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Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda gam Nation.

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Speaker 2: I've become a slave to my Apple Watch, as you know,

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Speaker 2: I just don't want to disappoint it. I like looking

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Speaker 2: down to see how many steps I've done. I'm filming

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Speaker 2: this new TV show where I have to stand up

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Speaker 2: all day, which is killing me. My hips and my

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Speaker 2: feet are really sore. But it doesn't register is enough

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Speaker 2: exercise in my mind? Because my watch doesn't see it

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Speaker 2: as steps. It tells me, does your fit bit do

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Speaker 2: this while you're on air?

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Speaker 1: When you're driving? It says, sterned up. You know, well

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Speaker 1: that's not going to happen.

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Speaker 3: Well, I switched off all the notification things where they

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Speaker 3: nag me, where the fit bit nags me, so that

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Speaker 3: i've I do. I like telemetry being a man. You know,

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Speaker 3: you watch the Baths V eight. You want to see

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Speaker 3: the gey changes and the revs and the oil and

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Speaker 3: the speed all that stuff. So I get to see

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Speaker 3: my heart rate and things like that. So at the moment,

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Speaker 3: my resting heart rate is sixty four beats per minute?

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Speaker 1: Is that good? Because I never know?

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Speaker 3: Well I can get the full stats. Mine's dropped down

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Speaker 3: to like forty eight.

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Speaker 1: I see, I don't know is that good or bad.

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Speaker 3: I don't know whether the doc says it's all right.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we'll see.

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Speaker 2: This is the stuff that we've been told we need

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Speaker 2: to worry about, is how many steps we get a day,

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Speaker 2: et cetera. I get very competitive to the point where

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Speaker 2: I feel like putting my watch onto my dog and say,

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Speaker 2: run around the.

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Speaker 3: Park because I've seen you have an argument with your

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Speaker 3: Apple watch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah I know, I know, I say, stomach, I can't

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Speaker 2: stand up right now, or come on, I've walked further

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Speaker 2: than that, all that kind of stuff. But we've got

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Speaker 2: this thing in our heads about ten thousand steps, which

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Speaker 2: I never achieve.

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Speaker 1: But why the.

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Speaker 2: Ten thousand steps? We were told that ten thousand steps

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Speaker 2: is the number that we really need if we're going

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Speaker 2: to be physically active in our older years and all

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Speaker 2: that kind of stuff to prevent disease. The ten thousand

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Speaker 2: steps has not come from science. I read this yesterday.

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Speaker 2: The ten thousand steps a day was a Japanese promotional

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Speaker 2: tool for a pedometer. They chose ten thousand steps because

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Speaker 2: the Japanese character, So the way that the character is

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Speaker 2: advertised when I say character, the Japanese letter, the Japanese

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Speaker 2: letter for ten thousand steps or for ten thousand looks

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Speaker 2: like someone walking, so they chose ten thousand because they

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Speaker 2: could then therefore use that as their symbol to sell

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Speaker 2: a pedometer.

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Speaker 3: Oh you've givewn me a hand out. Yeah, look at this.

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Speaker 2: Ten thousand steps is an arbitrary number picked up by

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Speaker 2: a Japanese production company to advertise a pedometer.

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Speaker 1: Amazing, isn't it?

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Speaker 2: Because when you're drilled down on the science of it,

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Speaker 2: they found that the Lancet earlier this year suggested seven

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Speaker 2: thousand steps was adequate.

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Speaker 1: Particularly for people age sixty and older.

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Speaker 2: And the benefits for younger adults was probably about nine

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Speaker 2: thousand steps. But there's been some discussion also that ten

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Speaker 2: thousand is so hard to achieve, is that it stops

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Speaker 2: you getting anything. Will you live in a house with

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Speaker 2: a steep driveway and all that sort of stuff? You

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Speaker 2: probably no, I mean you probably do a lot of steps.

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Speaker 3: I do. I do sixteen thousand steps a day, do you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you need a smaller house.

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Speaker 2: This is like when member mister Kellogg, we all believe

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Speaker 2: that breakfast is the most important meal of the day.

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Speaker 2: That's not true. It's no more important than any other meals.

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Speaker 2: But we all believe this thanks to mister Kellogg who

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Speaker 2: made corn flakes. As we know, so initially people had

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Speaker 2: a cooked breakfast, and then when our lifestyles changed and

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Speaker 2: people working offices and not working on the land, they

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Speaker 2: needed something quicker and something more convenient. So he invented

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Speaker 2: corn flakes, and to make sure people ate them every day.

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Speaker 2: He he told people, and his advertising campaign said this

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Speaker 2: that this is the most important meal of the day,

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Speaker 2: which is a myth. Research suggests breakfast is no more

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Speaker 2: important than any other meal. And also nutritionists today do

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Speaker 2: doubt that Kellogg's corn flakes were great nutritional value and

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Speaker 2: gave digestive benefits as he claimed. But all these myths

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Speaker 2: that we think of come from science and from medicine

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Speaker 2: have come from advertising.

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Speaker 3: The shampoo people all over again. When you're shampoo your hair,

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Speaker 3: it says repeat. You don't need to repeat. You don't

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Speaker 3: do it again. So the dishwasher people, they got this thing.

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Speaker 3: At the moment or you put it in there, you

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Speaker 3: don't have to rinse it before it goes in. It'll

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Speaker 3: clean it. It doesn't clean.

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Speaker 4: What happens is because you this didn't clean it, and

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Speaker 4: use another dishwasher tab it's the dishwasher tab people, the

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Speaker 4: hair shampoo people, and the fit bid people are all

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Speaker 4: in curds.

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Speaker 1: The dishwasher.

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Speaker 2: You scrape things off, but you don't rinse because no,

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Speaker 2: you don't rinse because the machine needs.

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Speaker 1: Those bits to get off when they get to you.

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Speaker 2: If something has ever been if something is stuck on

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Speaker 2: a plate or a cup, I don't keep it in

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Speaker 2: the dishwasher because it's burned on. You have to soak

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Speaker 2: it in the sink, so I don't put it in again.

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Speaker 3: I challenge you and your dishwasher people. I'm going to

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Speaker 3: bake a big massaka.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but you scrape, scrape, you don't have to rinse it.

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Speaker 3: But you know I've worked in a commercial kitchen and

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Speaker 3: you have to blast everything. So I challenge you. I'll

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Speaker 3: make a massaka, all right.

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Speaker 2: I challenge you to make an enormous massaka and film

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Speaker 2: you scraping.

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Speaker 1: Don't leave a whole big chunk.

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Speaker 3: And I'll put in with a normal tablet and we'll

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Speaker 3: see what happens. And I'll bet you any money I'll

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Speaker 3: put it through again.

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Speaker 1: Here we go. You're going to give me a headache

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Speaker 1: tablet while we're talking like this,