WEBVTT - Big Brother hang ups: Marley Biyendolo vs Tilly Whitfield 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:05.920 You are now entering the court of Judge Gina Leano. 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:19.159 Even the closest of friendships are not immune to a 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:23.160 lost connection through distance. When there's more than a disconnected 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:27.400 at stake. You come to my courtroom. I am Judge Gina, 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:31.280 and my decision is final. You better be ready to 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:32.120 hear my ruling. 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:36.559 A friend is someone you can call upon in the 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:39.559 good times and bad. But when is it time to 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:43.199 hang up on a friendship? Marley has brought Tilly to 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:47.520 Judge Gina's courtroom for final say over her phone etiquette. 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:50.920 He is seeking a public apology from Tilly and one 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:54.640 thousand dollars to compensate for the time Tilly has taken 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:55.200 from him. 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:57.960 My name is Marley Bandello and you would know me 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:00.560 best from winning Big Brother Australia twenty twenty one. 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:03.400 My name is Tilli Whitfeld. I'm twenty three years old. 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:05.919 You may know me from the twenty twenty one season 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:09.160 of Big Brother, or from social media, or from tattooing 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:11.120 freckles on my face and copying a TikTok. 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:13.360 I have come to Judge Gina today because I have 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:16.680 had such an issue with my relationship with Tilly around 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:20.640 her terrible, awful, disrespectful phone etiquette. 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:24.800 Marley Biandolo has summoned me here because he has issues 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:28.480 with my phone etiquette and he's pathetic and thinks that 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:32.400 hanging up without saying goodbye is an issue for some reason. 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:35.040 I want to get to the bottom of this phone 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:38.679 etiqutte situation. I need a formal apology from Tilly, admitting 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:42.120 to all of her wrongs, all of her disrespect and rudeness. 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:45.120 I also want to be compensated a thousand dollars for 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:47.400 all of the time she has taken away from my 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:48.600 life that I can't get back. 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:52.080 I want Judge Gina to agree with me, because this 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:56.160 is a completely pathetic reason to bring someone to court 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:57.760 and it's a complete waste of my time. 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:09.919 Court is now in session. Please rise the judge Gina. 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:15.280 Okay, So, Chilly and Marley. 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:17.680 Judge Gina, Marley, you've got. 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:19.760 A claim against your friend Tilly. Is that right? 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:23.440 I absolutely do, Gina, Judge Gena or Gina. 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:27.400 Judge Gina ginak So, Tilly, do you know about this 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:29.880 claim or is this catching you unaware? 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:32.240 I do know about this claim. Yes, this has been 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:32.920 going on a while. 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:37.280 Okay, So Marley, tell me what your case is about. 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:42.960 Okay, So my case, Judge Gina, is about Tilly's phone etiquette, 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:46.919 which is absolutely awful. Phone etiquette is something I think 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:51.600 it should be a staple inhumanity in our lives. Phone etiquette, 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:54.000 to me is up there with manners, pleases and thank you, 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:58.839 and Tilly absolutely has zero phone etiquette when it comes 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:00.920 to text, when it comes to phone calls, when it 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:02.919 comes to saying goodbye on a phone call? 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:05.919 Sorry, but how has this got anything to do with manners? 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:11.760 If you respond yet, I just have to wait a second, Okay, 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:13.480 So I'm just going to ask you just a couple 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:16.640 of questions before we go on with that. How do 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:18.680 you two know each other? And how often are you 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:19.600 talking on the phone? 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:22.239 Tilly and I met on Big Brother three years ago 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:24.080 and we've been talking ever since. So I have been 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:29.320 putting up with three years of absolutely awful, awful and rude, 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:31.280 despicable phone etiquet from Telly. 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:32.840 Well you don't have to, you know that. 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:35.640 Well, that's why i'me I've come here today because I'm 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:37.440 actually I'm trying to clear this up. And if we 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:39.320 don't get it cleared up today and I don't get 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:42.360 some sort of apology or some sort of I guess 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:45.880 reimbursement of money, then our friendship might be going out 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:46.200 the door. 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:48.800 All right, Well that sounds a bit harsh. But so 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:52.040 you met on Big Brother, but you're in Melbourne and 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:54.560 Tilly is in Sydney, so tell me about that. 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:58.240 So I'm over here in Melbourne and Tilly's over there 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:01.000 in Sydney. But we have created a very close friendship. 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:04.360 So we do stay in communication almost every day. 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:06.000 Are you romantically involved? 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:10.000 Absolutely not. This thing from did a. 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:14.960 Shocking look on everyone's face. Okay, So you met on 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:17.200 Big Brother and you actually one Big Brother? Is that right? 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:18.120 I did? I did? 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:20.800 Ye? Wow? Okay? And where were you in the in 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:23.919 the firing line, Tilly? Were you evicted or what happened? 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:25.679 Yeah? I was evicted twice. 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:27.880 How far in were you evicted? 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:31.440 Maybe four days five days out? 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:35.479 Okay? So you forged a real friendship during the recording 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:37.320 of Big Brother. How many weeks did that go for? 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:39.520 So it went for two and a half months actually, 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:42.120 And Chilly and I from the start we're best friends 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:43.800 in the house and best friends up until the end, 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:45.159 and obviously coming out and you've. 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:47.719 Remained best friend. Yes, that's right, okay, and you stayed 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:48.200 in touch. 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:51.200 We did straight away, like you right away, it didn't stop. 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:53.640 How long ago we're talking about twenty twenty one, so 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:54.279 it's been. 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.680 Two years almost three actually. 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:58.680 Almost three es of phone calls that you two have. 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:01.119 Do you catch up very often or is it always 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:02.080 just over the phone? 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:04.360 Well, for the most part it is because she being 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:07.400 in Sydney and me and Melbourne. Yeah, it's usually over 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:07.799 the phone. 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:10.120 So how many times a day would you speak on 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:13.760 the phone? Once a day, every second day, once a week. 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:16.360 What do you think till I'm going to go at 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:18.839 least every second day, probably second a. 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:19.400 Couple of days. 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:21.840 For a long time it was every single. 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:24.160 How long do the phone calls go for? What are 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:26.600 you ringing each other for? Do you talk about your 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:29.360 love life? Do you talk about what you ate for dinner? 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:34.640 Sometimes sometimes there isn't an agenda, which is also a 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:37.640 part of this piece, Judge Gina. Sometimes Tilly will call 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:40.760 me with absolute nonsense, soon to just hang up the 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:44.520 phone and not really tell me about what the reason 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:45.599 was for calling me. 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:47.760 Okay, what do you say, Tilly? Do you agree with 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:50.960 that that you became really good friends filming Big Brother, 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:52.880 and you've stayed in contact. 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:56.840 Yeah, yes, I do agree. I don't think that I 0:05:56.920 --> 0:06:00.320 call to talk nonsense. Sometimes I call and I forget 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:01.080 why I called. 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:04.560 Okay, so that could be a nonsensical phone call. You 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:08.200 could have mentioned you, But so what happened? Is that 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:09.919 a bit like when you open the fridge and you 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:11.960 can't remember what exactly exactly? 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:14.560 Yes, like I crashed my car and then I forget 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:16.720 why I called, or like something. 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:18.760 Happened, And that's serious that Actually this is what this 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:19.560 actually happened. 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:21.360 You crashed your car and you called and you couldn't 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:22.360 remember why you called. 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:25.120 Well, this morning I called him and then a lady 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:28.960 beaped me and told me to stop doing my makeup 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:32.480 at the traffic lights. So of course the call was interrupted. 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:35.359 Oh okay, and then what so then you were confused 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:38.800 about why you're called? Is that what you're saying? All right, Well, 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:40.279 you know you're not meant to be doing your makeup 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:41.159 at the traffic I. 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:44.120 Didn't know that was a thing till today. 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:48.039 Well, it's actually illegally you're allowed to do that. 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:49.240 Yeah, I won't do that again. 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:51.120 Do you agree that your phone etiquette is a little 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:52.159 bit off kilter. 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:55.279 Look, I don't really have an issue with it, no, 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:56.800 because well you died. 0:06:56.680 --> 0:06:58.600 Because you're not on the receiving end of it, and 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:01.520 that's your your way communicating. But I'm going to ask 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:03.800 Maley give me an example, So. 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:06.360 Got plenty, Okay, just start with one. All right, let's 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:08.440 let me hit you with one, Judge Gina. She calls 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:11.520 me about Obviously the call is something centered around her, 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:14.040 which I have no problem around. I absolutely love listening 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:16.880 to two funny stories about Tilly. But yeah, let's just 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:19.560 say she calls me, she starts talking nonsense about some 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:22.120 topic that's happened to her today, and we get to 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:24.120 the end of the call, Judge Gina. And at the 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:27.480 end of the call, there's usually a gradual process where 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:29.280 you know, you start to fade out and you're about 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:31.600 to say goodbye, all right, lovely talking to you, thank 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:33.520 you for thank you for taking this phone call and 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:38.000 listening to me. You know, there is absolutely none of that. No, no, no, 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:40.920 I do do that. Yes, I definitely do that. But Tilly, 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:43.520 what Tilly likes to do is Tilly likes to just 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:46.720 say all right bye or just all right, bye, oh bye, 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:50.200 gotta go or whatever, just quickly as like so abrupt 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:52.040 and just hangs the phone up and I don't even 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:54.200 have a I can't even say all right, goodbye, have 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:54.720 a good day. 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:56.960 But maybe that's because you've done the wrap up and 0:07:57.000 --> 0:07:58.080 she thinks, well it's over. 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:01.760 Sorry. So no, no, no, not in this not in this circumstance. 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:04.760 I'm saying you don't get a chance to do the wrap. 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:07.120 Right, and she'll just hang up and go, Okay, what's 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:08.040 that about, Tillie. 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:12.000 Well, I actually disagree because I think, like, once the 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:15.840 majority of the conversation is over, why would you have 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:18.760 the awkward bit at the end, like I don't really 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:22.040 good bit, just like oh yeah, well, I hope you 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:24.880 have a good day. It was nice talking, ill I 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:25.120 do like. 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:27.280 To sit and grow up around Italian families, because we 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:29.760 say goodbye in the kitchen, the hallway, the front door 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:33.480 out and the driveway. We say goodbye about seven thousand times. 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:35.679 You're not into the no you hang up first, and 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:37.760 no I'll hang up first. No, you hang up first, 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:39.240 I'll hang up for you. Don't do that. 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:41.120 No, I don't even say bye to my mom. 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:44.000 Okay, so what's the trigger in your mind that the 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:46.720 phone calls over. You feel sensing the wrap. 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:48.839 Up, like if I if I've gotten what I needed 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:51.800 out of the call, I'm gonna be the driver. 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:53.760 You're the driver in the call. You're there for the 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:55.120 purpose once it's happened. 0:08:55.320 --> 0:09:00.800 Yes, correct, Phone calls have a reason. Once the initial 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:03.920 conversation is over, there's no need to continue them the 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:05.040 majority of the time. 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:08.439 Do you communicate the same? Would you say you communicate 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:10.720 the same with Marley as you do everybody else. 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:13.120 Yeap, Marley's the only one that's had an issue with it. 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:16.320 In fact, I literally called my boss yesterday to say 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:18.360 I'm going to the hospital. I'm not coming to work. 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:22.440 And I didn't say goodbye. Why not because it was 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:24.360 obvious I was going to the hospital and I'm not 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:25.120 coming to work. 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:26.400 Did he say goodbye? 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:28.960 Well, I'm not sure because it was already hung up. 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:31.720 Oh so you just said I'm going to the hospital. Clunk, 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:34.520 I said Hi, I was crying. I said, Hi, I 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:36.320 can't come to work the Salva. I've got to go 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:38.559 to the hospital. She said why. I said, rash is 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:42.640 are bad. Then a crowd a bit and you hung up? 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:47.439 Yes, ok, okay, because I had to go. The conversation 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:48.000 was done. 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:50.680 But why is by not part of your agenda? Like 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:53.520 why are you not saying bye? That is just like 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:54.480 common courtesy. 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:57.560 Well, I've just never really had to say goodbye. Nobody's 0:09:57.559 --> 0:09:59.440 ever had an issue with it or called. 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:04.360 It up till right. Okay, So when when someone calls you, 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:06.839 let's let's go from the start of the call. What's 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:11.800 your etiquette when it comes to answering the call? Answer call? 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:15.520 So spring ring? Okay, ready answer? What are you going to? 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:18.080 Just depend? 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:19.600 What are you saying? 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:20.280 Maybe? 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:23.040 What? What? What? 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:26.160 Who says what? That's just sounds like you're pissed off? 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:29.080 And are you pissed off? Are you annoyed? No? 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:32.720 I just I'm just wondering. What, Like, I just get 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:36.560 to the point what you've called me? What's Yeah? Okay? 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:39.560 So if you called someone and they said what to you? 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:40.400 What would you think? 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:42.600 I would just tell them straight away? 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:45.400 Okay, So you would just think they're cutting to the chase. 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:47.680 I would appreciate it, Yeah, I would you. 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:51.080 Okay. So do you realize though, that when you do 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:54.400 that that it could actually make it sound like you're 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:58.920 being terse or abrupt or impatient or don't have tolerance 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:00.360 for this person by saying what. 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:06.000 I think everything is situational. Like if the President called me, 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:09.200 I would say, hi, mister President, how are you okay? 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:11.680 But that's actually a little bit worse what you're saying now, 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:13.600 because that just means that the people you say what 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:16.440 to you don't have respect for. Because if you're saying 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:19.520 you've got a different criteria depending on who it is, 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:21.840 then that tells me that you know how to do 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:25.319 it properly and you're choosing not to And it's selective. 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:28.880 So when Marley calls, do you say what to him? 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:31.080 Is that that way you answer the call for him? 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:32.280 Usually yes? 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:33.920 Sometimes yes, okay? 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:36.520 And why just because. 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:40.600 If it's someone you know, it's they're calling for something? Everyone, 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.920 this is the rule. Someone only calls you normally when 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:47.400 they want something. That's the truth. Sometimes when I call someone, 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:49.880 I'm like, sorry for calling? Is this actually a good time? 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:53.400 Because nobody actually wants your phone call normally? 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:54.360 Right? 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:56.920 Just you know, get to the point. 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:58.480 Who's who are you talking about? Nobody? 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:02.680 Well, like my grandma when I call her, she says oh, 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:05.280 she doesn't say hi, she says are you driving? And 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:07.920 I say yes, I'm driving. She says, is that why 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:09.120 you called? Because you're bored? 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:12.719 And I say yes, oh right, so there's got to 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:13.760 be a reason. 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:20.160 Exactly exactly, you. I have plenty of favorites in my phone. 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:20.880 I don't just. 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:24.760 Pick up someone just to see how they are. 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:27.800 Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. But like you would just say, 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:29.880 like when you answer the phone, you'll just say how 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:32.240 are you? Like you don't have to be like hi, 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:36.600 oh not god, why how are you? Because the ringing 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:38.720 part is the same high? 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:42.199 The ringing part is the high. Yes, so why is 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:45.400 the ringing part the high? Because you've already got my attention? 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:48.479 Yeah, you're established establishing communication. 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:51.880 When you call someone in Italy, that's a pronto, which 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:55.440 is ready the literal translation is ready. 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:55.960 Yeah. 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:56.520 Perfect. 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:59.199 Well, look, I mean the thing is that Marley doesn't 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:02.360 like it. He's come here and he's got an issue 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:05.920 with the way that you're communicating with him. He says 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:09.199 that you should have a little bit more phone etiquette. 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:12.040 And in actual fact, if one of my friends called 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:15.640 me and said what I would say, what's the matter? 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:18.440 I would automatically think they were not in a good space. 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:21.440 And if they didn't say goodbye. I would assume they're 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:23.880 annoyed or in a hurry, and I would call them 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:26.200 back to see if they're okay. That would tell me 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:28.480 there's a problem. Do you not read that? 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:32.840 I think just everyone knows my phone etiquette, so it's 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:33.320 not an. 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:36.720 Issue, Okay. I used to do business with a girl 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:39.200 who was a bit like that, and I always came 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:43.760 away from those schools uncomfortable and I never quite warmed 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:47.720 to her because there was just a lack of warmth there. 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:51.120 Well, if I talked to you, I would say, Hi, Judge, Gina, 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:52.439 how are you? How is your day? 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:54.559 Yeah, That's how I would talk to So that and 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:58.600 your friends knowing that it's actually makes it a little 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:00.760 bit worse because then when you speak to them and 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:04.640 you say what, they know that you're aware of the 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:07.640 proper etiquette and that you're not wasting it on them. 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:11.640 Is that just familiarity breeds contempt in a way? You 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:14.760 being contemptuous? Do you think or smart or is it 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:18.280 an attitude or is it just you think that that's 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:19.480 the correct way to do it. 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:22.080 I just think there's a lot of times in life 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:24.360 where you actually want to say and just do what 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:26.520 you want to do, but you have to follow etiquette, 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:30.080 and your friends are the one time that you can 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:33.240 just be yourself. And it's not actually my way of 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:37.600 being rude or anything, but I I'm just ready for 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:39.880 the conversation to start, Like what do you want? Like, 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:43.680 I just don't think there's need to with people that 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:46.160 you know. I am aware of phone etiquette, but I 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:50.440 also don't really believe in phone etiquette. I would rather 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:52.200 just start the conversation. 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:53.960 All right, Like I said, the ring is the fa Okay, 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:56.440 So Marley, give me some other examples. So she answers 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:58.760 saying what she doesn't say goodbye anything else. 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:01.440 Well, let me just dig a little deeper into that. 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:03.640 Judge Gina, when when in the past went till he 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:05.640 has answered the phone and just said what I have 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:09.160 just hung up on her immediately, and from that day on, 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:12.120 I think it kind of shifted till his mindset about 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:15.840 phone etiquette, which she did admit afterwards, because I just 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:18.080 didn't speak to her for three weeks because of it. 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:20.440 Right, So, but did she know that's why I was 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:25.040 tell you? No, absolutely, she said, I can't talk to 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:25.560 you because of. 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:29.280 Your conversation went I just didn't talk to her. 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:33.240 But did you make any effort to make her aware 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:35.640 that you were not going to talk to on account 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:36.680 of her phone etiquette. 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:38.480 No, and I don't think I needed to. I think 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:41.640 she completely understood right away, and I think she would. 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:44.040 Only understand that if you had mentioned it to her 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:44.800 in the judge. 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:46.480 Please, can I give you some context? 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:47.400 Uh huh. 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:51.240 We were fresh out of big brother, right, So we 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:54.720 had been living with each other for. 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:57.520 Two and a half sevens yeah, seven weeks seventy days 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:01.560 or something. Yeah, but never on the phone. So suddenly 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:04.800 you were connecting via other means. 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:08.120 Yeah. So we were like pretty much just living with 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:10.120 each other every day. He didn't have to do phone calls, 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:13.840 didn't have to text or anything. And then we were 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:16.520 on the call and I was obviously calling you back. 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:18.720 That's why I didn't. That's why I just hung up. 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:23.840 And then he messaged me, you rude little fk? 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:27.680 What excuse me? Hang on? What was that a response 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:28.880 to for hanging up? 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:29.480 Oh? 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:31.400 So you had a phone call, But this is how 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:35.040 you've communicated prior to this. This wasn't something that started 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:37.560 after your brother. No, you've always done this. 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:38.560 And she's admitted to that. 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:42.280 When Marley stopped talking to you for those few weeks. 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:44.400 Why did it take you that long to call and 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:46.680 say sorry? Were you aware of what was going on? 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:50.000 Were you aware that he had stopped talking to you 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:51.720 on account of your phone etiquette? 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:52.040 Well? 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:55.080 I actually said sorry straight away. He didn't accept my 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:57.400 real sorry till three weeks. 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:01.640 Okay, so he made you sit on it. Yes, it's correct, Okay. 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:03.280 So I was being very sorry. 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:05.880 But you've continued to do that now because that's why 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:06.359 he's here. 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:09.040 Well, I just think this whole thing is just childish 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:12.080 and pathetic, and I just can't believe that a grown 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:15.399 man would not talk to a twenty year old girl 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:16.320 for three weeks. 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:19.000 Over you're going to play that card twenty year old girl, 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:20.400 like you're not grown. 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:21.119 That's the truth. 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:22.600 So you're the grown up. 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:24.760 Oh, twenty years old, you're not grown? 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:25.600 How old are you now? 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:26.440 Twenty three? 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:28.720 So how are were you then twenty when you did 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:32.680 twenty yep? Right, okay, twenty five? 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:33.359 Twenty five? 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:34.560 Am I grown at twenty five? 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:34.800 Well? 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:36.919 You both? Yeah, I would say I think so too. 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:39.600 You both can consent to your friendship. No, it's forcing 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:40.720 you to be friends. 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:43.120 And I think we understand how to say an easy 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:46.719 hello goodbye? How are you you know we've loned our 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:47.760 manners from growing up? 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:50.480 How long have you been talking like this on the phone? 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:55.000 Forever? Honestly forever? All the Yeah, since I was given 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:58.040 a phone because back in the day you only you 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:00.920 had to pay per second, had credit. 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:04.000