Speaker 1: You need get one life, and it's like, why would
Speaker 1: you not enjoy it? Why would you not work hard
Speaker 1: for it or do what you want in it?
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Rise and Conquer Podcast. I'm your
Speaker 2: host Georgie Stevenson, former lawyer turned entrepreneur, social media personality
Speaker 2: and personal development junkie. This podcast is for my girl
Speaker 2: gang who want to feed their mind with positive and
Speaker 2: expansive thoughts to help them step into their power and
Speaker 2: live their most authentic life, which had a variety of
Speaker 2: topics including mindset, business, relationships, health, and so much more. Basically,
Speaker 2: wherever you are on your journey, I want to help
Speaker 2: you feel inspired and empowered to rise up and conquer
Speaker 2: your next bold move. I know that's going to look
Speaker 2: different for everyone, but just no, I'm right here by
Speaker 2: your side and that you have the RNC community behind you.
Speaker 2: Let's do this. Hello and welcome back to the Rise
Speaker 2: and Conker Podcast. Today I am joined by Olympic, World,
Speaker 2: European and Commonwealth medalist Asher Phillips. Yes you heard that right.
Speaker 2: She has so many medals and so many achievements under
Speaker 2: her belt. Asha is an absolute inspiration and powerhouse. In
Speaker 2: today's chat, we find out what it's really like being
Speaker 2: an Olympic medalist, including a day on her plate and
Speaker 2: what her training looks like. Also, Asher chats about why
Speaker 2: her mental fitness is really eighty percent of winning and succeeding,
Speaker 2: with only twenty percent being a credit to the physical
Speaker 2: aspect of her sport, which I just found mind blowing
Speaker 2: but absolutely love. Asher talked about why discipline, overcoming fit
Speaker 2: and doubt, and also making sure she's her own motivation
Speaker 2: is so important to her. I loved this inspirational chat
Speaker 2: and I know you guys will too. Let's get into
Speaker 2: the show. Asher. Welcome to the Rise and Conquer Podcasts.
Speaker 3: Hello, thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: I'm very excited to chat to you today from well,
Speaker 2: you're across the world, we're completely different time zone, so
Speaker 2: I really appreciate you making the time to chat to
Speaker 2: me in my community today.
Speaker 1: Oh no, this is actually very exciting Australia for that,
Speaker 1: that's one of my best ever trips, so it's nice
Speaker 1: to feel like I'm back over there, so at some
Speaker 1: sort anyway.
Speaker 2: Oh, we love to hear it as So for those
Speaker 2: who don't know who are Asher, could you give us
Speaker 2: a little insight of who you are and what you do.
Speaker 1: So I am an Olympic spinter. I went for Great Britain.
Speaker 1: I am I used to do jumpolining who I used
Speaker 1: to compete for Great Britain as well. So I used
Speaker 1: to choose sports, but that one was in Olympic sports.
Speaker 1: Had a tragic accident that made me turn to athletics
Speaker 1: as my main sport. I am an Olympic medalist, European middalist,
Speaker 1: World medalist and a Commonwealth modalist and the fastest men
Speaker 1: of the sixty in the UV.
Speaker 2: Wow. So lots of medals happening, lots of achievements happening,
Speaker 2: first of all, are big congratulations. I would love to
Speaker 2: I would love to chat to you about being an
Speaker 2: Olympic medalists because it's not every day. I've got someone
Speaker 2: on the podcast who, like you, has have achieved so much,
Speaker 2: especially in an athletic way. And yeah, like I said,
Speaker 2: it's a huge accomplishment at first of all, So for
Speaker 2: those who don't know, can you give us a little
Speaker 2: background on what like what you have to do to
Speaker 2: get to an Olympic metal stage?
Speaker 1: Well, your life practically focuses on it. It's like to
Speaker 1: get some Olympics everyone says in life you always have
Speaker 1: to take sacrifices. But my favorite saying is one of
Speaker 1: my favorites, is it's like you don't make sacrifices, you
Speaker 1: make choices. Unless like I make the best choices, the
Speaker 1: best decisions that I could possibly make.
Speaker 3: To get where I want to be.
Speaker 1: And for me to go to the Olympics, obviously, I've
Speaker 1: had to make sense of not going to this trip
Speaker 1: or play with my have fun with my family, have
Speaker 1: a drink here or there, not eat a burger and
Speaker 1: chips every day. Like there's several things that are so
Speaker 1: minimal to us, but they mean so much because if
Speaker 1: I didn't recover well form after my training session, that
Speaker 1: could affect the next training session. So it's like the
Speaker 1: smallest things build up and it's all about really saying focus,
Speaker 1: believing in yourself, because I feel like you forget to
Speaker 1: do that a lot and just fight for your position.
Speaker 3: And it's track.
Speaker 1: It it's not like it's a dogic dog world, but
Speaker 1: it's very much of a if you're faster and fast
Speaker 1: and if you're not, you're not. That's how basically the
Speaker 1: team is picked and you have to go out there
Speaker 1: and there have to be mentally strong to go out
Speaker 1: and compete against seven other girls who've worked just as
Speaker 1: hard as you, But you got to feel like who's
Speaker 1: work the hardest. To be honest, that doesn't always matter,
Speaker 1: because it's all about mental game and who is the
Speaker 1: strong minded and who will succeed on that day, And
Speaker 1: it's all about having conversations with your psychologist and with
Speaker 1: your coach and making sure everything is basically on the
Speaker 1: right wave and if that all works that well, you'll
Speaker 1: make the team.
Speaker 2: Yeah wow, I love that. First up, you've very much
Speaker 2: touched on like the mindset aspect, because I think a
Speaker 2: lot of people would think, oh, you know, athletics, olympium,
Speaker 2: it's very much all physical. But I love that you
Speaker 2: touched on the mental side. Did you is like, is
Speaker 2: that something you've always known or was there kind of
Speaker 2: a moment where you're like, I need to really make
Speaker 2: sure I'm working on my mental game too.
Speaker 1: I have to think, well, when I was younger, they
Speaker 1: think I knew much because then again, my mom and
Speaker 1: aunt are qualified counselors, so oh thank you, so I
Speaker 1: didn't actually have to go far. But then they can
Speaker 1: only do so much to you because there your parents,
Speaker 1: and they need to take you after a while. I
Speaker 1: don't tell you anything, so I could do by myself,
Speaker 1: but they are be there to help and they will
Speaker 1: need to succeed. But I do believe sport is like
Speaker 1: twenty percent physical and eighty percent mental because one one
Speaker 1: thing and your game is over. Like there's in a
Speaker 1: call up room, so we have to sit in this room.
Speaker 1: So I feel like twenty to forty minutes before a
Speaker 1: race and it's just you and seven other girls, and
Speaker 1: they're just like, wow, one of us is gonna win,
Speaker 1: one of us is gonna lose, one of us gonna
Speaker 1: like doing well.
Speaker 3: Like there's all different.
Speaker 1: Types of things that could happen in the outcome, but
Speaker 1: it's just like anything in this room could just ruin everything.
Speaker 1: So you've got girls that we stare each other out,
Speaker 1: trying to mess up your game, try to talk to you,
Speaker 1: and honestly, it is intense.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's quiet. You've got people that don't want to talk.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you've got to talk, and it's just like it's
Speaker 1: like it's one or lost kind of in this last
Speaker 1: forty minutes. If someone messes with your game and you
Speaker 1: really just have to stay on it honestly, because you've
Speaker 1: looked so hard and then you get to the input
Speaker 1: and you feel like can you actually do it? And
Speaker 1: it's like believe in yourself. I personally feel like the
Speaker 1: majority of people are. I don't think people should have pachologies.
Speaker 1: I feel like everyone should because I have my like
Speaker 1: to say, once a week and I speak to her
Speaker 1: and it's like I offload and I just it just
Speaker 1: kind of resets me for the week.
Speaker 3: Because you're working.
Speaker 1: So hard with your training partners, are your competitors, your
Speaker 1: coach is always on your back.
Speaker 3: You've got to try and lose this way in the gym.
Speaker 1: It's like so many elements that are just draining on
Speaker 1: you and then you just have to learn how to
Speaker 1: release it and just keep going and pushing and being strong.
Speaker 3: Like with like I said, we're all human.
Speaker 1: We are going to like like fail at some point.
Speaker 1: But it's like how do you do a failure? And
Speaker 1: with sports there are a lot of lows, then there
Speaker 1: are highs, and it's like how do you pick yourself
Speaker 1: up nulling this doesn't go well this week and next
Speaker 1: week and the week after handy races because I could
Speaker 1: have six seven terrible races for that one lace that
Speaker 1: I did, like seventh or eighth one will be the
Speaker 1: most important one and that's the best one. Let's just say.
Speaker 1: And that's all I needed. But in the process, just like,
Speaker 1: how do I keep going? I think that's a sweetart.
Speaker 2: That is so true, Asher, and I think I, well,
Speaker 2: I love that you touched on the fact that you
Speaker 2: do see a psychologist weekly, and it's almost like this
Speaker 2: brain dump. I have to ask you though, so you know,
Speaker 2: you said you see a psychologist weekly, is there anything
Speaker 2: else that you do for your mental fitness to yeah,
Speaker 2: really be your best and really you know ace that
Speaker 2: mental game.
Speaker 1: Uh, well, with her, we learned that different techniques. I
Speaker 1: do a lot of mindful work, a lot of being present.
Speaker 1: So like you know when you go to yoga, Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, I first my mind would just be everywhere.
Speaker 1: I could not focus more than five minutes. I kind
Speaker 1: of got board straight away, and it's actually want to
Speaker 1: be here. But I think maybe an hour was too far.
Speaker 1: It was too long to start with, so love like
Speaker 1: got back into It'd be more like ten minutes to
Speaker 1: learn how to be present. So to say it, I
Speaker 1: get distracted really fast at training because there's a lot
Speaker 1: of banter when it comes to school, and I mess
Speaker 1: around too much and my coach does get frustrated, but
Speaker 1: he knows that's my personality, so he just learns how
Speaker 1: to work with me rather than against So that's the
Speaker 1: good thing.
Speaker 3: But we go to training and like just before.
Speaker 1: My run, I would set my mind and like say,
Speaker 1: I should be present, do this, do that what he
Speaker 1: wants to have the run, and like have a conversation
Speaker 1: with myself, take a deep breath, and then do the run.
Speaker 1: And ever since I've started doing that, they've got better.
Speaker 1: So it's like I can't concentrate, say it. I can't concentrate.
Speaker 1: It's like really hard to just hold it for the
Speaker 1: whole day. I think it'll just tie me up because
Speaker 1: that's just not my personality. So it's all about learning
Speaker 1: small techniques that help the big ones. And it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: being present just before my run, because if I had
Speaker 1: to do blocks, I'd have to be present for that
Speaker 1: moment and then do the run and then I can
Speaker 1: rest afterwards. And it's like trying to be mindful when
Speaker 1: I'm at home, Like if I've got to do some task,
Speaker 1: be present, do it now. And do stuff like that,
Speaker 1: because then it just trains my brain and we have
Speaker 1: a lot of visualization as well, trying to be inside
Speaker 1: your body and trying to run and trying to work
Speaker 1: on the bits that work well and the ones I
Speaker 1: got wrong try and fix them.
Speaker 3: So stuff like that I would.
Speaker 2: Try, And I love at the start how you were saying,
Speaker 2: you know, if you tried it for an hour, you
Speaker 2: would get so distracted, So you try it in smaller
Speaker 2: amounts of time, which I think, like, I think back
Speaker 2: to when I started meditating, and if I tried to
Speaker 2: do even twenty minutes, I you know, would fail and
Speaker 2: be like, oh, I can't even do it. But I
Speaker 2: started with five minutes and kind of like built myself
Speaker 2: up and that has worked so much better than just
Speaker 2: trying a long amount of time at the start, because I.
Speaker 3: Was so long, you can what's a TV show in that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's such a long amount of time. I don't
Speaker 2: know about that. And then so Asha, we've chatted about
Speaker 2: the mental side of things, which I love that you
Speaker 2: touched on first, but tell us about the physical side
Speaker 2: of things. So, for example, what does the day in
Speaker 2: your life look like? You know, in regards to training
Speaker 2: and eating and that sort of side of things.
Speaker 1: Okay, so in the morning, I depending on usually chained
Speaker 1: bout nine o'clock and then I'll get up, but I
Speaker 1: would say two hours before I have to leave no
Speaker 1: single fast that training. So it's half an hour to
Speaker 1: roll out of bed, half an hour to get dressed,
Speaker 1: half an hour to make breakfast, and then try to
Speaker 1: leave on time for the half an hour and need
Speaker 1: the house, which really happens.
Speaker 3: I'm always like twenty on leaving, but.
Speaker 1: I always make it on time. But you know, you
Speaker 1: just want to leave on time so you can breathe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that never really happens with me, so it's a bit frustrating.
Speaker 1: I have a breakfast in my breakfast. I don't know
Speaker 1: if this is actually right or but I don't think
Speaker 1: my nutritionis has complained too much, you know, be like
Speaker 1: for like turkey.
Speaker 3: Rushers and Friday.
Speaker 1: A little body find that every morning bit taste nice
Speaker 1: and it's just for me, A cupp of tea or
Speaker 1: a coffee that I've just started getting into. My day
Speaker 1: does not start without a hot drink. I will be
Speaker 1: late for training if I do not have a hot drink.
Speaker 1: That is what my mum has embedded in me. Get
Speaker 1: to training. We have like our first half hour of
Speaker 1: what is it like, get yourself into, get your ready
Speaker 1: and roll, stretch and do all the looks and crannies
Speaker 1: that our physios want us to be before we start
Speaker 1: the session, or just stuff that our coach wants to
Speaker 1: do before the pre workout. Then we'll do a room
Speaker 1: arp have a running session. That will change where we
Speaker 1: will have a acceleration session or death session we call it,
Speaker 1: and that would be accelerating will be.
Speaker 3: Like zero to sixty meters, and.
Speaker 1: That would just be fast or just working on the
Speaker 1: first blocks, all different types of things.
Speaker 3: It will change.
Speaker 1: Then we could have or we could have a few
Speaker 1: bits of that, but then like kind of runs up
Speaker 1: to three hundred meters outside, which is never nice. That's
Speaker 1: why hence the death part in that. Then we'll have
Speaker 1: gym afterwards. Some would be a weddingitician like lifting, or
Speaker 1: some would just be exercises to work on the small
Speaker 1: parts of the bodys that we seem to forget. Then
Speaker 1: I might have treatment after the session.
Speaker 3: Then I come home, have lunch, probably a bigger one.
Speaker 1: Well, I just felt like every sme on camps I
Speaker 1: hate too much, so I had to cut out something
Speaker 1: and that was it with me. So now I have
Speaker 1: less options when I go away, so probably have like chicken,
Speaker 1: some rice or I min smooth pasta, more spaghetti like
Speaker 1: Boris kind of thing, and then yeah, if I've made enough,
Speaker 1: I probably have that for dinner as well, if not
Speaker 1: the opposite one.
Speaker 3: So that would be my day.
Speaker 2: Amazing. I love how you say it like it's just
Speaker 2: so simple and so normal.
Speaker 1: No, that's awesome.
Speaker 2: You can see a lot goes into it, just like
Speaker 2: your mental game. So I want to chat to you
Speaker 2: about kind of you know, your goals, reaching your goals,
Speaker 2: discipline and maybe fear and doubt that might come into play.
Speaker 2: So obviously to become an Olympic Olympic medal is you
Speaker 2: obviously have to have amazing discipline and dedication. So I'm
Speaker 2: sure my rn C gang would love to hear some
Speaker 2: of your tips and tricks.
Speaker 3: Oh, my mental game, do you know?
Speaker 1: It is the hardest thing to do, But I will
Speaker 1: say it's gonna see you are believe in yourself, because
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of people that will tell me, oh,
Speaker 1: it's just never going to come back. She's never gonna
Speaker 1: do that because I will never forget when I did
Speaker 1: my knee, so I discaped my money to all my
Speaker 1: ligaments and I had to have two operations. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: also and I fractured it, so I have two operations,
Speaker 1: one to put the fraction down, one to give me
Speaker 1: a reconstruction of the ACL. And that was when I
Speaker 1: just turned seventeen. And I tell you, instantly, people who
Speaker 1: wrote me off they did not think, oh, she would
Speaker 1: come back. It was just like unheard the first thing
Speaker 1: to have such an injury in the sport, but to
Speaker 1: come back from it, it was something else. And I
Speaker 1: just think, I can I think this sort of people
Speaker 1: think of me like that's that's it. Like when I
Speaker 1: started to believe them, and I tell you you as
Speaker 1: my mom, my mom said, I believe in it and
Speaker 1: I do this and I'll help you.
Speaker 3: And it's that because I.
Speaker 1: Believed in my mom, I was able to believe. That's
Speaker 1: what kind of kept me going. It wasn't the fact
Speaker 1: that I believed in myself.
Speaker 3: I knew my mom.
Speaker 1: Believed in me, so that's all I could hang on to.
Speaker 1: And it was one of the hardest things. Like I
Speaker 1: just turned seventeen, I just started college. It was sixth
Speaker 1: form or stuff, and like I went to all girls'
Speaker 1: school and I went in to college with boys, and
Speaker 1: I was just like, wow, I'm fixing new and I've
Speaker 1: got this fat brace on my leg. I'm always on crutches.
Speaker 1: I don't feel myself because I'm such an outgoing person,
Speaker 1: so bubbly, and it was just like I should just
Speaker 1: sink into the chair. Like when I did the injury,
Speaker 1: my family would set food up around me, go to work,
Speaker 1: so I crawl down the stairs first, set through around me,
Speaker 1: and then when they came back, call back up. So
Speaker 1: twice a day, once in the morning, once at night.
Speaker 1: It was like that bad at the time I was
Speaker 1: in And to know that my mum still looked at
Speaker 1: me and believed in me was like one of the
Speaker 1: biggest things, because it took.
Speaker 3: Me a while to learn to be in myself. And
Speaker 3: it's just.
Speaker 1: Only because so many niggasive people get into my head.
Speaker 1: And I was just like, why am I listening to
Speaker 1: people that don't know me, don't care about me, and
Speaker 1: basically actually even in my life, So why would I
Speaker 1: listen to someone that's got no relevance? And it took
Speaker 1: me so long to fix myself up. I actually know
Speaker 1: you can do this.
Speaker 3: Maybe it was the baby steps that did it.
Speaker 1: So you'll be walking about coaches, me back in the gym,
Speaker 1: me being able to.
Speaker 3: Just walk in.
Speaker 1: General, then job then run like all those small things
Speaker 1: meant so much to me. And I realized when it
Speaker 1: was just like the focus that this is you. Then
Speaker 1: things started to change so that when I told someone like, Okay,
Speaker 1: well how can I do it? It's literally you look
Speaker 1: yourself in the mirror and you have that conversation and
Speaker 1: it's a bit weird because you took to yourself over
Speaker 1: and looking at yourself and it is even worse. But
Speaker 1: even though it's a great view, I must say, but
Speaker 1: you just need to really ask yourself like what do
Speaker 1: you want?
Speaker 3: How are you going to do it?
Speaker 1: And it's having that a deep conversation because no one
Speaker 1: else gonna have it with you, Like so my coach
Speaker 1: can coach me, and my sec coaches can do what
Speaker 1: stuff in the gym, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I'm the only person that's going to be on that track.
Speaker 1: And it's like, okay, so what do you want? You're
Speaker 1: going to You've got everything you want. Now you've got
Speaker 1: your coach, you've got this, you're in better shape, but
Speaker 1: how do you now make that do that or the
Speaker 1: extra step? And it really is believe it in yourself,
Speaker 1: learning how to silence the negativity, and then it gets
Speaker 1: some point where you tell that negative negativity into a positive.
Speaker 3: So I didn't want to tell people, well, you can
Speaker 3: run at me, and don't believe I'm going to do that.
Speaker 1: But I just think it's like they're just hating on you,
Speaker 1: and they just they're because they were so negative and
Speaker 1: they probably couldn't have done it. They're trying to offload
Speaker 1: onto you. It was like, not here, honey, because I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm just toopis for this. So my mental
Speaker 1: game is like, no one can trample on me because firstly,
Speaker 1: if I do that, then I've allowed them to do it.
Speaker 3: It shouldn't be getting any close to me.
Speaker 1: So say someone's agnoyed for day and I've seen it happen.
Speaker 1: Someone went through it the other day and they were
Speaker 1: just someone got into their heads from the smallest of
Speaker 1: things and they went on about it for a good
Speaker 1: half an hour. Like this firstly happened the day before,
Speaker 1: And now you've brought into a new day. Now, why
Speaker 1: would you do that? Now you've ruined another twenty four
Speaker 1: hours that you could have done something good with. And
Speaker 1: he just like basically just ranted, ranted advantage. I was
Speaker 1: just like, this person's one. But when you let someone
Speaker 1: get into your head, they've won. And that's one thing
Speaker 1: I'm not going to allow people to do to get
Speaker 1: my head and bring me over. Basically, it doesn't work
Speaker 1: like that. It's not like they gave me chocolates or
Speaker 1: sweets or flowers to put a smile on my face.
Speaker 3: No, they were.
Speaker 1: Negative and I let that feed on me and I
Speaker 1: was just like, no, that's not allowed. So when I
Speaker 1: watched him do it, I was like, you're allowing this
Speaker 1: person to win.
Speaker 3: Why would you do that?
Speaker 1: I was like, no, no, no, it's this is stat
Speaker 1: I said, no, no maicant excuses. I'll tell you this Now,
Speaker 1: I will be angry for twenty four hours, but I
Speaker 1: will not let last any longer than that. I've had this,
Speaker 1: I've had that discussion. So if I'm mad angry, I
Speaker 1: want to eat something bad. Sometimes you have to feel
Speaker 1: into it because I'll only go insane after that. So
Speaker 1: I would give it twenty four hours, but best believe
Speaker 1: when it's finished, I'm not letting affect me again. I
Speaker 1: can't because that is unhealthy to me, onto my training,
Speaker 1: onto my goals that I want to reach. So you
Speaker 1: just have to let go. It's miserable and hard it
Speaker 1: might sound to people. Let's say it's miserable, but letting
Speaker 1: someone else just you know, feel them on or pray
Speaker 1: on you like your weakness, like.
Speaker 3: No, don't do that. Why would you? So? Why would
Speaker 3: I let someone do that to me? That's evil.
Speaker 1: You're not even my brother that can annoying you or
Speaker 1: my sister. The people that actually affect me. This is
Speaker 1: someone that you don't care about, has got some opinion.
Speaker 3: On your life. No, thank you.
Speaker 1: I'll happily decline that offer and walk on myself. Like
Speaker 1: I said, be angry, get it offloaded to someone for
Speaker 1: twenty four hours, and then today I think answer that
Speaker 1: really well.
Speaker 2: I absolutely love that. I was just sitting here nodding
Speaker 2: my head because you just said that so perfectly and
Speaker 2: definitely what you said like something huge I've been thinking
Speaker 2: about lately is, Yeah, when someone upsets you, or they
Speaker 2: get in your head, or they say something nasty, if
Speaker 2: you hold on to that negativity, it's like you're not
Speaker 2: hurting anyone but yourself, Like, yeah, feel it. You're allowed
Speaker 2: to be human, You're allowed to play victim for a
Speaker 2: little bit, but then let it go because you know
Speaker 2: that person is just winning because you're just holding it inside.
Speaker 2: And that's you know, what's the saying. It's like, it's like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm gonna but it. Yeah, I'm such
Speaker 2: a big believer in that. So love that you touched
Speaker 2: on that.
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Speaker 1: I find funny though as well, because someone will say
Speaker 1: something to you and I bet they've just completely forgotten
Speaker 1: or don't even care, and then you're holding into it.
Speaker 3: That's the worst thing that and they don't even do it,
Speaker 3: and you're ting you out inside.
Speaker 1: No way answer again, Let's say, you know, let it go,
Speaker 1: let it nothing to you, don't care, just just move on,
Speaker 1: let them do.
Speaker 2: And that's even like you know, when you get like
Speaker 2: a nasty comment or you know, like a hater or
Speaker 2: something like that, is like that person is proper bored.
Speaker 2: They're type keyboard. They're basically not giving many thoughts to it. Like,
Speaker 2: don't even give them the time of day.
Speaker 1: You can't make it to the top of the haters.
Speaker 1: That's what I've learned. And if you go you've won SA,
Speaker 1: You've made it. Thank you there, Yes, thank you.
Speaker 2: I'm going places exactly.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 2: And the last little concept I want to chat about
Speaker 2: Asher is discipline. So you did touch on this at
Speaker 2: the start of you know, you've you've had to be
Speaker 2: disciplined to get to where you want to be. So
Speaker 2: I want to ask you, like, obviously, discipline is hard,
Speaker 2: and that's why you know not everyone does it. Would
Speaker 2: you say that's a huge factor that has been important,
Speaker 2: you know, to your motivation and success.
Speaker 1: One because half the time I don't want to do
Speaker 1: any of the things that I do.
Speaker 3: When people say, do you love me.
Speaker 1: To actually, I'm like, well, no, I've got to get
Speaker 1: up every morning, I've got a train, I've got to
Speaker 1: eat correctly.
Speaker 3: Like no, one doesn't want to do that constantly, Like I.
Speaker 1: Just want to, you know, have a glass of wine
Speaker 1: in the evening or two, like I just want to
Speaker 1: do ordinary things. But then you want actually not ordin
Speaker 1: every person, and this time is technically limited, it won't
Speaker 1: be forever, so why not just giving it all now?
Speaker 1: And that's why I have to remind myself as much
Speaker 1: as I don't want to do it, because sometimes after
Speaker 1: running session, you're on that track floor in the rain,
Speaker 1: dead to the world, and your coach is saying I
Speaker 1: should come on, You've got one more and that you
Speaker 1: want to killing that. I literally physically cussed my coach
Speaker 1: out and say mean things in my head, never say
Speaker 1: out loud, But then look over my eyes, he knows
Speaker 1: what I'm thinking. And it's just like those moments build
Speaker 1: you and make you stronger, and it's just like you
Speaker 1: want this, so you're going to get back up and
Speaker 1: going to do that last week, whether it.
Speaker 3: Kills you or not.
Speaker 1: But then you just know when you're on that podium
Speaker 1: it was all worth it, and it's like, come on,
Speaker 1: ash up, You've got how many more years in this school.
Speaker 1: E've been doing it sport your whole entire life. You've
Speaker 1: enjoying the highs, even even enjoyed the loads when you
Speaker 1: think about it, because they've made you who you are,
Speaker 1: and it really just keep pushing, like my mum always
Speaker 1: said to me, because obviously if you want to gout
Speaker 1: of your friend, it's their sixteen birthday, eighteen fifty, all
Speaker 1: the big ones, and you have to miss.
Speaker 3: Them or weddings.
Speaker 1: I'm always abroad sometimes, so I've missed everything, and they
Speaker 1: able just say usher up. The parties are going to
Speaker 1: be there when you retire. The drinks are going to
Speaker 1: be there when you retire. The ones that are close
Speaker 1: to you and rewatch you are still going to be
Speaker 1: there when you're retired. They'll be there the whole way through.
Speaker 1: So what's the problem in the similar to your birthdays?
Speaker 1: And it makes me feel like that's mom, You're right,
Speaker 1: I get it. And then I realized now when I'm
Speaker 1: thirty now and I look at the parties that they're playing,
Speaker 1: all the music is still the same, so I probably
Speaker 1: only want to go to those type of ones anyway,
Speaker 1: because I prefer that music. So I feel like things
Speaker 1: I get what she meant that things haven't changed, and
Speaker 1: I feel like I do try to tell the young
Speaker 1: athletes that because sometimes I feel like you need someone
Speaker 1: who's a senior member of the team, So just say
Speaker 1: certain things that you wish you were told when you
Speaker 1: were younger. And I feel that's what really kind of
Speaker 1: keeps it motivated. If I have intellectual conversations with another
Speaker 1: athlete or someone that's just been through something, actually been
Speaker 1: through something, someone that's like kind up in their job,
Speaker 1: or because I feel like it does play a part
Speaker 1: in different worlds.
Speaker 3: It's not like just sport is really hard to push through.
Speaker 3: It is still work.
Speaker 1: It's really still getting up in the morning and trying
Speaker 1: to conquer your goals. But I always talk to an athlete.
Speaker 1: I'm a massive fan of Christine A Hugu. She's a
Speaker 1: farm Jumia Olympic champion. She's technically my friend like a
Speaker 1: big sister, and talking to her reader's help because I've
Speaker 1: bbviously been through it as well. But you just know
Speaker 1: there is any goal and you just want to win,
Speaker 1: You want to perform well, you just want to do
Speaker 1: what's that will push your money.
Speaker 3: To its best.
Speaker 1: And if I haven't done it, I don't really want
Speaker 1: to stop until it's done. I say this because obviously
Speaker 1: I champolinion obviously was taken away from me, not by choice,
Speaker 1: So I don't want to st happen with check and Field.
Speaker 1: So I really want to succeed, and I think a
Speaker 1: female for that, and just work really hard.
Speaker 3: And it's just like just to get back up. Man.
Speaker 1: You can be knocked down, but just honestly, just get
Speaker 1: back up and we can we can finish what you started.
Speaker 2: Yeah wow. And like as you were saying that too,
Speaker 2: I have a quote written down from one of your
Speaker 2: Instagram posts and in it you had this really beautiful
Speaker 2: quote of keep believing that the sacrifices you make today
Speaker 2: are having a positive impact on tomorrow. And I absolutely
Speaker 2: loved that so much, because, yeah, you summoned up completely,
Speaker 2: but I think it's such a huge thing of like,
Speaker 2: you know, if you want something you've never had, you've
Speaker 2: got to do something you've never done and really seen
Speaker 2: that end game rather than you know the stuff happening
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think people really believe that it was given
Speaker 1: to us, loving is given to us at all, that
Speaker 1: we have to work hard this. We don't push the
Speaker 1: line in and say okay, yeah you get to like
Speaker 1: you come third, you come fifth, like it doesn't work
Speaker 1: like that. We have to I have to train, I
Speaker 1: have to go to the do I have to eat well,
Speaker 1: there's so many things I have to do. I have
Speaker 1: to rest, I have to recover. So when people feel like, oh,
Speaker 1: sh you're you're shulda shage that two three o'clock whatever,
Speaker 1: you're at home and sleep. So yeah, because I've worked
Speaker 1: my bum off, like I am shattered every day. It's
Speaker 1: like I'm abusing my body and I'm asking it, and
Speaker 1: you ask yourself like please, you can.
Speaker 3: Do it again tomorrow. And we can do it again tomorrow.
Speaker 1: This is what I have to tell myself knowing I,
Speaker 1: like I said, I'm dead on the clack and I
Speaker 1: have to get back up and do this all get tomorrow.
Speaker 3: So we have to be crazy only an idiot. We'll
Speaker 3: go through that pay and then going to it again.
Speaker 3: And I just was on my own like seriously, why
Speaker 3: would I do that.
Speaker 1: It's just because I love it and I just want
Speaker 1: to run. I want to succeed. Firstly, I want to travel.
Speaker 1: That's one of the reason why I like doing the sport.
Speaker 3: We do get to see the whole world. But I
Speaker 3: mean that.
Speaker 1: Shouldn't be my main focus. That sounds really bad, but
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 2: Definitely, and I just you just have.
Speaker 3: To you just know it isn't given to me.
Speaker 1: I just know I work hard for this, and it
Speaker 1: feels even better that I worked hard for it and
Speaker 1: I'm on a podium because I did this. The people
Speaker 1: around me supported me. I have the best support network
Speaker 1: and they're the ones.
Speaker 3: That really pushed me the most. And I love that.
Speaker 1: I'm blessed with an amazing family, amazing support staff, my
Speaker 1: coach and my austia and physio and everybod Like I
Speaker 1: am blessed, and I just you know, you know, use
Speaker 1: their energy and just push forward and that no one
Speaker 1: can take this down. Then people that are kind of
Speaker 1: probably them, and even then I've probably fight them for it.
Speaker 1: So no, you just you just gotta stay positive. It's
Speaker 1: probably the hardest thing to do. I'm not gonna like
Speaker 1: to like keep on it like on an everyday basis,
Speaker 1: but like I said, take this twenty four hours or
Speaker 1: those minutes, you know, and then because sometimes you do
Speaker 1: need to rest that completely. But now just just staying positive.
Speaker 1: It is just just keep going. And despite that's a
Speaker 1: good fight for yourself. You only get one life, and
Speaker 1: it's like, why would you not enjoy it? Why would
Speaker 1: you not work hard for or do what you want
Speaker 1: in it. I feel like this whole pandemic has not
Speaker 1: they changed me. I feel that every year I have
Speaker 1: like a party for my birthday and obviously the third
Speaker 1: if you want to do something really big, but I
Speaker 1: would say I'm to get what I wanted.
Speaker 3: Luckily, we've just come out of like.
Speaker 1: A small lock down and with about twenty five people,
Speaker 1: and I just invited the most the closest people I
Speaker 1: could think of. Maybe and I could have gone up
Speaker 1: to probably thirty or same because some of them couldn't
Speaker 1: make it because and Will Helmet were made it easier
Speaker 1: for me to me to make twenty five. But it
Speaker 1: made me feel like you don't need all the glitz
Speaker 1: and glamour, even though I didn't think I need it anyway,
Speaker 1: But it's just all the you know, the shiny elements
Speaker 1: we needed the one the closest walks to you, and
Speaker 1: that's why I had I realized, Yeah, if I've got
Speaker 1: this support, that's all I need hones see. And I
Speaker 1: know some people may not have that support or someone
Speaker 1: to lean on, but exactly like I said, you have
Speaker 1: those conversations with yourself, or you have a psychologist someone
Speaker 1: to just take those horrible moments and elements off of you,
Speaker 1: and you just you go again, and you just push
Speaker 1: and fight.
Speaker 3: So I always thank God that I.
Speaker 1: Am blessed with such an amazing family and stuff, but
Speaker 1: obviously I do care about the ones that don't have
Speaker 1: what I have.
Speaker 3: But I always think back to twenty four hours.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. But you can you can feel
Speaker 2: your passion in, you know, doing the sport, doing what
Speaker 2: you want and really succeeding, which, like you said, is
Speaker 2: such a huge motivation and pushing factor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is. You've got motivated.
Speaker 2: So Asher, what is next for you? What are you
Speaker 2: currently training for? What is next for you?
Speaker 1: What is next? Honestly, it's the world that we're in now.
Speaker 1: It's like I'm just trying to prepare for tomorrow and
Speaker 1: hopefully that plans out correct.
Speaker 2: I know, like that isn't it?
Speaker 3: It really is.
Speaker 1: The main one we have is obviously the big old Olympics,
Speaker 1: and I pray that it actually be is ahead. I
Speaker 1: think it would be a down off for the whole
Speaker 1: entire world if it was canceled. But I really hope
Speaker 1: that they're more than likely going ahead with it because
Speaker 1: I say this, they have like small they have small
Speaker 1: elites that are going on, so sports are having championships
Speaker 1: and stuff, but it's just when we're all together. That's
Speaker 1: another thing, you know what I mean, Like you could
Speaker 1: have small ones here there, but to have fifty sports
Speaker 1: like just all in one place. I don't know how
Speaker 1: that's going to go ahead, but I.
Speaker 3: Feel like it probably would. I feel like we're year
Speaker 3: into this deep.
Speaker 1: Now that they should be able to succeed in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they have to stay in their own home camps or
Speaker 1: something like that. I'm sure it'll be fine. It just
Speaker 1: won't be the same effect of like a five Olympics.
Speaker 1: Then again, they haven't got McDonald's as a sponsor now,
Speaker 1: so it's never going to be the same as the
Speaker 1: McDonald's there. So that is all athletely fair about. Really, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Olympics yes, you finish your your competition and then you've
Speaker 1: got three McDonald's. Like anything takes skate when it's three,
Speaker 1: and when it's McDonald it's just like a.
Speaker 3: Kid in a catty store. And the thing is when
Speaker 3: you're in.
Speaker 1: Real they did not care and you say, oh, can
Speaker 1: I get like one chicken sandwich for that one oh.
Speaker 3: Two, three? Like they just they look at you like
Speaker 3: ordering one is a sin. And I was like, wow,
Speaker 3: you just know like if you're on a queue or
Speaker 3: something so much because it was quite a smaller one
Speaker 3: of you, and then where we our apartments were and
Speaker 3: the big team could see he was in the queue
Speaker 3: and they would cool you like.
Speaker 1: Oh, actually can you get this? Can you get me there?
Speaker 1: And it's like okay, cool. It's the excitement of getting
Speaker 1: so much McDonald's. Just like you go like like six
Speaker 1: bags and.
Speaker 3: They just didn't care. It's like if you ordered one,
Speaker 3: that was like the worst thing you could do to them.
Speaker 3: How dare you order one? Take two? It's okay, I'll
Speaker 3: take two.
Speaker 2: Everyone That literally sounds like my dream.
Speaker 4: I'm a big mc Donald's person. Oh my god, yeah,
Speaker 4: what a per I love that? Theres why bother you
Speaker 4: can go.
Speaker 3: Anything knowing what we want toward.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is so funny. Well, thank you so much.
Speaker 4: Asha.
Speaker 2: You have been so lovely to talk to and definitely
Speaker 2: motivating and inspiring and it's so it's so cool to
Speaker 2: see you know, behind the scenes and really get dig
Speaker 2: into that mental game and kind of you know, I guess,
Speaker 2: like really get into your thought process behind it all.
Speaker 2: So I just want to say big thank you for
Speaker 2: coming on the podcast. And before you go, can you
Speaker 2: let everyone know where they can find you, where they
Speaker 2: can cheer you on.
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you.
Speaker 1: I've always for like some of my wander off on tangents,
Speaker 1: so I hope I made a lot of sense.
Speaker 2: No, I love as I love it.
Speaker 1: So thank you. You can follow me on Instagram Philip
Speaker 1: one l note s my name is a little Philip,
Speaker 1: a little small one there. But yeah, I'll be on
Speaker 1: Hopefully you finous good spreat for me. I get to
Speaker 1: make the olymp fifteen. I don't know what the races
Speaker 1: were like this year and what's been televised is this
Speaker 1: crazy world, but best be sure that I would probably
Speaker 1: make a team.
Speaker 3: So fingers Quest will pray for me.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. We're all cheering for you. Thank you
Speaker 2: so much, Asha, thank you, thank you for listening for
Speaker 2: another R and C episode. I really appreciate taking the
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