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Speaker 1: And joining me live in the studio right now is

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Speaker 1: the opposition leader Leofanoki Airo. Good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Lea morning Katie into your listeners.

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Speaker 1: Now we've who yesterday a bit more detail I think

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Speaker 1: you'd have to say about the Labor a re elected

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Speaker 1: Labor government saying that they're going to commit to funding

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Speaker 1: the domestic family and Violence services for one hundred and

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Speaker 1: eighty million dollars over five years, based on the recommendations

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Speaker 1: of the Interagency Coordination and Reform Office, not as the ICRO.

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Speaker 1: That announcement came last week at a dv rally, with

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Speaker 1: details now sort of starting to become a bit more clear,

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Speaker 1: but essentially budget twenty twenty four they say has seventy

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Speaker 1: million dollars allocated for domestic family and sexual violence and

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Speaker 1: the government says it's going to work to meet the

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Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty million dollar target has already begun

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Speaker 1: with thirty million dollars secured since budget twenty three, are

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Speaker 1: further twenty million committed in budget twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Lea.

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Speaker 1: Is the COLP going to match this announcement?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, correct, Katie.

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Speaker 4: So we've been very clear that this money is already

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Speaker 4: in the budget and we will support that going forward.

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Speaker 1: That's what I wonder.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it's I think there's a bit of smoke and

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Speaker 4: mirrors happening here, Katie. To be honest, it's a couple

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Speaker 4: of weeks out from an election and Labor is desperate

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Speaker 4: for a good news story. But we are very, very

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Speaker 4: focused on tackling the root causes of domestic and family violence.

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Speaker 4: We know it is destroying people's lives, We know that

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Speaker 4: it is what police are responding to the most. We

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Speaker 4: know it is what's filling our prisons, and so we

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Speaker 4: have to be dealing with the issue at its core,

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Speaker 4: which is why we're so focused on alcohol rehabilitation. It's

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Speaker 4: why we need to give police better powers and protect

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Speaker 4: victims by ensure that, at the very minimum, if serious

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Speaker 4: violent offenders are bailed, which we don't think they should be,

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Speaker 4: but if they are, they should be wearing an ankle bracelet.

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Speaker 1: So Leah, from your perspective, I mean, if the CLP

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Speaker 1: is prepared to commit this one hundred and eighty million

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Speaker 1: dollars over five years, you know, prepared to do the

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Speaker 1: same basically, that's what Labour's going to do. What is

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Speaker 1: that money going to go towards.

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Speaker 4: This is about rolling out the domestic and family violence strategy.

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Speaker 4: It goes towards funding obviously more shelters, which we have

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Speaker 4: a critical need for. There is a lack of capacity

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Speaker 4: in our shelters. We've also been very clear when it

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Speaker 4: comes to public housing that we have eight plus year

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Speaker 4: wait lists across the territory. We have people currently in

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Speaker 4: territory housing destroying those homes, crime, antisocial behavior, and if

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Speaker 4: those people have total disregard for.

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Speaker 2: The home they've been given.

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Speaker 4: We want to make sure people vulnerable, people who really

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Speaker 4: need a roof over their head get one.

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Speaker 1: So how does that sort of fit in with this

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Speaker 1: TV announcement, the domestic violence announcement. So that's going to

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Speaker 1: be part of the funding. It's going to go towards

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Speaker 1: that housing.

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Speaker 4: Or no, no, that housing already that housing is already

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Speaker 4: funded by government. What we're saying is, not only are

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Speaker 4: we going to have that seventy million plus the one

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Speaker 4: eighty over the five years, we're going to strengthen the laws,

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Speaker 4: give police better powers, We're going to have mandatory rehabilitation

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Speaker 4: and behavioral change programs in prison, and we are also

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Speaker 4: going to be looking at territory housing and how we

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Speaker 4: can strictly enforce US three strikes through out policy so

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Speaker 4: that we can get particularly women and children into a

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Speaker 1: I mean that is something that we do here quite

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Speaker 1: a bit about in fact from a lot of our listeners.

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Speaker 1: So those concerns around public housing, and they're not really

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Speaker 1: like a lot of people feeling like it's not as

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Speaker 1: strongly sort of you know, held down or comply you know,

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Speaker 1: make sure that people are complying is what they should be.

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Speaker 1: But look just you know, still sort of in this space,

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Speaker 1: but you know, looking at those programs, it's the CLP

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Speaker 1: going to conduct some kind of udit to ensure that

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Speaker 1: the programs are actually working.

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Speaker 4: Yet we've been very clear around needing to order to

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Speaker 2: You know, this is tax payers money.

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Speaker 4: There's only a small amount of it that it's going

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Speaker 4: into programs at work. But what we know is that

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Speaker 4: the sector is chronically has a chronic shortage, so we

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Speaker 4: recognize immediately that more needs to be done. We also

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Speaker 4: need to be dealing with the root causes though, which

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Speaker 4: is something labor continues to ignore. So through mandatory alcohol treatment,

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Speaker 4: programs within prison, by making sure we're providing greater housing

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Speaker 4: we have electronic monitoring of perpetrators who are bailed, we

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Speaker 1: I mean, there was some research I believe it was

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Speaker 1: last week released by Menzi's School of Health that it

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Speaker 1: said that that mandatory alcohol rehabilitation doesn't work. What do

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Speaker 4: Well, what they also said was that when it's you know,

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Speaker 4: someone's given up on themselves, are we going to leave

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Speaker 4: people to die in the gutter?

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Speaker 2: And that's Labour's position, that's not our positions.

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Speaker 1: Is that a bit off?

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Speaker 2: No, it's absolutely true.

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Speaker 4: We're talking about chronically affected alcoholics. We're talking about people

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Speaker 4: that cannot help themselves. Their fe families have tried, they

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Speaker 4: probably have tried, but they are in the deep grips

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Speaker 4: of addiction. And we are not going to give up

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Speaker 4: on those people because they end up causing harm to themselves,

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Speaker 4: their community, their family, and that's unacceptable. It ends up

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Speaker 4: becoming a police issue, and our police have other things

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Speaker 4: to do, like protecting our community. So we must have

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Speaker 4: all levels of rehabilitation, including mandatory and I've had some

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Speaker 4: really heartening conversations with the sector around what new models

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Speaker 2: It does it. This is not about incarceration.

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Speaker 4: This is about making sure we turn people's life around

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Speaker 4: and deal with demand. Because labour are only focused on

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Speaker 4: the supply of alcohol, but they're forgetting that for as

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Speaker 4: long as people are addicted, they will go to great

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Speaker 4: lengths to get their drug of choice, and our alcohol

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Speaker 4: being a predominant choice, and so we must deal with

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Speaker 4: that demand.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's move along. We discussed yesterday the latest

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Speaker 1: COMSEXT State of the State's report. It's been released and

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Speaker 1: it makes for some pretty dire reading for the Northern Territory.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're sitting last in six of the eight

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Speaker 1: benchmark categories and show a sharp decline in economic activity. Now,

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Speaker 1: the concept State of the State's Economic Performance did show

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Speaker 1: economic growth in the territory in the March quarter was

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Speaker 1: down seven point seven percent on its long run average,

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Speaker 1: percent increase. Now, I will say that concept does acknowledge

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Speaker 1: is why it also provides an annual growth rate. Leah,

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Speaker 1: what do you make of the report?

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Speaker 4: Firstly, Well, I think that qualification says it all that

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Speaker 4: there's no more excuses for evil Lawler and Labor. They

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Speaker 4: have done the numbers to account for impacts and it

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Speaker 4: still shows we are the worst performing economy in the nation.

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Speaker 4: This is more than five and a half years now, Katie.

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Speaker 4: What is it going to take for Labor to understand

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Speaker 4: that their policy direction is failing our community? We cannot

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Speaker 4: why our plan and our team has the solutions to

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Speaker 4: rebuild the territory. We are very focused on economic growth

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Speaker 4: because if people don't have good jobs here, they will leave.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's easier said than done, though, right Like,

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Speaker 1: nobody wants to see the economy floundering, and I'm sure

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Speaker 1: those numbers that are coming through because why would they, like, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, if the economy is failing, they're failing essentially, But.

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Speaker 2: I think their priorities are wrong. That's the issue.

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Speaker 4: You have a labor team whose priorities and are not economic.

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Speaker 4: They're not about community safety, and that's very clear. They

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Speaker 4: have spent eleven billion dollars Katie in eight years. It's

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Speaker 4: extraordinary amounts of money, and territories feel like we have

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Speaker 4: nothing to show for it now.

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Speaker 2: Our plan is very clear.

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Speaker 4: We need to have a strong economy so that we

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Speaker 4: good jobs, good pay, and cut this cost of living crisis.

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Speaker 4: And to do that, we have to be a safe

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Speaker 4: place to invest, which is why we're reforming payroll tax.

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Speaker 4: It's why we will speed up approval time times and

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Speaker 4: make the territory an excellent place to run a business.

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Speaker 1: The government's made a number of announcements in recent days

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Speaker 1: now they clearly see gas as being the way to

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Speaker 1: get the economy moving. What does a CLP plan to

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Speaker 1: do to get the economy moving? Is gas a part

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Speaker 4: Gas has always been a part of the colp's plan.

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Speaker 4: And while labor are tied and divided on this issue,

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Speaker 4: I mean, you just can't trust labor all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: They are divided on gas and can't be trusted.

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Speaker 4: So gas is an important part, but it's not the

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Speaker 3: Lea.

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Speaker 1: Are you guys united though? Because we did catch up

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Speaker 1: with Helen's secretary of course, your candidate for Nightcliff and

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Speaker 1: ask some questions about gas. Take a listen to what

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Speaker 3: Look, Katie, I've been involved as a Laroche senior custodian.

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Speaker 3: I'm on the Middle Arm consecutive Committee. Larity of people

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Speaker 3: have not given permission for that idea. I'm dealing with

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Speaker 3: Santalk in regards to them taken over kind and regards

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Speaker 3: to pre pipelines to harbor. I'm not happy with any

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Speaker 3: of that at the moment because there is still settlement,

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Speaker 3: waste and contamination in the harbor from the previous developers

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: I know, as a last Facardian, we have not given

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Speaker 1: So that was Helen's secretary, your candidate for Nightcliffe on

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Speaker 1: the show last week. I mean, you guys divided on gas.

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Speaker 4: She's talking about Middle arm and the fact that this

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Speaker 4: government haven't done the work to secure She.

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Speaker 1: Then talks about Santos so as well.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's offshore gas, so we're not talking about right, No, no, no,

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Speaker 4: She's talking about the approvals process that this government has

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Speaker 4: failed to go through and a lack of consultation. What

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Speaker 4: we know that is that gas is an important part

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Speaker 4: and we're very excited about the future, but it's not

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Speaker 4: the only par We see huge economic opportunities, particularly in

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Speaker 4: remote communities and the Bush, for agricultural development, for mining,

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Speaker 4: for tourism, and for defense.

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Speaker 2: So we have it.

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Speaker 1: Is it a worry though, if you've got members of

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Speaker 1: your team who don't support Middle Arm? I mean, is

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Speaker 1: Middle arm part of the building the economy for the COLP.

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Speaker 4: No, it's not that, That's not Helen's position. Helen's saying

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Speaker 4: she's part of the reference group that the government have

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Speaker 4: put together and government haven't secured the approvals of Larachie yet,

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Speaker 4: which just reinforces again how far away Middle Army is

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Speaker 4: under a labor government. They talk about it as if

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Speaker 4: there's construction happening right now, but they haven't secured the approvals.

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Speaker 3: May look.

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Speaker 1: My specific question to her and the other candidates last

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Speaker 4: And that was her response, Yeah, where she talked about

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Speaker 1: So you're saying she does support the development of gas, yes, Helen.

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Speaker 4: Helen is very If anyone talks to Helen, and I

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Speaker 2: But to do that, we have to.

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Speaker 4: Be a safe place to live, work and invest, which

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Speaker 4: detailed in our plan, make sure that we empower our police,

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Speaker 2: Is the envy of the nation is that.

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Speaker 1: Though I mean part of the thing that's sort of

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Speaker 1: holding up. I would think even the development of middle

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Speaker 1: Arm is the approvals process. But then to the heart

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Speaker 1: of what Helen was saying is that she says the

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Speaker 1: Larter Kew people haven't approved it. So you're saying you're

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Speaker 4: No, saying that Labor have not been at the table

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Speaker 1: Lookly, let's move along because I've actually got a few

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Speaker 1: listener questions that I want to get to. I've got

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Speaker 1: one here that says, Hi, Katie, can you ask Leah

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Speaker 4: Yes, we have maintained that position for probably six or

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Speaker 4: It's about having correctional offices with that youth experience managing

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Speaker 1: Leah, that one was from Karen from Farah, but another

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Speaker 1: actually came through yesterday. Can you please ask Leah what

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Speaker 4: growing our economy is number two and ensuring our lifestyle

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Speaker 4: is there for all territorians.

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Speaker 1: So I mean the ALP and not trying to get

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Speaker 1: be investing in. Is that something that the CELP is

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Speaker 2: Well, we do need to get the fundamentals right.

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Speaker 4: What we have is a tied, divided labor government desperate

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Speaker 4: don't be fooled by labor. This is a time where

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Speaker 4: they are going to throw money around that they don't have.

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Speaker 4: It's your money, they're spending it to buy your vote.

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Speaker 4: This is about delivering a future for the territory where

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Speaker 4: we can live free, where we can enjoy our life,

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Speaker 4: And that's the proposition the CLP are putting for.

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Speaker 1: So no pump tracks or anything from the CELP.

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Speaker 4: Well, the Council's already delivering pump tracks out at Palmerston.

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Speaker 4: So again, don't be fooled by a desperate labor government

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Speaker 4: wanting to buy your vote three weeks out from an election.

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Speaker 1: Lea, we are going to have to leave it there.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much for your time this morning.

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Speaker 2: As always, thank you everyone,