weebeck on this podcast, while he did Empire Strikes Back.

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<v Speaker 2>And our very first episode that kicked this whole thing

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<v Speaker 2>off was with Tom Gleson watching The Lion King. So

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<v Speaker 2>you can go back if you're interested in those films

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<v Speaker 2>and listen to more. Let's get into this. This so

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<v Speaker 2>in many ways controversial film France Ford Coppola. It's made

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen ninety, the year the Pies won the Grand Final,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's sixteen years after Part two. It's co written

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<v Speaker 2>by friends of all cop and Mario Puzzo. Albacina returns, Danketon,

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<v Speaker 2>Tali Shaier. We need to know, Luke McGregor, did you

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy Godfather Part three? The Coder the Death of Michael Collone?

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<v Speaker 3>So I watched I watched an edited version.

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<v Speaker 2>Did I is the version of French for Coppler has

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<v Speaker 2>done recently, I mean maybe two years ago. Now there's

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<v Speaker 2>four minutes difference. It's actually most directors cuts go longer

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<v Speaker 2>because the studio maybe shortened. This actually was shorter, right,

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<v Speaker 2>There's not a whole lot that there's some scenes that

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<v Speaker 2>are just shorter. The main differences are the bookends, that

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<v Speaker 2>it starts differently, the meeting with it. So this starts

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<v Speaker 2>with Michael in the Vatican, and that came about thirty

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<v Speaker 2>minutes into the original film, and it started with scenes

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<v Speaker 2>of the lakeside house where Fredo was killed and kind

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<v Speaker 2>of images of that, and then it ended with Michael saying,

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<v Speaker 2>I think the same scene him sitting down, but him dying,

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<v Speaker 2>which it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Have that in this.

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<v Speaker 3>It was sitting alone. Yeah, it doesn't die.

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<v Speaker 7>It was it was.

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<v Speaker 3>I really enjoyed it. I think the I think the

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<v Speaker 3>other two, I mean hot take, I probably liked a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit more, but this one was really sad in

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<v Speaker 3>that it was.

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<v Speaker 5>And what made it even more potent was the fact

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<v Speaker 5>that you know his work, you saw him through the

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<v Speaker 5>two films.

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<v Speaker 3>Works so hard.

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<v Speaker 5>It was it was weird, like he was trying to

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<v Speaker 5>chase what I think was like happiness and security and

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<v Speaker 5>family in an industry, you know, in a in that

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<v Speaker 5>world where it's impossible, where it's so uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>there's so much risk, and to see his I'm ationmer.

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<v Speaker 5>We can do spoilers on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, spoilers, watch watch the film first, and I do

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<v Speaker 2>I do employ you to watch this. It has been

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<v Speaker 2>lots and been I've been guilty of saying it over

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<v Speaker 2>the years. You don't really need to watch three. If

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<v Speaker 2>you love the first two films, wats three and watch

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<v Speaker 2>the Coder version.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I really enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, to see his daughter be shot at

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<v Speaker 5>the end, when everything he's worked towards is taken away

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<v Speaker 5>by a single gun shot on a staircase outside of opera, Like,

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<v Speaker 5>no matter how powerful he became and how much how

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<v Speaker 5>hard he worked, it just you know, just one random

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<v Speaker 5>actla that takes everything away and then he just and

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<v Speaker 5>then the film finishes with him sitting alone, old and

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<v Speaker 5>like it was alf and nothing like it was it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was really beautiful, really sad.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I really liked about.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think I think the word coder is an

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<v Speaker 2>important distinction, you know, or something to kind of talk about,

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<v Speaker 2>because this does feel like I think at the.

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<v Speaker 1>Time, people were like, oh, what do you really need

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<v Speaker 1>to do? You know, another Godfather film?

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<v Speaker 2>Surely the story is told, but no, I think and

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<v Speaker 2>in this day and age where Star Wars is doing

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<v Speaker 2>all these spinoff series and and like this feels like,

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<v Speaker 2>of course we want to know what happened to Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Collier and the family. What what are the ramifications of

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<v Speaker 2>being involved with this life. Michael's alive at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the end of part two, like what does his

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<v Speaker 2>life look like? What does Connie's life look like? I

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<v Speaker 2>really love that in this that Connie has more agency,

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<v Speaker 2>Like she is almost a bit of the puppetmaster here.

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<v Speaker 2>She is pulling string. She's, you know, kind of she

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<v Speaker 2>knows what Michael did. I think with Freido, but she

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't say that that loud. She even refers to a drowning.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the other reason why I think this film

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<v Speaker 2>is necessary in a way, because to see the guilt

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<v Speaker 2>that Michael still has, and even like the idea that

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<v Speaker 2>that Mary's asking Vincent, is it true?

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<v Speaker 1>Did Michael did my dad kill.

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<v Speaker 5>When he breaks down in front of the priest and

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<v Speaker 5>you just see it all sort of hit him and yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>it's it's his decline, you know, it's his if The

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<v Speaker 5>first and was the rise, and then the second film

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<v Speaker 5>was sort of him sort of conquerting his position, and

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<v Speaker 5>then the third film was his decline.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it's a really important part of his journey.

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<v Speaker 8>This.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I really really enjoyed it. But it's just so sad,

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<v Speaker 3>and it doesn't make me wonder.

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<v Speaker 5>I've always wondered with what you know with that life

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<v Speaker 5>where it is you know it's this crime and you

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<v Speaker 5>know you're doing things that are legal and people.

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<v Speaker 3>Are dying, Like what do you hold on to to

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<v Speaker 3>keep you?

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<v Speaker 5>Because I feel like, oh, humans pursue happiness in some

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<v Speaker 5>form or another, so what's their moments of joy?

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<v Speaker 3>And and they're so fleeting, But I guess you're trapped.

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<v Speaker 3>And I can't believe that. I never knew that. That

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<v Speaker 3>line pulled me back in from Godfather Part three.

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<v Speaker 2>I've mentioned this before, possibly on this podcast. It's maybe

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<v Speaker 2>outside of he made him an offer you can't refuse. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's probably the line that you think of the most.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think after that, it's that line and that

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<v Speaker 2>let's have a listen to that scene.

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<v Speaker 4>New over th St. That's natural something. How can you

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<v Speaker 4>do business with It's gonna meat market?

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<v Speaker 9>Like, I'm a businessman first foremost, I want to no

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<v Speaker 9>further comfort with him.

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<v Speaker 7>You tell them from me that he can live or

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<v Speaker 7>he can die.

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<v Speaker 1>Vincent with your stop.

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<v Speaker 4>Stage, Jersey State Believe and the NB I aportant off

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<v Speaker 4>the ability record. You're possible, that's it.

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<v Speaker 8>You always also, you can't be doing this. Not just

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<v Speaker 8>when I thought I was out, they pulled me.

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<v Speaker 2>Back in and then a diabetic attack, which I think

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<v Speaker 2>is a I can lovely touch that. As powerful as

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Coleone is, he's not immune to nature in a

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<v Speaker 2>way and his own bodies capabilities.

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<v Speaker 3>I always get reminded of It.

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<v Speaker 5>Was really cooled hit that line too in the original,

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<v Speaker 5>because all I've heard is the you know, the memes

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<v Speaker 5>of all the references to it.

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<v Speaker 3>To actually hear it for the first time was amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>It might be in was it Ben Affleck that film

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<v Speaker 5>Towns or the Town, The Town, and there's this he's

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<v Speaker 5>talking to a guy who's sort of threatening him in

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<v Speaker 5>a floral shop, I think, and Benefflex says, what you

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<v Speaker 5>think you're the only guy with a gun, And then

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<v Speaker 5>I always I always think about that watching these films,

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<v Speaker 5>because they're as powerful as these people are. One stray

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<v Speaker 5>gunshot and they're dead or someone they loves dead, and

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<v Speaker 5>you don't need a lot of money to acquire one.

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<v Speaker 3>In America.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, they're just they're so vulnerable, but they must

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<v Speaker 5>get a feeling of invincibility. They must start to feel

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<v Speaker 5>like they're untouchable. And then and then this film sort

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<v Speaker 5>of really beautifully just you know, rips it away from

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<v Speaker 5>him one in terms of just his declining health. His

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<v Speaker 5>body isn't doing what he wants it to do. And

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<v Speaker 5>then to see his daughter, you know, which is the

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<v Speaker 5>one along with his son, Ray of Sun John he's

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<v Speaker 5>got left gone.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just it's heartbreaking.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I loved about that scene as well as a

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<v Speaker 2>lovely touch of having him say to Vincent when he

0:22:28.760 --> 0:22:31.000
<v Speaker 2>yells at Vincent for it interrupting, which is a lovely

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<v Speaker 2>It's consistent with the way the family operates. You may

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<v Speaker 2>remember in the First Godfather, when Sonny talks during one

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<v Speaker 2>of the meetings that he's having and Marlon Brando, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they shuts him down and apologizes and says to me,

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<v Speaker 2>I spoil my family. Sometimes they don't know when to

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<v Speaker 2>listen and when to shut up. And so that was

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<v Speaker 2>a nice touch. What did you think of Andy Garcia

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<v Speaker 2>as Vincent? So Vincent's dad's Sonny's son, but his mother

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<v Speaker 2>is the bridesmaid that Sonny had the affair with right

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<v Speaker 2>in the first like they go to the bathroom and

0:23:05.800 --> 0:23:07.320
<v Speaker 2>they have sex in the bathroom, and then he visits

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<v Speaker 2>her again during the movie, I think, just before he

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<v Speaker 2>gets assassinated. So that's he's like the bastard son Light

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<v Speaker 2>and that's why he hasn't had maybe a lot to

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<v Speaker 2>do with with Michael up until this point.

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<v Speaker 1>So what did you think of Andy Garcia?

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<v Speaker 5>I means is amazing, but it was, it was really

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<v Speaker 5>it was really interesting seeing him. Alputina's character had wanted

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<v Speaker 5>to go straight and you had this other one who

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<v Speaker 5>wanted revenge and was that same sort of hot head

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<v Speaker 5>he was when he was younger.

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<v Speaker 3>But what I was confused by was so he is

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<v Speaker 3>cousins with Sophia Coppler's character.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So did Michael not want them to get together

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<v Speaker 5>because it was gross or because it was dangerous or both?

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<v Speaker 1>Thought, I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, because it's it illegal, it's illegal to

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<v Speaker 3>have marry your cousin in Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>Rights your Tasmanian discuss this on the mainland. It's certainly

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's illegal.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, because and the risk is of birth defects, right, Yes,

0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:10.840
<v Speaker 5>I think yes, which is a funny one because I

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<v Speaker 5>do wonder if, like, if let's say there was absolutely

0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:17.960
<v Speaker 5>zero genetic issue with marrying your your your sister or brother,

0:24:19.040 --> 0:24:24.080
<v Speaker 5>whether it's solely to protect the offspring, is why assume

0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:24.359
<v Speaker 5>that's what.

0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:26.359
<v Speaker 1>It's Wait, weakens the gene pool, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 5>I think so, I don't know how any medical knowledge

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<v Speaker 5>around it, and I've got two brothers, so it's going

0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:31.399
<v Speaker 5>to be possible for us.

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<v Speaker 1>You never know, that's true.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, science is amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, I was a little bit confused by that

0:24:39.240 --> 0:24:41.320
<v Speaker 5>because I'm just like, I wonder if that's as much

0:24:41.359 --> 0:24:45.920
<v Speaker 5>of a faux pa back then and culturally as it

0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:47.080
<v Speaker 5>is over here now.

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<v Speaker 2>It is, because my instant reaction was, what was that's

0:24:51.440 --> 0:24:54.680
<v Speaker 2>a bit gross? Yeah, but you're right, Michael. Michael doesn't

0:24:54.680 --> 0:24:57.760
<v Speaker 2>necessarily it feels like he's saying it more from a

0:24:57.840 --> 0:25:01.200
<v Speaker 2>protection point of view, like it's it's too it's too dangerous.

0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:03.720
<v Speaker 3>You're bringing her into our world. Our world is too dangerous,

0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:04.280
<v Speaker 3>as opposed to.

0:25:04.400 --> 0:25:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Just yuck, no, Vincent, what you're related?

0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:11.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? You related? Mate, It's it's gross. You can't.

0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:16.120
<v Speaker 2>Everyone's talking about this behind your back all the family functions.

0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:18.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's embarrassing. Yes, it's dangerous, but it's more it's

0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:19.000
<v Speaker 3>more embarrassing.

0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:22.720
<v Speaker 1>I like Andy Garcier, I like Vincent as a character.

0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:25.119
<v Speaker 1>I like the idea that I think you touched on

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:28.320
<v Speaker 1>it that Michael starts out and got father one not

0:25:28.440 --> 0:25:30.280
<v Speaker 1>wanting anything to do with the family business. And I

0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:30.600
<v Speaker 1>like that.

0:25:30.760 --> 0:25:32.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, Kay kind of brings that up later on

0:25:32.960 --> 0:25:35.600
<v Speaker 2>and we'll get to those discussions soon. But I like

0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:39.320
<v Speaker 2>that as opposed to what Michael was, because Vincent is

0:25:39.400 --> 0:25:42.280
<v Speaker 2>Sonny's kid, like he wants in, you know. Michael's trying

0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:44.040
<v Speaker 2>to get out and make the you know, and get

0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:46.080
<v Speaker 2>out of the business. And he says, I don't want out,

0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:49.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, I want in. And I think that's as

0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:51.680
<v Speaker 2>a point of difference. He's really good and also he's

0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:55.280
<v Speaker 2>really good at what he does, which is always attractive

0:25:55.320 --> 0:25:58.040
<v Speaker 2>on screen. Let's have a listen actually to Andy garcia

0:25:58.200 --> 0:26:01.440
<v Speaker 2>in action when he's with Bridge at Fonder, who plays

0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:04.240
<v Speaker 2>Grace Hamilton, and we don't actually see after this, which

0:26:04.280 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 2>is they don't explain in a thing about that, but

0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:09.600
<v Speaker 2>she's probably understandable that she's had a pretty scary experience

0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:13.160
<v Speaker 2>journalist is that she's a journalist. I suspect that maybe

0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:15.399
<v Speaker 2>there's something in the original script that where this was

0:26:15.680 --> 0:26:18.639
<v Speaker 2>was heading. But because it feels like setting her up

0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:21.679
<v Speaker 2>as a journalist feels like that it could have been

0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:22.320
<v Speaker 2>a plot point.

0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:25.800
<v Speaker 5>It feels like you could delete her entire plot line,

0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:28.960
<v Speaker 5>just have a you know, just have him in bed

0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:30.520
<v Speaker 5>and then there's an attempt on his life and he

0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:34.680
<v Speaker 5>stops it. Yeah, I don't understand what her role like.

0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:39.960
<v Speaker 5>I think she's amazing actor obviously, but if you feel

0:26:40.000 --> 0:26:43.600
<v Speaker 5>like her story was had no impact on the plot whatsoever.

0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:45.600
<v Speaker 1>It really felt like they were setting up her up

0:26:45.720 --> 0:26:47.960
<v Speaker 1>to be somebody in this world. Yeah.

0:26:48.000 --> 0:26:49.560
<v Speaker 3>I thought I thought you'd have a I thought you'd

0:26:49.560 --> 0:26:50.720
<v Speaker 3>be a main player in the story.

0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:52.960
<v Speaker 5>I thought, or maybe she'd expose them later on, or

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:58.280
<v Speaker 5>like they'd fall in love and maybe her journalistic intiguity

0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:00.720
<v Speaker 5>would go against opposing some she's fall in love with.

0:27:00.840 --> 0:27:02.120
<v Speaker 5>I thought it was gonna be a whole.

0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:04.960
<v Speaker 2>Thing, or maybe she was reporting on the Vatican deal

0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:07.840
<v Speaker 2>ye shading this of it and then maybe you know,

0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:10.120
<v Speaker 2>be a huge plates and had to kill her or something,

0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:12.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, like something that that felt like it could

0:27:12.280 --> 0:27:14.040
<v Speaker 2>have been a more interesting angle.

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:16.879
<v Speaker 1>But he's in bed with Grace.

0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Played by Bridge of Fonda, and let's just give a

0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:22.719
<v Speaker 2>shout out also to Andy Garcia's chest hair. I mean

0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:23.840
<v Speaker 2>that's that is a dark.

0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:26.480
<v Speaker 3>Beast like it's like a like another blanket on the bed.

0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:29.040
<v Speaker 1>It really, it's like a weighted blanket.

0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:29.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:33.439
<v Speaker 1>And then there's a two men break in and Vincent

0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:34.080
<v Speaker 1>deals with it.

0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:43.680
<v Speaker 4>Come on, let her go?

0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:45.240
<v Speaker 3>Could talk?

0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:45.439
<v Speaker 4>Man?

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:49.160
<v Speaker 1>What did you say?

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:49.800
<v Speaker 7>He said?

0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:57.440
<v Speaker 4>Kind of fucking throll? Okay, man, he's gonna cut a drop.

0:27:58.119 --> 0:28:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Put You're fucking crazy, I know, but you have God

0:28:00.800 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 1>got her?

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 7>What the fuck do act?

0:28:04.320 --> 0:28:07.200
<v Speaker 4>He got no choice? Man, the chick's gonna be dead.

0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:09.400
<v Speaker 7>You hurt her and I kill you both.

0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:11.920
<v Speaker 4>You give up that knife. I let you go?

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:16.000
<v Speaker 7>You could, he told me right there right, I want

0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 7>to do something.

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:16.879
<v Speaker 4>To convince you.

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:18.520
<v Speaker 1>Don't get fine, don't do any sudden.

0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:19.600
<v Speaker 4>Let's just watch me, all right.

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:20.680
<v Speaker 3>Do you hear what I said?

0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:26.880
<v Speaker 5>Okay? Oh, sh.

0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:30.240
<v Speaker 1>Rap the nuts.

0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:32.640
<v Speaker 3>Ahead, stop it, good boy.

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:34.199
<v Speaker 4>Sit down.

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:34.760
<v Speaker 1>I want to talk to you.

0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:36.480
<v Speaker 7>It's a wise choice.

0:28:36.480 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Sit down.

0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:39.560
<v Speaker 4>I want to talk to lose a mess.

0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 7>Relax, have a smoke, you smoke. Whose idea was this

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:58.280
<v Speaker 7>who's sench Come on, tell me who sent Take a

0:28:58.320 --> 0:28:59.040
<v Speaker 7>good look at this guy?

0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so who sent you? Joey's O.

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 2>No, Well, that coughing and splurring. He probably should need

0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:13.600
<v Speaker 2>to do a COVID test.

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 3>I think smoking kills.

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:18.360
<v Speaker 1>That's the lesson.

0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:20.520
<v Speaker 3>That was the hanging fruit that I went for.

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:21.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry.

0:29:22.200 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, like it was a really cool scene, but yeah,

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:28.560
<v Speaker 5>she was sort of introduced and then you just never heard.

0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:31.440
<v Speaker 2>From Reagon, maybe because we know, maybe it was a

0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:35.600
<v Speaker 2>less I thought, maybe your own actress like that. She's

0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 2>the biggest, you know, starting and I forget because obviously

0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:41.920
<v Speaker 2>she does single white female and she you know, I'm

0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 2>not sure that was before or after this, but it

0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:46.640
<v Speaker 2>was almost by the time I had seen it. It

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 2>was kind of distracting that it was her, at least

0:29:49.200 --> 0:29:51.360
<v Speaker 2>at the point where like she's going to be somebody,

0:29:51.400 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 2>and then when she's not and she's not really mentioned

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:54.440
<v Speaker 2>after this.

0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 1>It was probably weird, I.

0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:58.240
<v Speaker 5>Guess it just it just set up a lot of

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:01.520
<v Speaker 5>stuff where you know, she was trying to get an

0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:05.160
<v Speaker 5>interview with or trying to talk to Michael with the

0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:09.640
<v Speaker 5>card and you're like, okay, so she just and they

0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:13.560
<v Speaker 5>started to fall for each other. There's just a lot

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:15.720
<v Speaker 5>of things that looked like they were going to play

0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:17.640
<v Speaker 5>out somehow, and then all of a sudden she's got,

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:24.520
<v Speaker 5>you know, this life changing experience, near death experience, and

0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:26.200
<v Speaker 5>you're like, okay, has this going to what's this going

0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:27.160
<v Speaker 5>to do to the relationship?

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 3>And how is this? How are they going to be

0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:29.080
<v Speaker 3>able to come back from this?

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:32.200
<v Speaker 5>You know, I'd be pretty pissed if someone told me,

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:33.920
<v Speaker 5>if someone knew there was Assassin's in the house and

0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 5>tom me to go get a water, like send me

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 5>out his bait like sils And I talked about this

0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 5>on Rosehaven, like can you come back from someone jumping

0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 5>behind you in a robbery like using it as a

0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:50.000
<v Speaker 5>human shield, which is essentially what he did. I thought

0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:51.360
<v Speaker 5>this was going to be a whole thing, and then

0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:52.000
<v Speaker 5>there's just nothing.

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, there's a great Norwegian film called Forced Desure and

0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:58.720
<v Speaker 2>which is about which they made a remake and an

0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:01.120
<v Speaker 2>American remake with Will Ferrell and Julie Luis Dreyfus.

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:04.920
<v Speaker 1>I think they call it Damn four or something, and

0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:06.120
<v Speaker 1>which is pretty good.

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:08.880
<v Speaker 2>But the original Norwegian film is about the family on

0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:12.960
<v Speaker 2>a ski holiday and they're having breakfast out on the

0:31:13.480 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 2>decking of his ski resort, and this avalanche kind of

0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:20.200
<v Speaker 2>comes down and the dad just gets up and runs,

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 2>leaving his family behind. It's about them getting over and

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:27.320
<v Speaker 2>then then everything's okay and he is kind of walk

0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 2>back in and go.

0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:30.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, that was a bit weird, wasn't it.

0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:34.400
<v Speaker 2>It's about the family, and more so the moum his

0:31:34.560 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 2>wife kind of going like, what do you do when

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:39.360
<v Speaker 2>your partner.

0:31:40.560 --> 0:31:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Leaves you? She leaves you to die, but then you

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:44.720
<v Speaker 1>don't die.

0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:48.280
<v Speaker 5>There's a whole section of our personality that most of

0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:50.600
<v Speaker 5>us will never ever know, like some sort of life

0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 5>in this situation where you you know, might grab your

0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:56.400
<v Speaker 5>partner and put them in front of you or something,

0:31:56.520 --> 0:31:58.400
<v Speaker 5>or will you just run and leave them to save yourself,

0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:00.680
<v Speaker 5>Like and even though we all I think we wouldn't

0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:03.080
<v Speaker 5>do that, we'll never know because we'll probably never been,

0:32:03.200 --> 0:32:05.880
<v Speaker 5>especially hopefully you hopefully never know whether you know, will

0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:09.040
<v Speaker 5>never been a bank robbery or an avalanche or things

0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 5>like that where it's just like, you know, you hope

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:13.280
<v Speaker 5>you're not someone who saves yourself, but you know you

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:15.600
<v Speaker 5>might be dating someone right now who would happily throw

0:32:15.640 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 5>you in front of her a moving bust to save themselves.

0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:20.040
<v Speaker 3>But you'll just never know.

0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:27.320
<v Speaker 2>Something about Andy Garci's performance. All Andy Garcia's films he does.

0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:30.040
<v Speaker 2>He's got a great smile, and he can smile in

0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 2>the most where on paper it looks like you shouldn't

0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:37.280
<v Speaker 2>be smiling. Yeah, you know, like when he's introduced. I'm

0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:38.720
<v Speaker 2>not sure I you've seen The Untouchables, which is a

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:40.600
<v Speaker 2>film that I absolutely adore and love, and I've seen

0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:43.600
<v Speaker 2>many times when he's introduced and Sean Connery is like

0:32:43.720 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 2>racially racially abusing him basically, and he's just smiling almost

0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:51.160
<v Speaker 2>throughout until he doesn't until he goes okay, that's enough

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:55.080
<v Speaker 2>and he takes action. But he's when he's threatening, he

0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:57.320
<v Speaker 2>can still smile his way through it. There's something, really

0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:03.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm struggling to think of another actor who who does.

0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:05.040
<v Speaker 2>I think it's quite unique to Andy Garcia.

0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:09.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he's he's one of those actors that looks like

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:15.040
<v Speaker 5>there's more going on. Yeah, meets the eye, he's Yeah,

0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 5>there's I feel like a lot of the the best

0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:20.640
<v Speaker 5>of the best do it. But yeah, it just where

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:24.520
<v Speaker 5>it looks like this, you know, machinations playing out and

0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:27.000
<v Speaker 5>small movements and things like that. It's one of the

0:33:27.080 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 5>things I always wonder with writing is how you can

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 5>have a You can say I want to keep this

0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 5>mysterious or this character mysterious. But the difference between a

0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:41.920
<v Speaker 5>character that's mysterious and a character that just isn't very

0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:44.360
<v Speaker 5>well written and has a lot of gaps. It's a

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:47.080
<v Speaker 5>tricky line to walk. But you know, an actor like

0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:51.480
<v Speaker 5>him can can you can bring a lot to only

0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 5>a small amount of story or things like that. You

0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:56.719
<v Speaker 5>get it because he has so much gravitas.

0:33:56.840 --> 0:34:00.200
<v Speaker 2>And there's always a trick when you when you think

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 2>you're writing, you do want the audience to have questions

0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:07.200
<v Speaker 2>in their head. Yeah, yeah, Like you don't want the

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:09.880
<v Speaker 2>audience to be writing alongside you. You need to be

0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:13.040
<v Speaker 2>ahead of your audience so they're kind of thinking okay.

0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:15.840
<v Speaker 2>But I think particularly in films and like drama, I

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:17.520
<v Speaker 2>guess you know, you want to be thinking like who's

0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 2>That's why sometimes movies do start mysteriously and you're.

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Going to think like why are you doing that?

0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:26.600
<v Speaker 2>And you're not supposed to know straight away, But there

0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:29.120
<v Speaker 2>is a line of like where if you have too

0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:33.080
<v Speaker 2>many questions, then it becomes confusing. You feel lost and

0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:34.759
<v Speaker 2>then you kind of start giving up on the film.

0:34:35.280 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 2>So it is a fine balance.

0:34:36.600 --> 0:34:38.320
<v Speaker 3>It's I always think about how.

0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:42.480
<v Speaker 5>With Lord of the Rings talk and spend so much

0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:48.560
<v Speaker 5>time sort of flishing at the Law. But and then

0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:52.439
<v Speaker 5>so his world feels like it's consistent, it has rules

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:57.319
<v Speaker 5>that you can sort of understand, whereas I read another

0:34:57.360 --> 0:34:59.719
<v Speaker 5>book and maybe I won't tell the author, but I

0:34:59.719 --> 0:35:02.400
<v Speaker 5>don't know bag them out. But I read one of

0:35:02.440 --> 0:35:03.040
<v Speaker 5>their books.

0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Where it was there'll be a Frankie fishbook.

0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:10.640
<v Speaker 5>No, but there obviously I know you spent a lot

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:14.360
<v Speaker 5>of time with the Law, but it was it was

0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:16.640
<v Speaker 5>the same sort of you know, magic, saucery, fantasy, that

0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 5>sort of stuff, but there was no It feels like

0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:21.279
<v Speaker 5>they were making up what magic did and the rules

0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:21.959
<v Speaker 5>as they went along.

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:23.839
<v Speaker 3>It didn't feel like I had any consistency.

0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:27.040
<v Speaker 5>And you can you can tell even though you knew

0:35:27.040 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 5>about the same amount of the world as you did

0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:30.640
<v Speaker 5>Lord of the Rings. But Lord of Rings felt like

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:36.520
<v Speaker 5>it had a cohesion, a congruency with everything.

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:38.279
<v Speaker 3>I don't know it was. Yeah, I feel like you

0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:39.759
<v Speaker 3>can tell when the author doesn't know what they did

0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:40.920
<v Speaker 3>where they're going with it.

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:43.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the elephant in the room when we talk about

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:48.160
<v Speaker 2>Godfather Pat three is Sophie Coppola's involvement. So she was

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:52.399
<v Speaker 2>a last minute replacement for Winona writer had gone to Rome,

0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:57.239
<v Speaker 2>was supposed to film this and basically passed out in

0:35:57.360 --> 0:36:01.000
<v Speaker 2>her hotel room through exhaustion. She was, I mean, weinarda

0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:04.160
<v Speaker 2>writer was hot at this point. I think she just

0:36:04.200 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 2>come off Mermaids with Share. Was dating Johnny Depp at

0:36:08.600 --> 0:36:11.800
<v Speaker 2>the time. That was the famous you know, Whino Forever.

0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:15.160
<v Speaker 2>Johnny Depp had a tattoo, were known Forever. Then they

0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:18.840
<v Speaker 2>split up. He got to change to Whino Forever. We

0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:21.120
<v Speaker 2>went delve too much into Johnny depths to relationships at

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:26.239
<v Speaker 2>another podcast it's another counter Worms, it's another podcast. But

0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:29.560
<v Speaker 2>pulled out and because she was sick or what.

0:36:29.840 --> 0:36:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it just just was exhausted.

0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:36.560
<v Speaker 2>France for Coppola is in a bind and then casts

0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:40.480
<v Speaker 2>his daughter, who had I think I'm not sure how

0:36:40.560 --> 0:36:42.359
<v Speaker 2>much I think she really even wanted to be an

0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:44.759
<v Speaker 2>actual She had some interest, but like you know, I'm

0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:48.960
<v Speaker 2>not it wasn't necessarily working towards that. Obviously, she becomes

0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:53.239
<v Speaker 2>this amazing director. Most of the criticism of Godfather Pat three,

0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:56.759
<v Speaker 2>a lot of it focuses I think really unfairly on her.

0:36:57.080 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 2>She wins like razzies, you know which I feel like

0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:02.640
<v Speaker 2>rais is a fun when you give them to like

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:06.279
<v Speaker 2>Sylvesister Lione, or you give them to you know, you know,

0:37:06.840 --> 0:37:10.160
<v Speaker 2>Arnie or something like that. I feel like giving it

0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:13.520
<v Speaker 2>to some very cobble under these circumstances is punching down

0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:13.960
<v Speaker 2>a little bit.

0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:15.200
<v Speaker 3>Did a good job?

0:37:16.280 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Didn't?

0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:18.719
<v Speaker 5>It didn't because I didn't know any the history of

0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:21.560
<v Speaker 5>the film before. I didn't know that she was known

0:37:21.600 --> 0:37:24.520
<v Speaker 5>as someone who was a bad actor in it. Thought

0:37:24.680 --> 0:37:27.000
<v Speaker 5>so to me watching it, I just thought she was great.

0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:29.920
<v Speaker 5>And I think it helped too that she had she

0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:31.759
<v Speaker 5>had really good actors around her, So even if she

0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:33.080
<v Speaker 5>didn't have a lot of experience, it didn't.

0:37:33.320 --> 0:37:34.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I thought I thought she kept up

0:37:34.600 --> 0:37:34.919
<v Speaker 3>with everyone.

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was I thought she completely it was great.

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:42.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, and I think I think it's not

0:37:42.520 --> 0:37:45.640
<v Speaker 2>helped by the eakiness of the storyline. And in a way,

0:37:46.280 --> 0:37:50.600
<v Speaker 2>because she's the one Mary's the one who is coming

0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:53.520
<v Speaker 2>on to Vincent and being you know, like back in

0:37:53.600 --> 0:37:56.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, we go back, you know, thirty years ago,

0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 2>it probably felt ickyer for audiences then you know, like

0:37:59.840 --> 0:38:02.560
<v Speaker 2>they cousins. It's the woman, you know, coming on to

0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:04.680
<v Speaker 2>the man. I think there are a number of things

0:38:04.719 --> 0:38:06.760
<v Speaker 2>that would have led people to kind of be put off.

0:38:07.360 --> 0:38:09.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like criticizing her rather than.

0:38:10.160 --> 0:38:14.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and knowing the nepotism of but Talia Shay is

0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:16.640
<v Speaker 2>related here, you know, like to you know, in fact,

0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:22.279
<v Speaker 2>Talia Shai Connie, who plays Mary's auntie, is actually Sep

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:24.520
<v Speaker 2>Coppler's auntie and in real life.

0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 1>But I feel like like.

0:38:26.120 --> 0:38:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Coppler coups so much for like the nepotism of this,

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:33.000
<v Speaker 2>but like so many people in Hollywood aren't connected, Like

0:38:33.640 --> 0:38:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Nick Cage is a Coppola.

0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:38.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you never kind of hear that a lot

0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:41.719
<v Speaker 3>of these And there are absolutely people who've worked hard

0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:44.799
<v Speaker 3>and reached the top just through you know, liking grit

0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:46.560
<v Speaker 3>and blah blah blah, but there are also a hell

0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:48.359
<v Speaker 3>of a lot of people who've been successful who are

0:38:48.440 --> 0:38:49.520
<v Speaker 3>extremely well connected.

0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:50.279
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely.

0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:54.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I really I thought she was great, especially in

0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:57.920
<v Speaker 3>the scene where you know Andy Garcia first you know,

0:38:58.080 --> 0:39:00.480
<v Speaker 3>sort of breaks it off and she's really of like

0:39:00.600 --> 0:39:04.360
<v Speaker 3>you really sort of feel her pain and that she

0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:05.400
<v Speaker 3>was I thought she was brilliant.

0:39:05.480 --> 0:39:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I really I really liked her and thought, I

0:39:08.040 --> 0:39:11.279
<v Speaker 2>think under the circumstances, yeah, I'm like I said, you're

0:39:11.280 --> 0:39:13.160
<v Speaker 2>watching it claim without knowing any of this, and you

0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:14.400
<v Speaker 2>really loved her performance.

0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:15.400
<v Speaker 1>And I think.

0:39:16.840 --> 0:39:19.000
<v Speaker 2>Once we even know the circumstances, she kind of came

0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:22.440
<v Speaker 2>in at the last minute, which basically a non actor.

0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:23.799
<v Speaker 3>Makes it makes it makes it even better.

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:25.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's a really strong performance.

0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:27.600
<v Speaker 5>She's you know, these are some of the regarded these

0:39:27.760 --> 0:39:29.560
<v Speaker 5>some of the people she's reading with regard to some

0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:31.359
<v Speaker 5>of the best actors of all time, and I think

0:39:31.440 --> 0:39:34.640
<v Speaker 5>she did a Yeah. The fact that she's able to

0:39:35.000 --> 0:39:36.719
<v Speaker 5>keep pace with them on her you know, on this

0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:38.560
<v Speaker 5>set of what I imagine was a very nerve wracking

0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:40.040
<v Speaker 5>shot where you've got your dad directing and you're having

0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:41.000
<v Speaker 5>to fill in the last minute.

0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:42.160
<v Speaker 3>So she killed it.

0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:42.640
<v Speaker 1>It's great.

0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:46.800
<v Speaker 2>She probably thinks that various times that did we have

0:39:46.920 --> 0:39:51.840
<v Speaker 2>to be related? God, do wonder if you took that

0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:54.160
<v Speaker 2>character out? And this is not no reflection on a

0:39:54.200 --> 0:39:55.799
<v Speaker 2>couple of bit. More so, what we're talking about before

0:39:55.840 --> 0:40:01.719
<v Speaker 2>about the bridget Fonda's character that if you kind of

0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:04.560
<v Speaker 2>go along that way, Michael could still have that conversation

0:40:04.640 --> 0:40:07.000
<v Speaker 2>about like, you can't you got to give up this relationship.

0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:09.520
<v Speaker 2>There might be because a lot of it is about family,

0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:11.680
<v Speaker 2>So I'm acknowledging that.

0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:14.160
<v Speaker 5>So it's almost that they were sort of forced into that,

0:40:14.360 --> 0:40:17.800
<v Speaker 5>right because if he if he wasn't family, then he

0:40:17.840 --> 0:40:19.640
<v Speaker 5>couldn't ascend to the top of the chain.

0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Is that right?

0:40:20.120 --> 0:40:21.600
<v Speaker 3>He wouldn't have been able to take on.

0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:24.319
<v Speaker 1>The role of yeah, as godfather and so.

0:40:26.280 --> 0:40:29.920
<v Speaker 5>And so if it was his it was, if it

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:32.719
<v Speaker 5>was just a guy outside of it dating the daughter,

0:40:32.719 --> 0:40:34.319
<v Speaker 5>that wouldn't have worried it needed to be both right

0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:37.480
<v Speaker 5>that he needed to be in love and related for

0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:41.799
<v Speaker 5>the for the stakes to be what they were. Yes, yeah, yeah,

0:40:42.239 --> 0:40:45.239
<v Speaker 5>because if he was to say to someone to do

0:40:45.360 --> 0:40:48.200
<v Speaker 5>this life, you have to say goodbye to that, like,

0:40:48.320 --> 0:40:50.520
<v Speaker 5>he couldn't make that because he never did. She left

0:40:50.600 --> 0:40:55.239
<v Speaker 5>him and he lost it, so he would. The only

0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:56.600
<v Speaker 5>reason he was able to do it is because he

0:40:57.000 --> 0:40:59.040
<v Speaker 5>that's his daughter and he said, I'll do this if

0:40:59.040 --> 0:40:59.560
<v Speaker 5>you let her.

0:41:00.000 --> 0:41:02.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't know it it was the whole thing. Yeah,

0:41:02.120 --> 0:41:02.400
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:41:02.440 --> 0:41:04.480
<v Speaker 5>It's confusing and maybe that and maybe that was part

0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:06.680
<v Speaker 5>of it why it was film was criticized this because

0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:10.280
<v Speaker 5>it didn't have that. It wasn't quite as clear narratively

0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:12.040
<v Speaker 5>exactly what was well.

0:41:12.080 --> 0:41:13.839
<v Speaker 2>I think those two things going on. There's the whole

0:41:13.960 --> 0:41:16.120
<v Speaker 2>Vatican deal, which you want something like that happening, and

0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:19.680
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was a really interesting area to look at.

0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 2>Funnily enough, the Vatican, the Vatican owned the real estate

0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:28.279
<v Speaker 2>the Paramount Pictures was actually on right and fanciful complot.

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:29.400
<v Speaker 1>That had no idea about this.

0:41:30.320 --> 0:41:32.680
<v Speaker 2>I think he only found out maybe whilst a film

0:41:32.719 --> 0:41:34.400
<v Speaker 2>we were after the old filming, or even since they

0:41:34.640 --> 0:41:37.400
<v Speaker 2>have filmed, which is an interesting tip. It's not the

0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:40.600
<v Speaker 2>most fascinating part of it, I think it is. I

0:41:40.719 --> 0:41:44.200
<v Speaker 2>think when they start talking about you know when I

0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:45.799
<v Speaker 2>love that, Freda kind comes up. And this is why

0:41:45.840 --> 0:41:50.399
<v Speaker 2>I think actually starting with the Vatican deal is much

0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:52.640
<v Speaker 2>better than leading with the Freda stup. I like that

0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:55.200
<v Speaker 2>this comes into it. I think the first time, maybe

0:41:55.320 --> 0:41:56.560
<v Speaker 2>I might be wrong, but the first time you hear

0:41:56.600 --> 0:41:59.719
<v Speaker 2>about Fredo is when Mary asked Vincent about is it

0:41:59.719 --> 0:42:03.600
<v Speaker 2>true that my dad killed Fredo? Yeah, it may come

0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:07.760
<v Speaker 2>up before then, but certainly when when they're in Sicily,

0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:11.879
<v Speaker 2>it's it becomes largely about that so I don't think

0:42:11.920 --> 0:42:13.560
<v Speaker 2>you need it. I don't think Francis for a couple

0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:15.640
<v Speaker 2>of needed to lead with it. I think it's such

0:42:15.680 --> 0:42:19.120
<v Speaker 2>a big thing in the Godfather world. You know that

0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:23.400
<v Speaker 2>Michael ordered the murder of his brother. Yeah, that you

0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:25.760
<v Speaker 2>don't have the strong arm it into the story.

0:42:26.000 --> 0:42:30.719
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, especially when they talk about family so much and

0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:32.040
<v Speaker 5>then he killed one of his own.

0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:34.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's interesting.

0:42:34.120 --> 0:42:38.960
<v Speaker 5>It was, I think, and I really feel like an

0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:41.759
<v Speaker 5>asshole bagging at Godfather Part three because obviously it's you know,

0:42:41.960 --> 0:42:45.000
<v Speaker 5>it's it's an amazing film, but I.

0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:46.799
<v Speaker 1>Guess one of them, you're not the first person.

0:42:47.840 --> 0:42:49.360
<v Speaker 5>One of the things that bugged me little is that

0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:53.600
<v Speaker 5>it did feel like a lot of its threads weren't

0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:56.120
<v Speaker 5>necessarily maybe as tightly connected as they could have been.

0:42:56.239 --> 0:42:59.680
<v Speaker 5>Like it feels like you could probably take out the

0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:01.960
<v Speaker 5>bad Can deal and just have him be at war

0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:04.120
<v Speaker 5>with the guy in New York. Maybe he's trying to

0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:06.440
<v Speaker 5>like they feel that there was like the fact that

0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:10.480
<v Speaker 5>he had a bigger baddie and the Vatican. Actually, what

0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:12.560
<v Speaker 5>I thought like ruined the stakes with what I thought

0:43:12.680 --> 0:43:14.000
<v Speaker 5>was being set up to be the villain who you

0:43:14.080 --> 0:43:15.600
<v Speaker 5>cared about, which was this is the guy who was

0:43:15.640 --> 0:43:19.400
<v Speaker 5>running new things in New York and was all about

0:43:19.440 --> 0:43:21.840
<v Speaker 5>that life while Michael's trying to be not about that life.

0:43:22.160 --> 0:43:23.800
<v Speaker 5>That felt like, okay, that's going to be an interesting

0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:26.080
<v Speaker 5>but then they just dismissed him and said, oh no,

0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:28.319
<v Speaker 5>we've got a bigger enemy, which was the Vatican, which

0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:30.440
<v Speaker 5>was just done in phone calls, and you had no

0:43:30.560 --> 0:43:31.839
<v Speaker 5>personal stakes in these people.

0:43:32.160 --> 0:43:35.400
<v Speaker 2>They were just Yeah, I think that's a really good point.

0:43:35.680 --> 0:43:39.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean that shootout scene that the ambush is brilliant

0:43:39.520 --> 0:43:42.719
<v Speaker 2>when he leaves, follows him out.

0:43:42.680 --> 0:43:44.160
<v Speaker 3>And you're like, oh wow, I wonder how he organize that,

0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:45.520
<v Speaker 3>and you're like, oh, he didn't. It was these guys.

0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:47.520
<v Speaker 3>It was his precy haven't torried about since the start.

0:43:48.760 --> 0:43:50.760
<v Speaker 5>It took a lot of the oh, like I stopped

0:43:50.760 --> 0:43:53.000
<v Speaker 5>caring at the end, yeah, because I was just like,

0:43:53.080 --> 0:43:55.520
<v Speaker 5>these guys have no connection, They're just these guys are

0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:56.399
<v Speaker 5>just a business deal.

0:43:57.040 --> 0:43:57.920
<v Speaker 3>They're a contractor.

0:43:58.080 --> 0:43:59.120
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a really good point.

0:43:59.200 --> 0:44:02.360
<v Speaker 2>And behind the scenes, France for a couple is frustrated

0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:06.200
<v Speaker 2>that he only had six six weeks to write this

0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:09.960
<v Speaker 2>Paramount wanted it out for a Christmas release. Oh my god,

0:44:10.120 --> 0:44:13.920
<v Speaker 2>well nine ninety so imagine imagine writing and directing and

0:44:14.040 --> 0:44:19.359
<v Speaker 2>producing these two watershed movies that are considered the absolute

0:44:19.920 --> 0:44:22.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, at the top end of cinema, like the

0:44:22.880 --> 0:44:26.480
<v Speaker 2>greatest film's ever made. They're in that conversation and then

0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:30.680
<v Speaker 2>he under a third installment and they say, you've only

0:44:30.719 --> 0:44:32.560
<v Speaker 2>got six months to write or six weeks to write

0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:33.560
<v Speaker 2>six weeks.

0:44:33.760 --> 0:44:35.279
<v Speaker 3>Knowing that he only had a month and a half

0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:35.800
<v Speaker 3>to write it.

0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:39.640
<v Speaker 1>That explains what I think this film is genius.

0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:44.520
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, because six weeks to write. I mean, what

0:44:44.640 --> 0:44:47.279
<v Speaker 3>do we spend on Rose Heaven per episode? Maybe maybe

0:44:47.680 --> 0:44:51.560
<v Speaker 3>two to four weeks i'd say per episode. The fact

0:44:51.560 --> 0:44:53.440
<v Speaker 3>that he wrote this film that holds up as well

0:44:53.480 --> 0:44:55.000
<v Speaker 3>as it does in six weeks, that's I mean, this

0:44:55.120 --> 0:44:58.680
<v Speaker 3>guy's an absolute genius. Yeah, like if he had twice

0:44:58.800 --> 0:45:01.960
<v Speaker 3>that you know. Yeah, I take back of my criticisms.

0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:04.040
<v Speaker 3>Godfather p. Three is the work of absolute genius.

0:45:04.320 --> 0:45:08.880
<v Speaker 2>And I imagine franch for Coppola wanted to get to Sicily.

0:45:09.280 --> 0:45:11.920
<v Speaker 2>It feels right, yeah that they go to Sicily and

0:45:12.000 --> 0:45:17.279
<v Speaker 2>they do this, Yeah, largely because of you know, the

0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:20.960
<v Speaker 2>business that the Vatican and also you know, Anthony is performing,

0:45:21.680 --> 0:45:25.160
<v Speaker 2>which it's a lovely two people who work in the arts.

0:45:25.440 --> 0:45:27.600
<v Speaker 2>It's a lovely element to it, like having to go

0:45:27.760 --> 0:45:31.160
<v Speaker 2>to your dad and say, you know, Kate does it,

0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:35.279
<v Speaker 2>you know for him, but to say, you know, he

0:45:35.320 --> 0:45:38.480
<v Speaker 2>doesn't want to follow in your footsteps. He he you know,

0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:41.839
<v Speaker 2>he wants to sing. And this is how Michael would

0:45:41.880 --> 0:45:43.680
<v Speaker 2>react to it because he never wanted to be part

0:45:43.719 --> 0:45:45.719
<v Speaker 2>of the family business. So in a way, his son

0:45:45.920 --> 0:45:47.520
<v Speaker 2>is taking after him.

0:45:47.960 --> 0:45:48.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's interesting.

0:45:49.000 --> 0:45:52.000
<v Speaker 5>That was a sort of unnecessary. It felt like there

0:45:52.080 --> 0:45:54.920
<v Speaker 5>was an extra step there, and that Michael didn't want

0:45:54.960 --> 0:45:58.160
<v Speaker 5>him in crime. And he's like, okay, great, well I

0:45:58.280 --> 0:46:00.359
<v Speaker 5>want to be a singer, and Mike's like, I want

0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:02.360
<v Speaker 5>you to be a lawyer as a safet him. Like, Michael,

0:46:02.400 --> 0:46:03.799
<v Speaker 5>you're one of the richest people on earth.

0:46:03.880 --> 0:46:07.400
<v Speaker 3>You can afford for your son to be in the arts. Okay,

0:46:08.880 --> 0:46:10.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't know why you need him to have a

0:46:10.280 --> 0:46:11.239
<v Speaker 3>backup lawyer job.

0:46:12.239 --> 0:46:14.640
<v Speaker 2>You're not reading the papers checking out government funding for

0:46:14.719 --> 0:46:16.440
<v Speaker 2>the like you're sweating on elections.

0:46:16.640 --> 0:46:18.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you're he's gonna be fine no matter what, Like

0:46:19.000 --> 0:46:21.240
<v Speaker 5>he could just live off. So that was like another

0:46:22.040 --> 0:46:26.200
<v Speaker 5>extra element of I don't know why he's worried about

0:46:26.280 --> 0:46:28.480
<v Speaker 5>him not being a lawyer when as long as he's

0:46:28.480 --> 0:46:29.439
<v Speaker 5>doing something much lucky.

0:46:29.520 --> 0:46:32.399
<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe he wanted that that connective tissue like kind

0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:34.719
<v Speaker 2>of like because it would have put him somewhere in

0:46:34.800 --> 0:46:38.240
<v Speaker 2>the middle, like not not necessarily dealing with the crime

0:46:38.320 --> 0:46:40.360
<v Speaker 2>and not being part of the murky world of the crime,

0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:43.279
<v Speaker 2>but still that's still connected to the family business where

0:46:43.480 --> 0:46:45.960
<v Speaker 2>they can he can look after the family without getting

0:46:45.960 --> 0:46:46.560
<v Speaker 2>his hands dirty.

0:46:46.640 --> 0:46:48.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's true. That's that's true.

0:46:48.400 --> 0:46:50.600
<v Speaker 2>I do like that he comes he comes around, and

0:46:50.680 --> 0:46:52.759
<v Speaker 2>it's not doesn't become a real focus of the film.

0:46:52.800 --> 0:46:55.120
<v Speaker 1>But he's fighting this. There's too many other things going on.

0:46:55.400 --> 0:46:57.320
<v Speaker 5>It's quite a lovely moment when he just looks and

0:46:57.400 --> 0:47:00.200
<v Speaker 5>it's lovely to see him proud of his suddenly. He

0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:01.719
<v Speaker 5>did make that scene where he's in the sun watching

0:47:01.760 --> 0:47:04.399
<v Speaker 5>his hit Harder, knowing that he was against it at first.

0:47:04.600 --> 0:47:06.439
<v Speaker 5>But it's just it was just strange, I guess, because

0:47:06.440 --> 0:47:09.560
<v Speaker 5>it would be like, you know, Jeff Bezos saying to

0:47:09.680 --> 0:47:10.640
<v Speaker 5>his son, I.

0:47:10.719 --> 0:47:11.760
<v Speaker 3>Don't don't be a singer.

0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:13.960
<v Speaker 5>You know what if you run it, what if it

0:47:13.960 --> 0:47:17.960
<v Speaker 5>doesn't pay enough, He's going to be okay, He's got you.

0:47:18.600 --> 0:47:20.200
<v Speaker 1>He wasn'tying. It was not saying that.

0:47:20.680 --> 0:47:22.600
<v Speaker 2>I like that they did start of the wedding, you know,

0:47:22.760 --> 0:47:26.040
<v Speaker 2>it becomes a Godfather kind of tip of the hat

0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:28.759
<v Speaker 2>and Johnny Fontaine being back, and I quite liked as well.

0:47:29.280 --> 0:47:30.319
<v Speaker 3>Did I did I miss?

0:47:30.520 --> 0:47:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Am?

0:47:30.719 --> 0:47:35.160
<v Speaker 3>I remembering wrong? Did Harvey? Who was the lawyer?

0:47:36.040 --> 0:47:37.279
<v Speaker 1>So Robert de Val did he?

0:47:37.719 --> 0:47:38.279
<v Speaker 3>He didn't die.

0:47:38.800 --> 0:47:40.520
<v Speaker 1>He did not die. There's a quick reference in this

0:47:40.640 --> 0:47:41.160
<v Speaker 1>that he died.

0:47:42.160 --> 0:47:45.040
<v Speaker 3>There is, Yeah, he just couldn't. He couldn't do the film, or.

0:47:45.200 --> 0:47:47.080
<v Speaker 2>He wouldn't do it because of money dispute. There's a

0:47:47.080 --> 0:47:49.400
<v Speaker 2>lot of right, there's a lot of dispute about cash

0:47:49.640 --> 0:47:53.440
<v Speaker 2>going into this film. So al Pacino wanted seven million dollars,

0:47:53.920 --> 0:47:56.480
<v Speaker 2>they were offering five million. Okay, he wasn't He was

0:47:56.520 --> 0:47:58.920
<v Speaker 2>almost not going to do it, And Francois A Coupler said, well,

0:47:59.080 --> 0:48:02.839
<v Speaker 2>would have started with a with Michael, And I'm I'm

0:48:02.920 --> 0:48:04.160
<v Speaker 2>sure what happens to the rest of the film because

0:48:04.160 --> 0:48:05.240
<v Speaker 2>Michael sounds pretty important.

0:48:05.280 --> 0:48:08.080
<v Speaker 3>Still, there's a lot of minutes. Really it sounds like

0:48:08.120 --> 0:48:08.719
<v Speaker 3>a bluff to me.

0:48:09.040 --> 0:48:11.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he really does sound like a bluff. But al

0:48:11.120 --> 0:48:14.680
<v Speaker 2>Pacino agreed to do it, but Robert Devall thought he

0:48:14.760 --> 0:48:18.680
<v Speaker 2>should have. He played Tom Hagen and he's so good.

0:48:18.760 --> 0:48:21.440
<v Speaker 3>He's such a Yeah, his characters are love to him

0:48:21.480 --> 0:48:21.839
<v Speaker 3>in the film.

0:48:22.000 --> 0:48:24.440
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and George Hamilton plays the family lawyer here, but

0:48:24.680 --> 0:48:27.160
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't have much to do and he's he's fine.

0:48:27.160 --> 0:48:29.279
<v Speaker 2>He does what he needs to do, but there's nothing spectacular.

0:48:29.600 --> 0:48:31.920
<v Speaker 3>It becomes sort of a non character.

0:48:32.080 --> 0:48:34.600
<v Speaker 1>He feels like a character being written out. He put

0:48:34.680 --> 0:48:35.560
<v Speaker 1>in the plug some holes.

0:48:35.960 --> 0:48:39.399
<v Speaker 2>But Robert Devall basically said, it's a talk show where

0:48:39.400 --> 0:48:43.120
<v Speaker 2>he speaks quite openly about it. He said he got

0:48:43.160 --> 0:48:45.600
<v Speaker 2>off with one million, and he thought he should have

0:48:45.680 --> 0:48:50.960
<v Speaker 2>been getting, you know, closer to what Bacino was getting,

0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:52.120
<v Speaker 2>but they wouldn't budge.

0:48:52.840 --> 0:48:53.640
<v Speaker 1>They would not budge.

0:48:53.800 --> 0:48:56.120
<v Speaker 2>And and he said, if they had to come back

0:48:56.320 --> 0:48:59.879
<v Speaker 2>and said, you know, three million, you know, like maybe

0:49:00.120 --> 0:49:04.160
<v Speaker 2>you know three fifths of what Paceno is getting one fifth,

0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:06.480
<v Speaker 2>then we probably would have got something done. But his

0:49:06.719 --> 0:49:10.080
<v Speaker 2>view was that this was only to make money. Everyone

0:49:10.200 --> 0:49:11.880
<v Speaker 2>was just doing this to make money. Why else do

0:49:12.000 --> 0:49:14.160
<v Speaker 2>this film but to make money? Now, I'd also argue

0:49:14.160 --> 0:49:17.040
<v Speaker 2>that of course every movie is hoping to make money. Yeah, yeah,

0:49:17.360 --> 0:49:20.000
<v Speaker 2>But I do think I disagree in that I think

0:49:20.040 --> 0:49:24.280
<v Speaker 2>there's more substance to this film than what that that suggests.

0:49:24.800 --> 0:49:29.719
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think the studio absolutely by the fact that

0:49:29.760 --> 0:49:34.360
<v Speaker 5>they you know, they rushed the director to write it.

0:49:34.719 --> 0:49:40.279
<v Speaker 5>They tried to nickel and dime the actors. But yeah,

0:49:40.320 --> 0:49:42.560
<v Speaker 5>I don't think I certainly don't think Francis for Coppla

0:49:42.560 --> 0:49:45.120
<v Speaker 5>would because I'm assuming by then he was pretty financially stable.

0:49:45.200 --> 0:49:46.960
<v Speaker 3>I think he needed to make another one of these.

0:49:47.000 --> 0:49:50.600
<v Speaker 3>Bid him want too. Yeah, it's a shame too, because God,

0:49:50.640 --> 0:49:51.000
<v Speaker 3>he was good.

0:49:51.040 --> 0:49:52.840
<v Speaker 2>Didn't he was so good and it would have he

0:49:52.880 --> 0:49:55.640
<v Speaker 2>would have this added and friends with a couple of

0:49:55.760 --> 0:49:57.839
<v Speaker 2>Really was was disappointed.

0:49:58.080 --> 0:50:00.719
<v Speaker 3>I really missed him in it. Yeah, he was such

0:50:00.760 --> 0:50:01.560
<v Speaker 3>a good character.

0:50:02.840 --> 0:50:05.480
<v Speaker 2>What if it did raise I'm not sure how much

0:50:05.520 --> 0:50:09.680
<v Speaker 2>of it was the rewritten, but how much it raised

0:50:09.960 --> 0:50:14.160
<v Speaker 2>the presence of Talia Shi and Diane Keaton because that

0:50:14.280 --> 0:50:17.800
<v Speaker 2>was one of the things. I really enjoyed that both

0:50:18.080 --> 0:50:21.440
<v Speaker 2>Connie and Kay had more substance and things to do.

0:50:22.960 --> 0:50:23.160
<v Speaker 8>In this.

0:50:23.320 --> 0:50:24.960
<v Speaker 2>And there's a there's a great scene which you might

0:50:25.080 --> 0:50:30.880
<v Speaker 2>play where Kay talks to Michael about about well, what

0:50:31.000 --> 0:50:34.080
<v Speaker 2>they mean to each other and the horror of their relationship.

0:50:36.920 --> 0:50:38.759
<v Speaker 4>I spent my life protecting my son.

0:50:40.120 --> 0:50:43.480
<v Speaker 8>I spent my life protecting my family.

0:50:43.760 --> 0:50:48.040
<v Speaker 3>Let's be reasonable. Okay, that's a big thing, isn't it.

0:50:48.200 --> 0:50:51.239
<v Speaker 4>Michael, reason.

0:50:52.440 --> 0:50:53.399
<v Speaker 6>Backed up by murder.

0:51:04.840 --> 0:51:05.440
<v Speaker 8>I dread you.

0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:14.000
<v Speaker 9>I did what I could get to protect all of

0:51:14.120 --> 0:51:19.120
<v Speaker 9>you from mars in this world, but you became my horror.

0:51:22.480 --> 0:51:24.600
<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, I think it's I think it's brilliant.

0:51:25.440 --> 0:51:29.200
<v Speaker 3>It's yeah, she was. I don't get with brilliant.

0:51:30.200 --> 0:51:33.040
<v Speaker 5>What bugged me to about that is it's almost like

0:51:33.080 --> 0:51:35.120
<v Speaker 5>he's gaslighting her because he's saying, I do what I

0:51:35.120 --> 0:51:37.719
<v Speaker 5>can proceed from the horrors of this world. And he

0:51:38.200 --> 0:51:42.120
<v Speaker 5>he's the reason they need protection because of the business

0:51:42.160 --> 0:51:44.680
<v Speaker 5>he's in. He was a real estate agent or something

0:51:44.680 --> 0:51:47.360
<v Speaker 5>that they wouldn't need protection. He's he's he's he's brought

0:51:47.880 --> 0:51:49.120
<v Speaker 5>the horror to their doorstep.

0:51:49.640 --> 0:51:50.200
<v Speaker 1>What is it you?

0:51:51.040 --> 0:51:55.120
<v Speaker 3>Yes, sir? And he's trying to say, or I did

0:51:55.160 --> 0:51:56.840
<v Speaker 3>all this to protect you, so I wouldn't need it

0:51:56.880 --> 0:51:58.160
<v Speaker 3>if it wasn't for what you do.

0:51:58.400 --> 0:52:02.080
<v Speaker 2>It's but that's what's amazing about like, you're absolutely right,

0:52:02.719 --> 0:52:05.480
<v Speaker 2>but it's great from a dramatic point of view. The

0:52:05.640 --> 0:52:09.880
<v Speaker 2>murkiness of it all, like the murkiness of yes, you're right,

0:52:10.200 --> 0:52:13.480
<v Speaker 2>what you said is absolutely right. Look that that he's

0:52:13.520 --> 0:52:15.840
<v Speaker 2>the one who brings the horror in and Kay is

0:52:15.920 --> 0:52:19.680
<v Speaker 2>absolutely right, and the murkiness is the whole way through

0:52:19.880 --> 0:52:22.880
<v Speaker 2>and you cannot Yeah, this movie is really about I

0:52:22.960 --> 0:52:26.400
<v Speaker 2>think the sins of the Father really and they're on

0:52:26.520 --> 0:52:29.200
<v Speaker 2>this loop like once, and this was set up by

0:52:29.360 --> 0:52:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Vita Collione like the original Godfather like and this is

0:52:33.040 --> 0:52:36.239
<v Speaker 2>why I think, you know, that's that final scene and

0:52:36.320 --> 0:52:38.320
<v Speaker 2>the original god Father three, you see him die in

0:52:38.360 --> 0:52:39.200
<v Speaker 2>the chair by himself.

0:52:39.320 --> 0:52:42.200
<v Speaker 1>It kind of almost mirrors Vito was with you know,

0:52:42.400 --> 0:52:48.160
<v Speaker 1>he's a godson in the in the the orchard.

0:52:49.440 --> 0:52:52.520
<v Speaker 2>But it's it's very similar the way they die. They

0:52:52.719 --> 0:52:57.880
<v Speaker 2>basically die alone, and it's it's it's sad. I like

0:52:58.120 --> 0:53:00.640
<v Speaker 2>that Michael doesn't necessarily going to see him dyeing. The

0:53:00.760 --> 0:53:04.879
<v Speaker 2>idea is that death, that Mary's death is kind of death.

0:53:05.000 --> 0:53:05.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he.

0:53:07.520 --> 0:53:11.160
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it was because I thought obviously thought that was

0:53:11.800 --> 0:53:13.200
<v Speaker 5>he was going to die in the opera, and when

0:53:13.200 --> 0:53:14.319
<v Speaker 5>she died instead and then.

0:53:14.239 --> 0:53:16.160
<v Speaker 3>He died inside, that was really powerful, I thought.

0:53:16.280 --> 0:53:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:53:17.560 --> 0:53:21.680
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, it's when he's sort of saying to her,

0:53:22.200 --> 0:53:24.879
<v Speaker 5>I did all this to protect my family, Like it's

0:53:24.880 --> 0:53:26.840
<v Speaker 5>almost like he's trying to convince himself.

0:53:27.120 --> 0:53:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that this is this was worth it.

0:53:30.520 --> 0:53:33.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think that's yeah, that's really interesting like that,

0:53:34.920 --> 0:53:41.680
<v Speaker 2>surely Michael's not is intelligent, Like, surely he knows and

0:53:41.800 --> 0:53:43.240
<v Speaker 2>that's why he's trying.

0:53:43.080 --> 0:53:45.040
<v Speaker 1>To get out as well. Yeah, he's trying to get

0:53:45.040 --> 0:53:46.200
<v Speaker 1>it because he knows it's dangerous.

0:53:46.800 --> 0:53:48.319
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, I think anyway he can.

0:53:49.520 --> 0:53:51.160
<v Speaker 5>You can see it sort of you can see the

0:53:51.200 --> 0:53:52.960
<v Speaker 5>sort of reasoning breakdown in front of the priest where

0:53:53.040 --> 0:53:57.160
<v Speaker 5>he's he just starts crying because he knows that none

0:53:57.200 --> 0:54:02.520
<v Speaker 5>of this was justified and it you brought this on yourself.

0:54:02.560 --> 0:54:04.320
<v Speaker 5>He deserves to like I think the priest says, you

0:54:04.760 --> 0:54:06.200
<v Speaker 5>deserve to suffer or something like that.

0:54:06.280 --> 0:54:09.520
<v Speaker 2>But let's have let's have listened to Michael. Are they

0:54:09.600 --> 0:54:12.280
<v Speaker 2>in the Vatican. I'm they're supposed to be in the Vatican.

0:54:12.320 --> 0:54:14.560
<v Speaker 3>I think they're in there. They're in the Vatican or something.

0:54:14.719 --> 0:54:17.200
<v Speaker 2>They're in a holy place, I think, very holy place.

0:54:17.360 --> 0:54:21.399
<v Speaker 2>And it's a very very holy place, extremely holy place.

0:54:21.640 --> 0:54:25.279
<v Speaker 2>And and Michael, finally the vibe is holy. Yeah, for

0:54:25.360 --> 0:54:28.200
<v Speaker 2>the first time that we're aware of, confesses about the

0:54:28.280 --> 0:54:37.520
<v Speaker 2>actions of he took against Fredom.

0:54:36.239 --> 0:54:47.840
<v Speaker 4>Treating my wife God my son. Have you treated myself?

0:54:51.719 --> 0:54:58.880
<v Speaker 4>I killed men and what it meant to be killed?

0:55:01.440 --> 0:55:16.600
<v Speaker 4>Gone my son? Gone? Use go on my son. I kill.

0:55:19.400 --> 0:55:20.520
<v Speaker 3>M m.

0:55:22.440 --> 0:55:26.840
<v Speaker 4>I ordered the death of my brother. He injured me.

0:55:29.480 --> 0:55:30.839
<v Speaker 8>I killed my mother's son.

0:55:31.600 --> 0:55:32.160
<v Speaker 5>Mm hmmm.

0:55:33.440 --> 0:55:34.520
<v Speaker 4>I kill boy for us.

0:55:46.160 --> 0:55:50.280
<v Speaker 6>Your things are terrible and it is just that you suffer.

0:55:52.239 --> 0:55:56.600
<v Speaker 6>Your life would be redeemed. But I know that you

0:55:56.719 --> 0:55:58.960
<v Speaker 6>don't believe that you will not change.

0:56:04.239 --> 0:56:05.239
<v Speaker 4>You got the episode.

0:56:08.800 --> 0:56:09.680
<v Speaker 1>He does not hold back.

0:56:10.520 --> 0:56:14.640
<v Speaker 5>It's it's amazing. And the sound mixing too, of the

0:56:14.960 --> 0:56:18.480
<v Speaker 5>running water and the dur birds in the background, the bells,

0:56:18.520 --> 0:56:21.680
<v Speaker 5>it's like it's quite a picturesque, beautiful sound scatter. You

0:56:21.760 --> 0:56:23.319
<v Speaker 5>may be listening to to fall asleep to or something

0:56:23.360 --> 0:56:23.480
<v Speaker 5>like that.

0:56:23.600 --> 0:56:26.759
<v Speaker 3>But he's just saying, no music, no music, and it's shot.

0:56:27.080 --> 0:56:31.640
<v Speaker 2>It's shot like they're in confession with the roses, kind

0:56:31.680 --> 0:56:33.160
<v Speaker 2>of in the petition in between them.

0:56:33.200 --> 0:56:34.240
<v Speaker 3>It's a good scene.

0:56:34.760 --> 0:56:36.960
<v Speaker 2>It's really good, and I think it's also really done

0:56:37.040 --> 0:56:40.439
<v Speaker 2>nicely that it follows a diabetic attack. So yeah, because

0:56:40.440 --> 0:56:42.920
<v Speaker 2>you would wonder, okay, what what brings Michael to confess?

0:56:43.000 --> 0:56:46.160
<v Speaker 2>But lu Priest I think recognizes a moment, an opportunity,

0:56:46.920 --> 0:56:49.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, a moment of weakness and vulnerability in Michael

0:56:49.760 --> 0:56:52.040
<v Speaker 2>that this this may be an opportunity for him to

0:56:52.160 --> 0:56:53.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, confess.

0:56:53.200 --> 0:56:57.040
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that sort of near to death experience and you know,

0:56:57.440 --> 0:56:59.840
<v Speaker 5>now whenever it's and also you know the fact that

0:56:59.920 --> 0:57:01.799
<v Speaker 5>he's been told to try he can trust this guy.

0:57:02.920 --> 0:57:03.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's.

0:57:04.880 --> 0:57:06.239
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's it's one of my I think it's one

0:57:06.239 --> 0:57:08.319
<v Speaker 5>of my favorite scenes in all three films. Like it's

0:57:08.800 --> 0:57:12.640
<v Speaker 5>I just think it's a great. Yeah, it's it's amazing.

0:57:12.960 --> 0:57:14.279
<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed the first half.

0:57:14.360 --> 0:57:16.000
<v Speaker 2>But when they do get to sicily and the more

0:57:16.280 --> 0:57:19.320
<v Speaker 2>when it becomes more reflective, and this is where the

0:57:19.360 --> 0:57:21.800
<v Speaker 2>coder element I think comes into it. I think Fancy

0:57:21.800 --> 0:57:23.880
<v Speaker 2>for a Couple is right in kind of naming it that.

0:57:24.520 --> 0:57:26.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure how much people think about it when

0:57:26.120 --> 0:57:28.080
<v Speaker 2>they kind of when they rewatch it, but I think

0:57:28.120 --> 0:57:30.600
<v Speaker 2>it's worth keeping an in mind that this is it's

0:57:30.720 --> 0:57:33.080
<v Speaker 2>almost like this is something extra. This is this is

0:57:33.160 --> 0:57:35.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, this is this is what happens. You know

0:57:36.040 --> 0:57:38.760
<v Speaker 2>the characters that you loved, that's not that you thought

0:57:38.840 --> 0:57:42.320
<v Speaker 2>you knew their story. That wasn't that there's more and

0:57:42.440 --> 0:57:45.080
<v Speaker 2>we need to discuss more. I want to go aback

0:57:45.120 --> 0:57:46.640
<v Speaker 2>the k as well, So we heard that, yeah, the

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<v Speaker 2>horror thing earlier. But Michael is in a reflective mood

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<v Speaker 2>and he does eventually apologize to Kay.

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<v Speaker 4>Forgive me.

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<v Speaker 2>For while.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything, Oh like, uh huh.

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<v Speaker 9>Ah, I I need something a little closer. You couldn't

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<v Speaker 9>understand back in those days, I loved my father.

0:58:23.520 --> 0:58:26.080
<v Speaker 4>I swore I would never be a man my kid,

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<v Speaker 4>but I loved him and he was in danger. What

0:58:29.280 --> 0:58:33.400
<v Speaker 4>could I do? And then later you were in danger,

0:58:34.480 --> 0:58:36.760
<v Speaker 4>our children were in danger. What can I do?

0:58:38.920 --> 0:58:39.720
<v Speaker 8>You are all that I.

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<v Speaker 9>Loved, valued most in the world, and I won't losing

0:58:47.440 --> 0:58:53.440
<v Speaker 9>I lost you anyway, You're gone and it was off

0:58:53.480 --> 0:59:03.400
<v Speaker 9>for nothing. So he has to understand that I had

0:59:03.440 --> 0:59:09.920
<v Speaker 9>all different destiny planned, all right, that stuff.

0:59:11.160 --> 0:59:13.560
<v Speaker 1>This is a nice reminded I had a whole new

0:59:13.600 --> 0:59:15.680
<v Speaker 1>destiny planned.

0:59:15.920 --> 0:59:17.560
<v Speaker 3>And him makes you saying it's all for nothing.

0:59:18.000 --> 0:59:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know almost.

0:59:19.920 --> 0:59:22.400
<v Speaker 3>The whole theme of the film is that it's all.

0:59:23.040 --> 0:59:24.800
<v Speaker 3>It can all be taken away, and it's all. This

0:59:25.080 --> 0:59:25.760
<v Speaker 3>was all pointless.

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<v Speaker 2>It was Because Kay arrives in Sicily and she rejects

0:59:29.200 --> 0:59:31.560
<v Speaker 2>she doesn't want the family tour that Michael kind of

0:59:31.640 --> 0:59:34.880
<v Speaker 2>obviously he wants to show her cicily and and how

0:59:35.120 --> 0:59:37.640
<v Speaker 2>the family are connected here and and and all of that,

0:59:37.760 --> 0:59:40.360
<v Speaker 2>and and and Kay rejects that. But this is, I

0:59:40.400 --> 0:59:45.600
<v Speaker 2>guess the moment where they there's some peace made and

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<v Speaker 2>then there's we others.

0:59:46.960 --> 0:59:47.520
<v Speaker 1>To be founded.

0:59:47.520 --> 0:59:50.280
<v Speaker 2>The weird, slightly weird moment where she jumps into a

0:59:50.360 --> 0:59:52.880
<v Speaker 2>car she expected to be taken somewhere and then it's

0:59:52.960 --> 0:59:56.720
<v Speaker 2>revealed it's Michael and he turns around like it's a

0:59:56.760 --> 0:59:57.360
<v Speaker 2>different movie.

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<v Speaker 3>All of a sudden, it's like surprisingly play for full moments.

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<v Speaker 1>You've never seen Mike coll as playful and as smiley

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<v Speaker 1>as that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was such a surprise that, yeah, that happened.

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<v Speaker 3>He did feel like it was from a from a

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<v Speaker 3>rom com.

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<v Speaker 1>And they go on a little too.

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<v Speaker 2>There's another little furfy that's thrown hi where we think

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<v Speaker 2>there's somebody with a gun coming up on a bike

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<v Speaker 2>and they give k flowers. But then there's I think

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<v Speaker 2>Michael actually asked for the forgiveness. I'm not sure before

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<v Speaker 2>or after that, but it's around that the Pope gets voted.

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<v Speaker 2>In interesting note, there's a we could have had a

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<v Speaker 2>pope Siri apparently only got the eleven votes. Pope there's

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<v Speaker 2>there's a Siri who got eleven votes when they were

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<v Speaker 2>going through the votes. It would have been nice, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's a lovely there's a great moment where the whole

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<v Speaker 2>Vincent and Michael thing where he kind of anoints him.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a good moment where they he's having his

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<v Speaker 2>dife better attacks and Vincent says, there's an assassin. Like

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<v Speaker 2>Michael's at a pretty weak moment. He's reflective, he's almost

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<v Speaker 2>he's confessed, and then they tell him there's an assassin,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a Sillian assassin coming your way, and that he

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<v Speaker 2>never fails. It's it's pretty it's I know, I thought

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<v Speaker 2>that scene was awesome. And then Michael kind of anoints Vincent.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is why I think Connie is a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a puppet master.

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<v Speaker 1>He does.

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<v Speaker 2>She doesn't want to let go of the power. She

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<v Speaker 2>can see Michael's getting a bit frail now, so she's

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<v Speaker 2>keen to get Vincent in. And when she comes in,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's interesting to note that she walks in

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<v Speaker 2>and Vincent turns and says it's done. So this is

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<v Speaker 2>obviously a plan that she had masterminded, I think, to

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<v Speaker 2>get to get Vincent she's the one who introduced Vincent

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<v Speaker 2>to Michael earlier, you know, knowing that I think that

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<v Speaker 2>Michael would have to couldn't reject Vincent his family, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So Yeah, I think Connie's role in this is is

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<v Speaker 2>really interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>It's yeah, it is. It's actually I wanted a bit

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<v Speaker 3>more of it, to be honest, I did.

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<v Speaker 5>I just think he's so good. But it's also one

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<v Speaker 5>of the things that confused me. Again, he only had

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<v Speaker 5>six weeks to write it, so you can't blame him.

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<v Speaker 5>But and it's still amazing, but the fact that you

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<v Speaker 5>know it was Vincent, and that it was this guy

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<v Speaker 5>who's every bit off, and then they all the way

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<v Speaker 5>through the film, this sort of feels like there's this

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<v Speaker 5>growing rivalry and then guys gone out of the picture.

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<v Speaker 3>It gets shot.

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<v Speaker 2>What's good about being in Sicily as well is that

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<v Speaker 2>it does feel like a dangerous place. Even the puppet

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<v Speaker 2>show that they went on was like quite violent, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's kids watching it and there's puppets stabbing.

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<v Speaker 5>And that was what was so good about it, I suppose,

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<v Speaker 5>is it was this beautiful, picturesque, peaceful looking place and

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<v Speaker 5>he realized, man, this these these to live, this life.

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<v Speaker 5>You're just in constant fear of your life. Everything's a

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<v Speaker 5>you know, every crowds of potential a murderer or every

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<v Speaker 5>every open window becomes a threat.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, it's a probable way to live awful.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I guess being really really rich helps, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's still.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think I prefer like a more medium level income,

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<v Speaker 5>well with no assassination.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, where you can, where you can, you know, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>date your cousin and and not feel like shame's from

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<v Speaker 2>your uncle the dreamer.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a nice there's a nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Touch when they're kissing, you know, Vincent's hand, when he's

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<v Speaker 2>basically loved that, you know, he becomes Vincent coll And

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<v Speaker 2>and Kay, So Connie takes Michael out and we see

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<v Speaker 2>him and the door shuts now on Michael as your

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<v Speaker 2>Godfather is, which is just a nice tip of the

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<v Speaker 2>hat to the famous ending of The Godfather. Did it

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<v Speaker 2>feel like to you that this is sixteen years after

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<v Speaker 2>The Godfather Part two? Did it feel that Michael Colline

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<v Speaker 2>was sixteen years older? It felt to me like he was.

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<v Speaker 2>It felt more like he might have been like thirty

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<v Speaker 2>years older.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I thought it was a lot older.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was quite late, Yeah, which it doesn't necessarily.

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<v Speaker 2>That was more an afterthought because they don't really say

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<v Speaker 2>when the film is set, so it could have been

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<v Speaker 2>it could have been thirty years in the field.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess it wasn't something I really thought about. I

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<v Speaker 3>just thought he's older.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's been through some shit.

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<v Speaker 3>The reason if his kids are grown up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The only reason I thought about it is because I

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<v Speaker 2>thought al Pacino's performance got more Michael a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>as it went on. I thought, I thought it felt

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<v Speaker 2>like going from watching like young al Pacino in the

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<v Speaker 2>original two films to watching center of a Woman al Pacino.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, just a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think once I get to Sicily, I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I really I really love that. Outside

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<v Speaker 2>of that with rom Com moment.

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<v Speaker 3>I also wonder if.

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<v Speaker 5>You probably could have I wonder if you'd gotten rid

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<v Speaker 5>of the Suns storyline altogether, whether that would have made

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<v Speaker 5>a difference, either because he had a son who didn't

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<v Speaker 5>want to take over the business, and he didn't want

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<v Speaker 5>the son to take over the business, So that means

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<v Speaker 5>in the plot you probably could have got rid of

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<v Speaker 5>the Sun, just had the sister, so then he doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>have anyth then he has to pick a new one,

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<v Speaker 5>and that's Vincent, because he doesn't want his daughter to

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<v Speaker 5>take over the business either. I wonder if the son

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<v Speaker 5>even needed to be there in story wise, even though

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<v Speaker 5>it made for a nice moment in the opera and

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<v Speaker 5>things like that. But you could have given that, you

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<v Speaker 5>could have I feel like you could have made the

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<v Speaker 5>sister and the brother one character. Yeah, and it wouldn't

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<v Speaker 5>have lost anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not you're saying, I think it works.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, maybe that's becoming Maybe that's becoming too efficient and

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<v Speaker 5>losing just what are some nice moments.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's something about.

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<v Speaker 10>That.

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony feels even more removed from the family business than

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<v Speaker 2>Mary does.

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<v Speaker 1>In a way. Mary's still a rat, She's not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>trying to doesn't seem that harness any ambition to be

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<v Speaker 1>part out of that world.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess my my thinking is that perhaps that last

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<v Speaker 3>scene with him by himself would have been more powerful

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<v Speaker 3>if he'd lost his only Yeah, because he's still got

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<v Speaker 3>one kids, wife, wasn't he there and that last thing, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that he's lost to lose the only one

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<v Speaker 3>he loves instead of half so at the end is yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it was kind of I don't know. I just thought

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<v Speaker 3>maybe maybe that would have been more powerful. Again, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean I don't want to back out.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, but Mary Mary shot accidentally, isn't she

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<v Speaker 1>she is?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, going for her.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it would have.

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<v Speaker 2>Been interesting if she was shot deliberately, and then they

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<v Speaker 2>also took out Anthony as like this is that they

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<v Speaker 2>were aware of the hell they were actually putting Michael

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<v Speaker 2>coy kids.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good point.

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<v Speaker 1>Just kill both, kill both. Yeah, and then you're right, Michael,

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<v Speaker 1>that does make that last scene or the more powerful.

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<v Speaker 5>Because there's a line in here is then where he

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<v Speaker 5>says they will go for the ones you'd love, or

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<v Speaker 5>they'll come for the ones you something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't remember. Yeah, but maybe if they killed both.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, powerful people should just just don't go

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<v Speaker 2>to the opera. That's why I don't go to the opera.

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<v Speaker 5>Look, go but in like a little bit of bulletproof

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<v Speaker 5>booth or something. Yeah, it's frisky.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you was it a surprise? When did you?

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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned earlier that you thought, Okay, they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>take out Michael, which I think that's what we are

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's yeah, I thought that absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's called a death of Michael.

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<v Speaker 3>And you thought he's going to do on the stairs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I thought he's going to die in the opera during

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<v Speaker 3>a high note. Then he was going to die on

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<v Speaker 3>the stairs. I just yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So when when it was revealed that and I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>it's really well planned, I think, and I think Sophie

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<v Speaker 2>A Copper does a really good job of, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>taking that shot and you know Dad, I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>heard somebody kind of bagging her performance in that scene.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, No, I've seen overly dramatic deaths and sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>it is you're in shock. And I think her last

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<v Speaker 2>words been Dad was great. Considering like Michael, this is

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<v Speaker 2>like it's supposed to be the happiest night almost outside

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<v Speaker 2>of more so than any moment we've seen the Godfather movies,

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<v Speaker 2>including weddings and all that. This felt like this was

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be the happiest moment for the Collie owned family,

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<v Speaker 2>like yeah, something that wasn't involving crime.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a celebration, a celebration of how proud we

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<v Speaker 1>have a son.

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<v Speaker 2>Michael and Kay have made some peace, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>the families together and the past comes back to haunt them.

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<v Speaker 3>It was Yeah, it was beautiful. I thought that seemed

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<v Speaker 3>was great, really heart wrenching, but it was.

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<v Speaker 5>It was brilliant. It's enjoying his moment of happiness. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>assuming it became an inspiration for Angel and Buffy and

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<v Speaker 5>how when he has a moment of happiness he turns evil.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I haven't seen Buffy, but I can only

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<v Speaker 2>imagine while the influence of these movies on and on

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<v Speaker 2>and on. Of course, Luke, I mean Rose Haven took

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of it's cues from The Godfather.

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<v Speaker 1>It was that the original too.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I do wonder how much if I'd watched these

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<v Speaker 5>films before writing Rose Heaven, how much I would have

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<v Speaker 5>put into us, because I always imagine Chris mcquader is

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<v Speaker 5>a Godfather like figure.

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<v Speaker 3>Like a head of the family.

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<v Speaker 1>She would be amazing, So I probably.

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<v Speaker 3>Would have given her. I probably would have put a

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<v Speaker 3>few more nods in there than I did.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course, yeah, another Godfather montage done brilliantly. I

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<v Speaker 2>think in the first one it was the baptism and

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<v Speaker 2>as others get wax, this idea that you could be

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<v Speaker 2>in the house of God whilst you know, ordering these

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<v Speaker 2>hits to be taking place was the work of genius.

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<v Speaker 1>In the original film, It's never too far away, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is a similar thing.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a certain religious overtone about the opera and then

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<v Speaker 2>what they're what they're doing there, and the iconography is

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<v Speaker 2>is there for everyone to see, and it's it's just

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<v Speaker 2>great that those those murders, they're good fun.

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<v Speaker 3>The classes in the neck. Yeah, that felt that felt

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<v Speaker 3>like it was out of a like a B grade horror.

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<v Speaker 3>It was. It was so so much blood and yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it was the only it was the only time.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like, come on, did you.

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<v Speaker 2>When he was going to him, when he was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I need to whisper this injurious we knew something.

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<v Speaker 1>We know why.

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<v Speaker 5>And then when his body goes, oh he's clean. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>sure this will be fine. Just yeah, like I'd be like, well,

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<v Speaker 5>that's not happening.

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<v Speaker 3>You can tell me.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, it just didn't make any This is not a

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<v Speaker 1>tradition that I'm aware of.

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<v Speaker 3>It was very loosely. I mean, maybe you could have

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<v Speaker 3>picked up a litter opener off his desk and use

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<v Speaker 3>that to stab him. But the fact that he goes,

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta whispering. You're like, that's fine, come on, real class,

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<v Speaker 3>there's no problem.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to kill him with a blunt and a plastic.

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<v Speaker 5>That whole scene, Yeah, it was like if you just

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<v Speaker 5>took that scene out and didn't know what it was

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<v Speaker 5>from and guess what movie this is from, you would

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<v Speaker 5>I think this is from one of the greatest trileges

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<v Speaker 5>of all time.

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<v Speaker 2>So some fun facts before we wind up. It's been

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of fun. We have spoken about Severe Copple.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad that you're on the same page as I am.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, you come to it a bit fresher, not

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<v Speaker 2>having seen it and not knowing that the history behind it.

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<v Speaker 2>With all that said, she did have to read dub

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<v Speaker 2>twenty percent of her original dialogue in ADR. Apparently she

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't pronounce collion. She was mispronouncing collione.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't. I'm not sure why that wasn't picked up

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<v Speaker 1>on the day.

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<v Speaker 3>That's yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 5>Like that, Benedict, come aback penguins, penguin Gate, Well, tell

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<v Speaker 5>me about that.

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<v Speaker 3>He can't say there was a documentary. He did, he

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<v Speaker 3>did commentary for documentary. He couldn't say penguins.

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<v Speaker 10>It wasn't a documentary about said animal. It was a

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<v Speaker 10>documentary about I think about the South Pacific in general.

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<v Speaker 10>I know, I'm completely terrified.

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<v Speaker 4>Of the words.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't go near.

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<v Speaker 10>And the last thing you might expect to see here.

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<v Speaker 4>Is penguins.

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<v Speaker 10>These are Fjordland crested pengwins, named after this corner of

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<v Speaker 10>South New Zealand. So why are these woodlands so attractive

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<v Speaker 10>to pengwings? A fresh water stream through the forest makes

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<v Speaker 10>a handy highway for a parent pengwing heading home from

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<v Speaker 10>the fishing pot.

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<v Speaker 1>That is, I had no idea that was the thing. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>there you go, seve A Coppler, You're not alone.

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<v Speaker 5>I had to dub over about I reckon maybe thirty

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<v Speaker 5>five percent of my first season of Rose Heaven because

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<v Speaker 5>I was mumbling, I wasn't talking from I end up

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<v Speaker 5>going to.

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<v Speaker 3>A speech therapist.

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<v Speaker 5>I've always been a mumbler and stumbled on words and

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<v Speaker 5>things like that, but that was the first time I

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<v Speaker 5>saw an actual speech therapist too, because I was just

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<v Speaker 5>having to do so much redubbing in idea and still

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<v Speaker 5>wasn't sounding as clear as I could And I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>certainly not prefering now when he stretched the imagination.

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<v Speaker 3>But I was terrible on season one and some of

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<v Speaker 3>its really hard to hear her.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody go back in wa season one of Rose. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>let us know your tweet, Sophi a Coppler like no,

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<v Speaker 2>so a couple of fun facts. Frank Sinaci, you may

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<v Speaker 2>be aware, wasn't was really against The Godfather originally being

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<v Speaker 2>made because he thought Johnny Fontaine was based on him,

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<v Speaker 2>which arguably it was. But after the success of the

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<v Speaker 2>first two films, he was actually keen to play Don Ottobello,

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<v Speaker 2>who's like the older Don who leaves at the before

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<v Speaker 2>everything gets bassed up and joins him in sicily, but

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<v Speaker 2>then he said no because the money wasn't enough again

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<v Speaker 2>money issues, so he went to Elo Wallack, who played Dontabello.

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<v Speaker 2>Ironically because Sinacha got his role in From Here to Eternity,

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<v Speaker 2>which is I think made in like fifty six or

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<v Speaker 2>fifty eight, when Eli Wallack backed out due to pay.

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<v Speaker 2>So swings in a roundabouts right, Schaefer, this is quite sad.

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<v Speaker 2>Was an actress Sophia Coupler coming into the Last Monte

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<v Speaker 2>for when not a writer Rebecca Schaeffer was due to

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<v Speaker 2>be given the scripts and on the day is due

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<v Speaker 2>to receive that.

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<v Speaker 1>Script, she was murdered.

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<v Speaker 4>My god.

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<v Speaker 2>So it kind of feels like when that happened, you

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<v Speaker 2>kind of go, maybe this role is cursed and we

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<v Speaker 2>should just right up to the Bridget Fonder end of

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<v Speaker 2>the you know, make her one of the characters or something.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know it he's just said about Superman too.

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't they that that role was christed for a while

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<v Speaker 3>or the actor that plays it all?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, like it was either injury or career ending in

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<v Speaker 5>some way, like they'd say the actor didn't. I think

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<v Speaker 5>it got proved wrong then, because you know, Tom Walker

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<v Speaker 5>ended up going on to play quite a bit in it.

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<v Speaker 5>Lucifer I think maybe, and then obviously Henry Cavill's killing it.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I think it was. I think it was

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<v Speaker 3>because it was that run.

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<v Speaker 1>Of Christopher Reeves in this and then.

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<v Speaker 3>One in Lewis and Clark Lewis and Clark D. Kaine

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<v Speaker 3>and then Brandon Ruth and none of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Really went on to write make more things.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, obviously Christopher Reeves was brilliant but tragically injured

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<v Speaker 5>but probably would had a massive career.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, and the final and I'm doing a bit

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<v Speaker 2>more fun final. Sometimes not all the fun facts are fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes it's a bit misleading, but the.

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<v Speaker 3>First you call them all fun facts, including that murder one.

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<v Speaker 1>One wasn't a fun fact. Sometimes you know you need to.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you change the title then to facts facts? Some

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<v Speaker 3>fun facts and some other.

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<v Speaker 2>Facts should be a warning when when there's incoming not fun.

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<v Speaker 2>The final fun fact and this is is fun. The

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<v Speaker 2>Godfather films are the first of only two trilogies to

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<v Speaker 2>have all three films nominated for Best Picture? Can you

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<v Speaker 2>name the other trilogy?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have the trilogy for Best Picture?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it star Wars?

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<v Speaker 2>Not Star Wars more recent, more recent, more recent than

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<v Speaker 2>Star Wars and the original trilogy at list?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, very big, very big, you kick yourself. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure Lord of the Rings, Lord of the Rings is correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Look you get a you ain't seen nothing yet hat

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<v Speaker 1>which we haven't manufactured yet or made. But if we

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<v Speaker 1>ever do, first one's coming away.

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<v Speaker 3>My head's ready, is ready, and you'll be son smart.

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<v Speaker 3>Does the podcast have any merch? Does it not yet?

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<v Speaker 1>Not yet?

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<v Speaker 2>We'll have to look into if you want requesting merch.

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<v Speaker 2>Yasney Podcasts at gmail dot com, where you can contact

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<v Speaker 2>this for anything.

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<v Speaker 1>We love to hear from you, Luke McGregor.

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<v Speaker 2>This podcast comes with homework, and you have not only

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<v Speaker 2>is your third return which makes us our favorite guests,

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<v Speaker 2>but three films with hefty running times. You've probably invested

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<v Speaker 2>ten hours of viewing for this podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>And lowest rating episode each time, which is unfortunate.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't going to bring that up. I wasn't going

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<v Speaker 2>to bring that up. Did Derek tell you that? He

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't supposed to tell you.

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<v Speaker 3>That, But that was as soon as I came in,

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<v Speaker 3>he said, mate, what are you doing here?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you live?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Give us something?

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<v Speaker 5>Gregor, Oh, no, happy to. I'm really glad I got

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<v Speaker 5>to say him actually, because it was it was like

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<v Speaker 5>when I first watched there was a period where I

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<v Speaker 5>just went back and went, Okay, I'm just going to

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<v Speaker 5>watch some old films. So I went and watched Rambow,

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<v Speaker 5>and then I watched Rocky and all these films I

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<v Speaker 5>had never seen before.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that Rambo was your first one. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to go.

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<v Speaker 5>First person was Rocky actually right then Rambo. Then I

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<v Speaker 5>went a bit of a Silvesters to their own binge.

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<v Speaker 5>But then Godfather was always going to be there. There's

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<v Speaker 5>a bunch of like now I'm going to go back

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<v Speaker 5>and watch Scarface I think, and some other ones like

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<v Speaker 5>that that I've never seen.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, mate, it's an open door policy for your good self.

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<v Speaker 3>And what was one you said that earlier in the

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<v Speaker 3>piece that you loved.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh the Untouchables.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, watch the Untouchable and watch Jean Connery, Kevin Costner.

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<v Speaker 2>That's I mean, that's a Robert that's a good cast.

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<v Speaker 2>Written by David Mammontt, directed by Brian Depalmer.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right, okay, that's on the list now.

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<v Speaker 1>Suits by Hugo Boss.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's Hugo Boss for such you it might

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<v Speaker 2>be here any whatever, mate, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>You are a great mate and a legend and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see you soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks havingbody looking forward to that merch droph.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that was fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Massive thanks and props to Luke McGregor for sitting down

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<v Speaker 2>and watching almost ten hours of Godfather films. Really glad

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<v Speaker 2>he enjoyed it. Really relieved and glad that he enjoyed

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<v Speaker 2>Godfather Pat three. If you haven't seen it, well you've

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<v Speaker 2>had a lot of spoilers, but check it out. I

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<v Speaker 2>watched it when I was in my teenage years and

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<v Speaker 2>probably had already heard that it wasn't as good as

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<v Speaker 2>the first too, and took.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of that baggage in with me, but I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was great.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we've got a few more weeks left of season

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<v Speaker 2>four off you ain't seen nothing yet. Some big movies

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<v Speaker 2>and guests coming up. If you want to get on

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy, isn't it Derek Derek Mayer some Gasway Studios

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<v Speaker 10>Hey, Hey, go yeah, get on that speak pipe, drop

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<v Speaker 2>the U ain't see nothing yet family. Leave any questions

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<v Speaker 2>you have, any requests for other movies or guests.

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<v Speaker 1>We would love to hear from you. I really enjoy.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to organize a live show soon, our second

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<v Speaker 2>live show. Looking forward to that. I'll announce when all

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<v Speaker 2>that's confirmed. But coming up if some of the movies

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<v Speaker 2>we got coming up include if you want to get

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<v Speaker 2>ahead in your viewings, we have requested that we kind

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<v Speaker 2>of put out some of the movies so they're not

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<v Speaker 2>as rushed in trying to watch it. To listen to

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<v Speaker 2>the episode, we're going to be looking at Lost in

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<v Speaker 2>Translations soon, We're going to be looking at Puns Druke

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<v Speaker 2>Love soon, one of my absolute favorites. And next week

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<v Speaker 2>on the show Very Funny Man and comedian Ben Russell

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<v Speaker 2>is hosting a new show, a pilot of a show

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<v Speaker 2>that will be on Tenplay. He co hosted with Jennyfricka.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called Time to Die. It's a fantastic concept. I've

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<v Speaker 2>actually seen the episode they made. It's two comedians, in

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<v Speaker 2>this case Tom Cashman and Sonya Diorio, and they basically

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<v Speaker 2>have to write each other the worst set they can

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<v Speaker 2>possibly come up with. Then they have to go out

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<v Speaker 2>and perform in front of a real life comedy club

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<v Speaker 2>those routines that are deliberately written badly. It's called Time

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<v Speaker 2>to Die. It'll be on Tenplay. I think I'm abound

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<v Speaker 2>about the twenty seventh of June. We'll have more details

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<v Speaker 2>next week. But Ben Russell, who Very Funny Man, did

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<v Speaker 2>some Hollywood tours recently the Melbanney International Comedy Festival and

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<v Speaker 2>around the country that we're revolutionary as far as comedy

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<v Speaker 2>is presented. So very funny man, great guy, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be discussing the nineteen eighty two Martin Scorsese classic,

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<v Speaker 2>which maybe gets left behind when we talk about Scorsese films,

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<v Speaker 2>we often focus on Taxi Driver or The Departed, but

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna be talking about the King of Comedy.

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<v Speaker 1>If you haven't seen it, check it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Robert de Niro, Jerry Lewis, Sandra Bernard's in it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>an incredible film. If you saw Joker recently with work

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<v Speaker 2>in Phoenix, this is a big touchstone as far as

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<v Speaker 2>an influence that isn't Taxi Driver. So the King of

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<v Speaker 2>Comedy next week with Ben Russell. Can't wait to get

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<v Speaker 2>stuck into it. Until then, take care by

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<v Speaker 10>For now, and so we leave old Pete see Van

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<v Speaker 10>sal and to our friends of the radio audience, we've

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<v Speaker 10>been a pleasant good name.