1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Quillan would bite sized got a baby on the way, Yes, 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah, Dan may very exonic stuff for ex 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: sonic stuff. But I have to admit one of the 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: things that scares me most about children is that they 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: will spend my money on things. 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 2: And now that is inevitable. Just get over that. 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 3: How dare you tell me to get over that? 8 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: That's why you're never going to have children. 9 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 2: Don't tell me to get over Once you have a child, 10 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: your money is gone. 11 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: Yes, so look seventeen a kid has spent seventeen hundred 12 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 1: dollars of one of their parents' moneys at a Walmart, 13 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: which I believe is a department store in the US. 14 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: Yes, lovely, lovely store. Get everything from Walmart. 15 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: I think these days it must be pretty common that 16 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: a kid spends your card online. 17 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: Well, given they use the parents iPads and phones and goods, 18 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 2: all your credit card details are linked up. It couldn't 19 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: be easier. Yeah, tap, tap tap, You've got yourself a 20 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,639 Speaker 2: Bonzie tree or you know whatever the kid was looking. 21 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, if you were a mini mister 22 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: mcgo to. The kid was two that spent seventeen hundred 23 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: dollars at Walmart. 24 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 2: And I can see his tap and you buy the stuff. 25 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: How easy is buying stuff online? 26 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 4: Now? 27 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? Relatively easy, woulds well said? 28 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 2: Thank you man. 29 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: Now, so what we're going to do just to test 30 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: whether this is a thing that parents are a afraid 31 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: of but b could conceivably happen in a country which 32 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: is not as thick as America is. We're going to 33 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: get someone on the phone here who currently has kids. 34 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 3: So I've got Ashley who joins the boys. 35 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 4: Good a, Ashley Audi, how are you going? 36 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: Very well? Thank you very very well. I'm particularly excited 37 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: about this. I always like people willing to stitch up 38 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: their partner. You've got a You've got a little boy, Thomas, 39 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:39,559 Speaker 1: Is that right? 40 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, he's five. 41 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: Now you've set yourself up what I like to call 42 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: a nuclear situation because Tom plays PlayStation but you've also 43 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: linked your card to the PlayStation. 44 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 4: Yes. Well, Tom's dad is almost like a five year 45 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 4: old in that he's a chested with PlayStations. And why 46 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 4: would you want to go to your wallet to get 47 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 4: your credit card when if you just save it online? Wow? 48 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 3: True, it's true. 49 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: We all like convenience. 50 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: So Tom's dad, what's what's Tom's dad's name. What's your 51 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: partner's name, Peter? So Peter lets his child play on 52 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: the toy that he hears his card link to. 53 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 2: Yep, So what sort of stuff can you buy on 54 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 2: the on the PlayStation? 55 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 4: Online? You can buy like entire games for starters, so 56 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 4: hundreds of dollars worth of games. But also I think 57 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:30,679 Speaker 4: things like costume packs or expansion things. One of the 58 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 4: like one of the Marvel one of the Marvel games 59 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 4: that they play, like Lego Marvel. You can buy different 60 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 4: Spider Man costumes and Iron Man costumes. And my son's 61 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 4: pretty obsessed with with all things Marvels. 62 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 3: So how much is it? How much is a costume? 63 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 3: How much is one of these costumes? 64 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 4: Do you are you're testing me now? I personally don't 65 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 4: buy them. I don't know. I feel like, okay, you've 66 00:02:54,560 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 4: discovered my secret. I'm guessing a costume packed about fifty 67 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 4: about fifteen bucks per pack. But there's like a million 68 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 4: Marvel characters, so it's ridiculous how many like costume pack 69 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 4: things there are online for these things. I mean, these 70 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 4: boys that play these games, I don't care what they 71 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 4: look like in real life, but the character on the 72 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 4: other hand, I have a million costumes. 73 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: Would have roared from PlayStation. That is incredible. That's just 74 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: no costumes. 75 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 4: You know, if you added all of those costume packs up, 76 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 4: one for every Marvel character, certainly start to get pretty exy. 77 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: So and at the end of the day, we've got 78 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: a five year old shopping online. He might buy himself 79 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: one hundred Spider Man outfits. 80 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: Let's do that. 81 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 5: Probably a great. 82 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 3: All right, we're a good spot. Okay, we're gonna call 83 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 3: Peter right up next. I'm gonna call him as I don't. 84 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: Know PlayStation PlayStation, PlayStation, PlayStation movie the one's calling. I 85 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: just want to confume I've got an order for a 86 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: thousand different superhero costumes. 87 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 4: Just to really stitch in boys. This has happened once before. 88 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 4: We had to apply to PlayStation to get a refund. 89 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 3: He did you want to try? 90 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 4: And yeah, if you want to try and work in 91 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 4: like something to do with you know, we've already given 92 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 4: a refund. I like it. 93 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: What did what did Thomas buy the first time? 94 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 4: I think they have more costume path Okay. 95 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: So he's got priers in the costume game. 96 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 3: Amazing, so many, amazing. All right, stay with us, Ashley, 97 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 3: we'll call him right up next. 98 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: Honestly, nothing more terrifying than your kid spending your money online. 99 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: We were just saying before, you're a couple of clicks 100 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: away from buying anything. 101 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 3: In the world these days. 102 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, with the. 103 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:33,119 Speaker 1: After pays and the zip pays and the flash flash mobs. 104 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 3: I was going to say, but that's a different thing. 105 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: You know. 106 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 2: Well I did that. We all demand convenience, but it's 107 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 2: a double edged sword, isn't it. 108 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 3: What's that? 109 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 2: Well, you wanted to be convenient, tap tap tap, and 110 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 2: then the security right down in that basement there, and 111 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 2: that's why kids can do it. And two year old 112 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 2: in America he paid for seventeen hundred dollars weather stuff 113 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: at Walmart. Yes he did, all right, And now we 114 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: are trying to pull one over. 115 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: What's his name, Peter, Yeah, we've got Ashley, who joins 116 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: us again. 117 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 3: Ashley, thank you again for stitching up your husband. 118 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: Any day, your five year old Thomas plays the PlayStation 119 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: that your husband also plays. His card details are on 120 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: the machine, and we're about to call him and. 121 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 3: Convince him that his child has spent a lot. 122 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: Of money on digital avatars on his PlayStation. All right, 123 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to We're going to call Peter now. 124 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call him Peter Spits, Peter spits PlayStation, Peter spits, 125 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: Thomas spits. 126 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 3: I can't remember what his name was, Peter. 127 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 4: Have we Peter speaking? 128 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: Oh? 129 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 3: Yeah today? 130 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: Is that mister Spitz speaking? Sorry, sorry, I've got the 131 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: wrong name. 132 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 4: Here? 133 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: Is it McCallum, McCallum, Peter mckollum, Yes, beautiful, Good day mate. 134 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: My name is Thomas Jeffrey. I'm just calling from this afternoon. 135 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 5: How are you? 136 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 3: Are you beautiful? Really well? Thanks mate. 137 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: Look, I'm just giving you a call because I've got 138 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: quite a sizeable order here on your account essentially. And 139 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: the reason this got flagged is I know that you 140 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: guys went through this process a little while ago where 141 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: we gifted you a refund. I've got an order here 142 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: for an inordinate amount of digital avatars on your PlayStations. 143 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 5: So digital avatars. 144 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, costume packs is probably what you'd probably know 145 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: them as. Someone's really gone done the ringer on the Marvels. 146 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: I'm not a huge Marvel guy, but you know there's 147 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:37,119 Speaker 1: about six Captain Americas that he's bought here. He's gone 148 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: for the Spidery guy as well. There's about five of 149 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: them that have been bought, and these are all sort 150 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: of fifteen bucks a pop, and that goes on for 151 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 1: about twenty different costume packs. So obviously fifteen dollars a pack. 152 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: He's gone for about five on each character. And there's 153 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: about twenty characters in the Marvel universe. I'm not sure 154 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: if you're across your Marvels or if you watched Infinity War. 155 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: But they threw in oh god, you know Brae Larson 156 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: what she called. 157 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 5: Again, Captain Marvel? 158 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 3: There you go. 159 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, so she jumped on. So you know they currently 160 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they're suddenly jumping up and they're 161 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: coming out of the woodwork. Really there's Fat Thor as well, 162 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: so he got thrown. There's another fifteen bucks there all 163 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: the different Spider's enter the Spider and you know, you've 164 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: got your Toby Maguire Spider Man, you've got your you 165 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: know that crap one that he did in the middle. 166 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: But look, I don't need to go into it, but yeah, yeah, 167 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: Andrew g do you like that one? 168 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:29,559 Speaker 3: Dideo? 169 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: I wasn't huge on it, but anyway, look, just to 170 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: let you know you have been charged for them. 171 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 5: And what's the total amount. 172 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: It comes to fifteen hundred dollars fift undred. Well, they're 173 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: fifteen dollars a pack avatars on the costume packs. 174 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'm assuming you can refund it again, and 175 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 5: that's why you're calling. 176 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 3: Incorrect. Incorrect? 177 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 5: No, right, Okay, So this I assume has been flagged 178 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 5: with you because, similar to banks, it has been something 179 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 5: that has been seen as some sort of odd transaction. 180 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 3: That's right. 181 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, well, if I mean totally honest with you, 182 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: it's been flagged with me because your wife Ashley told 183 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: me about it. 184 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 5: Did you know on the Marvel game there is no 185 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 5: Captain Marvel in there yet? 186 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 4: You lost me there? O. 187 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: God, did I think that Frank care would fall down 188 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: into Captain Marvel reference. 189 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 5: The voice was a little bit odd as well. 190 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 2: I think the voice was changing a little bit as 191 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 2: the call went on with. 192 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 3: The Frank guys. I have a guide, thanks, Actuallyores have 193 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 3: more of the boys. 194 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: On the full podcast. 195 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 3: Just scroll up.