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Speaker 1: You are now entering the court of Judge Gina Leano.

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Speaker 2: Even the closest of friendships are not immune to a

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Speaker 2: lost connection through distance. When there's more than a disconnected

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Speaker 2: at stake. You come to my courtroom. I am Judge Gina,

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Speaker 2: and my decision is final. You better be ready to

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Speaker 2: hear my ruling.

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Speaker 1: A friend is someone you can call upon in the

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Speaker 1: good times and bad. But when is it time to

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Speaker 1: hang up on a friendship? Marley has brought Tilly to

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Speaker 1: Judge Gina's courtroom for final say over her phone etiquette.

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Speaker 1: He is seeking a public apology from Tilly and one

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars to compensate for the time Tilly has taken

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Speaker 1: from him.

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Speaker 3: My name is Marley Bandello and you would know me

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Speaker 3: best from winning Big Brother Australia twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 4: My name is Tilli Whitfeld. I'm twenty three years old.

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Speaker 4: You may know me from the twenty twenty one season

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Speaker 4: of Big Brother, or from social media, or from tattooing

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Speaker 4: freckles on my face and copying a TikTok.

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Speaker 3: I have come to Judge Gina today because I have

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Speaker 3: had such an issue with my relationship with Tilly around

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Speaker 3: her terrible, awful, disrespectful phone etiquette.

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Speaker 4: Marley Biandolo has summoned me here because he has issues

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Speaker 4: with my phone etiquette and he's pathetic and thinks that

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Speaker 3: I want to get to the bottom of this phone

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Speaker 3: etiqutte situation. I need a formal apology from Tilly, admitting

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Speaker 3: to all of her wrongs, all of her disrespect and rudeness.

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Speaker 3: I also want to be compensated a thousand dollars for

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Speaker 3: all of the time she has taken away from my

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Speaker 3: life that I can't get back.

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Speaker 4: I want Judge Gina to agree with me, because this

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Speaker 4: is a completely pathetic reason to bring someone to court

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Speaker 4: and it's a complete waste of my time.

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Speaker 1: Court is now in session. Please rise the judge Gina.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So, Chilly and Marley.

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Speaker 3: Judge Gina, Marley, you've got.

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Speaker 2: A claim against your friend Tilly. Is that right?

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Speaker 3: I absolutely do, Gina, Judge Gena or Gina.

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Speaker 2: Judge Gina ginak So, Tilly, do you know about this

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Speaker 4: I do know about this claim. Yes, this has been

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Speaker 4: going on a while.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So Marley, tell me what your case is about.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So my case, Judge Gina, is about Tilly's phone etiquette,

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Speaker 3: which is absolutely awful. Phone etiquette is something I think

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Speaker 3: it should be a staple inhumanity in our lives. Phone etiquette,

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Speaker 3: to me is up there with manners, pleases and thank you,

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Speaker 3: and Tilly absolutely has zero phone etiquette when it comes

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Speaker 4: Sorry, but how has this got anything to do with manners?

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Speaker 2: If you respond yet, I just have to wait a second, Okay,

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Speaker 2: So I'm just going to ask you just a couple

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Speaker 2: of questions before we go on with that. How do

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Speaker 3: Tilly and I met on Big Brother three years ago

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Speaker 3: and we've been talking ever since. So I have been

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Speaker 3: putting up with three years of absolutely awful, awful and rude,

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Speaker 2: Well you don't have to, you know that.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's why i'me I've come here today because I'm

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Speaker 3: actually I'm trying to clear this up. And if we

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Speaker 3: don't get it cleared up today and I don't get

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Speaker 3: the door.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well that sounds a bit harsh. But so

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Speaker 2: you met on Big Brother, but you're in Melbourne and

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Speaker 2: Tilly is in Sydney, so tell me about that.

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Speaker 3: So I'm over here in Melbourne and Tilly's over there

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Speaker 3: in Sydney. But we have created a very close friendship.

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Speaker 3: So we do stay in communication almost every day.

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Speaker 2: Are you romantically involved?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not. This thing from did a.

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Speaker 2: Shocking look on everyone's face. Okay, So you met on

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Speaker 2: Big Brother and you actually one Big Brother? Is that right?

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Speaker 3: I did? I did?

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Speaker 2: Ye? Wow? Okay? And where were you in the in

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I was evicted twice.

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Speaker 2: How far in were you evicted?

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Speaker 4: Maybe four days five days out?

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Speaker 2: Okay? So you forged a real friendship during the recording

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Speaker 2: of Big Brother. How many weeks did that go for?

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Speaker 3: So it went for two and a half months actually,

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Speaker 3: And Chilly and I from the start we're best friends

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Speaker 2: Remained best friend. Yes, that's right, okay, and you stayed

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Speaker 3: We did straight away, like you right away, it didn't stop.

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Speaker 2: How long ago we're talking about twenty twenty one, so

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Speaker 2: it's been.

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Speaker 3: Two years almost three actually.

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Speaker 3: Well, for the most part it is because she being

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Speaker 3: in Sydney and me and Melbourne. Yeah, it's usually over

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Speaker 2: So how many times a day would you speak on

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Speaker 2: the phone? Once a day, every second day, once a week.

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Speaker 4: What do you think till I'm going to go at

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Speaker 4: least every second day, probably second a.

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Speaker 2: Couple of days.

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Speaker 3: For a long time it was every single.

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Speaker 2: How long do the phone calls go for? What are

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Speaker 2: you ringing each other for? Do you talk about your

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Speaker 3: Sometimes sometimes there isn't an agenda, which is also a

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Speaker 3: part of this piece, Judge Gina. Sometimes Tilly will call

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Speaker 3: me with absolute nonsense, soon to just hang up the

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Speaker 2: Okay, what do you say, Tilly? Do you agree with

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, I do agree. I don't think that I

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Speaker 2: Okay, so that could be a nonsensical phone call. You

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Speaker 2: could have mentioned you, But so what happened? Is that

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Speaker 4: Yes, like I crashed my car and then I forget

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Speaker 3: Happened, And that's serious that Actually this is what this

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Speaker 2: You crashed your car and you called and you couldn't

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Speaker 4: Well, this morning I called him and then a lady

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Speaker 4: at the traffic lights. So of course the call was interrupted.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, and then what so then you were confused

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Speaker 2: about why you're called? Is that what you're saying? All right, Well,

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Speaker 4: Didn't know that was a thing till today.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's actually illegally you're allowed to do that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I won't do that again.

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Speaker 2: Do you agree that your phone etiquette is a little

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Speaker 4: Look, I don't really have an issue with it, no,

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Speaker 2: Because you're not on the receiving end of it, and

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Speaker 2: that's your your way communicating. But I'm going to ask

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Speaker 3: Got plenty, Okay, just start with one. All right, let's

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Speaker 3: let me hit you with one, Judge Gina. She calls

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Speaker 3: me about Obviously the call is something centered around her,

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Speaker 3: which I have no problem around. I absolutely love listening

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Speaker 3: to two funny stories about Tilly. But yeah, let's just

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Speaker 3: say she calls me, she starts talking nonsense about some

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Speaker 3: topic that's happened to her today, and we get to

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Speaker 3: the end of the call, Judge Gina. And at the

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Speaker 3: you know, you start to fade out and you're about

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Speaker 3: to say goodbye, all right, lovely talking to you, thank

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Speaker 3: listening to me. You know, there is absolutely none of that. No, no, no,

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Speaker 3: I do do that. Yes, I definitely do that. But Tilly,

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Speaker 3: what Tilly likes to do is Tilly likes to just

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Speaker 3: gotta go or whatever, just quickly as like so abrupt

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Speaker 2: But maybe that's because you've done the wrap up and

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Speaker 3: Sorry. So no, no, no, not in this not in this circumstance.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying you don't get a chance to do the wrap.

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Speaker 3: Right, and she'll just hang up and go, Okay, what's

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Speaker 3: that about, Tillie.

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Speaker 4: Well, I actually disagree because I think, like, once the

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Speaker 4: have a good day. It was nice talking, ill I

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Speaker 2: To sit and grow up around Italian families, because we

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Speaker 2: say goodbye in the kitchen, the hallway, the front door

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Speaker 2: out and the driveway. We say goodbye about seven thousand times.

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Speaker 2: You're not into the no you hang up first, and

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Speaker 2: no I'll hang up first. No, you hang up first,

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Speaker 2: I'll hang up for you. Don't do that.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't even say bye to my mom.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so what's the trigger in your mind that the

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Speaker 4: Up, like if I if I've gotten what I needed

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Speaker 4: out of the call, I'm gonna be the driver.

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Speaker 2: You're the driver in the call. You're there for the

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Speaker 2: purpose once it's happened.

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Speaker 4: Yes, correct, Phone calls have a reason. Once the initial

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Speaker 4: conversation is over, there's no need to continue them the

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Speaker 2: Do you communicate the same? Would you say you communicate

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Speaker 2: the same with Marley as you do everybody else.

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Speaker 4: Yeap, Marley's the only one that's had an issue with it.

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Speaker 4: In fact, I literally called my boss yesterday to say

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Speaker 4: I'm going to the hospital. I'm not coming to work.

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Speaker 4: And I didn't say goodbye. Why not because it was

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Speaker 2: Did he say goodbye?

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm not sure because it was already hung up.

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Speaker 2: Oh so you just said I'm going to the hospital. Clunk,

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Speaker 2: I said Hi, I was crying. I said, Hi, I

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Speaker 2: can't come to work the Salva. I've got to go

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Speaker 2: to the hospital. She said why. I said, rash is

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Speaker 2: are bad. Then a crowd a bit and you hung up?

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Speaker 4: Yes, ok, okay, because I had to go. The conversation

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Speaker 2: But why is by not part of your agenda? Like

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Speaker 2: why are you not saying bye? That is just like

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Speaker 4: Well, I've just never really had to say goodbye. Nobody's

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Speaker 2: It up till right. Okay, So when when someone calls you,

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Speaker 2: So spring ring? Okay, ready answer? What are you going to?

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Speaker 4: Just depend?

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Speaker 2: What are you saying?

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Speaker 4: Maybe?

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Speaker 3: What? What? What?

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Speaker 2: Who says what? That's just sounds like you're pissed off?

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Speaker 2: And are you pissed off? Are you annoyed? No?

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Speaker 4: I just I'm just wondering. What, Like, I just get

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Speaker 2: So if you called someone and they said what to you?

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Speaker 4: I would just tell them straight away?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So you would just think they're cutting to the chase.

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Speaker 4: I would appreciate it, Yeah, I would you.

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Speaker 2: Okay. So do you realize though, that when you do

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Speaker 4: I think everything is situational. Like if the President called me,

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Speaker 4: I would say, hi, mister President, how are you okay?

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Speaker 2: But that's actually a little bit worse what you're saying now,

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Speaker 2: because that just means that the people you say what

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Speaker 2: then that tells me that you know how to do

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Speaker 2: So when Marley calls, do you say what to him?

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Speaker 2: Is that that way you answer the call for him?

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Speaker 2: Usually yes?

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Speaker 4: Sometimes yes, okay?

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Speaker 2: And why just because.

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Speaker 4: If it's someone you know, it's they're calling for something? Everyone,

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Speaker 4: this is the rule. Someone only calls you normally when

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Speaker 4: I'm like, sorry for calling? Is this actually a good time?

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Speaker 4: Because nobody actually wants your phone call normally?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 4: Just you know, get to the point.

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Speaker 2: Who's who are you talking about? Nobody?

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Speaker 4: Well, like my grandma when I call her, she says oh,

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Speaker 4: she doesn't say hi, she says are you driving? And

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Speaker 4: I say yes, I'm driving. She says, is that why

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Speaker 2: And I say yes, oh right, so there's got to

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Speaker 4: Exactly exactly, you. I have plenty of favorites in my phone.

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Speaker 4: I don't just.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. But like you would just say,

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Speaker 4: like when you answer the phone, you'll just say how

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Speaker 4: oh not god, why how are you? Because the ringing

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Speaker 2: The ringing part is the high. Yes, so why is

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're established establishing communication.

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Speaker 2: When you call someone in Italy, that's a pronto, which

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Speaker 2: is ready the literal translation is ready.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Perfect.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, I mean the thing is that Marley doesn't

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Speaker 2: And in actual fact, if one of my friends called

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Speaker 2: I would automatically think they were not in a good space.

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Speaker 2: And if they didn't say goodbye. I would assume they're

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Speaker 4: I think just everyone knows my phone etiquette, so it's

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Speaker 2: Issue, Okay. I used to do business with a girl

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Speaker 4: Well, if I talked to you, I would say, Hi, Judge, Gina,

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Speaker 4: how are you? How is your day?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, That's how I would talk to So that and

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Speaker 2: your friends knowing that it's actually makes it a little

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Speaker 2: bit worse because then when you speak to them and

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Speaker 2: proper etiquette and that you're not wasting it on them.

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Speaker 2: Is that just familiarity breeds contempt in a way? You

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Speaker 2: being contemptuous? Do you think or smart or is it

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Speaker 4: I just think there's a lot of times in life

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Speaker 4: you want to do, but you have to follow etiquette,

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Speaker 4: and your friends are the one time that you can

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Speaker 4: just be yourself. And it's not actually my way of

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Speaker 4: the conversation to start, Like what do you want? Like,

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Speaker 4: I just don't think there's need to with people that

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Speaker 4: you know. I am aware of phone etiquette, but I

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Speaker 4: also don't really believe in phone etiquette. I would rather

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Speaker 2: All right, Like I said, the ring is the fa Okay,

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Speaker 2: So Marley, give me some other examples. So she answers

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Speaker 2: saying what she doesn't say goodbye anything else.

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Speaker 3: Well, let me just dig a little deeper into that.

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Speaker 3: Judge Gina, when when in the past went till he

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Speaker 3: just hung up on her immediately, and from that day on,

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Speaker 3: I think it kind of shifted till his mindset about

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Speaker 3: phone etiquette, which she did admit afterwards, because I just

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Speaker 3: didn't speak to her for three weeks because of it.

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Speaker 2: Right, So, but did she know that's why I was

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Speaker 2: tell you? No, absolutely, she said, I can't talk to

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Speaker 2: you because of.

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Speaker 3: Your conversation went I just didn't talk to her.

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Speaker 2: But did you make any effort to make her aware

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Speaker 2: that you were not going to talk to on account

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Speaker 2: of her phone etiquette.

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Speaker 3: No, and I don't think I needed to. I think

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Speaker 3: she completely understood right away, and I think she would.

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Speaker 2: Only understand that if you had mentioned it to her

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Speaker 2: in the judge.

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Speaker 4: Please, can I give you some context?

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Speaker 2: Uh huh.

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Speaker 4: We were fresh out of big brother, right, So we

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Speaker 4: had been living with each other for.

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Speaker 2: Two and a half sevens yeah, seven weeks seventy days

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Speaker 2: or something. Yeah, but never on the phone. So suddenly

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Speaker 4: Yeah. So we were like pretty much just living with

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Speaker 4: each other every day. He didn't have to do phone calls,

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Speaker 4: didn't have to text or anything. And then we were

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Speaker 4: That's why I didn't. That's why I just hung up.

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Speaker 4: And then he messaged me, you rude little fk?

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Speaker 2: What excuse me? Hang on? What was that a response

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Speaker 2: to for hanging up?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: So you had a phone call, But this is how

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Speaker 2: you've communicated prior to this. This wasn't something that started

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Speaker 2: after your brother. No, you've always done this.

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Speaker 3: And she's admitted to that.

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Speaker 2: When Marley stopped talking to you for those few weeks.

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Speaker 2: Why did it take you that long to call and

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Speaker 2: say sorry? Were you aware of what was going on?

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Speaker 2: Were you aware that he had stopped talking to you

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Speaker 2: on account of your phone etiquette?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 4: I actually said sorry straight away. He didn't accept my

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Speaker 4: real sorry till three weeks.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so he made you sit on it. Yes, it's correct, Okay.

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Speaker 4: So I was being very sorry.

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Speaker 2: But you've continued to do that now because that's why

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Speaker 4: Well, I just think this whole thing is just childish

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Speaker 4: and pathetic, and I just can't believe that a grown

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Speaker 4: for three weeks.

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Speaker 3: Over you're going to play that card twenty year old girl,

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Speaker 3: like you're not grown.

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Speaker 4: That's the truth.

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Speaker 2: So you're the grown up.

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Speaker 3: Oh, twenty years old, you're not grown?

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Speaker 2: How old are you now?

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Speaker 4: Twenty three?

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Speaker 2: So how are were you then twenty when you did

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Speaker 2: twenty yep? Right, okay, twenty five?

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Speaker 4: Twenty five?

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Speaker 3: Am I grown at twenty five?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 3: You both? Yeah, I would say I think so too.

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Speaker 2: You both can consent to your friendship. No, it's forcing

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Speaker 2: you to be friends.

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Speaker 3: And I think we understand how to say an easy

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Speaker 3: hello goodbye? How are you you know we've loned our

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Speaker 3: manners from growing up?

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Speaker 2: How long have you been talking like this on the phone?

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Speaker 4: Forever? Honestly forever? All the Yeah, since I was given

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Speaker 4: had to pay per second, had credit.

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Speaker 2: Right, Okay, So based on that, my.

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Speaker 4: Mum only gave me like nothing. So yeah, honestly, goodbyes

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Speaker 2: Okay. So Marley, what you're asking for is you want

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Speaker 2: a formal apology from Tilly via social media of her

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Speaker 2: admitting her wrong and expressing how sorry she is for

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Speaker 2: extremely poor, rude and disrespectful phone etiquette. Is that? Is

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Speaker 2: that your claim?

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Speaker 3: Is that is correct?

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Speaker 2: What about that Tilly?

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Speaker 4: That just absolutely will not be happening? And I truly

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Speaker 4: like genuinely nobody else has ever complained.

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Speaker 2: Do you agree that at least you should accommodate him

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Speaker 2: he doesn't like it, and if you care about him,

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Speaker 2: that's what you would do. Or is it your way

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Speaker 4: The only time I felt bad about it was when

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Speaker 4: he was crying about it.

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Speaker 2: He cried about such a liar, such a lie. I think, Okay,

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Speaker 2: when was he crying? You know, you have to tell

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Speaker 2: the chee because I want to.

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Speaker 3: Hear it too. I want to hear the story too.

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Speaker 3: Tell me when I was crying?

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Speaker 2: So you actually got him, So you're willing to admit

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Speaker 2: that you got him to a point of teas because

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Speaker 2: he's just going to be so hard on him. So

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Speaker 2: I think you need to be compensated. Actually, Marley, now

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Speaker 2: that I'm hearing this absolutely long ago.

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Speaker 3: Is that this is traumatic. To be honest, you know what,

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Speaker 3: don't even go into it, Telly. You brought me to tears,

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Speaker 3: and I need to be compensated for.

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Speaker 2: This, right, Okay? Okay, Well, I mean, look, I think

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Speaker 2: you need the formal apology via social media. What does

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Speaker 2: that look like, Marley?

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Speaker 3: What do you think that they could be in the

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Speaker 3: form of a story on our Instagram? I would like

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Speaker 3: assure it could be anywhere from fifteen to thirty seconds, but.

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Speaker 4: That doesn't make sense. Then if you're my friend and

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Speaker 4: you want me to accommodate to you, it goes both ways. Yes,

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Speaker 4: And I think you'll look like a real sook at

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Speaker 4: twenty eight years old wanting an apology over this on

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Speaker 4: social media. That looks a bit weird.

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Speaker 2: I think he just wants to bring it to a head.

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Speaker 2: He wants it to stop. And the fact that your

447
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Speaker 2: friends have never raised or pointed at your phone etiquette

448
00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,520
Speaker 2: doesn't mean they like it. It just means they're accommodating you.

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Speaker 4: My friends tell me they love it, right, It's true.

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Speaker 4: They say thank you so much for not wasting my time.

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Speaker 4: They like it. They like when I just get phone

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Speaker 4: calls Hey, They're just like hey, and I'm like, what

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Speaker 4: are for dinner? They're like chicken, okay, be beep done.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 4: They can run into the shops buy their chicken. No

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Speaker 4: time waste.

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Speaker 3: How but when you call your friends, how about you

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Speaker 3: when you call your friends with an issue or something

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Speaker 3: that's going on in your life, and then you do

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Speaker 3: the same beep beep, hang up after you're done impiling

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Speaker 3: all of this information onto a friend or myself, and

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Speaker 3: then you just hang up on them.

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Speaker 4: There's different ways of saying goodbye. For example, I could

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Speaker 4: say ilism and they would know that. The conversation is I.

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Speaker 3: Love you so much and I've never heard you say

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Speaker 3: that to me?

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Speaker 2: She doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, clearly, it's not only phone Etiquette's what.

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Speaker 2: Else do you say to say goodbye?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 4: And then yeah, okay, so that's pretty obvious.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's an obvious.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what's the It's just yeah, it's just going against

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Speaker 4: the grain. You don't just have to say goodbye. Do

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Speaker 4: you know how my grandma takes so much wasted time

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Speaker 4: of me? Okay, I love you done?

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Speaker 3: Sometimes your beautiful grandmother. Listen to the way she's talking

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Speaker 3: about her grandmother. Let alone me.

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Speaker 4: Yes. In person, I would give her a little kiss

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Speaker 4: on the chair and then I would go yes. But

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Speaker 4: over the phone, I'm not gonna It's like we have

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Speaker 4: to write a love note to each other. It takes

484
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Speaker 4: ten minutes to say goodbye. It's ridiculous, and I'm like

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Speaker 4: trying to walk into work already late down her a

486
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 4: favorite corner on the way to work, when her other

487
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 4: grandkids might not even call her.

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Speaker 2: So you don't like the pleasant trees or the you

489
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Speaker 2: just want it to cut to the chase exactly.

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Speaker 4: I'm just not having the like the really, oh my god, okay.

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Speaker 2: Ask you for the station. People are just saying hi.

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Speaker 2: It's like exhaling. It doesn't take any more time than

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Speaker 2: by it's yes, that's it. But I think hello and

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Speaker 2: goodbye so that people know because the sound of a

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Speaker 2: phone being hung up in your ear you've cut them off.

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Speaker 2: It's a little bit disrespectful. I don't think it's courteous,

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Speaker 2: and I don't think it's manners. Is there any other

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Speaker 2: way that you communicate?

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Speaker 3: Yes, there's voice messages.

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Speaker 2: The voice messages you're doing that, Yes, and Marley's go forever,

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Speaker 2: which is why I wish I could hang up.

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Speaker 4: I honestly wish I could hang up. Sometimes they go

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Speaker 4: for five minutes, so twenty voice messages for like.

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Speaker 1: So.

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Speaker 3: You taught me fault.

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Speaker 4: Mary, I have to go and like sit in a

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Speaker 4: private spot and listen for ten Be sure you two.

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Speaker 2: Run in love?

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Speaker 3: Definitely, not absolutely sure.

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Speaker 2: Arguing I'm telling you there is here.

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Speaker 3: I feel bad for her, poor poor partner dealing with this.

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Speaker 3: She she admitted that she deals. She does the same

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Speaker 3: thing to him. I feel thanks.

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Speaker 2: You go all right, Well, I'm going to make a

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Speaker 2: decision now.

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Speaker 1: Judge Gina is deliberating and will soon hand down her verdict.

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Speaker 1: Please do not leave the courtroom.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So, Marley, your case is about phone etiquette and

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Speaker 2: you think that it should be a staple in human

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Speaker 2: social interactive circulatory system. Is what you've said, And what

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Speaker 2: you mean is that you want phone etiquette to be

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Speaker 2: a direct correlation to the way you carry yourself in life,

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Speaker 2: and just like manners, telephone calls should be an extension

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Speaker 2: of etiquette and manners. Is that right, that's correct, Marley.

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Speaker 2: You're asking for a formal apology from Televia, social media

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Speaker 2: and financial compensation to the sum of one thousand dollars. Well,

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to grant you any financial compensation, thank you.

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Speaker 2: But having said that, I do agree that I think

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Speaker 2: that you can actually give Marley a formal apology via

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Speaker 2: social media. And in that apology, I would like you

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Speaker 2: to admit you're wrong and express that you are sorry

532
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 2: for your rude and disrespectful phone etiquette, and at the

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Speaker 2: commencement of it you need to say hello or hi,

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Speaker 2: and at the conclusion I would like you to say goodbye.

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Speaker 2: So this I'm hoping will get you in a position

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Speaker 2: where you can have some consideration. My decision is final,

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Speaker 2: thank you.

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Speaker 3: I'm very happy with today's outcome, I didn't receive the compensation, which,

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Speaker 3: to be fair, Judge Gina, I guess I didn't deserve

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Speaker 3: a thousand dollars, but hey, I did win the argument.

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Speaker 3: Tilley now has basically admitted to her wrongs, but she

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Speaker 3: won't completely win me over as a friend until she

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Speaker 3: apologizes formally on Instagram.

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Speaker 4: I feel so annoyed about today's outcome. I think it's

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Speaker 4: pathetic that a twenty eight year old man she wants

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Speaker 4: a formal apology on social media, and I just don't

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Speaker 4: think it will teach me any lessons.

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Speaker 3: I think Tillian I's disagreement has been settled once and

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Speaker 3: for all. She couldn't keep just hearing it from me.

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Speaker 3: She had to hear it from Judge Gena, and I

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Speaker 3: thank her for telling Tilly straight that she is absolutely

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Speaker 3: despicable with her behavior as in phone etiquette.

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Speaker 4: Marley might think this disagreement is settled, but it's not done.

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Speaker 4: It's not changing anything. This is a way of life,

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Speaker 4: it's a lifestyle. All I have to say is okay, bye.

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