1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Now joining me on the line right now to tell 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: us a little bit more about what has happened over 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: the last week or so, and I believe last night 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: as well, from the twenty four to seven superstore. I 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: believe I've got Usman on the line. Good morning to 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: you Usman. Good morning now, Osmond. I know that there 7 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: has been well i've certainly seen some CCTV footage of 8 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: a group targeting your shop. Firstly, was that you or 9 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: the staff member? 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 2: No, there were the two staff members in the shop 11 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 2: at that time, now, Osmond. 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: Well, firstly, can I also ask as well? I know 13 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: that there's been a number of incidents over the last week, 14 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: but were you guys targeted last night as well? 15 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 2: Yeah? And last night it was worst. They came with 16 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 2: the knives, with the pocket knife and some cutters. You 17 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: know you used the cutters to cut the boxes. 18 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, two kids, Yeah, Oh my goodness, Osman, tell me 19 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: what happened last night. 20 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: There were two boys working last night. It was about 21 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: it was in evening, about eight o'clock, eight point five, 22 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: and some kids just came in the shop with the 23 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: cutters and they just point the knife at the that 24 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: cutter thing on on one of our employed and they 25 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 2: just get shot, what's what's what's going on here? And 26 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: then they just ran away, you know, they just get 27 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 2: them scared. And then because they were very young kids 28 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 2: like eleven years old or twelve years old, and there 29 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 2: was two boys and two girls inside and two girls 30 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 2: and one boy stayed outside the door. 31 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: My god. 32 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: And it's it's getting worst and worst every day. It's 33 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 2: very it's getting very hard to do business in Darwin 34 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: like this because all the employers getting scared, so they say, 35 00:01:58,320 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: we don't want to work. 36 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: Here, what is this? 37 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 2: This is not a good place this and that, you know. Yeah, 38 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: and you know there's already a shortage of stuff in 39 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: all over Australia, so it's getting harder and harder now. 40 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: Well and Osmond, you know, I watched that vision from 41 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: last night and also some of the vision from earlier 42 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: in the week, and I thought to myself, the staff 43 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: must feel really scared. 44 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they. 45 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: Are, mate. I you know, I really feel for you, 46 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: same as you know, like anybody that is having to 47 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: deal with this in your business and when you go 48 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: to work. Now, what was the response. I'm assuming that 49 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: you know that obviously last night when this well Firstly, 50 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: what did they steal? 51 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: They didn't steal anything. They just came in. There are 52 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 2: some money and stuff. Yeah and yeah, but and so 53 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: last night, but luckily the employees are yeah. 54 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: Well that yeah, exactly right. So did they did they 55 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: end up getting any money or didn't get any in the. 56 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 2: End, No, because they get because they were very small kids, 57 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 2: like very young, So the employers get them scared, you know, 58 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: like they were big boys. So so they just ran 59 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: away and we just called the police immediately and we 60 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: give them sciy with footage and stuff. Yeah and yeah, 61 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: and yeah. It's getting worse, you know. I mean, I 62 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: don't know what happened. If tomorrow more kids come with 63 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: a knife and stab someone other employees, Like, what's going 64 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: to happen? Who's responsible? You know, if they get one 65 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: of us? So yeah, it's very nice. It's getting worse. 66 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: Now we need something, We need protection, We need to 67 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: do some police to do something for this. You know, 68 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 2: they should be banned from from from city, or they 69 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: should get arrested. There should be something, but nothing's happening. 70 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: Yep. And osman, this is one of the things that 71 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: you know, everybody's scratching their heads and asking at this 72 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: point in time. I mean, if you've got a group 73 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: of what sounds like seven kids, you know, they look 74 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: incredibly young walking around the city. What of the night 75 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: did this happen at. 76 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: It's happening really between seven thirty, like after seven thirty, 77 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: so the attack after seven thirty eight, after eight o'clock. Yeah, 78 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: so that's you know, and. 79 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: Like you think to yourself, why is a group of 80 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: young kids walking around the streets anyway? I mean, I 81 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: know that it's not late late at night, but it's 82 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: still you know, it's still not not a great thing. 83 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: It's a school night. And then for them to be 84 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: armed with a knife, and I think you mean, I'm 85 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 1: assuming that you meet a Stanley knife, the ones that 86 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: cut those boxes open. It's really it's dangerous, but it 87 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: is also frightening for the staff. 88 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 2: It's so frightening. They're very scared. And we are suffering, 89 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: you know, and we have we don't have because we're 90 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 2: thinking all the time about these kids, you know. I 91 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 2: mean when we are home, when we are anywhere, we 92 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 2: need to think about it. We need to go to 93 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 2: the shop to look after the boys, to ask them 94 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: what if they come or you know, we're very scared 95 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 2: at them. We have families, We need to give time 96 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 2: to families. We have other things that the businesses, you know, 97 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 2: So it's it's getting worse for us. You know, we 98 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 2: are getting a mental issues. You know. I mean if 99 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 2: you say, like if you if you catch kids and 100 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 2: do something, they will have mental issues. But what about us? 101 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: Nobody thinks about us. You know, if one of us 102 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 2: is gets skilled, so who's who? What about them? But 103 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: nobody cares about us. They just care about their kids. Right. 104 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: But what they're doing, that's not a kid thing, you know, 105 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 2: it's not a normal thing. But but before before they 106 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: used to come, they still drinks and shape that's fine, right, 107 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 2: like that was not a big thing. But now they 108 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: start coming inside the inside in behind the counter, they 109 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 2: jump the counters. They're coming with their knives. It's worse. 110 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: This is a serious problem. This is not a normal thing. 111 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: Now, no you're sport on. Yeah, yeah, it's not normal. 112 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,119 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what. You know, the community cares 113 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 1: about you guys. Everybody out there listening this morning is 114 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: going to be thinking exactly what you are. That it 115 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: is not normal, It is not okay, and something needs 116 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 1: to bloody well change. It's you know, we cannot have 117 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: a situation where there is kids running around the streets 118 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: in our capital city with knives, threatening staff, you know, 119 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: in a business like yours. 120 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, and police should put some extra effort on this event, 121 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 2: on these things, because I mean, I know the police is. 122 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: It's good. Sometimes they're helpful, you know, they help as 123 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: much as they can. But they should put they should 124 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: put extra effort on this incidence, on these sort of incidents, 125 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 2: on these people, on these kids, you know, because it's 126 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 2: not normally I would say, no. 127 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: It's most certainly not. Yeah, it's most certainly not. And 128 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 1: look it's on top of obviously the other anti social 129 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,559 Speaker 1: behavior issues that we're seeing around the city as well. 130 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: Osmond last night, it's my understanding that a few businesses 131 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: were tormented by these kids the same as what yours were. 132 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: Is that is that what you're being told? Yeah? Do 133 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: you know? Yeah? Do you happen to know where else 134 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: had had these kids go in and threatened staff as well? 135 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, First they went to the down twenty four to 136 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 2: seven store on the Mitchell Street, Then they came to 137 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 2: the twenty four to seven shop on the Knacky Street, 138 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 2: Then they went to the minim Nucky Street. There is 139 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: another small shop opposite to our shop. And then they 140 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 2: went to the vintage sellers, the bottle shop, and they 141 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: still they just told to wine bottles and then they 142 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 2: just run away. 143 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: Now, Osmond, I know that you mentioned just a short 144 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: time ago that you know, you feel as though the 145 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: authorities that everybody needs to look at things a little 146 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: bit differently. Maybe people need to be banned from the city. 147 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: You know, those listening this morning, how big an impact 148 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: is this having on you, your staff and being able 149 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: to run a business in our city. 150 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: It's it's a huge it's it's a big problem now, 151 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: you know. I mean, of course it's it's it's because 152 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: we need to put extra people. Now, you know, it 153 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: caused us extra money. Like a couple of months ago, 154 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: they came, they break the window and it cost us 155 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: five thousand dollars and we're losing so much money and 156 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 2: we are losing our employees. So yeah, it's it's it's 157 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: getting harder and harder every day. Now. Yeah. We need 158 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 2: we need, we need someone to do something. 159 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: Osmond, I appreciate you speaking to me this morning. I 160 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: know that it's not easy. Please pass on, you know, 161 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: to your employees that we hope that they are okay. 162 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: I'm really sorry, you know, to hear that this has 163 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: happened to you guys, and you're so right. Something has 164 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: got to change. Yeah, definitely, Yeah, usband, keep in contact. 165 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: We'll keep in contact with you. I appreciate you speaking 166 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: to me this morning. Thank you,