1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: Now. We know that over recent years there has been 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: so much discussion about dan Murphy's and will it go ahead, 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: won't it go ahead? We have caught up with obviously 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Endeavor Drinks and spoken more about the I guess the 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: open you know, the open door or the open event 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: thing that they've got going at the moment, open house. 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: I believe they're calling it for the community to go 8 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: in and have a look at what the Dan Murphy's 9 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: would look like when it does or if it does 10 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: open here in Darwin. But we know that there has 11 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: over the years as well been opponents to it moving forward. 12 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: Some of our indigenous health organizations have concerns about the 13 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: impact that it's going to have. But joining me on 14 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: the line right now is well one of the I 15 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: believe it is the chairwoman of the GWA Darren Inky Association. 16 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: Hopefully I've pronounced that right, and it administers Colour Luck 17 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: and min Maha Park communities. Helen's secretary joins me on 18 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: the line. Good morning, Helen, Good morning, Helen, thanks for 19 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: your time. I spoke quite a while back. Where are 20 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: you as at the moment in terms of whether you 21 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: think Dan Murphy should or shouldn't go ahead. 22 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: Well, we feel that Dan Murphy should go ahead. We've 23 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 2: given them out support. We've been dealing with him for 24 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 2: the past couple of years in regards to what our 25 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: concerns are, and we have consulted with both of our 26 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: communities and our members are in support of it. 27 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: Are your communities dry or are they ones where you 28 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: are able to have alcohol? 29 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 2: Well, when you look at it, since the intervention in 30 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: our communities are supposed to be restricted communities, but you're 31 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 2: not going to stop people purchasing alcohol. I mean they 32 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 2: will continue to do it whether they drink in the 33 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: community or outside. But why we allow our people to 34 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: come in and do you drink drink alcohol? He speaks. 35 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: A lot of them choose to a lot of them work, 36 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: They're entitled to have a drink after work. We have 37 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: people that our drinkers, and they will continue to bring 38 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: drinks in. It's about their safety. We're rather our members 39 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 2: in the community than outside, anti social behaving, getting hits 40 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: on the road, you know, having violence outside. So for 41 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 2: their safety we allow them. And we don't have a 42 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 2: lot of people in our communities that consume alcohol. We 43 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: have strict regulations with our tendancy agreement and yes it 44 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: is a restricted area, but we have done alcohol management 45 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: plans that we have been consulting with the government department 46 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 2: on allowing us to put it in place. But until 47 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 2: the federal government hands the liquorac back to the territory government, 48 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: we cannot put those in place. 49 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: And so Helen like, have Dan Murphy's consulted with you 50 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: guys and are you satisfied with what they're saying they're 51 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: going to do. 52 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 2: Yes, we've been consulting with Dan Murphy for the past 53 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: three and a half years. They've listened to our concerns 54 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: on what we've been trying to achieve with the territory 55 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: government since the nine eighty nineteen ninety time address concerns 56 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: not just in our communities but out in the mainstream 57 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 2: communities as well. 58 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: And in terms of those concerns, I mean, what are 59 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: they and what would you guys, what would you like 60 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: to be able to sort of be doing in terms 61 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: of your alcohol management plan and the way that you 62 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: might be able to do things a bit differently. 63 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: Well with our alcohol management plans, we've done basically two 64 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 2: with the Northern Territory Justice Department and with the in 65 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: coordination Center which is now Prime Minister and Cabinet. We've 66 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: done those back in two thousand and six. Now we 67 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: deal with our members of the community that do drink. 68 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: When we have visitors that come into our community, we're 69 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: very strict with the visitors where they are only allowed 70 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: to stay here for about a week, which we will 71 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 2: not put up with any problems in the community. Our 72 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: council members and members of the community are very vocal 73 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: with visitors. They respect that we're trying to do programs. 74 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: We're trying to put programs in place for our male, 75 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: female and our children as well, programs that get them 76 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 2: to understand about health issues about alcohol, drugs. We've already 77 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: put all that in place. We're just waiting for a 78 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: chance for us to actually start doing the program. But 79 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 2: we being restricted area under the intervention, and I think 80 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: I've commented it to you before on radio, that's discrimination 81 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: because we all dre on people just because we live 82 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: in town camps. We shouldn't be discriminated and rules put 83 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: on place that you know, we are Indigenous people and 84 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 2: this should imply to us because we live in town 85 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: camp we have rights too. 86 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: Do you get annoyed with others trying to speak for 87 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: you guys, you know, not only on the Damn Murphy issue, 88 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: but on other issues. 89 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 2: Yes we do when it's concerning the Gualadarn Incantations land, 90 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 2: whether it's leases or licensing or anything we're trying to 91 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: achieve to create economic development for our organization and our people. 92 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: You have a lot of people object in regards to 93 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,119 Speaker 2: the Dan Murphy. These people that have been vocal saying 94 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: that the three Indigenous communities object, they haven't consulted with us. 95 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 2: You know, yes, we do have Indigenous advocate agencies. I've 96 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 2: worked for Abnual people, but these people never consulted with us. 97 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: They didn't understand, you know, they haven't spoken to us 98 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 2: in regards to what our concerns are, what we've tried 99 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: to put in place before even Dan Murphy's coming, about alcohol, 100 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 2: drug health issues, our children's program. No one's consulted us, 101 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 2: so they are not our voice. And that same goes 102 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 2: with the people around Australia advocating using three Abnual communities 103 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: to object to a mega liquor store. We've got so 104 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 2: many corner bottleshops, we have so many drive through is now, 105 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: so one more was not going to make a different 106 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: But it's about communicating with the avenual community. And no 107 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: one in regards to the Indigenous Advocate Agency have even 108 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 2: spoken to us. They haven't asked us what our concerns 109 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,799 Speaker 2: are and how we can tin and work things at 110 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: No one has ever done that. We've always spoken in 111 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: regards to GDA and our communities. We are our own voice. 112 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: We don't let people speak for us, We speak for us. 113 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 1: Good on you and as you should Helen. Can I 114 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: ask you how are things at the Color Luck community 115 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: and also at Mimha, you know, for those out there 116 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: listening that have maybe never been out there, you know, 117 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: are things traveling along quite well? 118 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, An we're working with the government to achieve 119 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 2: some other goals that the association one that's going to 120 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 2: help in other Indigenous people that come on our lands 121 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 2: here and Darwin. 122 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Helen, I really appreciate your time this morning. 123 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: I always do second time on the show, and no 124 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: doubt we'll have you on again soon. Thank you so 125 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: much for having a chat with me and my listeners today. 126 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: Thanks Helen, thank you very much. Okay, by now that's 127 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: Helen's secretary there. She is from the GALA darren Ink Association, 128 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: and they are, of course, they're the association which administers 129 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: Karla Luck and Minmarra Park communities and you know, certainly 130 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: very vocal there she doesn't want other people speaking for 131 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: those communities. And it sounds as though fairly annoyed as well, 132 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: you know, with the suggestion that all three of the 133 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: of the indigenous communities are against against the Woolworts liquor 134 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: store coming to the Northern Territory.