1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: This is gem Nation with Jonesy. 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 2: Comedian Mark Watts has surprised us in recent years, successfully 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: completing the Essays Australia course in the first season. We 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 2: didn't know what to expect, but who knew that He's 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 2: a heaps we could qualified wine specialist. 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 3: He's got a new live show called. 7 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 2: An Idiot's a Guide to Wine, and he combines the 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 2: two things I love the most in life, comedy and wine. 9 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: May great to be here. 10 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 4: I wouldn't have thought you as a wine guy. I 11 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 4: follow you on Instagram and I see your Happy wines 12 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:33,959 Speaker 4: Day post, but I never would have thought that you're 13 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 4: a wine guy. 14 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: I'm actually qualified wine expert as well. So does that mean? 15 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 5: Look at the thing is, people are often surprised when 16 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 5: they find out that I'm not as stupid as they've 17 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 5: preconceived I would be. But I hold what they call 18 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 5: it a west Set Level three, which is like a. 19 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: Like a Semelia International Standard. 20 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 5: And I'm also a qualified wine judge and a Brossa 21 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 5: master as well. 22 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 3: Is this a recent thing? 23 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 5: I know? I've I've been an alcoholic for years now. 24 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 5: I've been in the wine for over twenty years, but 25 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 5: I've been a qualified wine person for about four five 26 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 5: years or something like that, and I just kind of 27 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 5: keep up skilling and getting new qualifications. So the next 28 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 5: one would be for me would be diploying wine. 29 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 30 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 2: I imagine that wine experts are big punzas who Yeah. 31 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: Well we are, are you puns? No, not at all. 32 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 5: That's what this show is about, demystifying wine and kind 33 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 5: of making it super accessible and funny. It's just it's 34 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 5: a show about wine, but people taste wine during the show, 35 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 5: So yeah, you don't just talk about the show like 36 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 5: talk about wine in the show. It's six wines and 37 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 5: I talk through each grape and the variety and where 38 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 5: it's come from, the history and stuff like that, and 39 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 5: just it's a comedy show, but people are drinking through it, 40 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 5: which is why it's been very popular. I thought it 41 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 5: was the comedy, it's not. It's the free boots that 42 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 5: they get. 43 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: Is there good wine jokes? 44 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's lots of great wine because there's lots of 45 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 5: really amazing history about wine, Like wine wine has been 46 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 5: around for eight thousand years and the wheel has only 47 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 5: been around for five and a half thousand years. So 48 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 5: we ended wine A good couple of fats, So we 49 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 5: had over two thousand years of no drink driving, which 50 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 5: is excellent. 51 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: World One team. 52 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 3: And that was from grapes early on. 53 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, not like prison wine made from socks and underparts 54 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 2: or anything. 55 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: I haven't made prison wine yet. We'll see how the 56 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: show goes. 57 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was made in Georgia, which is you know 58 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 5: currently I think possibly in Russia. 59 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. We'll see how the end of the day. 60 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 5: Goes, but it's it was made in Georgia in big 61 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 5: ceramic pots eight thousand years ago. 62 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 4: Which one was beer first? Because they always say they 63 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 4: bag on about the Egyptians made beer. Does that just 64 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 4: wine pre date beer? 65 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: I think beer might be just before once. 66 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 4: But it would be easier to make beer because you've 67 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,119 Speaker 4: got the hops and the fermentation process. 68 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 69 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 5: I heard I read somewhere that they discovered beer because 70 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 5: somebody was grinding grains to make like a bread or 71 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 5: a meal. They were grinding it into a big grinding 72 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 5: stone there and water got in it and it started 73 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 5: it kicked off the fermentation. They were like, wow, look, 74 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 5: how mankey that bread's got. Let's drink the mankey bread. 75 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: And it was gone. Yeah, let's let's do that let's 76 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 1: experiment with that, and then VB was invented. 77 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 5: Before you know it, they just got, let's drink more 78 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 5: of that weird mankey juice that was left in that pot. 79 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 4: I find when I go and get beer these days, 80 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 4: and you still drink beer, don't. 81 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 5: You you like it? 82 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: But I had a couple in the car on the 83 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: way here. What's with the new all the hipster beers? 84 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: It's all fruity beer. 85 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 4: When I was a kid, all you could drink was 86 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 4: what your dad drank, larger and bitter. That was it. 87 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 4: Pretty about Carlton Draft who is new and that was it. 88 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 4: But now there's all these and the beer is. 89 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 5: Like spas and stuff like that and xbas and it 90 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 5: tastes like passion for it. 91 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:36,119 Speaker 1: Yeah. 92 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 5: And the reason why I taste my passion for is 93 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 5: because they deliberately do it. They enhance it with hops. 94 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 5: So I know a bit about beer as well, and 95 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 5: spirits and everything for. 96 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: All of it. 97 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 5: If you can drink it, I know about it, except 98 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 5: you yogurt. Don't care about drinking yogurt. 99 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: They enhanced cooky. 100 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 5: I'll pass on that bottles are too small anyways, Like 101 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 5: what am I supposed to that is that supposed. 102 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:57,839 Speaker 1: To supply you're not supposed to drink that much? 103 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 4: You cooled you only that's the out of your court 104 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 4: that you drink. 105 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: Is it? If what happens if you drink too much 106 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: you cooled, you become a hipster? 107 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 4: Is that what happens to you start listening to John, but. 108 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 3: You talk to the afterlife because you're into the you. 109 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: Coult she was going to work it back in and 110 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 2: beause you missed it, you both chose to ignore it. 111 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 4: I got it because I'm not a pun guy. Amanda 112 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 4: hates when I bloss over a puns. But one am 113 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 4: I I don't think they're funny. 114 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: I don't think they're good. Oh wow, I know I 115 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: just had. 116 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 2: Been that kind of just seventeen seventeen years. 117 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: Wow, I don't think it's funny. 118 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: I just like it's a long time to find out, 119 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: isn't it. 120 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 4: I just you know, we've lost O and Jay today. 121 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 4: We're a bit raw emotionally, but you know it's I 122 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 4: can't be forced into laughing. 123 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: Wow, you don't laugh at my stuff. 124 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 5: You guys really are like a married couple that's going 125 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 5: to realize the radio's. 126 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: Lovely, Like a married couple and then you come in 127 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: here and go, oh. 128 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 5: They really are like like a married co but like 129 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 5: at a barbecue, I want to leave. 130 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 3: Well, we better have that wine you brought in then. 131 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 5: Yes, and you bought us in wine I did. I 132 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 5: always bring wine as a gift to good people. 133 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 2: People Now when they go to your house for dinner 134 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,799 Speaker 2: or whatever, intimidated about what to bring. 135 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: People don't bring wine anymore. 136 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 5: So yeah, if they come round my place, it's just 137 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 5: like or if I'm going to a friend's house, I 138 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 5: want to do Some friends had a very small dinner 139 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 5: party and we went there and I ended up taking 140 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 5: six bottles of wine and I only drank five. So 141 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 5: I mean, what sort of bloke am I? Is it true? 142 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 4: The dimple and the bottom of the wine bottle. The 143 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 4: deeper the dimple, the better the wine. 144 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 5: No, that's not correct. It's also called a punt. The 145 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 5: bottom of the bottle is called a punt, and that 146 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 5: is you see very the deeper ones are in champagne 147 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 5: bottles often, and that's for a process called riddling, where 148 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 5: they turn them upside down and they turn the bottles 149 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 5: around so that the yeast will fall down at the 150 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 5: neck of the bottle and they can extract it. 151 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: So it's for process, not a judgement whether it's good 152 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 2: or not. 153 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 154 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 4: Correct, that's what I made. Have called me this morning 155 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 4: when I didn't get a punt. 156 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: No God, and he's worried about your part. 157 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 3: I know you have an audience. 158 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 5: America's always great to It's always great to be around 159 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 5: the married couple who are having some trouble. 160 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 4: We don't have any issues. It's all fine. Merriic Wat's 161 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 4: an Idiot's Guide to Wine. You get your tickets at 162 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 4: Sydneyfringe dot com. 163 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: It's always a trick to catch up with you. Pleasure guys. 164 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me.