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Speaker 1: Now joining me on the line right now to tell

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Speaker 1: us a bit more about what's going on out in

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Speaker 1: the rural area and some concerning behavior that's been seen

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Speaker 1: out in the rural area. Is Kesier Puic, the independent

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Speaker 1: member for Goida. Good morning, Kezier, morning, Katie.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure if it's a good morning given rule there,

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Speaker 2: but at least it's morning and that's a bonus.

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Speaker 1: Well, Kesier, tell us exactly what has happened, because I

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Speaker 1: saw you post on social media there's a property on

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Speaker 1: gull Their Road and people outside with a massive knife.

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Speaker 2: That's correct, Katie, and I stakenly said it was last night,

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Speaker 2: but it was the night before, so for the people

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Speaker 2: who are listening from the rule area. But it's indicative

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Speaker 2: of a bigger problem. It could have been last night.

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Speaker 2: It's just that we haven't heard about it. What happened

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Speaker 2: not before is between two thirty in the morning about

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Speaker 2: five o'clock these two in the photo on my social media,

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Speaker 2: possibly others. What are going down Gunmere Road, the road

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Speaker 2: and Levy Roads and going into properties trying to check

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Speaker 2: on sheds, looking into cars, doors are open. If they

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Speaker 2: took anything, I haven't heard. But the more serious part

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Speaker 2: of it is they one of them was carrying a

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Speaker 2: knife out, so that's nothing. There's nothing to suggest that

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Speaker 2: the other low life skim bag didn't have some kind

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Speaker 2: of weapon on him as well. They were well clad,

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Speaker 2: in other words, they had hoods on. I couldn't see

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Speaker 2: in the photos if they have gloves, but they are

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Speaker 2: clearly organized. Now this matter has been reported to the police,

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Speaker 2: and the police are well and truly onto it. I'm

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Speaker 2: hoping that they can be caught sooner than later because

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Speaker 2: this is just not acceenuble. The photos of that on

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Speaker 2: my media from this home and gun their road is

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Speaker 2: a family. They have two young teenagers and I couldn't

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Speaker 2: send the video, couldn't put the video on. They've seen

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Speaker 2: checking the doors. They're checking the doors of the bedrooms

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Speaker 2: of the children. Now imagine if child or adult woke

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Speaker 2: up these people in their bedroom with a knife. I mean,

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Speaker 2: apart from the fact that you know, you'd just be

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Speaker 2: so shocked. Anything could have happened, you know, anything. And

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Speaker 2: if you're carrying a weapon, I always maintain you intend

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Speaker 2: to use it. If you're carrying a gun, you intend

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Speaker 2: to use it. You're carrying a knife, you intend to

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Speaker 2: use a Jemmy bar broken bottle. You're carrying it because

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Speaker 2: you intend to use it for whatever reason, usually for harm.

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Speaker 2: So this is a serious situation that's confronting people in

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Speaker 2: the Ruin. I know elsewhere there's been a problem else casin,

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Speaker 2: but Rule Air we I like to think we're a

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Speaker 2: little bit insulated for lots of different reasons. And so

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Speaker 2: I've written to the minister this morning first up, after

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Speaker 2: I got this information, to ask for more patrols urgently

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Speaker 2: into the Rule Air such that we can apprehend these two,

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Speaker 2: if not more, criminals, because that's what they are. They're criminals.

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Speaker 2: They're carrying a sharp long knife in public, yeshing to

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Speaker 2: do something with.

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Speaker 3: It tasier do you know?

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Speaker 1: I mean, not that it makes it any better, But

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Speaker 1: do you know if these criminals have been able to

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Speaker 1: get into any of the homes of those out in

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Speaker 2: At this point, I don't know that. I do know

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Speaker 2: they did open cars, and yes they were into cars

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Speaker 2: and maybe took things out of cars that are in cars.

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Speaker 2: Rural people do tend to have more dogs and larger

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Speaker 2: dogs in town people. I believe perhaps they were scared

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Speaker 2: of and also sense the lights and things of that nature.

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Speaker 2: But this property in question, the sense of light came

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Speaker 2: on for the garage area, they didn't even flinch. They

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Speaker 2: And obviously knowing they'd be CCTV footage, they just couldn't

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Speaker 2: care in their thinking there were no consequences one for

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Speaker 2: doing what they're doing, carrying an offensive and a nasty

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Speaker 2: weapon too that they're being viewed and filmed on footage.

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Speaker 2: They just don't care. Because I think I heard on

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Speaker 2: some news stories were caught somewhere and they both had

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Speaker 1: You know, I've read a message out about that just

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Speaker 3: That's it, you know, that's the concern people have got keasier.

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Speaker 2: Well it is because it's not. It should be, And

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Speaker 2: I know the government's talking about changing some more bits

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Speaker 2: of the bail looks and adding bits to offensive and

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Speaker 2: prohibitive weapons. Any weapon, any item that's been used as

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Speaker 2: a weapon should be a presumption against bail, whether it's

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Speaker 2: a broken bottle, a tomahawk, a machete, a lumper wood.

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Speaker 2: If you've used something to cause harm to someone else

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Speaker 2: and do cause harm, no bail, Yeah, the jails get fuller. Well,

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Speaker 2: tough pities, so jails get fuller, you know, and it's

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Speaker 2: an uncomfortable life, which it should be, so you don't

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Speaker 2: Chief Minister, it's not good enough.

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Speaker 1: Well and Keizia, no doubt. We'll talk more about that

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Speaker 1: tomorrow during the week. That was as well after the

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Speaker 1: Chief Ministry, given that bit of a time frame earlier

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Speaker 1: in the week. But it sounds like it's also a

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Speaker 1: extra care if you've got people out there loitering around

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Speaker 1: trying to get in and they're armed with knives.

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Speaker 2: That's correct, Katy. This happened about two years ago. There

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Speaker 2: was a group of people who were going around the

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Speaker 2: Best Creek, I guess because it's the closest to sort

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Speaker 2: of you know, pool linga kind of area, and they

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Speaker 2: did leave knives around in driveways where they are looking

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Speaker 2: to steal stuff out of cars, and you know, weever

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Speaker 2: sheds or whatever. So yes, so people listening, do lock

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Speaker 2: your house and take the keys out of your car,

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Speaker 2: and make sure if you've got dogs and you hear

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Speaker 2: any kind of noise, let them out, let them out

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Speaker 2: and scare them off, and turn on your lights on.

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Speaker 2: That's what I've said, turn all your outside lights on

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Speaker 2: and then straight away ring the police, ring the police, everyone,

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Speaker 2: because we have to get the data to show this

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Speaker 2: government that there is a serious problem in our town.

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Speaker 2: Unless you call the police, we won't get the data.

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Speaker 2: So people could do that, Ring the police, ring triple zero.

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Speaker 2: You are scared there's an intruder with a knife, for example.

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Speaker 1: Yep, well this is the thing and on keys here.

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Speaker 1: It's got to be reported to the police. They need

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Speaker 1: where they need to send their resources. But also it

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Speaker 1: has to be included in those crime statistics.

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Speaker 3: And we've got to see some change here.

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Speaker 1: We you know, the last thing that we want is

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Speaker 2: That is frightening, Katie, and I know people have talked

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Speaker 2: about this. They did change the laws in England and

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Speaker 2: also Scotland and probably elsewhere where carrying a knife in

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Speaker 2: public was an offense. Now people raise the issue about

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Speaker 2: pocket knives and things about nature which are used in

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Speaker 2: you know, bush people and come to people of parstal people.

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Speaker 2: You can get exemptions, of course, you can get exemptions

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Speaker 2: to any law. So I think the government, I think

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Speaker 2: we've talked about this previously, the government seriously needs to

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Speaker 2: look at changing whichever legislation it is to have the

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Speaker 2: carrying of a weapon such as a knife or a

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Speaker 2: shitty in public an offense and a serious offense, not

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Speaker 2: just that, oh you're a naughty person, you shouldn't have

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Speaker 2: had that. A serious offense, punishable byte, I don't know what. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you've got to stop. There got to be some strong

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Speaker 2: laws and strong penalties for these for these people who

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Speaker 2: are just running rampant across our town and our rural area.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is the thing. And Kes, look, I think

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Speaker 1: you know they's you. You're potentially putting yourself at risk

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Speaker 1: out in the rural area too, because I know people

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Speaker 1: have got bloody big dogs out there.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's other things we've got in the rural are Katie,

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Speaker 2: which I won't go into, but i'll tell you what.

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Speaker 2: People come onto my bloody properly with my parents and

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Speaker 2: my mum and my other sisters. I said, they'll get

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Speaker 2: what's coming for them, that's for sure. And I'm not

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Speaker 3: Definitely not.

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Speaker 2: But you come, you come and looking to harm my family.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to go out and bloody stop you. That's

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Speaker 2: all I'm going to say, Katie. And I think people

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Speaker 2: should be very vigilant and make sure you just lock

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, well, Kesier Puric, We'll see you tomorrow morning

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Speaker 1: for the week that was.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, thanks very much. Good on you, Keasier, and.

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Speaker 1: Good to catch up with Keesy Epuric there to find

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Speaker 1: out exactly what is going on in the rural area.

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Speaker 1: I know that plenty of you listen out in the

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Speaker 1: got to make sure that we're safe, no matter where

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Speaker 1: we live, no matter what.

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Speaker 3: Part of the territory we live.

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Speaker 1: But absolutely mortifying to see that there are people getting

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Speaker 1: And yeah, it's like the worrying part here is the

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Speaker 1: fact that people are armed with weapons. You know, we're

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Speaker 1: not talking about butter knives, but even if we are,

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Speaker 1: they can cause serious harm. We need to make sure

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Speaker 1: that there is some really serious change when it comes to,

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Speaker 1: you know, this issue that we've got with knives being

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Speaker 3: I know, to so many of you it is just

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Speaker 3: not good enough now.

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Speaker 1: Greg in Parapi's message through and said, Kezi Epuric is

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Speaker 1: a legend.

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Speaker 3: I wish she was my sister.

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Speaker 1: I met her niece actually on Friday night and she

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Speaker 1: was a legend as well. So we're going to take

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Speaker 1: a bit of a break coming your way very shortly.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually going to be speaking to Melanderie McCarthy

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Speaker 3: Lyndon Jonesie Jones, and Amanda Lave