1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fearlessly Failing Hot Seat. 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 2: In this app, I fire rapid. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: Questions at one of our fearlessly failing guests. 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 2: PS. 5 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm not so good 6 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: at the rapid part. I get too intrigued by the 7 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: awesome answers. Now a new app is going to drop 8 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: every Wednesday, so enjoy this shortest style episode of fearlessly 9 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: Failing Hot Seat. 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: Welcome to the hot Seat, joe Haul, thank you. 11 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm a bit nervous. 12 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: Oh, don't be Would you say you prefer sweet or savory? 13 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 3: Definitely savory. I have no sweet. 14 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: Tooth or whatsoever, like like cheese, salty things. 15 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, just anything savory. Like in the news room when 16 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 4: it's anyone's birthday and we have cake, they love cake, 17 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 4: and when it's mine they go, oh, Joey's birth they 18 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 4: had played of nachos with a candle in the middle. 19 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: That sounds amazing. Actually, if you could have a superpower, 20 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: what would it be? 21 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 3: Oh? Gee, I know it's tricky. It is tricky, isn't it. 22 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 4: I think I would love to fly because I have 23 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 4: a real fear of flying, So I think that would 24 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 4: be wonderful. Because I think if I had the ability 25 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 4: to fly, then I wouldn't be fearful of Yeah, that's. 26 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: A good one. Do you have a favorite city? 27 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 3: Melbourne? 28 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: Of course I do. 29 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 4: You're going to say, I think it's so much better 30 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 4: than anywhere else in the country. 31 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:32,839 Speaker 2: It's a good city's. 32 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 3: Beautiful and you know, like, yeah, I just I am 33 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 3: a Melbourne girl. 34 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 4: Great coffee. I just think there's so much about this 35 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 4: city that is just amazing. I mean, obviously they're beautiful 36 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 4: cities in other parts of the world, and I visit 37 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 4: my son in Paris. It's amazing and Rome. Rome is 38 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 4: one of my favorite cities. But you know, you just 39 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,559 Speaker 4: come back here and you think, oh god, this is good. 40 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: It wins all the like it's top city, isn't it 41 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: One of the top cities, most livable? 42 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 4: They talk about it, you know, and we tend to 43 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 4: get in the top three or four most often. You know, 44 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 4: we've got I think we've got the top city. 45 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 3: And I look. 46 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 4: My oldest as I said, has lived overseas in Europe 47 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 4: for twelve years and he says, this is the best 48 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 4: city in the world. 49 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 2: Here. Now it is good. 50 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: It is it's such a Yeah, it's little and like 51 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: I said, coffee, but also if you're into culture, sport, art, theater. 52 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 3: It's got everything. 53 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 2: It's all year. 54 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the beaches, beach got all. 55 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 2: That was my next question. Do you have a favorite 56 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 2: nature spot? I do. 57 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 3: I love the beach. Yeah, it is really nice. 58 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 4: I totally get why my daughter has done this move 59 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 4: just I mean, I couldn't live there permanently because I 60 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 4: love Melbourne too much. Holiday but it's a great holiday spot. 61 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 4: And you know, you drive down the highway when I 62 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 4: go visit her, which I visit all the time. You know, 63 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 4: you drive down that highway and you just feel the 64 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 4: city tension kind of oh rashing off you. And and 65 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 4: just honestly, those beaches up there, and you know, just 66 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 4: a walk around the National insane so beautiful. She's taken 67 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 4: me some really beautiful spots up there and little little 68 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 4: nook she's found and I just just divine, so gorgeous 69 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 4: where people take their dogs. And yeah, so I'm neuser 70 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 4: is definitely a wonderful part of this country in. 71 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: Nature's It would be what's your favorite quality about yourself? 72 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 4: I don't know that it's probably my best. I like 73 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 4: to think I've got it but it's my favorite quality 74 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 4: in a human being, and I think it carries you 75 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 4: endlessly in life. And I think I'm really attracted and 76 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 4: love the people that have this quality, and that's humility. 77 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 4: I think it can just in every aspect. It can 78 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 4: carry you. And if you've just always approached whatever it 79 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 4: is in life with a bit of humility, then it's 80 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 4: just going to you know, it'll get you everywhere. 81 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: I think I love that you've definitely got humility. 82 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 4: I like to I like to think I have anyway, 83 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 4: because I think it's a wonderful, wonderful characteristic. 84 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely you do this. This question does stump a 85 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: lot of people. It's so funny. Favorite movie. 86 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 2: Oh see, it's hard because. 87 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: We've got genres, we've got time a year to absolute 88 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: all time favorite. 89 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 2: If you do have an all time fave. 90 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 4: See, I've got, I got like, I've got I've got 91 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 4: five Oh hit me? Okay, So, and I just can't 92 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 4: put them in any particular order. But weirdly I love 93 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 4: up the movie. Yes, I just out great, absolutely love 94 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 4: that movie. Yeah, in terms of crying, Oh my god, 95 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 4: Pretty Woman, just I've seen it fifty million. 96 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: Do you know I watched an interview with Julia Robertson 97 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: That dress was literally a ten dollar dress from you 98 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: know that iconic one with the blue and white and 99 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: the costume desired at the bottom. One half was black 100 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: and they switched it to blue, but it was like 101 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: a ten dollar dress. 102 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 3: How was that amazing? Yeah, it doesn't surprise me though. 103 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 3: Goodwill hunting. Ah, Yeah, how do you like them? Apples? 104 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? 105 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 3: Great movie. I will go. 106 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 4: I put, honestly put pulp fiction because I think you 107 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 4: have to have one of Tarantine. I love Tarantina, so 108 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 4: I love pulp fiction. And then, oh god, this is 109 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:24,799 Speaker 4: a good combo. 110 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 3: This is a very good bit of diversity in there. 111 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is good. 112 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 3: God. 113 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 2: You know you'll be driving home and you'll be like. 114 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 4: I know, I know, I know, and then you know, 115 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 4: like I probably, I don't know. Would you put a 116 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 4: Titanic in there? I'm not sure. 117 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 2: I mean, it's quintessentially iconic. The Leo one is probably 118 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 2: Romeo and Juliet. 119 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 3: Yes, actually probably that baz lerman. 120 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I am a movie, but we all are in 121 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 4: our house, so it's it's it is very hard to. 122 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 2: Know you've done one perfectly. The next song is the 123 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: next the next question, is just this our favorite song? 124 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 4: I just go I'd say Fleetwood Mac anything. I just 125 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 4: love so good. 126 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: If you went to a desert island and you can 127 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: only take three things, what would they be? And I'll 128 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: take family members and kiddos because we can't we can't 129 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 1: play favorites. 130 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 3: No, not so it can't be a human being. 131 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 2: We'll make it items. 132 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 4: Okay, Well, I am a bit addicted to my phone, 133 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 4: so I would probably. 134 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 2: You're so good at it. You're so good at insta. 135 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 3: Oh I love Instagram. 136 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: I love it. 137 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 4: That's because when you're talking about career shifts and things 138 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 4: like that, like if I hadn't been a reporter, a journalist. 139 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 4: So I love taking photos. So when my son years ago, 140 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 4: I said to me, mom, there's this new app you're 141 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 4: going to love. 142 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 3: And I said, what are you doing? 143 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,679 Speaker 4: And he's taking photo on the beach of a diet 144 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 4: cocaine and the sand in the background, and he said, 145 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 4: this thing called Instagram. You love it because it's about 146 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 4: taking photos and then people like them. I'm like, oh 147 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 4: my god, that sounds. 148 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:05,799 Speaker 2: Signed me up. 149 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 4: So and I've honestly really contemplated recent times actually doing 150 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 4: a photography course and you know, potentially doing having a 151 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 4: bit of a sight hustle because yeah, you know, I 152 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 4: really love taking photos and I thought, you know, maybe 153 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 4: that's something I could do. Yeah, you know, and all 154 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 4: these you know, PR companies I know, and the contexts 155 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 4: I've got, maybe I could take some photos for them. 156 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 4: So I've actually been you know, toying with that ideas, 157 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 4: so love it. I probably take my phone. Yeah, you 158 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 4: probably need some water on a desert island, wouldn't Yeah, 159 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 4: I feel like you've got to say hydro. I'm not 160 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 4: a sun block person, Like I'm really not good. I 161 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 4: don't you know, I'm terrible in that regard. So I 162 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 4: probably wouldn't take sunblock. I'd probably want some oysters. 163 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: Oh good choice. Oh you speak in my language. 164 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 3: And then if you've got oysters, you really need CHAMBI. 165 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, is there a Martini there? 166 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 3: So if I have my phone and happy days, upset. 167 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: Final question for you, do you have a mantra or 168 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: motto that you kind of live by? 169 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 4: I did watch some I have watched your podcast, and 170 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 4: I heard other people and they said some really wonderful things, 171 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 4: and I don't know that I do have a motto. 172 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 4: But I guess I guess, like you asked me before, 173 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 4: a bad advice, I think have a go at everything. 174 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 4: I think maybe the best one is I think it 175 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 4: was Keanu Reeves of all people that said this, but 176 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 4: he said, far better to regret something you've done than 177 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 4: something you didn't do. And I think that's so true. 178 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 4: Like you can kick yourself for having done something and oh, 179 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 4: you messed up there, or you marked it up, or 180 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 4: I wish I hadn't done that or gone down that 181 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 4: path or whatever, but the idea of not having done 182 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 4: it way worse. What ifs I just don't sit well 183 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 4: with me. 184 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 2: Same. I'm always like, I just don't want regret. 185 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: I really don't want to be down the line and 186 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: be like, no, I wish I did that thing, I 187 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: wish I tried that thing. 188 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 2: And so I always go just leave no stone unturned. 189 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 4: Exactly exactly, because I think it's just easier to live 190 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 4: with that, Oh I wish I hadn't done that. 191 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, then the other the fomo Yeah big time. Joe Haul, 192 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: You're wonderful, Thank you so much for doing this