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Speaker 1: Once again this season, Quantus is proudsby flying Australia's cricketers

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Speaker 1: as they take on the world. Hey, everybody, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Unflavable Podcast, Day five here at the SCG and

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Speaker 1: Australia have sealed the Ashes win for one with a

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Speaker 1: five wicket victory here and we're now sitting in the

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Speaker 1: Bradman stand that to the left of the members here

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Speaker 1: at the SCG. We've just been through the press conferences

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Speaker 1: Steve Smith, Mitchell Stark, Ben Stokes, they've all wrapped up

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Speaker 1: the series and now we're gonna try and do the same.

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Speaker 1: Josh Anafinker here joined by Lewis Cameron. And it was

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Speaker 1: a bit of a tricky chase for Australia. They only

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Speaker 1: needed one hundred and sixty, but it was a bit

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Speaker 1: tough for substages today, wasn't that.

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Speaker 3: Super tough, very nervy, kind of forty run partnership there

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Speaker 4: There was a runout of Manus Labushane.

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Speaker 3: There was some DRS drama earlier with Jake the World

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Speaker 3: that really set Ben's Stokes off, but overall a really

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Speaker 3: nice it was a nice day. I mean it was

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Speaker 3: quired gets the guard of honor from from Stokes who

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Speaker 3: had been enraged not that not that long before, and

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Speaker 3: and looked like who's you know they're going to come

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Speaker 3: to blows with weather or who's seen to be infuriating.

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Speaker 3: But all in all, the asher spirit was there and

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Speaker 3: we believe that the two teams might have a beer.

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Speaker 3: It might even be happening as we as we kind

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Speaker 3: of speak. But yeah, as you mentioned, we've just got

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Speaker 3: a very nice scene.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Steve Smith said that yours have invited England in

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Speaker 3: But well no, the last time it was the invitation

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Speaker 4: But hopefully they can let bygones be go by gones, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, so it was flour one victory overall.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the chase, because Jacob Bethel was out.

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Speaker 3: And I reckon it's worth highlighting we have very high

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Speaker 3: know England for whatever reason, don't you know, and they've

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Speaker 3: been allowed to know. I'm not saying that Ben Stokes

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Speaker 3: that gone, but the standard is a lot lower. And

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Speaker 3: you know it's not for a want of trying with

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Speaker 3: Ben Stokes like he's clearly I think everyone agrees he's

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Speaker 3: the man to take him forward. You know, whether McCullum

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Speaker 3: You know, Stokes said that he has his full support

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Speaker 3: if he gets asked by the ECV like he will

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Speaker 3: one hundredercent back him and said he's a great coach,

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Speaker 3: but ultimately the decision doesn't rest with him.

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Speaker 4: So it's a been open that one.

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Speaker 1: So England's next Test series is against New Zealand at

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Speaker 1: home in June. Australia's next Test series is against Bangladesh,

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Speaker 1: also at home.

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Speaker 2: That's in August.

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Speaker 1: And we had some great crowds here this week, didn't

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Speaker 1: We Twenty five thousand here today which meant two hundred

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Speaker 1: and eleven thousand for the match, which is an SCG record,

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Speaker 1: and over eight hundred and fifty thousand spectators for the series.

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Speaker 2: Great turnout from Yossie fans.

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Speaker 1: The pink Test seats almost got to that mark of

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Speaker 1: four hundred and eighty virtual sorry, four hundred and eighty

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Speaker 1: thousand virtual pink seats sold. But there is still plenty

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Speaker 1: of time to buy your pink seed if you haven't

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Speaker 1: done that already, lou, pink test dot com is the

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Speaker 1: place to go and buy that.

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Speaker 3: My mum's already done it. She's got four for my

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Speaker 3: little one, her, my partner and mum. So nice perhaps

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Speaker 3: since you've got my sister as well if you haven't,

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Speaker 3: mum get made as well.

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Speaker 1: Please Yeah, so pink test dot com, dota you get

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Speaker 1: your virtual pink seat and help out a really good cause.

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Speaker 3: Lou.

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Speaker 1: Let's look ahead now to Australia's next assignments. There's a

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Speaker 1: Teachiny World Cup on the horizon. There's those tests in August,

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Speaker 1: so a bit of a gap there, six or seven

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Speaker 1: months until the next test assignment.

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Speaker 2: And also they'll have the IPL. I guess they're playing

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Speaker 2: as well, a few of them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, while Ben Stokes is talking about having tough

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Speaker 3: conversations with some of his under fault with some of

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Speaker 3: his underperforming teammates as through, these conversations aren't so tough.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the only tough element is, you know, probably

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Speaker 3: McDonald and cummins saying Mitch Stark, hey, we're really like

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Speaker 3: you to get to twenty twenty seven. Hey, Steve Smith,

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Speaker 3: we'd really like you to get the twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: That'd help us a lot. It's basically how long can

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Speaker 3: the careers of these veterans go on for because we're

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Speaker 3: not seeing a whole lot of drop off, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean Quadra was probably the one over the last

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Speaker 3: eighteen months that we saw some regression. There were probably

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Speaker 3: those question marks over Nathan Lyne. Well, he bought beautifully

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Speaker 3: in Adelaide. Yes he's done his hamstring and it's probably

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Speaker 3: more of a for all of them. It's a physical concern.

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Speaker 3: Can Hazelwood, can Stark? Can these guys keep backing up

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Speaker 3: series after series into their late thirties. For Steve Smith,

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Speaker 3: I guess it's a case of wanting to do it,

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Speaker 3: like he basically said in his press conference just now,

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Speaker 3: like if I'll wake up, I might wake up one

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Speaker 3: day and just want to stop. You know, it's hard

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Speaker 3: to see that for someone who is so invested in

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Speaker 3: the game and who seems to have cricketers at the

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Speaker 3: at the center of his life, how they manage him

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Speaker 3: will be an interesting Like he lives in a different

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Speaker 3: country now essentially, and you know, I think it's a

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Speaker 3: good move to get the most out of a guy

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Speaker 3: in the in the twilight of his career. So that's

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Speaker 3: where things stand for Australia, I suppose. From you know,

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Speaker 3: it's an interesting one. How they're bowling attack functions with

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Speaker 3: you know, come and Stark, Caserwood, like if you can

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Speaker 3: even if you can keep them going on, like you're

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Speaker 3: going to need your nieces, your bowlins, your dogget's, rich

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Speaker 3: Juie Richardson's, You're going to need them a lot more.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, have have Nissa and Bowlin shown a new

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Speaker 3: way forward for you know, your likes of Fergus O'Neil,

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Speaker 3: your Xavier Bartlets, these kind of guys, because.

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Speaker 4: You know, they those show.

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Speaker 3: Those guys showed that if you can really accurate one

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Speaker 3: twenty five one hundred and thirty, they're probably not as

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Speaker 3: slow as one twenty five, but you know, around that

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Speaker 3: one thirty mark accurate stuff and never missed, you can

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Speaker 3: be a handful in Test cricket. And I'd expect some

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Speaker 3: of those bowlers to maybe push for spots in the

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Speaker 3: next few years. If we can't get guys like Bidmund Fidler,

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Speaker 3: Joy Richardson, you know, if there's going to be a

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Speaker 3: question mark over there, Duril durability, Yeah, we might start

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Speaker 3: looking at some different type bowlers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And it's probably a good wrap for the domestic scene

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Speaker 1: as well, because even though Boland was into his thirties

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Speaker 1: when he debuted Niece as well into his thirties, and

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Speaker 1: so they're not necessarily webs Webster as well, they're not

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Speaker 1: necessarily looking to the next generation. They're looking for the

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Speaker 1: best players to win the next Test match, which leads

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Speaker 1: me to my next point about potentially when these greats

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Speaker 1: of the game do you want to retire? Do they

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Speaker 1: look to maybe make sure that it's staggered these retirements

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Speaker 1: so that there's not a big gap like we saw

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Speaker 1: at the end of the two thousand and six seven

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Speaker 1: Extra Series, which left Australia, you know, reeling for a

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Speaker 1: few years in the aftermath.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's entirely depend You can't keep, you can't

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Speaker 3: carry these guys if they're not performing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, at the moment they are, and they have been

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Speaker 4: for the last four or five six years.

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Speaker 3: I've kind of been thinking the last couple of years,

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Speaker 3: it's like, and I'm one hundred percent sure you know,

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Speaker 3: Andrew McDonald will be feeling the same. They'd be looking

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Speaker 3: at these guys and going like, not many fast bowlers

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Speaker 3: are any good basically past thirty four, thirty five, thirty six.

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Speaker 3: Well they basically three in this Test match, Nissa, Bowl

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Speaker 3: and Stark. I think they're all over thirty five. That's

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Speaker 3: that's incredible really, So you know, long mate last for

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Speaker 3: Australia and let's see, let's see what they can do

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Speaker 3: in the next few years.

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Speaker 1: A great series as well for Alex Carey twenty eight

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Speaker 1: dismissals one short of the all time Test record in

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Speaker 1: a series. That was Brad Hadden who took twenty nine

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Speaker 1: in the twenty thirteen that's just series. But I don't

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Speaker 1: think I hadn't had to stand up to the stumps

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Speaker 1: as much so the fast ballers as carried in this series.

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Speaker 2: It was just unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: And Steve Smith called his performance this series incredibly and

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Speaker 1: the best keeping display that he's seen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent agree was Brad Hadden's in twenty

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Speaker 3: thirteen or twenty thirteen forty Now it was the one

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Speaker 3: England won in England.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so what that would have been?

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Speaker 3: Johnson and your bollingers and probably the house might have

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Speaker 3: made that one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll have to double check that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. So incredible performance. Yeah, maybe the making

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Speaker 3: of his career. And it's been a slow build for him.

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Speaker 3: It looked a period there where Josh Ingviss was nipping

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Speaker 3: at his heels, but his performances over the last twenty

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Speaker 3: four months have been superb.

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Speaker 1: All right, Lou, that's a wrap from the SCG Day five.

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Speaker 1: Here Australia win by five wickets and they win the

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Speaker 1: series four to one. Comprehensive victory across the board from Australia.

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Speaker 1: It's been great fun bringing you the Unplayable podcast after

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Speaker 1: every day of the Ashes series so far. Thank you

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Speaker 1: to Quantas for sponsoring the podcast, and we'll catch up

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Speaker 1: with you next time. We'll catch up with you. Not

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Speaker 1: quite sure when it will be, but we'll have coverage

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Speaker 1: of the T twenty World Cup of course, and whatever

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Speaker 1: else next

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