WEBVTT - Ask Uncut - Back ups, Bills and Bed Side Manner

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<v Speaker 1>Life on Cut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country whose

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<v Speaker 1>elders past and present.

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<v Speaker 2>Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land. This episode was

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<v Speaker 2>recorded on de rug Wallamuta Land.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life

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<v Speaker 3>on Cut. Laura, I know if someone slipped or something

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<v Speaker 3>in a drink? What is wrong with you?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm in such a good brood, which I shouldn't be.

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<v Speaker 4>I should you should be, but this isn't. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think this is a good mood. I fact, you're loopy,

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<v Speaker 4>like I've lost the put.

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<v Speaker 3>It finally happened after four and a half years.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh oh wait, you think you haven't lost a plot

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<v Speaker 4>before this moment? That is in correct, That is entirely inaccurate.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I had a real doozy of the day yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a lot of tears. And then you know

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<v Speaker 2>when you're upset and you have like a bad day.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll explain the bad day another day. Today's not the day.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't bread crumb You're crazy and not tell anyone exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>I just had a bad day. God for ages, it's

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<v Speaker 3>like for hours.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, when you've had that low, the only

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<v Speaker 2>way to go, the only place to go after that

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<v Speaker 2>is up. And so now I'm on the manic high. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's where I up and.

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<v Speaker 3>Loopy you've gone.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on the way up, but then you've taken a

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<v Speaker 1>bypass and then you're like doing a little circles on

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<v Speaker 1>the way up.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you're going to go back and continue on

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<v Speaker 3>your journey. Well, I'm having a good time anyway. Welcome

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<v Speaker 3>back to the podcast everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>It is ask gun cut where we answer you deep

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<v Speaker 2>your dark and you're burning questions.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you haven't sat in that moment, like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad you haven't sat in yesterday because a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people get sad and then they can't get out of it.

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<v Speaker 3>But you shot right out.

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<v Speaker 4>Nah. I don't stay sad for long. I just get

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<v Speaker 4>down there, mushrooms. I flirt with the sadness.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a bad day, and then usually the next

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<v Speaker 2>day I wake up and I'm like, cool, I'm glad

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<v Speaker 2>we got that out of a system.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, every so often a good cry man, it's a reset.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a recent Well.

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<v Speaker 4>I knows you got a new laptop because you dropped

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<v Speaker 4>yours in a bucket of water.

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<v Speaker 2>I did, if you listened to Tuesday's episode. I have

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned this on my suck, but I don't think i've

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<v Speaker 2>really explained the depths of what losing a laptop to

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<v Speaker 2>a bottle of baby fucking bottle does to your soul,

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<v Speaker 2>like my entire laptop. So if you miss it on

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<v Speaker 2>the second suite of Tuesdays, when we're flying back from Byron, Lola,

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<v Speaker 2>she's I mean, man, she shouldn't have.

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<v Speaker 3>A bottle anymore. The kids.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what, even at thirty, you have a drink bottle,

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<v Speaker 4>like it's okay to have a drink bottle over.

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<v Speaker 3>The problem is it's not one here. It's not a

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<v Speaker 3>frank green drink bottle.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a baby bottle, like it's a bottle that an

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<v Speaker 2>infant should have.

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<v Speaker 3>She's too old for it, and I know she's too

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<v Speaker 3>old for it.

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<v Speaker 2>They're the bottles that leak because I have a little

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<v Speaker 2>teet and so when the air pressure comes it pushes

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<v Speaker 2>the water.

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<v Speaker 3>I know all this. I know she also has a dummy.

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<v Speaker 3>I just can't be fucked.

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<v Speaker 2>Take it off opening yourself up here. I know you

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<v Speaker 2>can judge my terrible parenting. I don't care the bottle

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<v Speaker 2>and the dummy thing. I was like, when she actually

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<v Speaker 2>turns three, I'll take them offer. And I know it's

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<v Speaker 2>really old for her to still have a bottle. She

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<v Speaker 2>barely uses it. She just carries it around. She just

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<v Speaker 2>likes having the option of it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, she just eat all right, won't get we've

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<v Speaker 4>Jalola's drinking habits here.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Makes it feel secure, I know, because I know there's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be mums listening to this who were like,

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<v Speaker 2>what fourteen thousand day old has a has a drink bottle?

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<v Speaker 3>What fourteen thousand and a half day old?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I had the bottle in my bag. It

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<v Speaker 2>exploded with the air pressure of the cabin, you know. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>it went all through my laptop. Matt spent two days

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<v Speaker 2>trying to revive my laptop. Then he'd put it in

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<v Speaker 2>a box covered in rice. He then had the hair

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<v Speaker 2>dryer out and was trying to dry it up. Very

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<v Speaker 2>optimistic of him, it really was. And he was like,

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<v Speaker 2>don't worry, baby, I'm going to save this because it

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<v Speaker 2>had everything I needed in it. Like, there's so much

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<v Speaker 2>of my life that's in that laptop.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think the old like rice in a bucket.

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<v Speaker 1>Thing usually works when maybe you've spilt a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>on a phone or something. But like, it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>throwing your laptop in the ocean and getting it back

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<v Speaker 1>out and being like, throw some rice on.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't quite work.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, look, i'd like to confirm it did not work.

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<v Speaker 2>I was optimistic. I thought things would go my way.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, every so often the universe throws you a bone.

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<v Speaker 2>Not today, my friend narrator, it did not go her way.

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<v Speaker 2>It did not go my way. I ended up having

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<v Speaker 2>to go to the Apple store and I got a

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<v Speaker 2>new laptop, which is very sexy. It is sexy, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a nice like it looks good, but it's pretty useless

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<v Speaker 2>at the moment because all the things I need are

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<v Speaker 2>not inside this. They're inside the laptop that's on my

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<v Speaker 2>kitchen bench covered in ros.

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<v Speaker 4>It is like being reborn, isn't It's like when you

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<v Speaker 4>get a new phone or in your laptop and you're

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<v Speaker 4>so used to knowing where everything is, what you've got

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<v Speaker 4>on there, and getting a new one, it's a rebirth.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I'm so naked. I don't know where anything is. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>it's very inconvenient timing, but that's okay. Maybe that added

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<v Speaker 2>to why I was like so sad yesterday. Can I

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<v Speaker 2>also just like, take this moment, everyone listening, wherever you are,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're sitting in your car, if you're on the bus,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're sitting at home, maybe you're playing this through

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<v Speaker 2>your laptop. If you have ever had the thought over

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<v Speaker 2>the last couple of months or weeks, god, I really

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<v Speaker 2>need to back that up. But you didn't do it

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<v Speaker 2>because we've all been there. We've all thought I need

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<v Speaker 2>to do this, and then you're like, I'll just do

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<v Speaker 2>it in the future, and then the future comes and

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<v Speaker 2>the future looks like your laptop swimming in your handbag

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<v Speaker 2>with a bottle of water.

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<v Speaker 3>Just do it now, go back it up. You just

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<v Speaker 3>reminded me.

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<v Speaker 4>I have been getting messages for the better part the

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<v Speaker 4>better part of six months.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been getting these sporadic messages like literally.

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<v Speaker 1>To my normal, I message, you owe this money, like

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't paid this money.

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<v Speaker 3>For tolls for like travel, And I have a linked

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<v Speaker 3>card that I direct.

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<v Speaker 1>Debit, right, so like you know, you get the things

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<v Speaker 1>you stick on your window every time you go in,

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<v Speaker 1>I have linked that to a direct debit. So I

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<v Speaker 1>kept getting these messages and I'm like, it's obviously a

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<v Speaker 1>scam because there were scams going around.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like click this link, pay your a toll and

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, no, I don't need to totally automatically exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I wouldn't know what that's like.

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<v Speaker 2>But apparently things come out of automatically and it's so bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly if you could learn something, Laura.

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<v Speaker 1>It always came with a link to click, and I

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<v Speaker 1>never did it because I thought once I clicked on it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that's the scam.

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<v Speaker 3>Once you click on it.

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<v Speaker 4>Somehow in my mind, it takes all your data and

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<v Speaker 4>knows everything about you once you follow that link.

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<v Speaker 3>So I ignored it. I've I probably got like eighty messages.

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<v Speaker 4>Over what span of time for a year, yeah, quite

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<v Speaker 4>a long time. Then the messages started getting quite like

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<v Speaker 4>more severe and aggressive, like it went from you o this,

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<v Speaker 4>you owe this, and the price is kept going up.

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<v Speaker 3>Please check this, you owe this?

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<v Speaker 4>And I was like fuck, these people even blocked the

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<v Speaker 4>number and then they started messaging it from a different number,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was like, oh, these scammers don't get it.

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<v Speaker 3>They're good, They're good.

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<v Speaker 4>And I finally because I got a message on the

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<v Speaker 4>weekend being like your details have been obtained by New

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<v Speaker 4>South Wales law, like full on police, like we're investigating

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<v Speaker 4>this is your case number, all this stuff, and I

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<v Speaker 4>was like.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, they're going to the extreme.

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<v Speaker 1>Debt collectors will becoming you owe this much money, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'll just risk it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll just click on the link and anywhey's real. I

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<v Speaker 3>haven't paid any of my bills for a year.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a ridiculous amount I don't even want to

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<v Speaker 1>say it, a ridiculous amount of tolls.

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<v Speaker 3>That's very annoying.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know, but also not your fault because

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<v Speaker 2>we've been led to believe that any text mess that

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<v Speaker 2>comes through from like an unauthorized numbers a scam exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>But anyway, maybe just investigate that if you guys are

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<v Speaker 4>also getting those messages and might a should be.

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<v Speaker 2>Real, could actually be really you could actually have a

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<v Speaker 2>debt collector coming after you. So yesterday I find I

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<v Speaker 2>made an appointment to go and get my skin checked.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have been meaning to go and do this

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<v Speaker 2>since you were talking about everything that you had done.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of months ago. Britt Britt went through having

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<v Speaker 2>her skin check. Then she went through this crazy hectic

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<v Speaker 2>peel and I, I mean, I'm glad you waited six months.

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<v Speaker 2>I finally made the appointment. I went for my screening yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>I did the mole map thing, you know, when you stand,

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<v Speaker 2>so for anyone who hasn't been, you can go and

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<v Speaker 2>get a full body mole map thing where you stand

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<v Speaker 2>and they take photos of like your shins, then they

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<v Speaker 2>take photos of your mid section, then they take photos

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<v Speaker 2>of your head, and then you turn around.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you do the same thing. You do these random poses.

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<v Speaker 2>Your tire body and they take photos of every single

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<v Speaker 2>part of your body, and then they map the moles

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<v Speaker 2>to your body so they can track how big they get,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, how they change and everything. It's very important

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<v Speaker 2>go to a skin clinic, like you should do this.

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<v Speaker 2>But have you guys ever experienced going to a doctor

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<v Speaker 2>that just has like not a bedside manner that aligns

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<v Speaker 2>with the bedside manner in which you would expect or

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<v Speaker 2>which you would hope for. Yeah, so with the whole

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<v Speaker 2>mole mapping thing, you've got to be like quite naked.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I did like the doctor's check afterwards, so

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<v Speaker 2>I was naked except for a g string in front

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<v Speaker 2>of and boo boobs out in front of, like a

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<v Speaker 2>forty year old man. I didn't know he was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a man. I would have preferred to have

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<v Speaker 2>chosen a female. Obviously, it doesn't matter. He sees boobs

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<v Speaker 2>all day. But like Irofessional and my g string was

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<v Speaker 2>like it was really old and.

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<v Speaker 3>String was you do not even need to spell that way.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been through an aggressive wash cycle and things are

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<v Speaker 2>not Things.

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<v Speaker 4>Are just not as tucked in as they used to be.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like everything needs more support. And I hate

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<v Speaker 4>you look shocked and you look horrified.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just imagining now like a really discolored ging with

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<v Speaker 1>your flapped out the side.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, they went out the side.

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<v Speaker 2>They were just they were just loosely, loosely held within

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<v Speaker 2>my highway running between two mountains. Yes, thank you, between

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<v Speaker 2>a very c through well worn underwear as.

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<v Speaker 1>We imagine, Not that it matters, but I've got a

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<v Speaker 1>real visual imagine. You wouldn't have been like waxed or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>No, because I just didn't expect that I was getting

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't expect I was getting that naked. I also

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<v Speaker 2>didn't expect it to be a forty year old man,

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<v Speaker 2>I just thought because my general GP, she's a female,

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<v Speaker 2>and never feel that all this whatever anyway, so he's

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<v Speaker 2>checking my back.

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<v Speaker 3>And his face very softly spoken.

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<v Speaker 2>He speaks like this, really softly spoken, excuse me, could

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<v Speaker 2>you please remove your pants?

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, okay, this is weird.

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<v Speaker 2>I take my pants off and he's like, could you

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<v Speaker 2>please just remove your uh your covering.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, okay, so here I am removing my covering.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the longer this went on, the weirder the

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<v Speaker 2>quiet whispering got. It made me feel so uncomfortable because

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<v Speaker 2>when someone speaking to you like this, I wanted him

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<v Speaker 2>to be assertive. I wanted him to be like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>now I'm going to check your back. He was like,

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<v Speaker 2>now I'm going to check your.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't a sexual experience. Tell me what you want?

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<v Speaker 3>Hold me, yeah, tell me out. Don't you give a

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<v Speaker 3>slap in the bit like he's a doctor.

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<v Speaker 4>Choke me.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, ma'am, do you know where you are? You're

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<v Speaker 3>in a doctor's clinic.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 3>This is when it got weird. So he kept telling

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<v Speaker 3>me that I was doing a.

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<v Speaker 2>Really good job, but he christ jan and you like

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<v Speaker 2>every time I would you know, he would check my

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<v Speaker 2>back and he would.

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<v Speaker 3>Go, you're doing a really good job, okay, Jeffrey Dharma.

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<v Speaker 3>So then he checked my boobs and he's like, you're

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<v Speaker 3>doing a really good job.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was like, I am so uncomfortable, But also like,

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<v Speaker 4>what job are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>You're standing there naked. I's doing it really well. You

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<v Speaker 1>stood there for you naked. You naked it so well.

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<v Speaker 2>Why isn't that every time I go and have some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of healthcare a boy, but it ends up just

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<v Speaker 2>being uncomfortable and awkward. And I know there's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>someone listening to this and they're gonna be like, don't

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the awkward things. We need to advocate for

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<v Speaker 2>good health. And of course we do go and get

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<v Speaker 2>your skin checked. I'm not saying that, but like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>bedside matter is important, and I feel like if you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be checking a person naked, don't whisper at them.

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<v Speaker 3>It makes it weirdob doing a good job. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>got my skin checked again yesterday too. That definitely did

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<v Speaker 3>not happen. But I had a real doozy yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what happened when I woke up, like

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<v Speaker 4>I just wasn't My brain just wasn't functioning.

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<v Speaker 3>So why were you asleep getting a skin check? Your

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<v Speaker 3>first problem? And then he was late next to me, going,

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<v Speaker 3>you stroking your head? Yeah? Yeah? Is that no normal?

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<v Speaker 3>Your doctor doesn't do house Visit's no. I just woke up.

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<v Speaker 1>My brain was all over the place. So I got

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<v Speaker 1>up and I had a full day of like shit

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<v Speaker 1>to get through. I had appointments, and I had errands,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had to be out with Delilah, and obviously

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<v Speaker 1>I had my very important coffee appointment.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was like halfway through the.

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<v Speaker 1>Day that I realized my pants were on backwards and

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<v Speaker 1>I had a full on tag flapping out.

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<v Speaker 3>And not only the tag. I had these pants that

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<v Speaker 3>they're like bike pants.

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<v Speaker 1>But that you know where all the information isn't written

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<v Speaker 1>on a tag, but it's written on the material so

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<v Speaker 1>everyone could see it.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you not feel like there was extra room in

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<v Speaker 2>the front and the back was really tight?

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<v Speaker 4>No, because they weren't backwards, they were inside out.

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<v Speaker 3>They were just so inside out.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, how have I been out for four

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<v Speaker 1>hours talking to people and no one has told me?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I'm the person. If I saw somebody like that

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<v Speaker 1>I would tell them.

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<v Speaker 4>I would go up to them and say, sorry, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't want embarrass you, but like, just want you to

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<v Speaker 4>know your pants are on inside out. I can see

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<v Speaker 4>where you got them from. I can see that maybe

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<v Speaker 4>Lauda janey're beautiful. I would tell somebody. But then last

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<v Speaker 4>night we went out for a dinner and a drink,

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<v Speaker 4>like the three of us, Keisha, Laura, and myself. And

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<v Speaker 4>halfway through the night, Keisha leans over and she's like, oh, Brittany, sorry,

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<v Speaker 4>you've got this black mascara or down your cheek.

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<v Speaker 3>She's like, can I get it off? And I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my god, thank you must have just fallen. And

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<v Speaker 3>Laura goes that or I was like, oh, I've seen that

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<v Speaker 3>there for hours, and I said, why don't you tell me?

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<v Speaker 3>And I was too hard, It was too hard to

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<v Speaker 3>tell you. And I'm like, you're that person.

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<v Speaker 4>You're the person that doesn't tell someone that they've got

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<v Speaker 4>like a whole thing of asparagus in their teeth.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>And do you know why? It's not because I often forget.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not that.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't forget. You're looking at them.

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<v Speaker 4>You are looking at my face being like she's got

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<v Speaker 4>that on her face, but it's too hard to get off.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I do forget so like, and I wonder if

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<v Speaker 2>other people relate to this. If I see that someone

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<v Speaker 2>has something in their teeth or they have something on

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<v Speaker 2>their face.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll clock it.

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<v Speaker 2>But but wait, but wait, I clock it, but then like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's so not a thing to me, like you having

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of mascara on your cheek, like I

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<v Speaker 2>had a nice, fancy Russian I just didn't like I

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<v Speaker 2>noticed it, but then I didn't notice it after that.

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<v Speaker 2>And so like you're in the middle of speaking, so

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to be like, oh, excuse me, you've

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<v Speaker 2>got this on your face.

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<v Speaker 3>I just wasn't wasn't in a presentation, in a stage.

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<v Speaker 3>I was only talking to you, I know. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>just like I just don't notice these things on people.

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<v Speaker 1>I would spit on your face and wipe it off

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of your talking. If you had something

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<v Speaker 1>on your face that sounded aggressive, I would lick. I

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<v Speaker 1>would look my thumb with mo own saliva and like

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<v Speaker 1>you know how your mum does it, and like scrubs

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<v Speaker 1>that thing off your face.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I would do.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, I think I learned a lot about my two

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<v Speaker 4>closest friends last night at dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think people are gonna interpret that as though

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<v Speaker 2>that that's a bad quality. But no, I just I

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<v Speaker 2>just don't care that much. Like if I had something else,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not bad.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't need to care.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to care, you idiot, ha ha fuck fuck.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess what I'm saying is, it's not a big

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<v Speaker 2>deal if I had a little bit of I know,

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<v Speaker 2>but if I had a bit of a scar on

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<v Speaker 2>my face, it's not a big deal.

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<v Speaker 3>Would I care if you pointed out to me. Probably not.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a load of rubbish.

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<v Speaker 4>You would care if you'd been walking around something on

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<v Speaker 4>your face and you got home and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Was like, sorry, I saw that. Therefore I was ago,

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<v Speaker 3>but I didn't want to tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys, I've walked around with literal human shit on me

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<v Speaker 2>before and I haven't noticed, and no one told me.

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<v Speaker 3>So I feel like I had a turn on.

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<v Speaker 2>I had no I had shit on my shirt, Lola

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<v Speaker 2>shit on my shirt, and I walked around with it

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<v Speaker 2>and no one told me, and then I thought it

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<v Speaker 2>was cappuccino, but it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 3>We've all been there.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're mum, Anyway, let's get into our vibes and

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<v Speaker 2>unsubscribes before we answer your questions. And I have a

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<v Speaker 2>self indulgent vibe, but I don't even care because it's

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<v Speaker 2>that time of year everybody, because I'm excited and that

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<v Speaker 2>is that. It is Tony May's Black Friday Sale. It

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<v Speaker 2>starts today, which is do you know what it could afford?

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<v Speaker 3>Sound effects? Swipe up, side up, swipe up.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I don't talk about Tony Mae much on here,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like this other whole business and this other

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<v Speaker 2>whole life that takes as much mental space. It takes

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<v Speaker 2>as much time as lifelung Cut does. But because life

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<v Speaker 2>on Cut is so media phasing that it kind of

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<v Speaker 2>seems like this is my number one and only thing

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<v Speaker 2>that I do. I guess in the world of work.

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<v Speaker 2>But Tony May has been around for fourteen years now,

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<v Speaker 2>and the like four days is our I mean as fuck,

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<v Speaker 2>it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>It's crazy for me being associated with you, just being

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<v Speaker 4>in your world over this time because it's the busiest,

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<v Speaker 4>craziest time of year for you. Yeah, why Black Friday

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<v Speaker 4>sales the biggest is it? Because you can do your

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<v Speaker 4>Christmas shopping Like we don't even see even no.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what though Black Friday is, it's obviously

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<v Speaker 2>very Americanized, and I think some people are annoyed by

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<v Speaker 2>it because some people are like, oh the American way,

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<v Speaker 2>they're taking over with their Halloween and they're Black Fridays.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care if I get twenty five percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally ill like take over if it means I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to get seventy percent off, shit No. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>the reason why is because like traditionally in Australia, the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest sales used to be Boxing Day sales, Like people

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<v Speaker 2>used to go into the city lineup, used to see it.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember watching the news and people would line up.

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<v Speaker 2>Like back when I used to have my shop in Westfield,

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<v Speaker 2>people camped out to do it at Boxing Day sale, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and they would be in the stores at seven am,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it was a crazy frenetic energy. But since online

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<v Speaker 2>shopping has happened and Black Friday has been established within Australia,

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<v Speaker 2>Boxing Day sales are actually quite disappointing now, especially if

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<v Speaker 2>you shop in store, like they're very very average in

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<v Speaker 2>comparison to what they used to be. And the reason

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<v Speaker 2>why Black Friday has taken over is because people do

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<v Speaker 2>all their pre Christmas shopping, so you actually save money.

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<v Speaker 2>You can get all your Christmas presents now, and for

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<v Speaker 2>every single business, and I'm talking like big businesses, but

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<v Speaker 2>also small businesses, like businesses like Tony May. This is

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<v Speaker 2>like when we as a business make majority of our

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<v Speaker 2>revenue to get you through all of the quiet months

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<v Speaker 2>like January, February, March, April, they are really shitty months

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<v Speaker 2>for retail, and that's why you have things like Valentine's Day.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why you have different little events that at Pepper

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<v Speaker 2>throughout the year to try and spike retail sales.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also so great because like the old Boxing Day sale,

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<v Speaker 1>which you know, growing up was the biggest thing for us,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it was huge because you do save so much money,

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<v Speaker 1>but it sort of defeats the purpose and it was

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<v Speaker 1>a bit unfair because people need those savings before Christmas,

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<v Speaker 1>Like people don't want to make those savings after they've

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<v Speaker 1>spent a motza on getting through Christmas presents, like they

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<v Speaker 1>want it now totally.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also, apart from just that I want it

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<v Speaker 2>now thing, everyone talks about like Black Friday as though

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<v Speaker 2>it is consumerist and it's like a really negative thing,

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<v Speaker 2>which I understand right like, it does play into that,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think it is fun or negative. It's fun

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<v Speaker 2>more impactful if the Boxing Day sales happen after Christmas

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<v Speaker 2>and they are the biggest sales of the year, because

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<v Speaker 2>the reality is is that we live in a culture

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to buy things pre Christmas anyway, and then

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<v Speaker 2>people are buying more things post Christmas. So if you're

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<v Speaker 2>allowing people to buy something at a discount pre Christmas,

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<v Speaker 2>it actually then deters them from buying more once Christmas

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<v Speaker 2>Day's past. So I actually think it does have its

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<v Speaker 2>benefits as well. Also, I have a food comer. On

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<v Speaker 2>Boxing Day, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't want to want to shopping.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even want to be on my phone shopping

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<v Speaker 4>on like the day after Christmas. I just want to

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<v Speaker 4>be chillin with the family, enjoying some leftover ham or turkey.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it all day.

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<v Speaker 2>With all the things you bought on Black Riding sale

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<v Speaker 2>from Tony May hashbag, but seventy percent off.

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<v Speaker 3>It's great. That's that's my fave. And I promise next

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<v Speaker 3>week I'll bring a non work vibe, so I'm wearing

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<v Speaker 3>it now. Actually, this is Tony May. This is Tony.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not look Away brand.

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<v Speaker 4>They're not on sale, No, but they're quite it's nice,

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<v Speaker 4>but these are all Tony made. Like, ninety percent of

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<v Speaker 4>what I'm wearing right now is Tony made. Ninety percent

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<v Speaker 4>of what I always wear is Tony. Mate, if ever

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<v Speaker 4>wear something else, Laura is like, where's that from?

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<v Speaker 3>Trader Trader? Yeah? Poor, Hey, well I my vibe this

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<v Speaker 3>week is believe it or not, it's not true crime.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a TV show.

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<v Speaker 1>It is something very domestic because I am ten percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the time a domestic goddess.

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<v Speaker 3>Nine So that's that's my ratio. Wait, what was your ratio?

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<v Speaker 4>Just and I mised it ten percent domestic goddess ninety

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<v Speaker 4>percent slot.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, No, I think that that's a pretty fast accurate.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's good.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I mean every so oftan shall have a

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<v Speaker 2>burst of energy. You're looking at your life.

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<v Speaker 3>That's accurate. I feel like ten percent is a particularly

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<v Speaker 3>poor number.

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<v Speaker 4>Think if I think I'm less than that, suck you

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<v Speaker 4>true man. You know to do?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I have a two bedroom, two bathroom apartment for myself.

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<v Speaker 3>It is old.

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<v Speaker 4>It is by no mean lush, So it does I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like old places look dirty and sloby quicker too.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, for anyone who's new who doesn't know the backstory

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<v Speaker 2>of BRIT's apartment, I know most of you do. But

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<v Speaker 2>like Matt and I lived in that apartment. We conceived

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<v Speaker 2>our children in that apartment. Lola used to live in

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<v Speaker 2>a fold out cot in the hallway in that apartment. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a problem with you saying conceived. You could

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<v Speaker 2>just say we had our first two kids. We conceived.

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<v Speaker 3>We fucked all over that house. He came the love,

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<v Speaker 3>he came inside me. He came in here here when

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<v Speaker 3>his sperm made its way, slid it into my egg,

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<v Speaker 3>swam all the way into my Filippian tubes. And it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't do that, does it? That's bad? But I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>not into.

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<v Speaker 2>If it sims into your Filippian tubes, you're in trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>Does no, I think it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Your filopian tubes.

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<v Speaker 4>Go to your ovaries, guys, I thought it siems Wait wait,

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<v Speaker 4>does it swim into your filopian tubes?

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<v Speaker 2>Fertilized the egg at the source and then it goes

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<v Speaker 2>down as the uterus orders it already implant, and then

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<v Speaker 2>it does make its way down all then delete that

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<v Speaker 2>because I sound stupid.

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<v Speaker 3>The embryo does need to make its journey back down.

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<v Speaker 3>How do we get here? What is your domestic what

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<v Speaker 3>is your vibe? What I was going to say is, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Keisha to appease you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm more on the messy side because what I do

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<v Speaker 1>is like, once a room gets too messy and I

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<v Speaker 1>can't be won to clean, I just go to the

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<v Speaker 1>next one, so I have Once one bathroom gets too dirty,

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<v Speaker 1>I know I have another clean one, so I go

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<v Speaker 1>to that, and then when they're both messy, that's when

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<v Speaker 1>I have to do the clean.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, that's irrelevant, that's just my ratio. I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 4>nine ifcent lob Instead of like a.

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<v Speaker 1>Binge eetter, I'm a binge cleaner, So like I'll do

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<v Speaker 1>it sporadically and I'll clean to the nth degree, Like

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<v Speaker 1>i will scrub every.

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<v Speaker 3>Nook and cranny. I binge it. You know, do you

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<v Speaker 3>angry clean? Because this is what I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I like let my house get into such disarray and

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<v Speaker 2>then when I have to clean it, I'm angry that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm cleaning it. So then I'm like wandering around the

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<v Speaker 2>house in an angry fit of cleaning, and then I'm

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<v Speaker 2>angry at Matt because I'm cleaning and he's not cleaning

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<v Speaker 2>at the exact time that I want to clean.

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<v Speaker 3>Cleaning makes me mad.

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<v Speaker 4>I stress clean, like when I'm really stressed about stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's like a ConTroll thing. They do relate

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<v Speaker 4>it back to anxiety. Anyway, watch vibe.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to contribute to this too. I domino clean.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I domino cleaning in terms of like, once

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<v Speaker 1>I start one thing, then it goes on. So if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, I'll just follow these clothes and put

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<v Speaker 1>them away, then I'm in there and I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>while I'm in there, I'll clean the cupt Then I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>now you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know it's a domino effect.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, this is actually genuinely life changing for I think anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Ben even came like last week and he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go buy one of these. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is fucking so good. It is just a very tiny,

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<v Speaker 1>the size slightly bigger than your hand, a handheld portable

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<v Speaker 1>steamer that is like almost single use. So it's got

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<v Speaker 1>this tiny little water thing. It is the best thing

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<v Speaker 1>I have ever had. It heats up in about five seconds,

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<v Speaker 1>so you feel this tiny little jug of water stick

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<v Speaker 1>it in it. It is so portable you could take

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<v Speaker 1>it overseas with you if you want it, and it

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<v Speaker 1>takes three seconds to heat up.

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<v Speaker 3>It comes with a hangar.

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<v Speaker 4>It's amazing, And it's like, I'm not even recommending a brand.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm recommending these handheld steamers. You will never get your

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<v Speaker 4>ironing board out again because it takes five seconds in

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<v Speaker 4>and out and you're done, takes five seconds to cool down,

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<v Speaker 4>you put it away.

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<v Speaker 3>It's actually the best thing I've ever bought. Hang On, Sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm confused. Is this a garment steamer or is this

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<v Speaker 3>a cleaning? No, a garment steamer? How did I get

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<v Speaker 3>there from cleaning?

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<v Speaker 4>Because Keisha called me up when I gave you my

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<v Speaker 4>ratio of slobbiness, so I wanted to expand on that.

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<v Speaker 3>What I am.

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<v Speaker 4>Recommending is just these tiny handheld steamers. If you travel

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<v Speaker 4>a lot, even like domestically, It's just absolutely changed my life.

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<v Speaker 4>So that is my vibe Amazon, tiny little baby handheld steamer.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, Kishi give us a more and more intelligent than

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<v Speaker 2>both of us.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there is nothing wrong with a handheld steamer. Though

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<v Speaker 3>there is nothing wrong, but this was a dick of

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<v Speaker 3>both of us.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm more meant, what can people learn from how can

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<v Speaker 2>they grow as a person?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's not what vibe is, but you know what

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<v Speaker 3>they will be.

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<v Speaker 2>They will be covered in good jewels and they'll have

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<v Speaker 2>freshly steam clothes.

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<v Speaker 4>They will be presentable to be fair, am I allowed

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<v Speaker 4>to have two really quick?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay?

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<v Speaker 4>So the first one actually came from one of our

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<v Speaker 4>wonderful life is and it was after you and I

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<v Speaker 4>Laura just last Tuesday discussed me being diagnosed with ADHD.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's called Habit Tracker.

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<v Speaker 4>It's an app, and I think you can get a

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<v Speaker 4>free version, but pay once forever version was nine ninety nine,

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<v Speaker 4>so I was like, it's ten bucks whatever, I'll give

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<v Speaker 4>it a crack. You basically can go through this list

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<v Speaker 4>of habits that you're trying to either do or things

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<v Speaker 4>that you're trying to quit, and you select the ones

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<v Speaker 4>that you want, Like so for myself, I've got five.

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<v Speaker 4>I've got stretch, read a book, sleep, early, exercise, walk,

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<v Speaker 4>drink water.

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<v Speaker 3>That's six anyway, So.

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<v Speaker 4>You set the goals that you want, and you can

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<v Speaker 4>set certain alarms for particular days. So I'll have the

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<v Speaker 4>drink water three leaves of water for every day, but

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<v Speaker 4>I've only got the sleep early for like the days

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<v Speaker 4>that are not the weekends. I'm finding it so so useful.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm absolutely loving it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just this little tiny reminder, and it's things that

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<v Speaker 4>I really want to like try and work on.

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<v Speaker 1>What makes it different to where you would just put

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<v Speaker 1>your reminders in reminder app or Google calendar?

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<v Speaker 4>So I think you have to I don't know if

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<v Speaker 4>there surely would be away, but I don't know how

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<v Speaker 4>to do it. You'd have to like copy paste it

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<v Speaker 4>onto every day, whereas this is an app.

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<v Speaker 3>That's like set up to do it every day.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Yeah, so you don't have to put it in

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<v Speaker 4>your Google calendar. I mean, I'm sure you could do that,

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<v Speaker 4>but I'm not that text savvy.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you want to achieve through this? What's the

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<v Speaker 2>plant she wants to stretch on Wednesday? She wants I

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<v Speaker 2>perpetually forgetful, and I'm always kind of like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>really want to be working on that, but I forget

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<v Speaker 2>about it and then I don't really make it a priority.

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<v Speaker 4>So this makes me have a reminder. So it's just

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<v Speaker 4>that little reminder. I get one at twelve o'clock to

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<v Speaker 4>make me drink more water. I get one at nine

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<v Speaker 4>o'clock to tell me to start winding down, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 4>finding it really useful, a really good.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that this sort of stuff makes me feel

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<v Speaker 3>more overloaded.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes you can, Yeah, sometimes if you're not achieving them,

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's why you've got to make them realistic.

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<v Speaker 1>I think my problem is this stuff doesn't It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>work for me because I'll get a reminder come through,

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<v Speaker 1>Like if I don't want to do it, it doesn't make

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<v Speaker 1>me do it. I just cancel the reminder and stay

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<v Speaker 1>on the lounge like I'm really bad.

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<v Speaker 3>That's called discipline.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just feel like if I want, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'm just a different I guess it's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those things right where it's not for everyone. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>everyone doesn't work in the same capacity, which is probably

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<v Speaker 1>great for you and those with ADHD who need that structure.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it also comes down to two things. One,

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<v Speaker 2>how much you want the habit in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>How much you actually want Like we often convince ourselves

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<v Speaker 2>we want to do things, but we don't actually want

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<v Speaker 2>to do the thing we want the end results, So

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<v Speaker 2>like when it comes to like news resolutions, everyone's always

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<v Speaker 2>like I want to lose time kilos, but no one's

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<v Speaker 2>saying I want to exercise every day. So if your

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<v Speaker 2>intention is that you want to exercise every day, not

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<v Speaker 2>that you just want the end goal of it, then

0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:17.960
<v Speaker 2>you're more inclined to actually enact the habit. But also,

0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:20.399
<v Speaker 2>Britt like, you're the person who ignored a debt collector

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<v Speaker 2>messaging you every day for a year, so they could

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<v Speaker 2>probably am.

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<v Speaker 1>Not the reminded me every day And I was like, Yank,

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably not the reminder Queen.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I sneak on really quickly?

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<v Speaker 4>And because Laura and I discussed this and that was

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<v Speaker 4>a very very interesting conversation. It is an episode of

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<v Speaker 4>The Daily Oz and it's called why a war crime

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<v Speaker 4>whistle blow up might go to jail?

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<v Speaker 3>So this is from a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a guy called David McBride and he was in

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<v Speaker 4>the army.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a major. I'm not exactly sure of his role. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's really interesting this.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, essentially he was the whistleblower who said that there

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<v Speaker 4>were Australian soldiers doing unlawful things. And there are a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of levels that he went to, you know, within

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<v Speaker 4>the military, kind of telling them that this is what

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<v Speaker 4>was going on, and essentially he was like, they're not

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<v Speaker 4>doing anything about it, and he eventually went to the

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<v Speaker 4>media and that's how we had all these Remember a

0:26:06.440 --> 0:26:08.119
<v Speaker 4>couple of years ago I went to these war crimes

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<v Speaker 4>by Australians were exposed.

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<v Speaker 3>The same time, there's a lot of sexual assault and

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<v Speaker 3>stuff being exposed.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was horrible. Anyway, that guy is now facing

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<v Speaker 4>trial because he's disclosed secret information and there are laws

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<v Speaker 4>in Australia that are meant to protect whistleblowers, but for

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<v Speaker 4>some reason, this guy is not essentially covered by them.

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<v Speaker 4>So this court case is happening right now. It is

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<v Speaker 4>very very interesting because something that they brought up on

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<v Speaker 4>the podcast m gillespie if you know her, she hosted

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<v Speaker 4>this particular episode essentially, so there was this conversation between

0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:42.800
<v Speaker 4>her and the person she was interviewing, and it brought

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<v Speaker 4>up the question of like, if we don't allow whistleblowers

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<v Speaker 4>to be protected, this is a threat to protra See

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<v Speaker 4>if you don't have a place where people can go

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<v Speaker 4>and talk about the wrong things that are happening within

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<v Speaker 4>whatever organization. They work for and you're going to protect them.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's really damaging and it's quite dangerous to

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<v Speaker 4>talk about what people are able to get away with.

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<v Speaker 1>What it does do as well is obviously just deters

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<v Speaker 1>anyone from ever coming forwardever again. Yeah, I was like, well, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well you know, I'm not gonna go on fighting justice

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<v Speaker 1>to jail exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the fear of it. That's exactly the point. That's

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<v Speaker 2>exactly why governments do it. I think that this is

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<v Speaker 2>such an interesting recommendation. I know, we had a really

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<v Speaker 2>great chat about it, and for anyone who does remember,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you can google it. There were videos and

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<v Speaker 2>footage of one of the soldiers drinking out of a

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<v Speaker 2>prosthetic leg. They were carrying it around like a trophy.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is all circulating from around the time when

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<v Speaker 2>Australia had a really strong military pool over the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is ongoing, but it does make you

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<v Speaker 2>question like who is the person that should be reprimanded.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the people who are there who are creating

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<v Speaker 2>the war crimes, or is it the whistleblower? And it

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<v Speaker 2>seems like it's a misdirection of anger at the moment. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so this particular episode, like the Daily is what they do.

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<v Speaker 2>They do the news bulletins at the start, and then

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<v Speaker 2>they do a deep dive the episode. The whole episode

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<v Speaker 2>on that goes for sixteen minutes, so it's not like

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<v Speaker 2>this is not going to take you long to get through.

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<v Speaker 3>But for me it was very, very interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>It's snackable yea, yeah, totally, and we'll put the links

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<v Speaker 2>to that in the show notes. Anyway, let's get into

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<v Speaker 2>answering all your questions.

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<v Speaker 3>Question number one.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, I'm forty nine and I have been divorced for

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<v Speaker 2>three years after a twenty six year marriage. I'm quite

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<v Speaker 2>content on my own and I have great friends, but

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<v Speaker 2>I recently decided to try online dating just to see

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<v Speaker 2>what it's all about and to have some male company.

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<v Speaker 2>And my profile says nothing serious anyway. I've been catching

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<v Speaker 2>up with one gentleman once a month for dinner and sex.

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<v Speaker 3>He is really lovely.

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<v Speaker 2>Last weekend I went on a date with a different

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<v Speaker 2>guy and he was wonderful too. My problem is can

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<v Speaker 2>I date two guys at the same time. I'm starting

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<v Speaker 2>to feel really guilty. The first guy probably wouldn't mind

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<v Speaker 2>that much, but the second guy would hate it.

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<v Speaker 3>Do I have to tell them about each other?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, you need to be getting all that d You

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<v Speaker 1>can date as many people as you want, especially off

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<v Speaker 1>the back of a twenty sixty marriage. Like I think

0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:57.600
<v Speaker 1>you deserve that, you deserve to go and how to

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<v Speaker 1>deserve it. You deserve the experience and you don't owe

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<v Speaker 1>anybody anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 1>And I understand why you're asking this because you have

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<v Speaker 1>been out of the dating game for twenty six years.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been married, so I mean, you don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>it's quote unquote rules or dating etiquette, and there is

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<v Speaker 1>dating etiquette for sure. Once you have a conversation with

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<v Speaker 1>one of these men, like this is very casual.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you said once a month, want me to

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<v Speaker 3>the other guy?

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<v Speaker 2>No, the other guy she's gone on dates with and

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<v Speaker 2>she likes him and she wants to know she can

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<v Speaker 2>date the both.

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<v Speaker 1>You do not need to tell him unless you want to,

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<v Speaker 1>or you obviously have the exclusive chat or he asks

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<v Speaker 1>you outright, because I don't think you should be lying.

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<v Speaker 1>If he says, like, you know, are you seeing anyone

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<v Speaker 1>Else'd be like yeah, I mean yeah, sometimes nothing serious,

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<v Speaker 1>but I am, you know, exploring my options.

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<v Speaker 3>And then if.

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<v Speaker 1>The conversation that enshees off the back of that is

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<v Speaker 1>I don't feel comfortable with that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, then you need to have a conversation and.

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<v Speaker 4>Decide whether you are ready to get into an exclusive

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<v Speaker 4>relationship again or not. And that is your boundary and

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<v Speaker 4>your prerogative. One hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, I agree, I agree, but I all so

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<v Speaker 2>have slight disagreements. And the only reason why is because

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<v Speaker 2>I do think if you are saying, like you know

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<v Speaker 2>that he would be not okay with it, that must

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<v Speaker 2>be because he has explained what he's looking for. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>he said he's looking for something serious, maybe he's looking

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<v Speaker 2>for an exclusive relationship, whatever it is. If you know

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<v Speaker 2>that he is gonna hate it, then that is because

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<v Speaker 2>he's been in some way led to believe that it's

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<v Speaker 2>the alternate. Right, Lauria is controlling or totally which is

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<v Speaker 2>why a very honest conversation needs to be had. So

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<v Speaker 2>like an honest conversation around, not around, and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>mean around I'm dating this person, I've got this, and

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<v Speaker 2>thiss going on an honest conversation around what you want

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<v Speaker 2>and what you're looking for, and if that is something

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<v Speaker 2>that is not exclusive, then I do think it is

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<v Speaker 2>important to say, Look, this is where I'm at in

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<v Speaker 2>my dating relationship experience. I'm out of a divorce, I've

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<v Speaker 2>just recently started dating again. I'm not looking for anything serious.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you're wanting a committed relationship where there's nothing

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<v Speaker 2>else going on, then maybe I'm not the right person

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<v Speaker 2>for you. I mean, I kind of think that it

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<v Speaker 2>can lead you into more problems if you're dating people

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<v Speaker 2>who think that you're exclusive.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I'm going to strongly disagree on this

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<v Speaker 1>purely because you've been on one date with this guy

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<v Speaker 1>and you've already said you know he's going to hate it, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you do not owe this guy anything after one date.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh no, I agree, you don't owe him shit after

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<v Speaker 4>one day. So you do not have to have that

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<v Speaker 4>conversation with him. Absolutely not if you want to move

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<v Speaker 4>forward with him and the conversation comes up organically. But

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<v Speaker 4>just so you know, you don't have to go on one

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<v Speaker 4>date with someone and then tell them everything about you

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<v Speaker 4>and say I'm seeing somebody else. Is you know if

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<v Speaker 4>you know after one date with someone you have just

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<v Speaker 4>met them, If you know after one date that they

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<v Speaker 4>will hate if you see anyone else they're gonna be

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<v Speaker 4>putting a red.

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<v Speaker 3>Flag up for me, just so just so you're aware.

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<v Speaker 1>So I genuinely think you don't owe anyone anything at

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<v Speaker 1>this stage, and I think you can date two people

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<v Speaker 1>at once.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a question for you, though. Okay, So just

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<v Speaker 2>say you meet someone online and they are clear with you.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, I'm looking for a relationship, Like just say

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<v Speaker 2>somebody's like, I'm putting it all out there in the

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<v Speaker 2>world what i want in a person and what I

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<v Speaker 2>want in my dating life so that I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>people wasting my time. They're like, you know, hey, I

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<v Speaker 2>like you, you seem great. What I'm looking for is a relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking for someone who wants to do life with me.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that you I don't know, but that's what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>looking for. Is that something that you're open for?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that where you're at in life? Are you looking

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<v Speaker 2>for something that's exclusive? If you're not, if you're at

0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:20.000
<v Speaker 2>the place where she is, you're looking for no strings attached,

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:23.440
<v Speaker 2>You're looking for, you know, dating experiences, you're looking for fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that there is a moral obligation to

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<v Speaker 2>be truthful to that person who is putting out there

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<v Speaker 2>what they are looking for in the world, or do

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<v Speaker 2>you think Yeah, I do think so.

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<v Speaker 4>I think if someone has said I'm looking to you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to find my life partner and have kids,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, you want to fuck once and then

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<v Speaker 4>that's it, I think it's important that you also say, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm happy to meet up with you, but I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Not looking for anything serious. And that's why I reiterate

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<v Speaker 1>my point. My opinion is that she has literally done

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<v Speaker 1>all the right thing. She said, I am not looking

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<v Speaker 1>for anything serious that's on her dating side.

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<v Speaker 3>She's done that.

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<v Speaker 4>She's been on one date with this guy, and she

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<v Speaker 4>knows that he's not gonna like her.

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<v Speaker 3>Seeing anyone else red flag, Yeah, I probably wouldn't go

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<v Speaker 3>and that person. Again.

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<v Speaker 2>To be honest, I mean there are people who though

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<v Speaker 2>and like, this is just a different way of dating,

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<v Speaker 2>especially if you're looking for, like, you know, a long

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<v Speaker 2>term exclusive relationship. There's like two different ways you can

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<v Speaker 2>go about it. Fill your egg, don't get too attached

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<v Speaker 2>to any one person, you know, like fill your egg.

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<v Speaker 3>Fill you don't feel your Easter basket. We do not

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<v Speaker 3>fill your.

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<v Speaker 2>Egg because you will then have a baby that was

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<v Speaker 2>not the plan. Fill your basket, date lots of people,

0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:27.560
<v Speaker 2>expose yourself to lots of things, and then you might

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<v Speaker 2>figure out what it is that you want. The other

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<v Speaker 2>way in which people approach dating, especially if the after

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<v Speaker 2>like a long term partner, is not to fill your

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<v Speaker 2>basket with too many people, because then it's like you

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<v Speaker 2>don't actually get to connect with anyone person. You're kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like it's like a scattergun approach and you kind

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:47.160
<v Speaker 2>of are like, oh, what's next, what's better? You're constantly comparing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think the approach to dating is different depending

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<v Speaker 2>on what you want the outcome to be. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>wanting a long term relationship, I would say date less

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<v Speaker 2>people get to know them quickly. I do not quickly,

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<v Speaker 2>but like get to know whether they are potential or

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<v Speaker 2>not and then discard. That sounds so mean, but like

0:34:04.000 --> 0:34:06.360
<v Speaker 2>move on if they're not the right person, feed, give

0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 2>them in the bin once you finish, rather than if

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:10.920
<v Speaker 2>you're trying to look for someone who's like a serious relationship,

0:34:11.000 --> 0:34:13.080
<v Speaker 2>dating lots of people and not actually being able to

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<v Speaker 2>go deep with any single person because you're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>like expread yourself too thin. But if you are dating

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<v Speaker 2>for casualness. If you are dating for this, like you know,

0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:23.279
<v Speaker 2>getting back out there, this spontaneity, this enjoying life, then

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<v Speaker 2>I think there is absolutely no limit in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>how many people you can date. But I do think

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<v Speaker 2>the honesty will make you feel less guilty about it.

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<v Speaker 2>The fact that you feel guilty comes from this feeling

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<v Speaker 2>of like you are keeping something.

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<v Speaker 3>I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think the fact that she feels guilty is

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<v Speaker 1>because she's keeping something. I think the fact she feels

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<v Speaker 1>guilty is she's been a monogamous relationship for twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>years and she hasn't been in the dating world. So

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<v Speaker 1>to answer your question, no, you do not need to

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<v Speaker 1>tell these two men that you have, you know, been

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<v Speaker 1>on one date with one and very casually with the other.

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<v Speaker 1>You do not need to tell them because chances are

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<v Speaker 1>they are too. The second guy probably isn't because he

0:34:57.560 --> 0:35:00.800
<v Speaker 1>seems a bit like well. But once it's broad up organically,

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<v Speaker 1>either you're going to bring it up because you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to get to a point where you don't want them

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<v Speaker 1>to be with somebody else, or they're going to bring

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<v Speaker 1>it up because they don't want you to be with

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<v Speaker 1>someone else. But you have to make sure that that

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 1>happens in a healthy way and a healthy timeframe.

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<v Speaker 3>Totally, absolutely. Question number two.

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<v Speaker 1>My partner of three years has told me if I

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<v Speaker 1>don't put out more, he's going to leave me. We

0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:23.920
<v Speaker 1>are both early thirties, and his number one priority in

0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:25.640
<v Speaker 1>a relationship is sex.

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<v Speaker 3>We currently have.

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<v Speaker 1>Sex twice a week, and that isn't enough for him.

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<v Speaker 1>He told me our sex life is shit and makes

0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:33.799
<v Speaker 1>him unhappy, and people our age should be having sex

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. I have vaginismus, which is getting better,

0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:40.000
<v Speaker 1>but I just don't find sex enjoyable. I cannot orgasm

0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:42.799
<v Speaker 1>from penetration and it can be very uncomfortable, but I

0:35:42.840 --> 0:35:45.640
<v Speaker 1>still do it for him. He has said everything else

0:35:45.680 --> 0:35:47.880
<v Speaker 1>in our relationship is perfect, but the reason we are

0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:51.200
<v Speaker 1>not engaged is because of the sex. He doesn't want

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:53.600
<v Speaker 1>a sexless marriage and it plays on his mind. His

0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:56.279
<v Speaker 1>number one priority in a relationship is sex, and he

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<v Speaker 1>said ours is shit. I feel really low about this.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, my god, of course you feel low about this.

0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:02.680
<v Speaker 3>That is horrific.

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<v Speaker 4>But oh and if anyone's real number one priority in

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<v Speaker 4>a relationship is sex for me, red flag?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, like not even a red flag like fucking

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<v Speaker 3>be done.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, red flag Like yeah, oh sorry, red flag, They're

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<v Speaker 4>burned down.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm deeply offended by this because it's okay for sex

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<v Speaker 2>to be a very important part of your relationship. I

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<v Speaker 2>understand that it's very important to sexually be on the

0:36:26.760 --> 0:36:29.520
<v Speaker 2>same page, But to say that sex is the most

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<v Speaker 2>important thing and the most important thing that your partner

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<v Speaker 2>prioritizes means that I would not be getting married to

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<v Speaker 2>that person because sex does not have longevity without any

0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:42.360
<v Speaker 2>ebbs and flows in a relationship. What happens when or

0:36:42.400 --> 0:36:45.040
<v Speaker 2>if you decide to have children, What happens when and

0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:48.799
<v Speaker 2>if work becomes really stressful, Like are you still expected

0:36:48.880 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 2>to constantly put out to satisfy this entirely insatiable sexual

0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:55.160
<v Speaker 2>urge that he has? And then what happens when you

0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:57.440
<v Speaker 2>aren't physically capable of doing that? Does he then go

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<v Speaker 2>and look for sex elsewhere? Like that's something that he

0:36:59.800 --> 0:37:02.759
<v Speaker 2>needs to unpacking himself and work out, like his sex

0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:05.720
<v Speaker 2>drive And whether or not it matches what you're able

0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:07.600
<v Speaker 2>to give in the relationship, and the fact that you

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<v Speaker 2>have you have vaginismus, the fact that you have been

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<v Speaker 2>open about it, the fact that this is something that

0:37:12.760 --> 0:37:13.440
<v Speaker 2>is painful for you.

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<v Speaker 3>That is hard for you.

0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:18.319
<v Speaker 2>You require someone who is even more empathetic around your

0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:21.160
<v Speaker 2>sexual abilities and what you're able to give. You need

0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:23.120
<v Speaker 2>to be made to feel safe and secure in a

0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:26.600
<v Speaker 2>relationship in order to overcome your vaginismas rather than have

0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 2>someone who whose expectation is sex from you regardless. Like

0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:33.719
<v Speaker 2>for me, there's such an immense lack of empathy here.

0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:36.960
<v Speaker 2>There is an immense lack and mismatching priorities of what

0:37:37.040 --> 0:37:37.600
<v Speaker 2>is important.

0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:38.920
<v Speaker 3>He's putting his own.

0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 2>Satisfaction above your health, and above your needs, and above

0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 2>your wants, and above your feelings of validation. And there

0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:48.919
<v Speaker 2>is no wonder why you feel like shit. I can't

0:37:48.960 --> 0:37:51.440
<v Speaker 2>imagine that there's anyone out there who has their partner

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<v Speaker 2>tell them that they think their sex life is shit

0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:55.000
<v Speaker 2>and that's the reason why they won't make a long

0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:58.520
<v Speaker 2>term commitment to them that would not feel like an

0:37:58.560 --> 0:37:59.920
<v Speaker 2>absolute piece of shit.

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:01.320
<v Speaker 3>That's how he's making you feel.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, spoiler people your age and not having sex all

0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:06.799
<v Speaker 1>the time, like he said, like he's like everyone else

0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:08.480
<v Speaker 1>my age is having our age is having sex all

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<v Speaker 1>the time.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not.

0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:11.439
<v Speaker 1>Age actually has nothing to do with it. It's where

0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:13.400
<v Speaker 1>you are in a relationship and who you are as

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<v Speaker 1>two people? How old are they again the early thirties?

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck that and together for three years?

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<v Speaker 4>And he's like, people, Yeah, I mean you're having sex

0:38:20.880 --> 0:38:24.720
<v Speaker 4>twice a week? Like great from it's not incuprecious, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>from like a committed, normal monogamous relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously everybody is different. Some people having sex five times

0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:32.920
<v Speaker 2>a week. Some people are having sex once a fortnite.

0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:35.120
<v Speaker 2>Some people aren't even doing that, you know, Like it

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<v Speaker 2>is so varied and for him to say that there's

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<v Speaker 2>a benchmark for comparison, it doesn't matter what other people

0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:42.600
<v Speaker 2>are doing. It's got to do with what is comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>in your relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>And I would.

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<v Speaker 2>Say you are, especially for someone who's vaginismus, you are

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<v Speaker 2>more than coming to the table by doing it twice

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<v Speaker 2>a week. And like, doesn't mean that you can do

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<v Speaker 2>other things. Can you be sexual together, like you know,

0:38:56.200 --> 0:38:58.919
<v Speaker 2>could you do other things that aren't penetrative sex, yes,

0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:02.600
<v Speaker 2>but right you could be having more intimate moments throughout

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<v Speaker 2>the week rather than it just being sex twice a week.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's kind of wheen Ben, thank you, ma'am.

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<v Speaker 2>But the thing is is, do not feel guilty about

0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:12.440
<v Speaker 2>the fact that you don't want to be more sexual

0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:15.680
<v Speaker 2>with him when he is making you feel guilty about sex,

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<v Speaker 2>because that is not going to inside in anyone the motivation,

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<v Speaker 2>the desire, the want to have more or to do

0:39:23.120 --> 0:39:26.000
<v Speaker 2>more for their partner. The more that you feel like

0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:28.600
<v Speaker 2>you're doing a bad job, the more you feel like

0:39:28.680 --> 0:39:31.040
<v Speaker 2>he's not enjoying it or like you're failing in this

0:39:31.080 --> 0:39:33.960
<v Speaker 2>aspect of the relationship, the less you're gonna want to

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<v Speaker 2>do it as well, because, like you know, I think

0:39:36.200 --> 0:39:38.680
<v Speaker 2>we all thrive on positive affirmation. We all thrive on

0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:41.920
<v Speaker 2>feeling loved and connected. That's when women feel safe. And

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<v Speaker 2>I remember Esther Perell when we're talking about desire with her,

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<v Speaker 2>she was like, four play doesn't start the second you

0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:50.680
<v Speaker 2>get in the bedroom. Four plays starts the second that

0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:53.279
<v Speaker 2>the last time you had sex ended. What did he

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<v Speaker 2>do that day that made you feel special? What did

0:39:55.520 --> 0:39:57.480
<v Speaker 2>he do that day that made you feel desired? What

0:39:57.480 --> 0:40:00.200
<v Speaker 2>were the things that led up to making you want

0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:02.560
<v Speaker 2>to have sex with him, making you want to be

0:40:02.640 --> 0:40:05.360
<v Speaker 2>intimate with him? And I would say, if anything, the

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<v Speaker 2>way in which he's speaking to you around sex only

0:40:08.160 --> 0:40:09.760
<v Speaker 2>diminishes everything else.

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<v Speaker 3>And so it makes me sure. We're angry for me.

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<v Speaker 3>There's two parts to this question. The first part.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that you currently have a mismatch in your sexual compatibility,

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<v Speaker 1>which normally I would say normal, Fine, you can work

0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:27.319
<v Speaker 1>on that. You can deal with that because it's not

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<v Speaker 1>uncommon for people to have different sexual desires, sexual wants,

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<v Speaker 1>sexual frequency.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a pretty standard thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We know that from how many psychologists and sex therapists

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<v Speaker 1>we've spoken to. That is something you could go and

0:40:38.880 --> 0:40:40.720
<v Speaker 1>work on together, and like you said, Laura.

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<v Speaker 3>Do it in a different capacity.

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<v Speaker 1>The second part of this, and this is the problem part,

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<v Speaker 1>is that his number one priority in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Relationship is sex.

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<v Speaker 1>And sometimes we need to say this out loud to ourselves,

0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:52.799
<v Speaker 1>or sometimes we need to have someone else say it

0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:56.799
<v Speaker 1>to you. You are saying that his priority and his

0:40:56.880 --> 0:41:01.440
<v Speaker 1>desire for sex outweighs your physics equal pain and your

0:41:01.560 --> 0:41:05.080
<v Speaker 1>mental pain. Like you are saying, this is painful for me,

0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:07.799
<v Speaker 1>and he's saying, give me more. I need more. I

0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:10.040
<v Speaker 1>can't marry you if you don't give me more. To me,

0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:12.880
<v Speaker 1>that's fucking wild. And sometimes, like I said, you do

0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:15.520
<v Speaker 1>need it spelled out to you. I do really feel

0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:18.359
<v Speaker 1>for you in this situation because you've been with him

0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:20.520
<v Speaker 1>for three years and you obviously love him, and it's

0:41:20.520 --> 0:41:23.279
<v Speaker 1>hard to it's hard to look at someone that you

0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:26.400
<v Speaker 1>love that's close to you like maybe they aren't the

0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:28.239
<v Speaker 1>right person, or maybe they're not treating you the way

0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:30.719
<v Speaker 1>they want, because he might treat you really well in

0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:33.640
<v Speaker 1>other ways. So we tend to hold onto those really

0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:35.520
<v Speaker 1>positive things and say, but he does all this for me,

0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:37.799
<v Speaker 1>like he cooks me dinner every single night. You know,

0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:40.600
<v Speaker 1>we grasp onto these things to sort of balance the

0:41:40.640 --> 0:41:43.600
<v Speaker 1>things that we know actually aren't okay. And you have

0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:47.480
<v Speaker 1>to ask yourself if you know for you that you

0:41:47.600 --> 0:41:49.879
<v Speaker 1>are not going to be able to have sex every day,

0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:51.880
<v Speaker 1>and not only not not going to be able to,

0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:54.200
<v Speaker 1>but you don't want to for a multitude of reasons.

0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:55.200
<v Speaker 3>It physically hurts you.

0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:59.719
<v Speaker 4>He's not initiating the intimate desire that you need, like

0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:01.440
<v Speaker 4>he's doing anything else around that.

0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:03.600
<v Speaker 1>If you know that that's what your life looks like.

0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:05.960
<v Speaker 1>And he's blatantly like I want to fuck every day

0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:07.800
<v Speaker 1>or I'm not going to marry you, this could be

0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:10.319
<v Speaker 1>a really hard pill to swallow. But there's a really

0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:12.200
<v Speaker 1>hard conversation that needs to happen and then a.

0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:12.960
<v Speaker 3>Really big decision.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, and I can we not skim over the fact

0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:21.320
<v Speaker 2>because it is so important that he is using marriage,

0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:23.880
<v Speaker 2>like he is using an engagement, something that he knows

0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:27.759
<v Speaker 2>you want, as a manipulative tool to make you do

0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:30.520
<v Speaker 2>something that you don't want to do. So he's like,

0:42:30.920 --> 0:42:33.360
<v Speaker 2>I won't marry you unless you have more sex with me,

0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:35.839
<v Speaker 2>because I want to ensure that sex is something that

0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:38.960
<v Speaker 2>is the number one thing in our relationship. So he

0:42:39.040 --> 0:42:42.480
<v Speaker 2>already is using something that should not be about sex

0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:44.640
<v Speaker 2>to manipulate you to do something you don't want.

0:42:44.680 --> 0:42:46.480
<v Speaker 3>It is very fucking wrong. It's horrid.

0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:50.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's emotionally manipulative, it's physically manipulative, and all it's

0:42:50.680 --> 0:42:53.320
<v Speaker 2>doing is eroding your self esteem and eroding your boundaries.

0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:55.560
<v Speaker 2>And like, we have these conversations with you guys as

0:42:55.560 --> 0:42:57.719
<v Speaker 2>tho we're friends, and like we get these messages and

0:42:57.719 --> 0:42:59.279
<v Speaker 2>we're like, oh, like this is what I say to

0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:02.320
<v Speaker 2>my best friend. But I also think sometimes in these situations,

0:43:02.360 --> 0:43:04.600
<v Speaker 2>you need to go and speak to an external third party,

0:43:04.640 --> 0:43:07.400
<v Speaker 2>like go and have these conversations with a relationship therapist,

0:43:07.640 --> 0:43:11.080
<v Speaker 2>go and have these conversations with your own therapist, because

0:43:11.280 --> 0:43:15.160
<v Speaker 2>I would really be so concerned if you were to

0:43:15.200 --> 0:43:17.719
<v Speaker 2>marry this person, if you were to get engaged when

0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:21.239
<v Speaker 2>this mismatching priorities is so so huge, and that he

0:43:21.280 --> 0:43:23.440
<v Speaker 2>doesn't have the empathy or the care for how you

0:43:23.480 --> 0:43:26.239
<v Speaker 2>feel and what you're going through and prioritizes his own

0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:27.319
<v Speaker 2>physical needs above that.

0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:30.640
<v Speaker 4>Again, it's not that he wants more sex. That's not

0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:34.040
<v Speaker 4>the problem, because like I've been in relationships before where

0:43:34.440 --> 0:43:37.120
<v Speaker 4>where I've said, hey, like, you know, what do you

0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:39.759
<v Speaker 4>think about trying to increase how much sex we have

0:43:39.840 --> 0:43:41.640
<v Speaker 4>or how much intimacy have because I've been in a

0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:42.799
<v Speaker 4>stage where I've wanted it more.

0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:45.000
<v Speaker 3>But it's the way he's gone about it that's the problem.

0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:47.239
<v Speaker 1>Like there are always going to be times, ebbs and

0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:49.080
<v Speaker 1>flows in a relationship that each of you are going

0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:50.960
<v Speaker 1>to come to the table and maybe one day your

0:43:51.000 --> 0:43:53.840
<v Speaker 1>vaginismus is going to get better and you're going to

0:43:53.880 --> 0:43:55.120
<v Speaker 1>feel like it and you're going to want it, and

0:43:55.160 --> 0:43:57.359
<v Speaker 1>maybe he is going to be too tired from work,

0:43:57.400 --> 0:44:00.359
<v Speaker 1>Like these are normal conversations to have. The the way

0:44:00.400 --> 0:44:02.920
<v Speaker 1>he's doing it is fucked and it is not normal.

0:44:03.200 --> 0:44:03.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:44:03.520 --> 0:44:05.520
<v Speaker 2>I feel we're both so angry about this. The only

0:44:05.520 --> 0:44:07.120
<v Speaker 2>other part that like, I come back to it. I

0:44:07.120 --> 0:44:08.400
<v Speaker 2>know we kind of touched it at the beginning, but

0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:12.080
<v Speaker 2>there's some really important conversations to be had around how

0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:14.080
<v Speaker 2>are you going to navigate the periods of life where

0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:16.719
<v Speaker 2>sex just can't be a priority, because that's going to

0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:19.520
<v Speaker 2>happen to you. Like, I can't stress enough how much

0:44:19.600 --> 0:44:21.880
<v Speaker 2>my sex life with Matt change once we had kids.

0:44:22.120 --> 0:44:25.640
<v Speaker 2>It has never been the same, and it may be

0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:27.680
<v Speaker 2>we still have really young kids. We're still on crazy

0:44:27.719 --> 0:44:30.000
<v Speaker 2>sleep cycles. Like we still have to try and do

0:44:30.040 --> 0:44:31.640
<v Speaker 2>it when the kids are napping so that they don't

0:44:31.680 --> 0:44:33.640
<v Speaker 2>walk in on us, right, Like, there's definitely a lot

0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:37.600
<v Speaker 2>of limitations once you are juggling careers and children. You

0:44:37.640 --> 0:44:39.239
<v Speaker 2>may never have children, you may not want them, But

0:44:39.280 --> 0:44:42.799
<v Speaker 2>if you do, what does your relationship look like when

0:44:42.800 --> 0:44:45.319
<v Speaker 2>you're no longer able to have sex with him in

0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:47.279
<v Speaker 2>the way that he wants. How is he going to

0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:49.279
<v Speaker 2>punish you? Like, how is he going to show up

0:44:49.280 --> 0:44:51.160
<v Speaker 2>in that relationship? What is that going to look like?

0:44:51.480 --> 0:44:53.960
<v Speaker 2>They're really big conversations if this is the most important

0:44:53.960 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 2>thing to him, because ultimately, what you can sustain now

0:44:57.680 --> 0:44:59.759
<v Speaker 2>will not be this in the future, and you need

0:44:59.800 --> 0:45:02.080
<v Speaker 2>someone one who is strapped in on the right of

0:45:02.120 --> 0:45:04.880
<v Speaker 2>life and cares about all the other amazing qualities that

0:45:04.920 --> 0:45:07.000
<v Speaker 2>you have that you can bring to the table more

0:45:07.080 --> 0:45:10.000
<v Speaker 2>so so that it doesn't deteriorate the relationship. We actually

0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:13.120
<v Speaker 2>had a full conversation around vaginismus as well with Jesse Stevens,

0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:16.040
<v Speaker 2>and she speaks about relationships that she'd been in where

0:45:16.040 --> 0:45:18.560
<v Speaker 2>she persevered through the pain because she thought that's what

0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:20.640
<v Speaker 2>she had to do. And then she speaks about her

0:45:20.680 --> 0:45:23.960
<v Speaker 2>now relationship with her husband, the father of her child,

0:45:24.000 --> 0:45:26.120
<v Speaker 2>and how he approaches sex with her and how that

0:45:26.160 --> 0:45:28.960
<v Speaker 2>has completely changed her ability to show up in the

0:45:28.960 --> 0:45:31.640
<v Speaker 2>relationship sexually and also in a way that makes her

0:45:31.680 --> 0:45:34.759
<v Speaker 2>feel love, safe and secure. We'll link that episode in

0:45:34.760 --> 0:45:35.360
<v Speaker 2>the show notes.

0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:37.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she spoke about that so well.

0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:39.080
<v Speaker 2>Actually, yeah, please go and have a listen to itu.

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:40.319
<v Speaker 2>I think it'll really help you.

0:45:40.520 --> 0:45:42.239
<v Speaker 4>But not even have I listen to it. Get your

0:45:42.239 --> 0:45:44.200
<v Speaker 4>partners to listen to it, like that is something that

0:45:44.239 --> 0:45:45.719
<v Speaker 4>he needs to listen to. He needs to hear it

0:45:45.760 --> 0:45:46.880
<v Speaker 4>from another perspective.

0:45:46.920 --> 0:45:49.759
<v Speaker 1>And also the fact that the way her partner came

0:45:49.840 --> 0:45:52.920
<v Speaker 1>to that situation showed up is imperative to your situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Now totally okay. Question number three. I've been dating my

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend for the last year and a half. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>a nurse for the last five years, working with children,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've seen some pretty terrible things. When we first

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<v Speaker 1>started dating, he mentioned that he didn't like hearing quote

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<v Speaker 1>horrible stories, so I lessened to them. Just recently, I

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about work again and he said the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to hear about these stories.

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<v Speaker 1>I obviously don't want to upset him, but from time

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<v Speaker 1>to time I want him to listen to my day

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<v Speaker 1>and just vent. Am I being ridiculous by being upset

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<v Speaker 1>that my partner can't handle listening to my stories here

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<v Speaker 1>and there? Or do I just appease him and stop

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<v Speaker 1>talking about work altogether. It's a tricky one.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a tricky one, and I think it's important

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out. Which might be hard to do, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think you have to Is he like this around

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<v Speaker 2>the mundane stuff as well?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he like this around you talking about all aspects

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<v Speaker 2>of work? Or is it only about the stuff that's

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<v Speaker 2>super traumatic?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Does he show an interest in your day to day

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<v Speaker 2>when it pertains to other parts of your life or

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<v Speaker 2>is it only around the stuff that is like truly

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<v Speaker 2>deeply traumatic, Because I would say there are a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people out there who can't handle listening to or

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<v Speaker 2>talking about super distressing things, like it affects them on

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<v Speaker 2>a level that makes them then feel uncomfortable, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of sharing the load of your trauma right

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<v Speaker 2>like you're trauma dumping on them, which is not fair

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<v Speaker 2>on them, especially if it then affects their day and

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<v Speaker 2>how they feel.

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<v Speaker 3>So that I think is okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, if you've chosen the occupation of being

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<v Speaker 2>a nurse because you have that incredible empathetic, caring, beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>quality of you, and you have the resilience to be

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<v Speaker 2>exposed to it, then I would say it's okay. If

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<v Speaker 2>there's aspects of your job that he mentally and physically

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't want to be exposed to. But it's not okay

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<v Speaker 2>if he uses that as an excuse to not listen

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<v Speaker 2>to your day. That's a very different thing. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think that it will become obvious which of those two

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<v Speaker 2>things are playing out here.

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<v Speaker 1>I can relate to this to the nth degree, like

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<v Speaker 1>exactly I was in this identical situation where I was

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<v Speaker 1>working at a pediatric hospital and I saw horrific things.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you see her.

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<v Speaker 1>Every thing's in any hospital, right, but it's always hits

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<v Speaker 1>a bit different when it's a child, to the point that,

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<v Speaker 1>like a big part of my job was post mortems

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<v Speaker 1>on children like I was involved in.

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<v Speaker 3>That I could not listen to that.

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<v Speaker 2>We wouldn't even as you're saying, that makes me want

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<v Speaker 2>to cry, Yeah, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Is why I completely understand this situation as a whole,

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<v Speaker 1>And I also understand him because I've been through it.

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<v Speaker 3>You as a healthcare worker.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, anyone in any job, right, but you want to

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<v Speaker 4>come home and you want to debrief about your day

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<v Speaker 4>because part of that's selfish reasons. Like part of that

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<v Speaker 4>is like you want to get things off your chest

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<v Speaker 4>and you do want to unload, and it's a type

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<v Speaker 4>of therapy. And the other part is we all want

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<v Speaker 4>to connect with our partner about our work in our

0:48:32.239 --> 0:48:35.200
<v Speaker 4>day and what we're experiencing. Because they understand then maybe

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit more if you come home at the

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<v Speaker 4>end of the day and you're a bit flat and

0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:41.080
<v Speaker 4>you need a bit more extra you know, love and

0:48:41.120 --> 0:48:45.319
<v Speaker 4>care for whatever reason, they understand more, the problem is

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<v Speaker 4>in that well, not everyone can deal with it.

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<v Speaker 3>And when you have been in that world for a.

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<v Speaker 4>Long time, if you know the healthcare world, for example,

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<v Speaker 4>because this is what you're talking about, things are less.

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<v Speaker 3>Shocking to you.

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<v Speaker 1>You become very used to something that is very show

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<v Speaker 1>and abnormal to someone else, and it becomes your normal

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<v Speaker 1>because you're dealing with it day in and day out,

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<v Speaker 1>and you sometimes forget that other people don't know anything

0:49:06.440 --> 0:49:08.560
<v Speaker 1>about that, and that is really confronting for a lot

0:49:08.560 --> 0:49:11.320
<v Speaker 1>of people. So for you, every day you're with unwell children.

0:49:11.480 --> 0:49:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Your partner could be in marketing and it hits him different.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think, unfortunately, you probably need to find a

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<v Speaker 1>way where you can tell him about your day and

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<v Speaker 1>how bad it was without going into the details, because

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<v Speaker 1>you do need to still have that connection with your partner.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely totally. I agree with you completely, brit Like. It's

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<v Speaker 2>weird to me, right like and not weird.

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<v Speaker 3>It's important.

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<v Speaker 2>How amazing are doctors, How amazing are nurses? How amazing

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<v Speaker 2>are ambulance workers and people who show up.

0:49:36.520 --> 0:49:39.080
<v Speaker 3>Police people that are in these confronting situations.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's wild that I go to work and I

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<v Speaker 2>design jewelry, and I sit here behind a microphone and

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<v Speaker 2>this is my job, you know, this is what I

0:49:47.080 --> 0:49:49.439
<v Speaker 2>do for work. And then there's other people who had

0:49:49.440 --> 0:49:52.480
<v Speaker 2>their hands inside people's chests today and that's what they

0:49:52.520 --> 0:49:55.120
<v Speaker 2>did to go to work. Like the variation of what

0:49:55.160 --> 0:49:59.440
<v Speaker 2>we are experiencing. Our world's apart. And I've dated someone

0:49:59.480 --> 0:50:03.000
<v Speaker 2>who worked in the medical world before. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>know parts of the stories, but I don't think I

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<v Speaker 2>could have dealt with the dailiness of it. You know,

0:50:08.080 --> 0:50:09.600
<v Speaker 2>every so often he would come home and tell me

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<v Speaker 2>something that had happened, and it was sporadic, and I

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<v Speaker 2>appreciated that he didn't expose me to the depths of

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<v Speaker 2>what he dealt with day to day, and he was

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<v Speaker 2>very good at compartmentalizing it. It didn't affect him in

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<v Speaker 2>the way that I think it would have affected me.

0:50:21.160 --> 0:50:23.600
<v Speaker 2>And maybe the things that you're dealing with you are

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<v Speaker 2>able to compartmentalize in some way. And if you're not

0:50:26.440 --> 0:50:29.240
<v Speaker 2>able to compartmentalize it, if you do need to speak

0:50:29.239 --> 0:50:31.480
<v Speaker 2>to someone, then maybe it's like you speak to your

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<v Speaker 2>partner about the parts of it that you know he's

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<v Speaker 2>okay with and the parts that he can handle and

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<v Speaker 2>then you're go and speak to a therapist about the

0:50:37.280 --> 0:50:39.160
<v Speaker 2>rest of it, because I do think it's important for

0:50:39.200 --> 0:50:41.640
<v Speaker 2>you to have someone too traumatum to, but I don't

0:50:41.640 --> 0:50:43.880
<v Speaker 2>think it has to be your partner. The only thing

0:50:43.920 --> 0:50:45.359
<v Speaker 2>I come back to is, and it's what I said

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<v Speaker 2>in the start, is that it's very easy to use

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<v Speaker 2>the excuse of oh I can't you know, like I

0:50:50.239 --> 0:50:52.880
<v Speaker 2>can't deal with this, But that's actually a lack of

0:50:52.920 --> 0:50:56.000
<v Speaker 2>interest in your job. And I think look for signs.

0:50:56.120 --> 0:50:58.040
<v Speaker 2>Does he show interest in the other things you do?

0:50:58.040 --> 0:50:59.759
<v Speaker 2>Does he show interest in what you've done on the

0:50:59.800 --> 0:51:01.920
<v Speaker 2>week and on your friends, in your family, Does he

0:51:02.000 --> 0:51:04.160
<v Speaker 2>show interest in your life? If he shows interest in

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<v Speaker 2>you in every other aspect because he loves and adores

0:51:07.000 --> 0:51:09.680
<v Speaker 2>you and supports you, but just can't handle the trauma

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<v Speaker 2>side of your job, then that's okay.

0:51:11.440 --> 0:51:13.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The interest has to be there in other as

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<v Speaker 1>part of your life constantly. Otherwise that you're like why

0:51:15.360 --> 0:51:17.160
<v Speaker 1>are you dating me? Like what am I ham sandwich?

0:51:17.280 --> 0:51:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Like you know, there has to be that interest. But

0:51:19.040 --> 0:51:20.840
<v Speaker 1>what I will say is like, of course, speak to

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<v Speaker 1>a therapist if you need that. And your job is

0:51:22.520 --> 0:51:25.920
<v Speaker 1>that traumatic and the hospitals also provide people. But I

0:51:25.920 --> 0:51:28.960
<v Speaker 1>mean something I used to do is unload the heavy stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Unload unfortunately sounds like a heavy word, but it is.

0:51:31.480 --> 0:51:33.880
<v Speaker 1>But you would unload with and maybe another colleague that

0:51:34.000 --> 0:51:35.560
<v Speaker 1>was there at the time, so someone else that goes

0:51:35.560 --> 0:51:37.560
<v Speaker 1>through it every day as well that relates. They can

0:51:37.640 --> 0:51:39.319
<v Speaker 1>quick you can, you can get it out, you can,

0:51:39.440 --> 0:51:41.600
<v Speaker 1>you can discuss whatever you want about it. I was

0:51:41.680 --> 0:51:43.520
<v Speaker 1>very lucky I did that with my sister Sherry, because

0:51:43.520 --> 0:51:46.000
<v Speaker 1>we work together in this exact same hospital for most

0:51:46.040 --> 0:51:48.680
<v Speaker 1>of our life. So I was hers and her she

0:51:48.840 --> 0:51:50.120
<v Speaker 1>was mine, and then we could go back to our

0:51:50.120 --> 0:51:50.680
<v Speaker 1>partners and just.

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<v Speaker 3>Say that top level stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So there will always be someone that you can discuss

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<v Speaker 1>these things with. But I do think you have to

0:51:57.680 --> 0:52:01.080
<v Speaker 1>respect your partner in a level if he's like I actually, viscerally,

0:52:01.719 --> 0:52:04.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm not that kind of person. I can't handle these conversations,

0:52:04.440 --> 0:52:06.080
<v Speaker 1>so like you do have to meet him halfway in

0:52:06.120 --> 0:52:06.759
<v Speaker 1>that capacity.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree, I totally agree.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think you know, if that's the only thing

0:52:10.800 --> 0:52:12.319
<v Speaker 2>that you have going on in your life in terms

0:52:12.360 --> 0:52:15.120
<v Speaker 2>of like a problem in your relationship, it's not like.

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<v Speaker 3>Your relationships not over dundum dum.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think it's just being aware of where is

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<v Speaker 2>he doing an excellent job in other aspects and if

0:52:22.320 --> 0:52:24.200
<v Speaker 2>this is the part that he's you know, it's letting

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<v Speaker 2>you down in then I think finding places and other

0:52:26.680 --> 0:52:29.520
<v Speaker 2>people to offload and do that trauma dump with because

0:52:29.920 --> 0:52:32.200
<v Speaker 2>it seems like your partner can't handle that part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>We have received from you guys a few after maths

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<v Speaker 2>like ask guncut after maths and.

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<v Speaker 3>The follow up of what happened? And we always think this.

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<v Speaker 2>We're always like, what did happen to that woman who

0:52:42.719 --> 0:52:45.279
<v Speaker 2>was dating multiple people? What did happen to the guy

0:52:45.320 --> 0:52:47.680
<v Speaker 2>who never showed interest in your work? Like we want

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<v Speaker 2>to know what happens with the advice that we give you.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you have ever received, if we've ever answered

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<v Speaker 2>one of your ask guncut questions, please can you send

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<v Speaker 2>it into the DMS just righte ask on cut aftermath

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<v Speaker 2>because we would love to do a catch up episode

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<v Speaker 2>with ask uncut aftermaths.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a few of them, we need a couple more.

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<v Speaker 2>So tell us what happened in your life and kind

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