1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Do you know one thing I hate at a kid's 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: path meth addicts? No, I like them, they're they're good fun. 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 2: Okay, what do I hate? What do you hate? Can 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 2: I have one more guess? 5 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: Yes? What would Ash hate? Should I just get to it? 6 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: Bubblers that don't work? 7 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: No? I hate the flying fox. When you go to 8 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: a park that has a big flying fox. Have you 9 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: seen those? They're great, great fun. But I always get 10 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: roped into the one parent who keeps going back and forth, 11 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: but for not just my kid, all the kids that 12 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: join in. What do you mean, how are you getting 13 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: roped into that? Okay, so I go with Oscar one second. 14 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: Welcome back to two doting dads. I'm Maddie Jay and 15 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: I'm Ash. This is a podcast all about parenting. It 16 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: is the good, it is the bad. And look, we 17 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: don't give any advice. But what we do do do 18 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: do is talk about flying foxes. Continue we do do. 19 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: Indeed talk about flying foxes. So Oscar just bear with me, Oscar, Daddy, 20 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: I want to go on the flying fox. No problems, 21 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: go over, help him onto the flying fox. It goes down, 22 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: you've got to bring it back up. Usually you'd bring 23 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 1: it back up for the next parent to help their 24 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: child on. But for some reason, every time I do 25 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 1: it with Oscar, I go to take it back. There's 26 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: no other parent and there's like ten kids, and then 27 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: they all can't reach it, so I've got to go 28 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: back and forth and back and forth. 29 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: Feel like the age of a child to use a 30 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 2: flying fox without parental supervision is around about five. Anything 31 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: under concerning anything out. 32 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: Of that, I'm looking for consent from a parent. 33 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: Would you hand a four year old a flying fox 34 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: unaccompanied by an adult? 35 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: Yes, you got it, man, you got it. 36 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: It's a a harsh world out there, and these kids 37 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: need to learn. 38 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, but the thing is like, what, like why can't 39 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: other parents come over and help me? 40 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: They just yeah, they're like it's okay, no do it 41 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 2: because they're like, oh my god, look at that good 42 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: Samaradan dad out there who's relaying like back and forth. 43 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,399 Speaker 1: I hate that you have set this up, You set 44 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: the standard. I hate that so much. You just want 45 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: to I've got I had two kids. If I wanted 46 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: to do that for ten kids, I would have had 47 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: ten kids. Fuck the other kids to stop them, just 48 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: push them off. You reckon, just like another parent they don't. 49 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: I've been starting, like all of Christmas holidays, we would 50 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: go to this one park called Flying Fox Park. If 51 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,839 Speaker 1: you go to a flying Fox park with your kids, 52 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: the expectation is that you have to help your kid 53 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: on the flying Fox, not a random other parent. Right, 54 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: It's unlike you to be so caring. I don't care. 55 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 2: It's just I wouldn't. 56 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't expect you to be the one. 57 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 2: Who being like that idiot dad helping out all these 58 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: other kids who doesn't even know. 59 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's me. 60 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: It's weird. Why how have you? How has this happened? 61 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: It just happened too many times in the heat of summer. 62 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: But just tell us, like, that's the thing. Then I 63 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: have to deprive my kid from going on it. So 64 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: now I was like, can we go? I'm like, oh, soon, soon, soon, 65 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: we're doing something else because I know as soon as 66 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: I go over there, Timmy, Jimmy, Sally and Susie, you're 67 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: going to come up and I'm doing laps of the 68 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: flying Fox. Let him, let him be, let him suffer. Well, 69 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: then they're just going to stand there. That's life, bro, 70 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: that is life. 71 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: Flying Fox Park is really just a lesson for what 72 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 2: life is like in the real world. 73 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're on my side or not. 74 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 2: I don't know either. I had a little session at 75 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: the park. Hang on, I got a sneeze. One second. 76 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: You're a plane. That was good, bless you. I reckon 77 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: it was a cessna. You are autistic. You're a divergent actually, which. 78 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 2: We'll get into later. Before before we do that, okay, 79 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: before do that. Do you remember Tom Williams from Benhams 80 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: and Gardens. Tom Williams very handsome man, what. 81 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: I recall, very hand gorgeous. He's a bit older than us. 82 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: Right now, he's I think he's let me just check, 83 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 2: can confirm that his age. He's fifty four, Still gorgeous, stunning. 84 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: He's a carpenter. Imagine that rocking up to your house 85 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 2: to fix your back, like. 86 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: Hire a hubby. Yeah, imagine if I know what sort 87 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: of person he would be on a night out. You 88 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: know what you're getting right there? 89 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 2: What are you getting? Don't disrespect him? I'm not What 90 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: are you getting? I don't want to say, because I'll 91 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 2: just respect him. 92 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: He's the loveliest, but the haircut. He's probably really lovely guy. 93 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: That haircut back in the day, screamed one thing. 94 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: We all had haircuts like that. He has like a 95 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 2: bit for those he has a bit of a mohawk 96 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 2: kind of cut. But he saved my life. 97 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: He looks like Ben Cousins, look like Ben Cousins, and 98 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: we all know what he was about. 99 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: How do you how doare you compare the two? He 100 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: saved my life. I was at a park literally or 101 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 2: just literally. I was back back in the od stomping 102 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 2: ground around Bondai. Decided Thursday Daddy day. Take my kid 103 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 2: plus my niece from the jungle to the urban jungle. 104 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 2: Some might say, very good from you, Thank you. You should 105 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: be a copywriter. 106 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: That's it for me. 107 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 2: Went to what's called not Flying Fox Park rocket Ship Park. 108 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: We have a rocket ship park too. 109 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: It's not about you, it's about me. Isn't have a 110 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: big rocket in the middle, hence the name it does 111 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: you know your rocket ship? It was a chain of 112 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 2: parks called rocket Ship Park. It's a great park. It's 113 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 2: a cracking park. I've just finished. It's really beautiful. Went there, 114 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 2: went there, must have been there for like I want 115 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: to say, were there for about five minutes. 116 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: What happened started raining. Oh yeah, I don't have enough. 117 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: They don't have any cover, no cover at the rocket 118 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: Ship parks. It's the cover. The rocket ship's too high 119 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: for cover. It's a nightmare. 120 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's the Achilles heel of the rocket ship. 121 00:05:55,520 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 2: The rain. Yeah, it's over, it's over. So I was, 122 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 2: I did. There's a metal slide and Laola was like, 123 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: I'm going on it, and I was like, oh nuts. 124 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 2: You know when metal gets wet, it gets very slippery. 125 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: She she flew out of there. You know, you know 126 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 2: when something's happening and it text you a second to realize, 127 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: and I was, I was about three meters away from 128 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 2: the slide, but I saw her flying down. 129 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: I just kind of went. I was frozen. She flying 130 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: off the end and she it was like long jump. 131 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: She must have got four meters straight onto her like 132 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: bumps straight onto the back. Combo were like, was it 133 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: like it was? 134 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 2: Thank Heaven, it's the rocket ship parks. All the new 135 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 2: ones have soft landing parks. 136 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: Would have been like back in parents. I was like, 137 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: I went too fast in the slide. 138 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 2: She would have had a bottom skin. Luckily she was okay. 139 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: But then I was like, this is too dangerous. I'm 140 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 2: pulling the pin on the rocket ship park. Okay, problem, Yeah, 141 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: I didn't have a car, it's with him walking. Just nah, 142 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 2: I got the bus there, didn't. 143 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: I bustin they've got a bus. I got the basket 144 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: of the bus. 145 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 2: But the issue is ash issue is it was a 146 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: bit of a walk from the bus stop, so I 147 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 2: couldn't get a bus back home. Tried to call a 148 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: TAXI couldn't get my mate. 149 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: Why do they even have a phone number anymore? Like 150 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: you just sit there on all day to fifteen minutes. 151 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: It reminds me of the city to serve. 152 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 2: Remember, yes, can we just allow children, babies and ubers, 153 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 2: like if they're allowed in calves, let them in an 154 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: uber without. 155 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: A baby seat. 156 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: Canning, Queensland may change the rules. We're living in the 157 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 2: dark ages here in New South Wales. 158 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: State state by state laws is a joke. 159 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 2: Isn't there an election coming up? We should campaign the 160 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: dad party the dad party no baby seats and ubers? 161 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: That could be no, yeah, that could be our main thing, 162 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: Like any man, woman or child should be able to 163 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: ride an uber without discrimination. 164 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: And more parental supervision at Flying Fox Parks. 165 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: More shade and more cover. Oh, we are onto something. 166 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: This is good. Think of the people that would actually, 167 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: can you please look up how to create a political party? Please? 168 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: Thank you? 169 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: Yes. Also, just to put another spanner in the works, 170 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 2: I had my knees. I had Lola. Guess who else 171 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: I had? 172 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: Nana had Nana. 173 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: You know what nana's are like in the wet Yeah, 174 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: I don't know who. 175 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: I was more worried about Lola. On Nana. 176 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 2: I was like, don't touch, that's OK, You're fine, And 177 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, how the hell am I going to get home? 178 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: And then out of nowhere, Tom Williams. Tom Williams comes 179 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 2: walking through the park. He's just finished a meeting. Walking Yeah, 180 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 2: he don't tell me. He piggybacked you all and he said. 181 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: What are you doing? 182 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: And I said, I'm trying to get home, and he goes, 183 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 2: don't worry, you can hop in my car. 184 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: And Lola was like, who is this guy? Not a stranger? 185 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: Nana was very happy to get the car of time. 186 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: Was she in front seat? No? 187 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 2: I put her in the back. Smart Tom Williams saved 188 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 2: my life. 189 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: That it's just dad's looking out for each other, just 190 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: one dad to another, one dad to another. So vote 191 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: one the political the dad political party. We look out. 192 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: We call it the party for the Dad party. 193 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: Like it's I now have to like with that good deed. 194 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 2: You know, I'm now looking to give my good deed 195 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 2: to another parent. You don't need any good deeds. 196 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: You're fine. Well I'm not, actually, and I have a 197 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: story about that. Not fine. Hemorrhoids. Hemorrhoids about the hemorrhoids 198 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: were vicious while you were gone, And that was from 199 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 1: stress because stressed about you. I was worried about you, 200 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: not about me or my terrible lifestyle and my horrible 201 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: habits had nothing to do with that. It's all stress. 202 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 1: But we have some answers Matthew to why I am 203 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: like the way that I am? Okay, it's formal, so 204 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: we always joke. We joke a lot on these podcasts 205 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: about the poster boy for a particular it's a disorder disorder. Yeah, 206 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: there's got enough d's in there to add of disorder. 207 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: It's a disorder. I have formerly been diagnosed bias like 208 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: high triss as a severe let me finish a severe 209 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: case of adult ADHD. Do we class? Look, I didn't 210 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: know what to do. I was like, congratulations, I can't 211 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: say I'm surprised. I'm not surprised. We all knew. Now 212 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: that I know, it's it's way worse. I'm just like, 213 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: I found myself yesterday. Better. It's better the disorder. You 214 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 1: don't know, Yeah, I found myself yesterday. We're at the 215 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 1: PM's house for that thing you're doing, and I was 216 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: like staring off into the like into no man's landlight, 217 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: and then I'd be like, oh, oh shit. If someone's 218 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: like talking, was like ash, just this echo, like yeah, 219 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: it's quite a long process. I thought Matt's scaring at 220 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: the jungle and he pulled my finger out and do 221 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: something for myself off here? And can I ask? 222 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: Can I ask what made you want to get tested? 223 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 2: Because you've you're now in your. 224 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 1: About one hundred and seventeen episodes of this podcast. I 225 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: listened back to all them. I was like, Fuck, that 226 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: guy needs some help. 227 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 2: Because you kind of think you've come this far. You're 228 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 2: in your mid thirties, you come this far, you know surely, 229 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: surely you know you're fine. 230 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: No, it's getting worse. It's getting progressively worse. Really in 231 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: what way? Look, I know I know that I've always 232 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: had problems focusing. I know that I always I'm real scattery, 233 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: I'm real up and down, I move everything. 234 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 2: Are you. 235 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: Don't? I'm happy? Shut up? And honestly it was I 236 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: knew it was getting worse. And then I started to 237 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: pay attention to some things that Oscar would do and 238 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,599 Speaker 1: how okay, and you know he's five, he's he's you 239 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: know not. He just reminded me so much of what 240 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: of what I what like my brain and like what 241 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: the mannerisms and things like he cannot focus on anything? 242 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: What was Oscar doing that? He can't focus on me, 243 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: but he can hyper focus on a small on a 244 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 1: one small task and like for me, I used to 245 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 1: be able to hyper focus on things. And then can 246 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: I just refresh your memory? And I you know this, 247 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: But for the listeners, Ash, I don't know what it was. 248 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: But he was like, I'm really into Pokemon cards and 249 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: I was like, what do you mean? 250 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 2: And you would watch you would watch people live stream 251 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 2: opening Pokemon cards and then you started collecting Pokemon cards. 252 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: And now I'm in severe debt. 253 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 2: Yeap just you were like locked into Pokemon car locked in. 254 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: Still bro, I am locked in. Actually I guess I 255 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: can harp a focus on that. But like I would 256 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: find that, I was like, Okay, well I can't. I can't. 257 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: I'm starting to become as focused as Oscar is, and 258 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,599 Speaker 1: I'm an adult who like should be able to focus on. 259 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 1: I can't read an email. I can read like a 260 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 1: head of an email. I could learn a new skill 261 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 1: like Rubik's cube. Took me one day to learn the 262 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: Rubik's cube, you know what I mean. But I can't. 263 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 1: I can't form a new habit. I can't build a 264 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: new habit, like just shit like that. And it's progressively 265 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: getting worse to the point where like I'm unmotivated to 266 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: do anything, like I'm unmotivated to get out of bed, 267 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: all this sort of stuff. That it was like, all right, 268 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: probably need to do something about it. Do you remember 269 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: and tell me if this is the case or not. 270 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: Do you remember? 271 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 2: It must have been like six months ago we had 272 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 2: a conversation about potentially getting diagnosed, and you said something 273 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 2: along the lines of you don't want to get medicated 274 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: because it's going to change who you are. 275 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: That's a common concern they say it because it's like 276 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: we talk about ADHD as you know, like a disorder 277 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: like a it's really bad, but it's also a superpowerful. 278 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 1: A lot of people, Like the psychiatrist said to me, 279 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: he said, you've gotten as far as you have done 280 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: now with what's going on in your head, but you're 281 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: obviously at a point in your life where you need 282 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: you need. I need to be able to create a routine, 283 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: have some sort of structure. I need to be able 284 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: to sleep properly. Like this's so like it takes me 285 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: like four hours to go to sleep. I'll just lay 286 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: there bro and my head will just just run the 287 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: whole time, the biggest one. And you'll notice it when 288 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: and you probably already notice it when that I noticed 289 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: when I come on the phone to someone and I'm 290 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: invested in our conversation and something so minute will get 291 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: my attention and I'll pull on that piece of string 292 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: and the complete conversation changes to me just I'm not 293 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: there anymore. And I've gotten to the point where I'm 294 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: doing that to family and stuff like that, and I'll 295 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: get off the phone and I'll go, fuck, I just 296 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: did that again. I'll have to ring, Like I rang 297 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: my sister back up yesterday and I was like, I'm 298 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: so sorry. You would having an actual important conversation with me, 299 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: and I didn't digest him. I didn't digest the back 300 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: end of I don't even know what happened because something 301 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: had caught my eye and I cannot refocus on that conversation. 302 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 2: And it's tough because obviously your sister's going to be 303 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 2: very sympathetic because she understands you and you and who 304 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 2: you are. But I guess other people might be like 305 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 2: fuck ash, like that's. 306 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: Rude so many people, and I feel really bad. So 307 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: if you are on the phone to me and I 308 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: do tune out, it's a disorder now, okay, but yeah, 309 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: it's yeah, it just was getting to the point where 310 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: I have that's just put yourself in my shoes for 311 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: a moment. No motivation, no routine, no structure, no goals, 312 00:15:55,320 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: no interests. Like I was just like a blob. Yeah, 313 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: pretty much. And it's like I can't. It really really 314 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: hit me when I surfed the wavepool before you it 315 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: was before you left or during your left, I don't know. 316 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: I did hurt my back on the same session, but 317 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: I literally paddled out and I was like, I fucking 318 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: hate this and it was like why though, why is that? 319 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: Like why is your brain now associating this with something 320 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: that you hate, Like, yeah, is it because maybe that 321 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: I put too much pressure on myself to be the 322 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: best that I can be, but I don't have the 323 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: patience to work to be the best I could be. 324 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: So what was the process? Because I remember you saying 325 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: it was hard. I know you were kind of like 326 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 2: tiptoeing around getting tested. But it's not just a simple 327 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 2: make an appointment. Oh yeah, you like to do this test? 328 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: You have it? What does it look like? Step by step? 329 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: So this is the second time I've been down it 330 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: because we spoke about it last year. But it was 331 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: the referral I got then was to a particular clinic 332 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: that feel like they were quite big. So you sort 333 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: of get you sort of go into the conveyor belt 334 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: of process, if you will. And I felt like the 335 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: information was like the step was like it felt like 336 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: the test, you know what I mean? It was like, 337 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: I'm not going to get through all this shit. I 338 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: can't focus on one thing. How do you want me 339 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: to focus on fifteen different things before I can see 340 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: a psychiatrist who to say, Okay, what's going on, which 341 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: probably deters a lot of people. I got really lucky 342 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: because of Kisha. Keisha's such an advocate for it. 343 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 2: For people who don't know. It's Keisha from Life Uncut. 344 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 1: She created Cloud, which is on the Life on Cut network, 345 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: which is a podcast all about ADHD, and she was 346 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 1: able to point me in the right direction of how 347 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: she went through it where it wasn't as painful, which look, 348 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: the steps are essentially the same, but there was more 349 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: guidance instead of just being like, here go, this is 350 00:17:58,480 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: what you need to do because you're one of a 351 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: million people in this in the in the start of 352 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: this clinic here where you need to go do this, 353 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: do that? Do this? Do that? What do they make 354 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: you do? So stuff Like there's a lot of like 355 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 1: cognitive testing, Like when you go for a new job 356 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: in a corporate situation ago, you go through an online questionnaire. Yeah, 357 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: but it's long. Again, you feel like this is the 358 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: ADHD test, but it's just to find out what sort 359 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: of person you are, Like what what makes you tick? 360 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: What doesn't make your tick? Are you depressed? Are you sad? So? 361 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: Do you do that? 362 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 2: You do that test and then what happens after that? 363 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: You've got to they say that you need to provide 364 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: some like character references. Why I wasn't I called up? 365 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: Uh what do you think it was? Like? Thankfully you 366 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: don't necessarily have to I think there is you do 367 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 1: enough cognitive testing about your character, and then they're also 368 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: asked for like penis. I don't know, I haven't seen 369 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: it in ages, and it's like like old school reports 370 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, because there's no way you would 371 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: have had that. Oh no, no, definitely not no, no no. 372 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: And thankfully through this channel, I didn't have to do 373 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: any of that. So like your reports would have said, 374 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: easily distracted bam. Yeah, losers focus bam, cannot focus on 375 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: tausk bam. My advice to anyone who's who wants to 376 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: go down the track and looks at it and goes, fuck, 377 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: it looks like a long thing. Just do your due 378 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: diligence on where you do it. Because this was really 379 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: quick opposed to it being really really long. So this 380 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: was like a couple of week wait to see a 381 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: psychiatrist off the back of your testing. 382 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 2: It was telehealth. We spent an hour together. So just 383 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 2: so I know, so you've done your online online test, 384 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 2: I'll go from. 385 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: Stuff GP to with your concerns as you should do 386 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: with everything. Really, go and see your GP. Just tell 387 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: them what's going on and what makes you think, and 388 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: they'll ask you some general questions there too, because they're 389 00:19:58,160 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: trained to do so as well. But then they'll go, O, 390 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: do you have a clinic in mind, which thankfully from 391 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: Keisha I did, and then you essentially the referel goes 392 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: to them, They reach out to you. They essentially give 393 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: you all the information about what comes next. 394 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 2: I'm really dumb here, but is a clinic like an 395 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 2: ADHD clinic? 396 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, it's like an ADHD clinic and like like 397 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: brain neurodiversion, they specialize and all that sort of stuff. 398 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: And then you do the online. Yeah, they sort of 399 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: give what's going to happen next. And the cost. That's 400 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: another thing too. It's because how much does it costs? 401 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: Oh look, it's like it's upwards as three grands. Oh 402 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: it's not cheap, it's not cheap. Wow, it's for me. 403 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: I was at a point where I felt like I 404 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: needed to invest it so that I don't essentially become 405 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: you know, depressed really, because it's where it was headed. Yeah, 406 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: it was headed to like impacting you that much. It 407 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: was impacting you to the point where there was thoughts 408 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: of suicide, like just completely honest, like very minor. But 409 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: I've felt that before, but I thought, this is getting 410 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: worse and this is the trigger for that. It was 411 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: sort of like for me, that was my how I 412 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: felt because I had no motivation, no, no structure, no no, no, no, no, no, 413 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: don't don't don't at all. Like I've I've sort of 414 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: stuffered with this sort of stuff for long and a 415 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: half that I'm like, okay, well, but what was getting 416 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: me down was that I couldn't. I would do the thing. 417 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: You know, here's an example, like you would go, okay, 418 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: I want to do this, right. See what you do 419 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: is you put the steps in place to get to there. 420 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: I would go, I want to do this, get to 421 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: the first step in my brain and go this is 422 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: all too hard and that's it, you know, Like here's 423 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 1: a good one. I started doing laps at the pool. 424 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: So what did I bought? Like one hundred dollars pair 425 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: of goggles. They're still in the packet and that was 426 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: two weeks ago. Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. 427 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 2: Like, so after after you do your you went to 428 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 2: the clinic, did are you testing there? And is that 429 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 2: off the back of that, do they say you like 430 00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 2: you have it? 431 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, so you do the testing and then you 432 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: have your consultation with with a psychiatrist, and there's a lot. 433 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: They dive into a lot like childhood, family life, both 434 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: your immediate family and then obviously my wife and kids, 435 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 1: and you know, school and hobbies and habits like alcohol, 436 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: drug or they do into everything in a family loss. Look, 437 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: if you're not at a position where you want to 438 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: talk about all that stuff, then maybe it's not worth 439 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: going down there. Front. It's really confronted. It's like exhausting. 440 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: At the end of it, you're like fuck like like 441 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: it's like a it's a proper therapy session, which thankfully 442 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: I've got some experience in so I wasn't, but I 443 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: can imagine if that's your first Oh yeah, you'd be 444 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: like holy Like I had to take it in the 445 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: car because it's just like I needed zero distractions. I 446 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: just needed to I was like, if I'm going to 447 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: spend all this money and do it to improve my life, 448 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: I need to just lock myself away and get it done. 449 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: And then, based off that in the conversation, he said, look, 450 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: in my professional opinion you do have adult ADHD along 451 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: with there's a couple other things that's in the They 452 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: give you a diagnosis, which is the diagnosis goes back 453 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: to my GP for next steps, which is next steps 454 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: is blood work ECG and for me, blood work and 455 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: ECG is really important because I've got heart disease. Out 456 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: for medication, for medication, yeah, because he openly says, hey, 457 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: we can treat this with medication whatever that's going to 458 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: look like, I don't know yet, or we can. You 459 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: can look at you unpacking. It's like a fast way 460 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: or slow like that's the way they put it. And 461 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: I was like, look, I'm open to being medicated, but 462 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,959 Speaker 1: that's what I was worried about losing my spark, right, 463 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: I was losing like I didn't want to lose my 464 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: personality and will lose how my brain works in certain ways. 465 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: And he was like, no, no, I will. Yeah. 466 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,479 Speaker 2: But then at the same time you talk about your spark, 467 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 2: it's like, I don't I look think about that moment 468 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 2: where you say you're thinking about self harm and you're like, well, 469 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 2: that's not it's not helping it. It's it's not a 470 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 2: spark that you think it is. 471 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there's always like the negative side to my 472 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: brain and the personality that I have. But he said 473 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: to me, no, no, no, He's like, look, what we 474 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: can do is we can look to just make it 475 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: easier for you to focus on tasks and and and 476 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: achieve smaller goals than just being like, here's something kind 477 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: of completely dull who you are as a person for 478 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 1: the rest of your life. And that's a big stigma 479 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: around medication. When I'm medicated already now and I have 480 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: been for years, but it's like before that, I was like, 481 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,479 Speaker 1: I didn't want to be medicated because I didn't want 482 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: to be seen as that person who's medicated. Right, it's 483 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: like he's had like a lobotomy, yeah, essentially, and like 484 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: but then once I went down the process the first 485 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: time with you know, with that, it's like, it's not 486 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: that bad. 487 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 2: Do they when you say severe? Is there like a scale? 488 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 2: Is it like between? 489 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: I guess it's just his medical opinion, right, He's like, Okay, 490 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: well I've heard you. I've heard what you're like, what 491 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: your brain's like, and they're very good at like drawing 492 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: stuff out of you that they are trained to do, 493 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: right if. 494 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 2: They could, But it's kind of I guess. On the 495 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 2: one hand, it's kind of daunting to know like, Okay, 496 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 2: I've actually got this thing now, But then at the 497 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 2: same time, it must be nice in a sense to know, like, hey, 498 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 2: it's you know, I've been living with this thing which 499 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 2: has been hindering me for so long. It's not you, 500 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 2: it's it's like, you know, it makes sense. Yeah, it's 501 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 2: like now that I'm aware of it. 502 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: And there's certain things that the certain behaviors that I do, 503 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: like like Mike, my doom scrolling is on a fucking 504 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: another level. It's because it's ADHD paralysis. I'm just there 505 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 1: searching for open mean search and that's the easiest way 506 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: for me to get it without you know, racking up 507 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like in that I'm just 508 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: like consistently searching. And it's like it's a known thing 509 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: that you go into a paralysis where you're like, I'm 510 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: just gonna sit here all day in a vortex, and 511 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: I have done that. You know what. The first day 512 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: both kids went back to school, I think you were 513 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: away and I think we had nothing on or whatever. 514 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: I literally sat there till the kids got home. He 515 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: got nothing achieved that day, and it was like, I 516 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: don't have the motivation, nor do I have this drive 517 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,239 Speaker 1: the strength to move off his couch and other than 518 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: just sit there and doom scroll Yeah, maybe joke off. Yeah, 519 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: so that's where we're at. 520 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 2: Okay, so you haven't had any medication. 521 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: Gotta do blood test ECGs. Then you go and do 522 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: another psych appointment to talk about medications, the pros, the 523 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: con all that sort of stuff. Like another hour, and 524 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: then they see you again, just make any adjustments, and 525 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: then it's up to you how often you want to 526 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: see them, like check in. So like I think Keish 527 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 1: was saying that she did the first initial appointments and 528 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: they adjusted the medication and everything seems to be working fine. 529 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: But if her if her brain chemistry changes or something changes, 530 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: like maybe she falls pregnant and hormones changed things that 531 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: maybe she might need to change when it came again. Yeah, 532 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: but she's gone through the harder process. Well, dude, I'm 533 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: I'm proud of you. Thank you, very proud of you. 534 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: That's the most serious conversation I've had in a very 535 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 1: long time. Yeah. 536 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 2: I think it would have been so easy to kick 537 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 2: this bucket down the road. A little bit longer, a 538 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 2: little bit longer, knowing how hard the process is. I think, 539 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 2: well done, thank you, well done. I feel better about 540 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:44,959 Speaker 2: it already. 541 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: I mean it's like you said, there's no surprises like 542 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: it was. You know, I can I can have a 543 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: large red Bull and go straight to sleep, like you know, 544 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: you know, it's just yeah, it just got to the 545 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: point where it was like and then I was doing 546 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 1: I was doing this thing where I was like. 547 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 2: Wish I'd known this before I started a podcast with you. 548 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: Sorry, it's two years, I'm kidding, kidding, But it was 549 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: getting to the point where I was like, you know, 550 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: I'm not yeah, like I definitely have a problem with alcohol, 551 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: Like well, that's no fucking secret. But it was getting 552 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: to the point where it was like I was just 553 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: drinking because I was just depressed about it. And it 554 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: was like, if I'm gonna be unmotivated to do things, 555 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: I might as well do the things that's like, the 556 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 1: the easy things that give me some sort of chemical 557 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: in my brain to make me feel a bit better. Anyway, 558 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: here we are, and I'll keep you I'll keep you 559 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: updated when I get back from Vegas. Keep us posting. 560 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 2: I guess if anyone has any questions specific to your 561 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 2: process of getting diagnosed, hit us up, let us know. 562 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, Facebook, Instagram, whatever do you damn me? 563 00:28:53,640 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: I don't mind. I'll ignore it. Matt, Yes, back from 564 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: the Jungle. But you did miss quite a key moment 565 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: in Marley's life. You did make a little heart symbol 566 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: on TV. You did wish her well from the Jungle, 567 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: which she loved. 568 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 2: The heart loved her and I felt guilty a few times. 569 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 2: I'd forget to do it and I'd be like laying 570 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 2: there and be the first day, like. 571 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: The first recording, first episode, we're all here now, like 572 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: when's he got to do it? And then like eventually 573 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: you did it, like a little like I think when 574 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: you got the opportunity because it was hard. You don't 575 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: know what's going to air, what's not going to air. Yeah, 576 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: but the first day of school, primary school, You've you've 577 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: been back a week or so. Now now she's doing 578 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: she's done really well. 579 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 2: You've been doing drop offs and stuff, like I've been 580 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 2: doing drop offs only at the new daycare with Lola, 581 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 2: so I've kind of been missing school. 582 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: I haven't seen the late great Mandy j come through. 583 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 2: I went to We actually had a parent teacher night 584 00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 2: where we have this three kindergarten classes and you and 585 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 2: all the parents go along and it's not one on one. 586 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 2: It's like the curriculum, and they kind of say like, 587 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 2: this is what the kids learning, and they made it 588 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 2: sound really complicated. They were like, so we're going to 589 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 2: be learning about maths and social studies. And I was 590 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 2: kind of like, what do you learn about maths? They're like, oh, 591 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 2: just like they count to ten. Timmy has seven oranges, 592 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 2: twelves and twelve plum But I was thinking, oh, wow, 593 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 2: they're teaching some pretty full on stuff here. But no, no, no, no, no, no, 594 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 2: it's all it's all like, it's all fun times. 595 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: I mean these days, they've obviously got iPads in class. 596 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: They've got like a you know, we have like a 597 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: chalkboard or a fucking whiteboard. They've got like a TV 598 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: screen board. They've got TV scoos at your school, Yeah, dude, 599 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: the whole thing. It's like interactive what I don't know, 600 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: wild public school. 601 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 2: We're living in the dark ages over here in Bonda. 602 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 2: We've got whiteboards. Still, you've still got BONDI beach. I 603 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 2: was like, what is this what is this rubbish? Yeah, 604 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 2: it's funny how you forget how much kids. 605 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: Froth on a little merit award. 606 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 2: They had these badge system, so if you are seen 607 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 2: to be doing something that's like in line with school rules, 608 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 2: you can get ethics yeah yeah, yeah, and then you 609 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 2: get these little badges like little tokens, and then if 610 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 2: you get three tokens, you get a merit award. 611 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: Then if you get two merrit awards, you get. 612 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 2: Like a Blue Award or something, and it's then you 613 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 2: get four Blue wards, you get a rid of Week. Yeah, 614 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 2: and you're like, who cares? But the kids they lose 615 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 2: their ship. Molly's had one badge so far, like little token, 616 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 2: and she's like, you're never going to believe what happened. 617 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: And I was like, well what did you get? 618 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 2: And she's like, I got the token. I amost that 619 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 2: molays in a run run the world god and losing 620 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 2: her mind. But she's she's taken a school Yeah fine, yeah, 621 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 2: same with Oscar. I mean the thing for us like 622 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 2: that he's frothing on is who's the fastest. That's that's 623 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 2: what boys do, right, They're like, who's the fastest in 624 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 2: the school And every week it's different. He's very quick, 625 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 2: he's very quick, but he was like this kid was 626 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 2: faster than me last week, but this week was definitely 627 00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 2: faster than him. 628 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: Or like this is so base. Who's I know, I 629 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: know who's the fastest is the best? But all the 630 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: girls like, oh my god, there's that. It was really funny, 631 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: like we've got like a really long track to get 632 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: to school. Yeah, one entrance, one exit, and you know, 633 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: we walk all the way down with him and I 634 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: was like, what you do today, you know? And he 635 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: was like, oh, we did rhyming words and I was like, 636 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: oh yeah, like what words and he was like like 637 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: truck and I was like, okay, don't do it. Don't 638 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: do it. Don't do it rhymes with truck and he 639 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: was like fuck. I was like, and there's a little 640 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: girl in front of us that was in her grade too, 641 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: and she was like, oh yeah, does wrong with that? 642 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: And you're like my work. I was just like, oh, 643 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: this is good year. So it's how fast you are. 644 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: The running is definitely a big who's the fastest? And 645 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: another one is that I wanted to ask you about 646 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: is obviously lunches. All kids want canteen food. They just 647 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: they just want on a Friday. Yeah, so we haven't 648 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: done it at all, but the kids are trying to 649 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: manipulate all the parents by saying every oh, this kid 650 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: gets it every day, like everyone gets it but me, 651 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: And so we've figured them out. Lenny and Oscar obviously 652 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: in the same cli wat trying to playoffs. They're trying 653 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: to play each other, but they don't realize that. We 654 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: talked to his parents. It's so dumb. And apparently Lenny 655 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: went home and was like, uh, everyone gets Canteen food 656 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: every day except for me, and they were like everyone 657 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: everyone gets Oscar. They're like, hang on a moment rings 658 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: April on lad Speak and He's like, does os get 659 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: Canteen food And I was like, na, not yet, and 660 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: they were like, see Lenny just trying to We were 661 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: all like showing him like that because it's all on 662 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: apps and stuff. Now that's that's a that's a crazy thing. 663 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 2: Like Laura was like, hey, you got to put in 664 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 2: eight am is a deadline in the morning of put 665 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 2: your order in, and she's like, just do it on the. 666 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: App and I was like, what, where's the brown paper bag? 667 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 2: You just ride on like sausage roll dollars sixty. Put 668 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 2: the money in the battle sausage roll twelve dollars sixty. 669 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 2: Very expensive. But they have apps now. They have apps 670 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 2: for Canti. 671 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: Any app called I have a really good name for 672 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 1: that app. It's called the app should be called brown paperbag. 673 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: Just saying the app right, no good, it's not your best. 674 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,919 Speaker 1: I'll put it down to yet I. I just thought 675 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: of it. 676 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 2: I'll put it down to your ADHD. 677 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I'm not going to tell you things if 678 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: you're going to use it against me. So I also 679 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: have a massive penis. 680 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 2: But Marley today has her first exam. First example, see 681 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 2: already first test they have. They do these reading tests 682 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 2: to figure out what books you get, So you get 683 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 2: different books depending on your ability to the library at. 684 00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: The library or do you guys have a library or school? Yeah? 685 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 2: I think so, I don't know school. I zoned out 686 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 2: during the parent teaching. There is some kind of a library. 687 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 3: I think, I don't know. 688 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 2: It was a forty five minute meeting about school curriculum, 689 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 2: so I was twenty. Can I just say to the 690 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 2: teacher it was great. 691 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: Try and do it with ADHD. It's not a competition broke. 692 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 2: It's but Maria's going to find it. Maria's going to 693 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 2: find out what level her reading is. That she's so good, 694 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 2: she's very good. She's freakishly good. Like Reeds better than me. 695 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: Doing a running test today, mondays Marley's doing a reading. 696 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: She's like, what's this? 697 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 2: But Lola hates it. Lola's like, why is she going 698 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 2: to a separate school? So now we're debating. We were 699 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 2: going to hold back Lola for one more year of 700 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 2: daycare next year, but now we're like, do you know what, 701 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 2: Let's just send them both. 702 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: She's a fair baby, so I think I think she'll 703 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: be five when she starts. Yeah, fine, right, I don't know. 704 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 2: Send her Yes, the draft, Yeah this one, fine, give 705 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 2: to this one. But it's so fast and good, so 706 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,760 Speaker 2: fast good, and the parents that we've met are lovely. 707 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 1: I really love it. 708 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 2: And the most exciting part ash I'm going to get 709 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:19,439 Speaker 2: my electric bike this weekend so I can start doing 710 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 2: drop offs. 711 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: In my bike. I've been doing the drop offs on 712 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: a bike because it's carnage down there. It's an nightmare. Absolute. 713 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 2: I would rather spend an afternoon in Hell than do 714 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 2: a drop off in the car. 715 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: Trying to find a part, and I'm like five hundred 716 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 1: meters from the school. But the problem is it's like 717 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,839 Speaker 1: all uphill on the way back, which to walk. It's like, oh, 718 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,919 Speaker 1: but the electric bike. You just mosey back up because 719 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: Oscar must love it. Loves it every day, even April 720 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,479 Speaker 1: and I rode the bike to parent teacher interviews April together. 721 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. 722 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: Man, everyone's trying to get parks. I rode all the 723 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: way down to the front of the school. Where was 724 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: she sitting on the back. She's sitting, bitch, baby, what's 725 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,399 Speaker 1: that the seat behind where you grab like that? There's 726 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: plenty of grab onto at the moment, that's for sure. 727 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 1: She was like, all this, you look great, thank you? 728 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, did you get the bucket one? 729 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 2: A little buck at the front, double seat at the back? 730 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 2: I got the real I got the dad Mode one. 731 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 2: You got the cool one I've got, you got the 732 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 2: cool surf one. 733 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 1: I've got a new one coming. Oh jeez, must be nice. 734 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:24,879 Speaker 3: This one's just a freebie. This one just someone who 735 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 3: wants to with the odd one. Ah, I don't know, 736 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 3: that's mine. How many how many electric bikes do you need? 737 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: I needed a new one because the one I've got 738 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: is not powerful enough for all the hill. 739 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 2: Hey, we have a little update. A little while ago 740 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 2: would have been last year, the end of November. 741 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: Can you believe it's nearly the end of fair? But 742 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: I can't. I cannot, I cannot. Where does the time go? 743 00:37:54,880 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: Where did it go? Lost it? I'm thirty five this year. Yeah, okay, 744 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: you're forty. I'm thirty eight. Yeah, your wife's forty though 745 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:06,959 Speaker 1: these gray hairs. 746 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 2: Bro. 747 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: Anyway, we did the calendar, the raaunchry raunge calendar. He did. 748 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 2: You may be wondering, Ash, how much money did we 749 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 2: raise because we were donating all proceeds to a great 750 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 2: charity called rise Up. They support victims of domestic violence. Ash, 751 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 2: have a guess how much money we will be donating. 752 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 2: Fifty bucks, A little bit more than that. It is 753 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 2: three thousand, five hundred and fourteen dollars will be donated 754 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 2: to rise Up. 755 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: That is outstanding, and that is because of the listeners. 756 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 2: So thank you so much for your support. That is 757 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:36,240 Speaker 2: a roundom applause. 758 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's worth a round the clause. 759 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 2: Are we are a clapping podcast? 760 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: Now? Now where's two doting clappers? 761 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 2: So yeah, I really appreciate the support. We do have 762 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 2: some calendars left, so if you would like to hit 763 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 2: your hands. I know we talked about the year going 764 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 2: so far, but. 765 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: There's plenty of time. We'll had two extra months at 766 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: the year. He got nine months to enjoy the calendar. 767 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 1: That's all they have to do is put the two 768 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 1: front months at the end. Just roll it on into 769 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,840 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. Yes, March twentieth. 770 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 2: This guy's good a business. We will put a link 771 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 2: in the shows. We will put the link in the 772 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 2: show notes where you can buy the calendar. But a 773 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 2: huge thanks for all your support. 774 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 1: And we obviously need to do like March twentieth as 775 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: a two doing Dad Day or something. Why is that 776 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 1: again because we did twice cops. Yeah, yeah, that is. 777 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 1: That is quality control on that calendar seems to. 778 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 2: But but if you haven't bought one, it's a great calendar. Yeah, 779 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 2: there's a couple of mistakes in there, but ignore it 780 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 2: doesn't matter. 781 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: Now it still rolls on. I think if it didn't 782 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: roll on, if it threw every other day, it's just numbers, 783 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: just numbers. 784 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 2: It doesn't it doesn't make any major impact. 785 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the calendar exactly? No one. You should buy one, 786 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: no one to buy in the calendar for the dates 787 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: to the pictures. That's the for days anyway, that's good. 788 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: That's good gear. 789 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 2: And on that note, we will get out of here. 790 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 2: You've got to drive home. I'm going to pick up 791 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 2: the kids. 792 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 1: Ashy. If you've enjoyed this episode, what should you do? 793 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: You should leave a review, subscribe like whatever you do? 794 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 1: Yeah five stars. Follow us on TikTok, Instagram and Facebook. Facebook. 795 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: We will speak to you guys when I get back. 796 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: When I get back from day oh. 797 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 2: God, please be safe, look after yourself well, come back 798 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 2: in one piece always. 799 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: I am a soldiers. I'm done. I'll be fine. We'll 800 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: see you guys. 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