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Speaker 3: For comprehensive political coverage impacting Territorians, the only voice you

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Speaker 3: need is Katie Woolf on three sixty remaining one hundred

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Speaker 4: You're listening to Mix one oh four point nine three sixty. Now,

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Speaker 4: obviously we've had lots of wet weather and this has

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Speaker 4: it does seem also be having an impact on some

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Speaker 4: of our water services. Now joining me on the line

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Speaker 4: is well from Power and Water. It's Eric Boyle, the

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Speaker 5: Good morning to you, Eric, Good morning Katie.

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Speaker 6: How are you yeah, really well? Now? Eric, has this wet.

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Speaker 5: Unfortunately or fortunately? Yes, Look, this is a time of

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Speaker 4: Goodness mate, what kind of impact does that then have

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Speaker 5: So look, we size our series system actually three to

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Speaker 4: Okay, well, we did receive a couple of phone calls

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Speaker 6: I'll take you to those. Firstly, let's have a.

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Speaker 4: Listen to what Shane had to say on the show yesterday.

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Speaker 7: Water mine keeps blowing in long Air Street. It's eighteenth

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Speaker 4: What kind of impact is that having on you and

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Speaker 7: How would you feel while at the front of your

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Speaker 5: Look, that's it's absolutely frustrating, not for the customers, absolutely

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Speaker 4: Well, that is good to hear, so how soon, So

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Speaker 5: So our cruise are right right now, we're looking at

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Speaker 5: The year exactly. And with the with the gron being

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Speaker 4: All right, Eric, I'll take you to another call that

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Speaker 8: Of yours that are really missing going over to Ballei

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Speaker 5: So again, as we discussed just at the beginning, Katie,

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Speaker 4: So it could be that some of us in our homes,

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Speaker 4: And so, Eric, is it happening in a few locations.

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Speaker 5: There's probably about seven that we are where I'm going

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Speaker 6: And so Eric, I know it.

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Speaker 4: you know, some of that effluent, you know, like out

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Speaker 5: So I can just assure you customers has shared the

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Speaker 4: I suppose cold comfort though to you know, to some

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And we we have a we have a staff

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Speaker 5: because that's the reason why we do those rounds to

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Speaker 5: those areas are disinfair pitten cleaned up. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, Eric I do want to ask you. We know

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Speaker 4: this obviously we've had so much wet weather. What does

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Speaker 5: I guess that's that's the flip side of the coin

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Speaker 5: forty seven, sorry, sixty five at me, I've got up

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Speaker 5: to sixty seven percent today. I haven't check this.

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Speaker 4: Morning, okay, so it's about sixty five to sixty seven percent.

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Speaker 6: Gee.

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Speaker 4: That's good comparatively to previous wet seasons, isn't it.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely it's fantastic and hopefully it keeps on heading in

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Speaker 5: the right direction.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 4: Eric Boyle, the Senior Manager Service Delivery Water Services at

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Speaker 4: Power and Water, I really appreciate your time this morning

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Speaker 4: and coming on here to answer those listener questions.

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Speaker 5: I really appreciate your time.

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Speaker 6: Thanks very much, Kate, Thanks so much. Eric,