1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: And Amanda jam Nation Double a Chattery drops today. 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 2: Speaking of mums and boys. Anita and I do a 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: podcast together and freend Anita mcgreat, that's right, and she's 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: known my sons for fifteen years and we thought, with 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 2: Mother's Day coming up, what a great chance to sit 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 2: down with the boys. My sons were both free that 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 2: day from university commitments, so sucko. It was them to 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: talk about our parenting and to talk about our lives. 9 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 2: And I've never actually sat down with them and had 10 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 2: a conversation like this, talk to them all the time, 11 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: but having Anita's perspective on it was very interesting. It's 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: funny that the podcast, as you said, drops today, and 13 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: a lot of it is raz. Our love language is 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,959 Speaker 2: raz in our family, and the sort of the as 15 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: we say the Pooh sandwich, you start with something nice, 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: to say, a bit of a stab and then something nice. 17 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: We laugh a lot in our family. 18 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 3: The Pooh can't outweigh the bread. 19 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: No, they have to have more bread. So there's a 20 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: lot of laughter in the podcast too. But we've got 21 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 2: to talk about things that I would never normally discuss 22 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: with the boys. Because Anita sought from a different perspective 23 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 2: for example, for example, what it was like having a 24 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 2: mum in in a public eye for me, I just 25 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: go to work and I do a job for them. 26 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: How have they found their privacy around me being a 27 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: so called public person and the things I've spoken about 28 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 2: on the radio about them and how I've felt about that. 29 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: So it's a really interesting take on how they've navigated 30 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: that in their lives. And also was a chance to say, 31 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 2: we've how they felt about my mother ing, because it's 32 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: the stuff that you stab yourself with, the fact I 33 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 2: wasn't there early in the mornings, the fact I couldn't 34 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: go to the Mother's Day festivities early in the morning, 35 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. How have they felt about 36 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: my mother? And here they are now, this is Liam 37 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:51,559 Speaker 2: and Jack. And in case you don't know the story 38 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: of my sons, Liam this month is turning twenty four. 39 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: Jack is turning twenty two. I've put some of the 40 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: vision up on our socials and will continue to do so. 41 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: So you see that I have a matching terrible mustaches. 42 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 2: But here they are sort of talking to me about 43 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 2: my mothering. You know, it's interesting because Anita and I 44 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: often talk about as every working woman we know. Every 45 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: mother we know talks about how did we do as mothers? 46 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: And I look at the two of you, and I'm 47 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 2: always so proud of the two of you, But my 48 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: failings are always in my mind, pretty close to the surface, 49 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: and I thought it'd be interesting to see your perceptions 50 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: of your upbringing. Obviously, we start with how great I 51 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: was and work back to how great I was. 52 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: Should we run off the bullet point list you gave 53 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 3: us emphasis on was So that's. 54 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 2: The tone of it as but it's a chance to 55 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: talk about how they have felt about their dad and 56 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: the decision we made as a family when I thought 57 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: it's time to talk publicly about what's happening at home. 58 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: Harley had been diagnosed with Parkinson's disease, a really hideous 59 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,839 Speaker 2: form of Parkinson's disease, and so it's been a very 60 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: hard trot the last few years. And Harley also made 61 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: the decision about, Okay, let's not make it a family 62 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: secret anymore. Let's open the window, tell people what's happening, 63 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 2: to give us some freedom. Really, but I did discuss 64 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: it with the boys at the time. But what Liam 65 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: articulated in this too is that because people know me 66 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: and part and that he gets it. Part of my 67 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 2: job is for people to feel they know me, and 68 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: I love that about my job. But it gives people 69 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: permission to be over familiar with them as well about 70 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: their dad. And it was interesting asking them how they 71 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: deal with when people ask them about how Harley's going. 72 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 3: And I think I've been trying to do is talk 73 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 3: about Dad not from a disease point of view, like 74 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 3: just talk about, yeah, he was watching the f one 75 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 3: the other day or you know, because I feel like 76 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: when people have a chronic illness, it's such an easy 77 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 3: thing to do to talk about them as if they 78 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 3: are their illness. But yeah, it's a nicer thing to 79 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 3: talk about dad's interests and what he's been up to 80 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 3: and stuff like that. 81 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we've got a photo at home so that 82 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: the care and see a photo of us as younger people. 83 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: It's Hallie and I as a younger couple of you know, 84 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: us as a family before all this kind of took 85 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: parts of him away, But I think that's a really 86 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: nice strategy, Lamb of presenting who who is, not just 87 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: the hard bits. And that's why in the early start, 88 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: like we didn't really ever talk about it. 89 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 3: And there's one way you can not say, oh, you know, 90 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 3: not because it wasn't like we were scared to talk 91 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 3: about It's just because that wasn't who Dad was and 92 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 3: it's still not who he is. 93 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: That's very good, it's very insightful from lads. 94 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 2: And they've had to develop these strategies. And when I 95 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 2: do go out with Lim and Jack and often I'll say, 96 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: let's go out to dinner to give them a chance 97 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 2: to tell me how they're feeling about stuff. And we 98 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: actually we don't deep dive on it. We just we 99 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: know who we are, we know who our family is, 100 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 2: and we kind of just get on with it. But 101 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 2: navigating that in the bigger picture was very interesting. So 102 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: we spoke about all kinds of things and the podcast. 103 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: To hear the full podcast, head to Double Chattery dot 104 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 2: COMET drops today.