1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. Coming up on the show, 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: the motive behind billionaire Kylie Jenner's Playboy photo shoot, while 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: We're loving the all access pass into PR Queen Roxy 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: Jazanco's life, and is a Bachelor's Matt Agnew about to 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: pull a Blake Garvey. But first, Kate, how was your week? 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 1: I had a bit of a shock this weekend. I 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: went to the optometrist for my regular contact lens check 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: up that I have every year, and the optometrist told 9 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: me I'm actually considered legally blind. Now. You rang me 10 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: on the weekend to tell me this, and I couldn't 11 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: believe it. I had to google straight away. I'm not 12 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: really surprisedly after some of your calls on the tennis court, 13 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: you were always when Kate play tennis here and so 14 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: if they'd always have arguments with old people. At first 15 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: I was upset, and then I was like, ooh. I 16 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: googled it to see if I've got any benefits, but 17 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: unfortunately I don't because I'm considered legally blind without my 18 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: contact lenses in. But when I've got my contact lenses in, 19 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: I'm twenty twenty vision. So I think if if you 20 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: actually can't have your vision corrected. You were actually then 21 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: considered to have benefits, but I thought it might be 22 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: a good way to be able to get a new puppy. Yeah, 23 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: I think it's the perfect way. You need a seeing 24 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: eye dog. Clearly, yes, another Golden Retriever puppy to go 25 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: with Shadow. How is your weekend, Sophie. I've had an 26 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: exhausting weekend. I was supposed to have a house inspection today, 27 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: so I've literally been cleaning all weekend. And we also 28 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: decided to get a new couch and set up our 29 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: rooms in completely different ways. That was a good idea 30 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: to do with the house cleaning, or we decided we 31 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: wanted a fresh slate, just get it all done. And 32 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: I was so relieved this morning when I got up. 33 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: The inspection was supposed to be at nine o'clock, finished 34 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: at eleven. Then at one o'clock I get an email 35 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: from our landlord, who is a legend by the way, 36 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: but saying that he couldn't get into the property with 37 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: the key. So now I don't know when he's coming back. 38 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: So I'm going to live in this state of having 39 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: to keep the house really clean. Well, my whole week 40 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: has been spent scouring gum Tree for some dining room 41 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: chairs and I found some dining room chairs. I did 42 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: the deal, got them for sixty five dollars, which was 43 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: an absolute bargain and shock horror, my boyfriend Dale and 44 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: I actually agreed that we both liked them. I was 45 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: going to pick them up tonight and I got an 46 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: email saying, oh sorry, my husband sold them already despite 47 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: promising me them to find them later on Facebook marketplace. 48 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: So someone's bought them and then doubled the price, and 49 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: now I'm like, do I contact the other people for 50 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 1: the chairs on the topic of marketplace, If anyone's after 51 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: a genuine Gucci necklace, please look up a look up 52 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: my listing. Unfortunately it was purchased by an absolute asshole, 53 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: hence the need to get rid of it. It's quite 54 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: nice neckclace. It's going for two hundred and eighty dollars 55 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: and it was apparently very reasonable. Apparently it was three 56 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty originally. Hit Kate up there. So moving on, 57 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: the latest edition of Playboy magazine hits the stands today 58 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: on the cover with her face noticeably absent and dressed 59 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: in red lingerie with a diamond encrusted Playboy Bunny necklace 60 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: around her neck is self made billionaire Kylie Jenna. Twelve 61 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: years after big sister Kim Grace the cover, Kylie has 62 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: done the same. While many models use the cover to 63 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: promote their own careers, Kylie's brand clearly doesn't need the boost. 64 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: So is this move more about building someone else's brand 65 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: than her own? Firstly, Kate, can we talk about the photos? 66 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 1: So for those who haven't seen them, can you talk 67 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: us through the Playboy spread? Well, yeah, you would think 68 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: because Travis Scott's been involved, there might be quite tasteful. So, 69 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, the first shot is basically her tits 70 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: on the front cover. Her face is completely cut out, 71 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: so you wouldn't even know what was her. They're not 72 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: really getting their money's worth there with branding them if 73 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: her face is cut out. But how degrading is that 74 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: to Kylie Jenner? Well, it's Playboy, but how we even 75 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: meant to know that it's Kylie jenn Oh? I recognize 76 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: those tits from Instagram? To be fair, I actually did 77 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: recognize her breast and her hands. I didn't. They should 78 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: have included her lips than that people would have known 79 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: for sure. At least a bit of a cutaway of 80 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: the lips. And then also her famous ass isn't a 81 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: lot of the vision and it's not full well, there 82 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: is one that's full on nudity of her bum from 83 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: when she's wearing a hat, but her ass isn't as 84 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: famous as Kim Kardashians. Only I hear more about her 85 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: lips in her eyes. I think her ass is getting 86 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: there in popularity, yeah, definitely. And there's also a lot 87 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: of her lying around in the desert with oh there's 88 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: one of her nipple, Oh my god, Jesus. So yeah, 89 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: it's not very tasteful. I personally wouldn't have thought this 90 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: had been well, as it says on the Playboy website 91 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: moderated by Travis Scott. Now, as you were talking about 92 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: Travis Scott here, for those who don't know, Travis Scott 93 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: is the was the creative director of this Playboy shoot 94 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: and he is the reason that Kylie Jenner wanted to 95 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: do it, and he's of course Kylie Jenna's baby daddy 96 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: for those who've been not keeping up with the Kardashians. 97 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: So Travis actually sat down with Kylie Jenner to ask 98 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: her questions about their sex life, how it's changed since 99 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: she's become a mother. Did they talk about their love 100 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: of peanut butter and jelly sandwiches like their last interview? No, 101 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: actually they did it, but it was interesting because Kylie said, 102 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: I never thought i'd post for Playboy, but I love 103 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: the new covers. What they're doing right now creativity, and 104 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: you presented me with the idea. Sorry, can I just 105 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: interject creativity? Here's a pair of tits without a face anyway, 106 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: So she goes on to say, you know that she 107 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: trusted his creativity. So basically what a lot of people 108 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: are saying is that Kylie Jenner is purely doing this 109 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: to build Travis Scott's brand. Well, the photoshoots entitled wild 110 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: in Love Kylie by Travis. Is it just me? Or 111 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: I wouldn't really think someone's wild in love if they're 112 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: allowing their girlfriend to pose nude for other guys to 113 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: oggle her. Well, a lot of people are saying that 114 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: posing for some women, posing nude can be quite empowering, 115 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: and people are saying, in relation to Kylie Jenna that 116 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: it's kind of this Playboy shoot is showing that she 117 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: has it all. So while most models have to be 118 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: on Playboy to boost their profile. Clearly Kylie Jenner does not, 119 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: but they're saying she's showing that you can be in 120 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: a relationship, be a great mind, and those things can 121 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: coexist while appearing in Playboy. How empowering sitting near her 122 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: boyfriend's crotch in a photo holding his leg? How is 123 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: that an empowering photo? Wow, I've got a boyfriend, I've 124 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: got a baby, I'm rich, and I'm objectified. A lot 125 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: of people are throwing around the fact that Kylie Jenner's 126 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 1: brand is stronger than Playboy's brand at the moment, and 127 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: Playboy actually need her. So this collaboration is being explained 128 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: as a three way collaboration where Kylie Jenner sits at 129 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: the top, then Playboy, then Travis Scott. So a lot 130 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: of people are saying that La Kardashian Klan is known 131 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: as being so supportive, so she's clearly supporting him into 132 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: getting his image out there. But I thought it was 133 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: also interesting that Playboy has really struggled to move on 134 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: from that kind of eighties perception into twenty nineteen. So 135 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: a lot of brand experts are saying that Kylie is 136 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: aligning with them because she's a very aspirational brand, so 137 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: they kind of want to reinvent themselves with this, you know, 138 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: kind of new generation of girls. I would like to 139 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: know how much money Kylie Jenner was paid for these photographs, 140 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: because she doesn't need, as you said, to be in Playboy, 141 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: so it is a very interesting move on her behalf. Well, 142 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: they're also saying it's very clever having Scott involved because 143 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: the things are very pioneering move because we haven't really 144 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: seen anything like that before. Like what other models have 145 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: you seen posed with their partners or have them as 146 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: the creative director in Playboy. I'm confused, though, how does 147 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: it build Like obviously it builds a bit of his 148 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: profile because it gets people talking, But I just don't 149 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: understand the move. To me, it's not something that you'd 150 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: want to be known for that you're pimping your girlfriend out. 151 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: They're not seeing him as pimping her out. They're seeing 152 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: him as being creative. Maybe he's wanting to move into 153 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: this creative photo landscape. I don't know. But it didn't 154 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: even definitely talking about it, aren't we He didn't even 155 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: take the photos. They were moderated by him. Agarese. He 156 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: appeared in the photos and was in the interviewers. Yeah, 157 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: the photo of Tita yep, yep, tik of approval. The 158 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: thing that I thought of was, obviously, we're huge Kardashian fans, 159 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: and in season one, they had a whole episode about 160 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian posing in Playboy, and she was saying that 161 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: she didn't want to appear in the nude, but Chris 162 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: Jenna was pushing her to do so. It isn't the 163 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: episode where they go to the Playboy mansion and Chris 164 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: Jenna steals the Playboy soap. Yes, what a classic. She 165 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: really cemented herself as that momager in that episode. See, 166 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: I think it would be more controversial if they actually 167 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: got a picture of Chris. I'd want to Well, it 168 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: was her lifelong ambition, she said in that episode, to 169 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: be in Playboy, so that's why she was pushing it. 170 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: So she'd still be looking pretty good that she could be, 171 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: or even a photo of Caitlyn Jenna that'd be even 172 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 1: more kind Kim and Kylie together. Kim doesn't Kim doesn't 173 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: need to be in that photograph. I don't think Kanye 174 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: would like her posing alongside her sister. You don't need 175 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 1: the Internet broken again. Do you know how much? Do 176 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: you know how much Kim got paid for that photo? 177 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: Show much? One hundred and ten thousand dollars, which is 178 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: pretty minimal for them, and they said at the time 179 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: it was small, but it was, as I said, Kj's 180 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: lifelong dream to pose in Playboy. So I think the 181 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: brand alignment worked well for them. Well that set of 182 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: time as well, when Kim Kardashian wasn't as popular. She 183 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: was better known for dating Nick Lache and being in 184 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 1: a sex tape than being the Kim Kardashian we know now. 185 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: That was a reason for not wanting to be in 186 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: the photo shoot, because she didn't want to be known 187 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 1: as someone who just took her clothes off. Do you 188 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: remember when, Yeah, that whole spiel, and then she did 189 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: that photo shoot where they claimed they were gonna she 190 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: had to post suit or something and that, yeah, in 191 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: the pain and then they were going to put pictures 192 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: in her bump. But now she's really owned it, like 193 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: with that photo shoot where she's got the wine, you know, 194 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: when they broake the Internet. Yeah, well, I think good 195 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: on her. The whole Kylie and Travis ing does perplex me. 196 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: Abein I'm interested to see what happens and where this takes. Travis, 197 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: the thing that annoys me about the whole shoot is 198 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: as you mentioned earlier, So if you Kylie Genner is 199 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: of course a billionaire, this is not something that she 200 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: needs to do. And I do feel like it's objectifying her. 201 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: And it's a bit like when the Kardashians put up 202 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: posts where they've obviously been paid lots of money to 203 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: promote competitions they don't or to promote skinny teas or whatever. 204 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: They are so wealthy and have so many opportunities they 205 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: don't need to be doing stuffing. I disagree. This is 206 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: what they're kind of known for. Like how many shots 207 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: have we seen of Courtney just on Instagram with their 208 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: bum out getting into the bath. The Kardashians are known 209 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: for their bodies. I didn't find the photos particularly offensive. 210 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: I did I find it offensive for young women out 211 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: there to think that there are only a pair of 212 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: tits on a magazine. She's got an extremely young fan 213 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 1: base who are going to see these photos and think 214 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 1: that you aspire to be a pair of tits on 215 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: a magazine. And also it's like, yeah, you've got a 216 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: pair of tits that and you can use that to 217 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: then get your partner up on the chain. Well, at 218 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: the same time, the article. I know people say no 219 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: one reads Playboy for the article, but the article did 220 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: go into her family life, so it wasn't just her 221 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: being a pair of tits. But in saying that, do 222 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: you honestly think that that the article is not just 223 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: her being a pair of tits? Do you think it's 224 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: that this actually adds to her credibility. I don't think 225 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: it adds to her credibility. As I was saying, she doesn't 226 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: need to be doing it, but she's clearly doing it. 227 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: One probably because she's being paid to help out Playboy, 228 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: and two because she's helping out her partner, Travis Scott. 229 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: There is a very inspirational quote where she says, you know, 230 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: you can be a sexy, badass mum. It's great that 231 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: we've got that sort of literature out there at the moment. 232 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: I think that's fantastic. I'm sure a lot of praise 233 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: the point though she's got a one year old child, 234 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: she's also what is she twenty one? Twenty two? And 235 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure when I would love to see my mum 236 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: nuden Playboy pretending to be at the crutch of my 237 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: father like it is. I read an interesting article where 238 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: it said that Kylie Jenner has now surpassed Kim when 239 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: it comes to the number of searches on porn hub. 240 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: So that's really another person. I'm proud. I'm sure kJ 241 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: will be very proud. And now moving onto our headlines, 242 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: the first one reads ovis Soco break silence on India Reynolds' 243 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: breakup rumors after claims Love Islands star cheated with Kieran Gibbs. 244 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: And that's from The Evening Standard. May I ask who 245 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 1: is Kieren Gibbs. So, Kieran Gibbs is India's ex boyfriend 246 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 1: and he was a footballer, so apparently she's meant to 247 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: have gone to his birthday bash in Portugal, and Facebook 248 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: and Instagram and Twitter are all a flurry with rumors 249 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: that she had cheated. Well, who goes to their ex 250 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: boyfriend's birthday bash? If you're meeting up with your ex, 251 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that is cheating. I can see where the 252 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: rumors started circulating. So Ovi has come out at the 253 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: launch of his new Asos collection, which I love. He's 254 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: with his dad in it isn't it's so gorgeous anyway. 255 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: So he's come out and said that he and India 256 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: are happy. There was one quote that stood out to 257 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: me though, he said, regardless of the situation, I don't 258 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: think there ever has to be anyone that needs to 259 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: be demonized. So even though he said that they're happy, 260 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: it still seems to be a little bit of a 261 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: connotation that there is blame on her. The thing that 262 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: people forget about these relationships is they have known each 263 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: other what for over a month now? How long has 264 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: it been since Love Island's finished, and particularly how busy 265 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: they are as soon as they get out of the villa. 266 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: Some of them aren't even exclusive. Like you look at 267 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: Moura and Curtis, they won't even say that their boyfriend 268 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: and girlfriends. I think a lot of them are still 269 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 1: using I think the fact that they're still taking other 270 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 1: is more. Yeah, they're more powerful online. So just to add, 271 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: India's reps have come out and made a statement saying 272 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: there is no truth in this whatsoever, and ov and 273 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: India are still very much together and happy. So be 274 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: interesting to see what happens. Haven't there been no photos 275 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: of them online? I had to look at Ovi's and 276 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: the last photo was from I think the eighteenth of August. 277 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 1: I mean, whether or not they're just in separate parts 278 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 1: of the country on their promotional tour is one thing, 279 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 1: but who knows. Was pretty odd that India wasn't at 280 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: his ASOS launch. I saw every Love Island Star under 281 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: the Sun was at Moura's Booho launch, so it's a 282 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: bit weird. On a side note, I am so excited 283 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: for More's new podcast with Boo Who. It's incredible, it's dropping. 284 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: Oh what's dropping today? So it should be we should 285 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: get it tomorrow. Do you know what? Though, back to 286 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: the OV thing, I think it's a lot of fans 287 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: who are probably hoping their relationship ends. Just on the 288 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: topic of More, I actually saw something quite cool on 289 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: her Instagram. Sorry, I saw that she has been paid, 290 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: well I'm assuming paid, but I might be incorrect to 291 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: promote awareness of pap smears. So she put up a 292 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: tweet saying, you know, she got the she got the 293 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: nation talking about her fanny flutters and now she's getting 294 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: people talking about pap smells. I thought that was pretty 295 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: pretty good, just maketing, justtapositioning of brands. There. The next 296 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: headline is from a New Idea and it reads spoiler alert, 297 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: the Bachelor winner dumped by Matt already, So basically, there 298 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: are wild rumors circulating that Matt Agnew does a Blake 299 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: Garby Hi cool bullshit. So they're basically saying, for those 300 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: who don't know Blake, he dumped Sam Frost for Louise Pillage, 301 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: which Sophie used to get stopped in the street all 302 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: the time and asked if she was Louise. This is 303 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: when I had more over Bob. So the magazine is 304 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: claiming that fan favorite Chelsea will take home the final rows, 305 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: but then he will dump her for Abby. Oh can 306 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: you imagine he'd be more hated than the Honey Badger. 307 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: That is not a good movie for ten. This sauce 308 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: from New Idea went on to claim that Abby flew 309 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: to Melbourne after filming Wrapped for a secret visit and 310 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: apparently told her mates that she has a man, but 311 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: she keeps saying that while she wishes she could tell them, 312 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: she can't say any more than that. Is it just 313 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: me or does this reek of it being quite obvious 314 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: that Chelsea's gonna win, so they're trying to stoke up 315 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: some controversy. I definitely think that's what's happening. But what 316 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: has ignited this rumor even further was an interview that 317 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: Matt did on Kyle and JACKIEO earlier in the year. 318 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: So he was asked by Kyle do you pull a 319 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: Blake Garvey? And he said he didn't know what the 320 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: term meant, and then his producer butted in and said, oh, 321 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: it's because when you appeared on the show, have you 322 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: been paying attention? He just said, I pick a girl 323 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: from the show. He didn't specify that it was the 324 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: girl at the end of he picks that's clutching its straws. 325 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: Oh for sure. Well, I suppose we just have to 326 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: wait and see. It's only a couple of weeks now 327 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: until the final bastards are getting what they want to 328 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: have us on the edge of our seats. Can I 329 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: just say if on sports bet Chelsea is still the 330 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: clear favorite, so I think that's it's pretty obvious she's 331 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: gonna win. Do you still get your money if he 332 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: then picks Abby? Oh yeah, that's the point because yeah, 333 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: well they know because of the Blake Garvey fiasco, they 334 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: probably do get the money. If you pick out your winner. 335 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: They're all scratched. Yeah. And the next headline is from 336 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: news dot com dot Au and it says Little Mix 337 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: star Jesse Nelson attended suicide over online willing. This is 338 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: one that really upset me. So the article comes after 339 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: Jesse has released her own documentary outlining the horrendous trolling 340 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: she received after winning The X Factor with Little Mix, Amy, 341 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: what did you think about it? It really upset me. 342 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: She spoke very candidly about messages she received after the finale, 343 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: and one of those messages said you're you're a fat 344 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: You're fat and disgusting and you should kill yourself. And 345 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: it shocked me that people can be so nasty online. 346 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: List here of some of the horrifying things that were 347 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,479 Speaker 1: said to her. So, she was called a fat, singing whale. 348 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: The fat one is repulsive, Kill your fucking self, go 349 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: chop your fucking head off. Jesse's face is deformed, and 350 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: that one from Little Mix looks like miss Piggy from 351 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: the Muppets. I mean, who the hell is? Who the 352 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: hell has time to come up with this crap. It's 353 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,959 Speaker 1: a serious case of tall poppy syndrome. I mean, she 354 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: was she won, won the show, and she's having to 355 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: put up with this crap. And I was disturbed to 356 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: find that Katie Hopkins, who we spoke about last week, 357 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: who was involved in the Megan Markle debate, she actually 358 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: posted a vile comment on Twitter about Jesse after she performed. 359 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: After Jesse had lost all this weight, she's still called 360 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: it fat. The thing that shocks me is she's so beautiful. 361 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: She was not one You shouldn't call anyone fat, just 362 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: even if they are, but she's such a beautiful girl, 363 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: so talented. What is wrong with people? And the worst 364 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: bit is she actually did attempt to commit suicide, and 365 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: the suicide plot was actually foiled by her then boyfriend 366 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: at the time, who she let him know, hey, I've actually, 367 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: you know, done this, and he called an ambulance. So 368 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 1: it's just terrible and interestingly connected to Love Island. I 369 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: actually did not realize that she is dating Chris Hughes 370 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: from Love Island. I think the documentary put out a 371 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 1: very important message and I think as we were saying 372 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: that you're always gonna get jealous of people that you 373 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 1: see online, but to actually go to that next level 374 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: and tell someone to kill themselves is just unacceptable and 375 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: I think people need to take better care of the 376 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: way they talk online. On that topic, I saw a 377 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: very interesting photo come up from a mother who she 378 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: gave her daughter some advice before she went to high school. 379 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: So she made her daughter get a tube of toothpaste 380 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: and squirsh it all out, and then once she had 381 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: she asked her daughter to put all the toothpaste back 382 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: in the tube, and the daughter every cent. He said, well, 383 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: I can't, and she said, yes exactly. That's just like 384 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 1: your words. They come out, but you can't take them back. 385 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: So make sure you talk with kindness whenever you do, 386 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: because there are going to be times when you say 387 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: something that you might regret later on, and you might 388 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: not think it might affect anyone, but you never know 389 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 1: what people's mental states are like. That's such a great 390 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: message and I think that's something that we should all 391 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: take on board now. Moving on, on Wednesday night, viewers 392 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: were given an all access pass into PR Queen Roxy 393 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:22,719 Speaker 1: Desenko's glamorous and hectic lifestyle. The new reality show I 394 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: Am Roxy, which aired as part of ten's pilot Wheat, 395 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: took us inside the thirty nine year old's busy PR 396 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: agency Sweaty Betty, her six point six million dollar renovations, 397 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 1: and a rare glimpse of her family life. While as 398 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: debut to mixed reviews, it caused quite a stir online, 399 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: with hashtag I am Roxy trending on Twitter. What did 400 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: you guys think about the show? I personally loved it. 401 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: I absolutely loved it. It was very reminiscent of the 402 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: Lara Bingle reality show, which I also loved. Well, it's 403 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: funny that you say that because Hermione, who was Lara 404 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 1: Bingle's best friend on the show, was actually engaged to 405 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: Oliver Curtis, who's Roxy Desenko's husban. That is interesting. Well, 406 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 1: my favorite parts of the show, well, I just love 407 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: that she gave access to her whole life. I loved 408 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: the bit where she lost the plot because her husband 409 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: is designing her new I think it was a six 410 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: million dollar house and she has ordered him to create 411 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: this amazing walk in glam room. My favorite bit was 412 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: when Roxy lost the plot when she discovered her light 413 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: bulb mirror wasn't correct. So she had told Oliver she 414 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,959 Speaker 1: wanted a certain type of light bulb, and unfortunately they 415 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,479 Speaker 1: were too large and she thought they looked stupid, so 416 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: She absolutely went off at him. She was swearing at him. 417 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: The F bomb got dropped so many times, all in 418 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: front of Pixie. Roxy's defense the light bulbs were too big. Well, 419 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: so yeah, she lost it in front of a seven 420 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: year old daughter. She said the F bomb probably like 421 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: four times, and then Oliver said it back to her 422 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: and she goes, don't swear in front of the children. 423 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: And then later later in the episode she actually admitted 424 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: once all the rumors put together that the light bulbs 425 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: were correct and they did look really good. How about 426 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 1: when Roxy was getting the kids ready for school and 427 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: she gave them their little coffees? Do you think they 428 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: were baby Chino's. I was trying to work it out well. 429 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 1: So Roxy spoke on Carl and JACKIEO and she said 430 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: that she gives them skim mockers. Roxy went into more 431 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: detail about this on Carl and JACKIEO, and she said 432 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: that because she gets home at seven o'clock at night, 433 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: usually her kids would be asleep, but she actually lets 434 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: them stay up till eleven o'clock at night so she 435 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: can spend time with them. And because they spend so 436 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 1: much money on their schooling, she thinks that they need 437 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: this pep up during the day. But she made a 438 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: good point. Most parents are happy to give their kids 439 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: Coca cola, which has probably a similar amount of caffeine 440 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: in it than a skim mocker. As someone who works 441 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: in PR, I did find it really interesting to see 442 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: the ins and outs of Sweaty Betty. I've respected her 443 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: so much because you know, there's so many meetings that 444 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: you sit in where people don't give you ideas. You 445 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: could see she absolutely knew her stuff. When Roxy gave 446 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: that advice to that young public, you could just see 447 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: why she is so successful. She was clear and concise 448 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 1: with her point. Well, it was pretty valid she was 449 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: as a fashion and lifestyle PR agency. She was asking 450 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: her workers for stylist names and no one would give 451 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: her name, so I can see why she was pissed off. 452 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: It was absolutely fantastic when Roxy was going on how 453 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: she has to sit in the office with the girls 454 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: because she's just one of them. But then she's sitting 455 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: there having her hair and makeup done by a professional team. 456 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: Something that did attract a lot of attention on Twitter 457 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: was the fact that well respected political journalist Barry Cassidy 458 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 1: narrated the show, so He got asked a lot why 459 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: he chose to collaborate with Roxy, and he said that 460 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: he felt like his voice added a sense of mischief 461 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: and irony to the show because he's usually commentating on 462 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: politics and then moving into this kind of fun, bubbling 463 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 1: reality show, and so he got paid to do it. Well, 464 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: what interested me was the ratings debate with Roxy's show, 465 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: because she put on Instagram that it was a huge success, 466 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: and I from reading Twitter and other on other social media, 467 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: I also thought it was a great success. But you 468 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: read differently. So well, New Idea had other ideas. They 469 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: led with Roxy Jasenko show was a humiliating ratings flop. 470 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: So I am Roxy scored three hundred and ninety nine 471 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: thousand viewers what nationally? Yes, nationally. But so the reason 472 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: that Roxy is coming out and saying that it's a 473 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: rating success is one for the time slot. The show 474 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: that she replaced usually gets three hundred and forty three 475 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: thousand viewers, so it is at an eight forty time slot. 476 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: It's hardly prime time. What a lot of people. I 477 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: didn't realize it was that late. Actually, that is quite 478 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 1: a good win. A lot of critics were saying that 479 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: it should have rated better because it came off the 480 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: back of the Bachelor, So the Bachelor had seven hundred 481 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 1: thousand viewers, so it led into Roxy's show, so obviously 482 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: a lot of viewers did drop off, but it was 483 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: at a later timeslot. Well, the article that Roxy shed 484 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 1: actually is entitled Roxy Deesenko tops Ten's second stab at 485 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: Pilot Week, So in that respect, I mean it seemed 486 00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: like it was the best pilot, so it should be 487 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: made into a series. Yeah, well the other pilot's pretty 488 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: much bombed. So part Time Private Eyes got three hundred 489 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: and forty four oh, my four thousand, Sydney's Crazy Rich 490 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: Agents one hundred and seventy five thousand, and my eighty 491 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: year old flat mate one hundred and seventy four thousand. Oh. 492 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: I saw a bit of that first one that you saw. 493 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: It was dreadful. There were some absolute assholes who left 494 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: the nastiest comments about the show. So one said, we're 495 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 1: seven minutes in and I'm calling it. This is the 496 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: worst show to grace our screen so far this year. 497 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: And I've seen Sunrise a couple of times. Now, may 498 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 1: I point out, has this person seen the new Channel 499 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 1: seven show with Lindsay Lwen judging people dressed up in 500 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: in suits. It's a Channel ten show, but oh sorry, 501 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 1: a Channel ten show that hasn't actually said lat year. 502 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: It starts after Survivor talking about trash on Channel seven. 503 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: What about that hideous proposal show? I mean, that has 504 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: got to be the biggest load of crap. I loved 505 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: reality TV and I cringed watching it. But that's the thing. 506 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: You sit there sometimes I don't usually watch free to 507 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: air televis anymore, but you sit there and you're like, 508 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: what is this crap? But then they're bagging out Roxy 509 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: Jizenko's show, which was amazing. Shouldn't we be championing Australia's 510 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: successful business women rather than dragging them down? Like can't 511 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: we give her a bit more of a go? It 512 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: topped all of the pilots. I would love to see 513 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: it back on the air. I'm surprised that it's taken 514 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 1: this long for Roxy to have a reality show. In 515 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 1: the first five minutes, I was like, this is amazing. 516 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: I am hooked. I want to see more, far more 517 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 1: interesting than half the people who have reality others. At 518 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: the moment, all the shows in primetime are crap for families, 519 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: where's anything for the millennials. They need to get the 520 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: millennials back on free to AIRTV. And it is an 521 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: interesting move to have put I Am Roxy straight after 522 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: The Bachelor, because as we know with Channel ten, the 523 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: Bachelor does rate reasonably well, but it sometimes doesn't actually 524 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: win that time slot. But what's important to advertisers is 525 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: that that what's important to advertisers is that demographic of 526 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: women age what is it twenty to thirty five that 527 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: are watching, and that is the same tomographic that we'd 528 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: be watching Roxy to Senko, So it's a very powerful audience. 529 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 1: I'd also be interested to know if those figures from 530 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: pilot week with Roxy's show actually reflected the people that 531 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 1: watched it on ten play, because it's not like it's 532 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,479 Speaker 1: a show that you had to watch immediately. I mean, 533 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: I know we watched it on catch up as well. Yeah, 534 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: that's a good point, particularly when it is targeted at 535 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: a millennial audience who watched most of their television programs online, 536 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: and that is the future of television. No one these 537 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: days in that age group that would be interested in 538 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: Roxy show sit down and watch television. We stream everything. 539 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: You only watch it if it's something like The Bachelor, 540 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: and it's timely and you want to see who gets 541 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: kicked out before it's online or everyone's talking about it 542 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: at work. Channel ten, if you're listening, you have three 543 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: people that desperately want to watch more of im roxy, 544 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 1: So please do us a favor and put it on air. Well, 545 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: thank you so much for listening to our latest episode 546 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 1: of Outspoken. We're really excited because on Thursday we're launching 547 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: our new episode segment called Under the Influence, So that 548 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: will come out every Thursday and we'll be talking to 549 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: influential people. Our first one, Amy, I know you're excited 550 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 1: about this. You can let us know who it is. 551 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: Drum roll please, it's Jonathan Sower, who we all know 552 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 1: as probably Australia's best boyfriend of Instagram. Many people may 553 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: know him as Shany Grumman's former boyfriend, but he is 554 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: so much more than that. But he's given us a 555 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: really interesting insight into what life is really like as 556 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 1: an influencer and also some of the troubles that people 557 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 1: face online with trolling. My favorite bit is he does 558 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: fill the beans on that controversial breakup with Shane Grumman 559 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: and gives us a little bit of an insight into 560 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: what his dms look like. So yeah, it's going to 561 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: be a really interesting listen and we all hope you 562 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: get behind it.