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Speaker 1: And Amanda jam Nason.

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Speaker 2: It's nice to be back, it's nice to be in

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Speaker 2: the new Digs, but it certainly has been soured by

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Speaker 2: what happened at Bondo Junction on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Oh just so hard to process, isn't it that in

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Speaker 3: the space of an hour your life can spin on

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Speaker 3: the head of a pin. It's true, so many people

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Speaker 3: were caught up in it, so many people saw it,

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Speaker 3: people who weren't even there. As you do react to

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Speaker 3: how that would be, how it would feel. Everyone knows

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Speaker 3: someone who's going to be affected in some way, even

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Speaker 3: if remotely. This stuff triggers a lot of stuff for

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Speaker 3: people on our social media. We do have all the

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Speaker 3: numbers for Lifeline for Kids' helpline, reach out if you

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Speaker 3: need help please Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And the tribal drama right now, this is what the

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Speaker 2: tribal drum is for, and it's beating. It's just how

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Speaker 2: are you doing right now? What's happening in your world?

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Speaker 2: Charlie has joined us. Hello Charlie, Hey, go Matte.

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Speaker 4: I'm just going to say, what is fragile? Life is

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Speaker 4: precious and life at times can be unpredictable, and I

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Speaker 4: feel sorry for the people who were at the mall.

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Speaker 4: And also I was going to say for people who

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Speaker 4: ran in terror, do not feel that you were gutless,

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Speaker 4: don't feel that you were doing the wrong thing, and

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Speaker 4: don't have remorse of saying, oh I should have done

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Speaker 4: this or should have done that. It's a you know,

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Speaker 4: I mean, sometimes there's fight and flight, and you know

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Speaker 4: it takes for the people who did what they did.

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Speaker 4: It does take courage and it does take stepping out

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Speaker 4: of it. But it's a normal reaction to be a

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Speaker 4: person who would run. I mean, I probably do the same.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you mentioned that, Charlie, because I thought that too.

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Speaker 3: We talk about the heroism of people. To be a

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Speaker 3: survivor through any of those experiences is to be a hero,

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Speaker 3: to protect your family and run. Absolutely, Charlie, there's everyone

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Speaker 3: who was there is a hero.

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Speaker 2: And to reiterate those words, I'm not a coward, but

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Speaker 2: I've never been tested. You never know when it comes.

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Speaker 1: Down to it.

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Speaker 3: But there was no cowardice in any of.

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Speaker 2: And there's none. There's none of that. There's none of that.

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Speaker 3: That's a good reminder, Charlie.

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Speaker 2: Charlie, thank you for your call. Tanya's joined us as well.

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Speaker 1: Hello, Tanya, Good morning, Jane and Amanda, how are you going.

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Speaker 1: I'm heart sick because my heart hurts from the events

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Speaker 1: of the weekend. But what I wanted to talk about,

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Speaker 1: and Amanda, you've touched on it several times this morning,

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Speaker 1: about seeking help, you know, through Lifeline and Kids Helpline

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Speaker 1: and so forth. I'm highly, highly disturbed that media outlets

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Speaker 1: are publishing photos of the deceased perpetrator. We all saw

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Speaker 1: that photo of that father who shielded his two young

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Speaker 1: kids with iemaster. They wouldn't be scarred by the events.

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Speaker 1: It's what heard on the day, and our media outlets

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Speaker 1: are publishing photos of the deceased perpetrator. It is disgusting.

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Speaker 3: It's you make a very good that's right, you make

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Speaker 3: a very good point. And also through social media, the

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Speaker 3: family of Ashley Good have had to say we have

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Speaker 3: released a photograph you can use. Please don't just mine

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Speaker 3: her social media and use all these photographs of her.

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Speaker 3: This is a very hard time for us. Do not

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Speaker 3: just print these photographs of our loved one. Please, the

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Speaker 3: duty of care hasn't been there. But you make a

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Speaker 3: very good point, Tanya. We have seen a deceased perpetrator

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Speaker 3: lying on the floor on the ground. Very distressing images

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Speaker 3: and we do have to be careful. We're going to

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Speaker 3: be talking to Joe Lamble later in the show. She's

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Speaker 3: a psychologist. She's going to talk to us about how

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Speaker 3: we help our kids through the trauma of what's happened.