1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: It is time for the week that was, and joining 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,199 Speaker 1: me in the studio. They've all sort of rearranged themselves 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: this morning. I've got Matt Cunningham from Sky News, Good morning, 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: sitting there in the in the Tory corner we like 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: to call it. And we've got Nicole Madison, the Deputy 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: Chief Minister, Good morning to you. 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 2: Good morning, Katie, Good morning everyone. 8 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: And we've got Keesy A Purick, Good morning to you, Kezy, 9 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: and the Member. 10 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 3: For Goider Morning morning, bush people. 11 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: And we've also got Maurray Clare Boothby, Good morning to you, Murray. 12 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 3: Claire from the COLP. 13 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 4: Good morning everybody. 14 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: Wonderful to have you all in the studio. And there 15 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: is so much happening this morning. In that breaking news, 16 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: of course, from overnight, we know that in battled British 17 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: Prime Minister Liz Truss has resigned. Now she dramatically announced 18 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: that she'd stepped down as the Prime minister after just 19 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: forty four days in office. 20 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 3: Is that the shortest standing prime minister? 21 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 5: Apparently not. 22 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 2: Apparently it's the second shortest. I don't know, but apparently 23 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: she's going to get a pinch now of over one 24 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: hundred pair year on hundred and fifty. 25 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 5: Or something like that. 26 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 2: Really for forty four days, unbelievable. I couldn't get over. 27 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, surely she was given a raft of Treasury 28 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 2: advice before before going forward with her economic policys. It's 29 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 2: just that's been a pretty wild time, that the passing 30 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: of her majesty and then then yeah, it was Yes, 31 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 2: it's been wild. 32 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 3: It has been unbelievable to watch. 33 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: And Kisi, you were saying to me or Fair that 34 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: there was a I believe there was a meme you 35 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: know what will last longer, Lez Trusaura, let us head, let. 36 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 6: Us head, And the answer was I let us head. 37 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 6: I mean there's lots of other memes. 38 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 2: You know. 39 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 6: Some would say they're been unkind, and they probably are, 40 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 6: but I've just watched it and it's just extraordinary how 41 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 6: it's just the I'm sure she's a very fine person 42 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 6: and a good member of Parliament, but as Nicole said, 43 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 6: she wouldn't have gone out there on her own. She 44 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 6: would have had a mountain of information kind of briefings. 45 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: Territory departments don't hold back on advice. There is one 46 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: department that will take its Treasury department. 47 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 5: Advice. 48 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 3: I'm better check the book is well, this is the 49 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 3: thing and you need that sound advice. 50 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: Now, let's move on to something that has been a 51 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: huge issue around the Northern Territory for quite some time. 52 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: And it feels as though we've spoken about it on 53 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: so many occasions here on the week that was. But 54 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: I know that we've got a lot of listeners in 55 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: Alice Springs and a lot of them listening this morning, 56 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: and we know that earlier in the week the Territory 57 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: government said that through the Social Order Response Team, they 58 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: are going to be driving a coordinated approach across all 59 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: sectors to improve social order throughout Alice Springs. It follows 60 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: on from some really desperate calls, I've got to say, 61 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: from Tourism Central Australia and also from you know, from 62 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: members of the public everybody in Alice Springs, following on 63 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: from what has been a really tough time for them. 64 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: You know, they've called it a crime crisis. Some of 65 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: the really strong words that we've heard over the last 66 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: few weeks have even been that the Northern Territory Government 67 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: does not have control of the streets of Alice Springs. 68 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: I think it's sort of you know, culminated then on Tuesday, 69 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: I'd spoken on the show to the chair of Tourism 70 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: Central Australia, Karl Biazac, who had been punched in the 71 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: face at ten past eight in the morning on Monday morning. 72 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 3: At the Coles Complex. It's been a debarcle. 73 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: It's been terrible for the people of Alice Springs and 74 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: the government has now come out of course with that plan. 75 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: Does it go far enough? 76 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: Well, some saying that it needs to go further, the 77 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: likes of Matt Patterson coming out with some other ideas, 78 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: as did Tourism Central Australia saying that they actually need 79 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: boots on the ground, they need maybe that security team 80 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: that have the dogs. 81 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 3: I mean, what did you make well? 82 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: Firstly, mat O a lot of people asking why this 83 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: wasn't implemented sooner. 84 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: So this has got not just government at the table. 85 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 2: It's actually important that we've got counsel at the table. 86 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: And I want to applaud Mayor Matt Patterson. Working with 87 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: the previous council to be frank and Ala Springs was 88 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 2: very difficult. Mayor Matt Patterson has shown great leadership. He 89 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 2: wants to be part of the solutions and his bought 90 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: Counsel to the table, so we've got them there. We've 91 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 2: got Lura Tippa at the table, Tourism Central Australia, the 92 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 2: Chamber of Commerce. Previously it was coming onto the shoulders 93 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 2: of government, but it's so much broader the response that 94 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 2: is needed than just government, so it's great to have 95 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 2: everybody at the table. We have got some good strong 96 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 2: KPIs there as well as the government resources. I mean 97 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 2: we have put a lot of extra resources into Alis. 98 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: We've made sure that we've got more police there, more 99 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 2: support and territory families, but we do need the other 100 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 2: organizations all shoulders to the will and this is about 101 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: listening to them what the needs are on the ground. 102 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: There is an immediate response that's happening on the ground, 103 00:04:58,320 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 2: but this. 104 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: Is about astonishing Yesterday is the Minister for Police, Kate 105 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,679 Speaker 1: Warden had said on the show that there's like twenty 106 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,559 Speaker 1: different patrol groups that are operating currently and you think 107 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: what's going on, Katie. 108 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 2: Is about bringing them all together in a more coordinated way. 109 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: And this is what's going to help Katie. 110 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 6: This is not the first time there's been a lack 111 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 6: of coordination between government and government agencies and in Goos 112 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 6: when I sat on the Youth Select Committee for Youth 113 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 6: Suicide and we went to our springs, there was something 114 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 6: like twenty organizations dealing with youth issues, between the churches, 115 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 6: the Aboriginal groups, the angler cares, anti government agencies, and 116 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 6: half of them didn't know the other half were doing 117 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 6: the same thing that they were doing. They're all competing 118 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 6: for funding, they're all competing for resources. So there's just 119 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 6: got to be better control and better management and coordination 120 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 6: between all these different groups private sector as well as 121 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 6: government sector and in Goos to deliver the resources and 122 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 6: the outcomes or the programs that clearly that town needs. 123 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 6: So if this sort thing is going to do that, 124 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 6: well that's good because you can't just have these things 125 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 6: popping up everywhere because they just bread the money too. 126 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 2: Things. 127 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 7: Remember that there was two or three years ago there 128 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 7: was a Productivity Commission reporting to the very same thing 129 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 7: when it came to child protection services across the territory 130 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,679 Speaker 7: and found that there were like five hundred different NGOs 131 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 7: operating in that space and no coordination whatsoever. 132 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 5: So in some. 133 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 7: Communities you had three groups delivering a service and in 134 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 7: the other communities you had none. So I think it's 135 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 7: good that they're going to put the oversight in. You've 136 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 7: just got to make sure that that oversight. 137 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: Works, and there's got to be KPIs, Like surely there 138 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: needs to be KPIs to make sure that they're actually 139 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: if you've got groups that aren't working the way that 140 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: they're supposed to be and they're receiving government funding, well 141 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: why do they keep getting it? 142 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 2: And can you see in the response that there is 143 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 2: there is there are performance measures there about how what 144 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 2: we're calling is the sort is going to be working 145 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 2: together in Alice Springs. 146 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 3: So it's good. 147 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: We've got government, we've got non government, we've got counsel, 148 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: we've got toos everybody at the time table holding each 149 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: other to account, Katie. 150 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 8: What worries me about this new sort as they're calling 151 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 8: it is that it's almost like it's six years too late, 152 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 8: Like we have been talking about this, the community has 153 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 8: been calling out for such a long time. All of 154 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 8: our leaders are as well, and in Alice Springs we 155 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 8: have all of those community leaders at the table, which 156 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 8: is what the Minister Warden described, and they're all sharing 157 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 8: the problems that they have and trying to cont with solutions. 158 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 8: I mean, I just want to know where where's the 159 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 8: government six years ago when this was a problem then, 160 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 8: and we continue to talk about this over and over. 161 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 8: I mean, all it is is talk. And the other 162 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 8: point to this is there is no point having those 163 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 8: meetings if government bring in legislation that's going to actually 164 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 8: water down the laws that the police have to operate. 165 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 8: We've already seen the watering down of the breach of 166 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 8: bail laws. We've seen the two kilometer drinking rule taken 167 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 8: away completely, and then we've got new legislation which has 168 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 8: come up now where you're going to reduce the age 169 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 8: of criminal responsibility, which takes a whole group of offenders 170 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 8: out of the mix all together, and of course reducing 171 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 8: plishing I should say, mandatry sentencing. So you've got the 172 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 8: rights of the offenders in legislation being put first and 173 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 8: over and above the rights are victims. So all the 174 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 8: talk in the world is not going to change the 175 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 8: way that legislation operates. 176 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 2: Just need to pick up there on MCB there because 177 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: I mean we've just heard. 178 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 4: Very affectionate I like it. 179 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: It needs. 180 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 3: MTV. 181 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: The two kilometer law is not abolished. You people are 182 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 2: doing the wrong thing within two kilometers they can't. 183 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: And but because it's being dealt with as a health 184 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: issue rather than it being a criminal issue, so people 185 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: can just drink down the street. 186 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 8: And there are people drinking down the street in groups 187 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 8: every week. 188 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 3: Let's make this. 189 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: Really really clear, actually this two kilometer rule, because it's 190 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: something that gets raised all the time with us on air. 191 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: We've obviously got the opposition calling for it to be reinstated. 192 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 1: We've got the government saying that it's already in place. 193 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: So can I just ask really blunt, like, if it's 194 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: in place, why have we still got people drinking within 195 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: two kilometers of bond shop? 196 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 3: Well, because it'd so. 197 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 2: Many can be enforced. So you know, again it has 198 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 2: not been abolished. It can be put in place. If 199 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 2: you're drinking us in kilometers within a licensed venue, you 200 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 2: should not be drinking. 201 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: Responsibility would it be then to stop people from drinking 202 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: in the street the police? 203 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 2: We have police that go out there, they tip out 204 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 2: and if people are doing the wrong thing, they will 205 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: arrest them as well. 206 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 8: So but if they're drinking, only if they're doing the 207 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 8: wrong thing right, so they can still drink there. 208 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 2: No, I just said they take you down, they tip out. 209 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: So I reckon people are going to be when they're 210 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: hearing this because there is so like, there's so many 211 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: instances where you walk through them all or you walk 212 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: through you know, the city, and there is people publicly drinking. 213 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 3: Honestly, we're publicly when he got to the tools. 214 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: And as a person literally had you know, I was 215 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: drinking sitting down out neath the takeaway shop, does. 216 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 2: That and like, but this is not a new issue. 217 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 2: We've always had challenges with problem public drinking here in 218 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 2: the Northern Territory. Are drinking two kilometers within these venues. 219 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 2: They can absolutely go and tip out. They can arrest 220 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 2: if they are playing up. 221 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 1: And if we just reached the point where we sort 222 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: of go, oh, well they're doing it, let them keep going. 223 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 2: No, they do go, they do tip out, they do 224 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 2: arrest that. 225 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 3: I agree with Nicole. 226 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 6: They do do it when they are there to see 227 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 6: the people doing what they're doing when they shouldn't be 228 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 6: doing it. But there's groups of people that are around 229 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 6: the back of Bunnings now. Some are from man and Grida, 230 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 6: some are from Rowan Pelly because occasion we chat to 231 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 6: them and whatever, and they are drinking within two kilometers 232 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 6: of a license outlet. But I mean they're not causing 233 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 6: any trouble. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't, but they 234 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 6: are definitely within two point five kilometers of that takeaway 235 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 6: bottle shop near Bunnings. And that's just one isolated situation 236 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 6: that I know. I occasionally see people not in the 237 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 6: mall in Smith Street near Spilett House. They hang out 238 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 6: there sometimes just a little bit of grass out the 239 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 6: front and they've got alcoholic beverages and they're sitting there 240 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 6: and drinking. And that's two kilometers or two and a 241 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 6: half from the Woolies complex, So it is happening. I 242 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 6: just think there's a bit of they're not actually doing 243 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 6: any harm, they're not fighting. Sometimes they do, and so 244 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 6: they just get left alone. 245 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: So if they then, if the police do see somebody 246 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: that's drinking publicly, are they able to get their details, 247 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: see if they're on the bdr that kind of thing 248 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: as well. 249 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: They will go, they can engage, they can go talk 250 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 2: to people. If they need to go check details, they'll 251 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 2: check details like please have a raft of different powers. 252 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: All right, Look, let's step back on track, because that 253 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: is obviously another issue that we all talk about very often. 254 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: But just going back to the situation in Alice Springs, 255 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: I know that one of the big things that has 256 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: been raised with us, both by the mayor, Matt Patterson 257 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: and also by Tourism Central Australia is, you know what's 258 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: been announced by the sort. Everybody is really hopeful that 259 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: this works. They're all saying that the hope that this 260 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: is a step in the right direction, but what they 261 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: need is immediate action right now. So they need either 262 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: security patrolling the streets right now, or we need to 263 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: be in a situation. I know Matt Patterson was on 264 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: the show yesterday talking about the potential for children who 265 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: aren't safe, aren't in safe situations, if they're out on 266 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: the streets late at night, to be taken somewhere where 267 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: they can have a safe place to sleep, have something 268 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: to eat, and he'd spoken about ur Ara College, which 269 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: is one of the colleges just on the outskirts of town. Now, 270 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: my understanding is that the Urara College principle has spoken 271 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 1: to the NT News and said that that's not viable. 272 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: But is there another option, because what's going on right 273 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: now we're hearing it from Alice Springs is totally. 274 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 3: It's totally unacceptable, Katie. 275 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 6: What happened to the Youth's Center or the youth drop 276 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 6: in center or that kind of concept that was in 277 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 6: Alice Springs and that's where they used to take them 278 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 6: where they could have a sleep or a bit of 279 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 6: a feed, or play pool or table tennis or whatever. 280 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: There was a trial there with a few summers ago 281 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 2: and where we did have that available there. They did 282 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 2: review it, they did find it actually brought some extra 283 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 2: antisocial behavior around that particular spot, so that was reviewed. 284 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 2: This is what the sort's all about. It's about bringing 285 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 2: those voices to the table and looking at what other 286 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 2: solutions can be put in place to support the issues 287 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: in Alice Springs. We do have Salt Bush in Ala Springs, 288 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 2: but clearly we are listening and making sure that we 289 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 2: do take action on what the SORT comes to the 290 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 2: table with. 291 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: And so yesterday the police Minister had basically said that 292 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: she didn't want nozzle dogs walking the streets of Alice, 293 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: but why is it good for Caroma. 294 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 6: Good enough for Corona and Rack, but not good enough 295 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 6: for our springs. 296 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: And again we are listening, and you know, we're listening 297 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 2: to the ideas of the sort and we'll continue that corrupt. 298 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: So if the government is listening right now, what the 299 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 1: mayor is saying and also what tourism Centralist Australia are 300 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: saying is that they want additional resources right now, is 301 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: the government hearing that and are their plans in play 302 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: to do something from well, immediately. 303 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 2: You're absolutely hearing it loud and clear. We've got our 304 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 2: police operations with their patrols. It's getting coordinated with additional 305 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: patrols from for example, the work that we've got our 306 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 2: euro is doing and truancy officers doing and so far. 307 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 2: Also we also have security patrols that are coordinated. In 308 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 2: Alice Springs, we've got the council rangers, which is really 309 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 2: important to have them at the table. Like I said, 310 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 2: I applaud me and bat Patterson because it's good to 311 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: have a council that wants to work with government. 312 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: So any plans for an additional spot for kids to 313 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: be taken it because surely it's a it's a child 314 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: protection issue. 315 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 7: This is the thing and when you've got kids, it's 316 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 7: confronting when you see it in Alice Springs and when 317 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 7: you've got kids of that age, you're walking around at 318 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 7: one o'clock in the morning and they're you know, eight, nine, 319 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 7: ten years old. I mean, the whole argument about the 320 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 7: age of criminal responsibility is kind of neither here nor 321 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 7: they're in that situation, I reckon, Because if a kid 322 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 7: is ten and eleven is walking around the streets, you know, 323 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 7: committing crimes, you know, there's surely there is a child 324 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 7: protection issue there. Surely there is an issue with that 325 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 7: child's parents and whether they are capable and properly looking 326 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 7: after that child. And that's where the intervention needs to 327 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 7: be because once that kid's eleven and twelve, it's probably 328 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 7: too late, you know, like the you know, they're on 329 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 7: that track and they'll end up in jail. You need 330 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 7: an intervene when the kids. 331 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 3: But that's essentially what matt Patterson's saying, isn't. 332 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 2: Mattie's spot on? There is there is a line of 333 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 2: where does child protections step in? Like, none of us 334 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 2: here can understand why any parent could let their child 335 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 2: out at those hours of nights, but looking at additional 336 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 2: safe spaces as well is a very active conversation right now. 337 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 8: It's also why the cop has been saying for a 338 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 8: long time that we need to move youth justice out 339 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 8: of territory families like the correction that was so terribly 340 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 8: last time. The correction disaster is really a mission. And 341 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 8: if the child, if the child isn't and the family 342 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 8: of that child isn't being worked with with territory families 343 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 8: because they're so busy working on the youth justice side, 344 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 8: then there's it's failing. And we can't just keep going 345 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 8: back to the same old, same old. We have to 346 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 8: look at new solutions. 347 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 2: That's what you're trying to do. You're trying to go 348 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 2: back to the same old, same old that resulted in 349 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 2: a real commission. 350 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: Well, look, I do want to just touch on as well. 351 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: Obviously we've been speaking a lot about Alice Springs, and 352 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks we have talked a 353 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: lot about Alice Springs, but I do want to just 354 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: speak about the fact that we know up here in 355 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: the top end as well, we've seen some pretty horrendous incidents. 356 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 3: And I'll tell you what. 357 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: On Monday or Tuesday, I think it was this week, 358 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: I had spoken to this young fella, Tim. 359 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 3: Who'd had he'd had his. 360 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: Bridon Joy's land Cruiser stolen from out at cdu I 361 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: believe he's the second year apprentice, you know, out doing 362 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: his studies and had his vehicle stolen. So not only 363 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: was it stolen from out there, it was then allegedly 364 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: used in that ram ray at Berry Springs Tavern, which 365 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: we spoke to Ian Sloan on the show about last week, 366 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: and that was an emotional and pretty sad discussion to have. 367 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 3: So not only was it stolen and allegedly. 368 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: Used in that ram ray, it was then also stolen 369 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: from the compound out in what air the police compound. 370 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: It was pinched from there again and rammed through the 371 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: police compound gate, causing signific property damage. Now there have 372 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: indeed been a number of people arrested following on from 373 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: that incident. But it just, you know, it's just unbelievable. 374 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: You think, imagine being a second year apprentice, he probably earned. 375 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 6: Law and he probably lost some tools out of that 376 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 6: car too, or personal possessions through his trade. But the 377 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 6: fact that these and they were males because you could 378 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 6: see it on the video breaking into as anything. Yeah, 379 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 6: and they had the audacity to go into the police complex, 380 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,239 Speaker 6: climbo the fence presumably hot while the car again and 381 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 6: smash it out, So to me, it's clear that they 382 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 6: are off on another rampage somewhere and they have been arrested, 383 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 6: and I'm pretty sure I read that they've been held 384 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 6: in custody and that the test will be what charges 385 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 6: they you know, are levied at them, and whether they 386 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 6: do any time or what punishment they received. But clearly, 387 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 6: and this has happened time and time again, not just 388 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 6: here and Dawn, but elsewhere in the territory, there is 389 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 6: blatant disregard and respect for other people's property and for 390 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 6: the law. You know, they don't even worry about covering 391 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 6: their heads anymore, they just know that. 392 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 3: There's some strong language from the police as well. 393 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: Detective Seeing is Sergeant Mark Bland, who has been a 394 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: police officer for an awfully long time, a very highly 395 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 1: respected one. 396 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 3: Yeah run strident. 397 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: He'd said this group's caused distress to local business owners 398 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: and it's simply not fair that the community has to 399 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: endure this type of behavior. 400 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: And I spot on. I think that's reflective like this 401 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 2: they've got to go to court, clearly, but I think 402 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 2: we're all quite astounded by that vision. And I'm so 403 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 2: glad that police have caught up with them and they 404 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 2: can go through the court process. So thank you please, 405 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 2: because what they did was completely unacceptable, and pour in 406 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 2: and lea on what they've gone through with their business 407 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 2: and their staff absolutely unacceptable. 408 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 8: And at the end of the day, I mean, our 409 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 8: community just does not feel safe anymore. 410 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 4: They really don't. It doesn't matter where you go in 411 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 4: the territory. 412 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 8: You speak to territorians, whether they're working or they're running 413 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 8: a business, even to our tourists that I get to 414 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 8: catch up with sometimes, and they just don't feel safe. 415 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 8: And what we need is a government to come forward 416 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 8: with legislation which puts the rights of victims and society 417 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 8: well above the rights of offenders, so that the message 418 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 8: is loud and clear that if they do that, if 419 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 8: they break the law, then they're not going to get 420 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 8: away with it. Because without law and order in our society, 421 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 8: nothing else functions. We can't have good healthcare, we can't 422 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 8: have good education, nothing else happens. We can't get tourists 423 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 8: to come here, and that is why it is so 424 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 8: important this government puts that as its number one priority. 425 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 8: And so far or we've seen as actually the opposite, 426 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 8: absolute garbage. 427 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: We are going to have to wrap up, have a 428 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: bit of a break and when we come back there 429 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: is a lot to discuss, including will Santos pulling the 430 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: pin from the Darwen Festival. 431 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 3: If you've just joined us, it. 432 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 1: Is the week that was and in the studio this 433 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: morning is Mary Clair boothby Kesier Puric, Nicole Madison and 434 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: Matt Cunningham. Now throughout the week you would have certainly 435 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: heard we were talking about earlier in the week that 436 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: Australian energy producer Santos has ended its twenty plus year 437 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: sponsorship of the Darwen Festival. So let us sent to 438 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: the festival chair in Q on Tuesday revealed that the 439 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: company took the step when it learned that an alternative 440 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: festival funding source had been found. Now the festival which runs, 441 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: of course, well it ran last year from the August 442 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: four to twenty one earlier, Yeah, last year it was yeah, 443 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: it receives no sorry earlier this year I can't even 444 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: remember wherein Yes, it receives one hundred thousand dollars sponsorship 445 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: annually from the South Australian based resources company. Now Santos 446 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: first sponsored the Darwin Festival back in nineteen ninety six. 447 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: Now Santos obviously sponsors the opening night concert. It is 448 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: a huge concert each and every year. It means that 449 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: people can go for free, they can go and be 450 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: parting revisionous artists. And what's happened here is we've got 451 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: a situation where where a group of. 452 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 3: Environmentalists have come out and is that what you call it, well, 453 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 3: and you know, a bunch of dropkicks, well activists, I 454 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 3: guess you'd say they. 455 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: Have and they've basically I would call it that they're threatening. 456 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: I would say that they're threatening the Darwin Festival. And 457 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: basically now have said, look, we can find an alternative 458 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: funding source for you only for one hundred thousand dollars. 459 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 3: Because let's be really blunt about this, and I want 460 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 3: to be really clear. 461 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: I used to be on the Darwin Festival board, so 462 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: for the sake of disclosure, I was on there. I'm 463 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: no longer on that board. I stepped off last year. 464 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: But the festival receives funding from various different organizations and 465 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: it needs to be able to actually put on the 466 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: wonderful event that it is. 467 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 3: It needs that funding now. 468 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: The reason it needs that funding in addition to some 469 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: funding from the Northern territory government is so that it 470 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: can put on an event that tourists come to that 471 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: territorians can enjoy. And that's so we're in a situation 472 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: where it's sustainable itself. 473 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,959 Speaker 6: And to make classy acting from overseas as well as 474 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 6: that try. 475 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: Six years ago it's fantastic. Six years ago though it wasn't. 476 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: It went broke. And this is the reason why they're 477 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: in a situation now where it is financially sustainable is 478 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 1: they've had to make some very prudent decisions and had 479 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,719 Speaker 1: to be quite savvy about the way in which it 480 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: is funded and the way in which it operates. I 481 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: thought it was pretty disgraceful earlier in the week when 482 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: I'd seen this unfold. 483 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 2: Absolutely disgraceful. What are absolutely disgraceful? Sorry, I just got 484 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 2: to get a few of my thoughts out on the table, Katie, 485 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 2: because I'm furious. I'm ropeable at this one. 486 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 6: Run them out of town, kicks. 487 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 2: What I will say is that your spot on the 488 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 2: festival is an absolute success. It is financially stable, It 489 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 2: gets tourists here, locals love it, and that is because 490 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 2: of the amazing work of the back Comitty that bought 491 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 2: and the leadership of I and Q. They picked the 492 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 2: right people to run the darn festival and they all 493 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 2: put their shoulders to the wheel. And now this week 494 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 2: I've heard the most disgraceful comments here, absolute disgraceful comments 495 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 2: from these people external to the festival. 496 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 5: Are they really territory or the mesolutely And. 497 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 2: Just what made my bloodball the most was the things 498 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 2: that they were saying about good hard working volunteers that 499 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 2: make the festival a success, and the fact that they 500 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 2: are trying to remove them and they are disgraced. Their 501 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 2: comments have been absolutely arrogant, out of touch. They've been 502 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,479 Speaker 2: just throwing around like one hundred thousand dollars is no money. 503 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 2: One hundred thousand dollars go ask any festival here in 504 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 2: the territory, any any major event organizations, a huge dred. 505 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 2: Thousand dollars is a huge amount of money in the 506 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 2: Northern Territory. And I think the disgraceful comments made by 507 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 2: this organization attacking the festival and attacking these individuals, they 508 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 2: should hang their heads in shame, like absolute shame. 509 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 6: I saw Nicole Minister's comments about or on TV about 510 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 6: you know how these people had basically said, oh, there 511 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 6: needs to be a spill of the board and the 512 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 6: chairman Ian Q and casm Tilmount, who's the CEO of 513 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 6: the Minerals Council, should step down and step away. 514 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 3: So because of an association. 515 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 6: With the mindles and the patrolling industry Luggy and Q 516 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 6: has had a past involvement with a petroleum company, one 517 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 6: of the well known ones, but that was like twenty 518 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 6: five years ago before his time last week. 519 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 3: I agree with you. 520 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 6: So where do these people get off trying to threaten 521 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 6: the board of the festival threaten probably the anti governor 522 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 6: as well because of their touchy feely Oh we can't 523 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 6: have fossil fuels, Well, give up your car, give up 524 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 6: your jewelry, give up your electronic appliances, give up your 525 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,479 Speaker 6: smart watchers, don't wear runners because runners come predominantly from 526 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 6: petroleum products. Like they are just living in a world 527 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 6: that is just not realistic. And I agree with Nicole. 528 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 6: It's a disgrace that they picked on two individuals to 529 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 6: buddy quit what they've been doing so well for so 530 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 6: many years. 531 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 7: And just the irony of saying that we're doing this 532 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,239 Speaker 7: in support with traditional owners and First Nations people and 533 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 7: then without drawing breath. 534 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 5: So they want Catherine Tilmouth kicked off the day on festival. 535 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 3: Board, who's a proud Indigenous woman. 536 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 6: It's just extraordinary. 537 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 5: The Dawn Festival. 538 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 7: I feel really sorry for the festival and the board 539 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,959 Speaker 7: because they're having a gun held to their head in 540 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 7: this situation. I've got the letter here that was sent 541 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 7: to the Darwin Festival by the McKinnon Family Foundation. It 542 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 7: is which is a Sydney based philanthropic organization in and 543 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 7: it's with the support of four different other foundations, the 544 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 7: Graham Wood Foundation, Lenco Family Foundation, Oranges and Sardines Foundation 545 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 7: and e Fie Invest Foundation f Invest Foundation. Anyway, in 546 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 7: this letter, they're saying we'll give you one hundred thousand 547 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 7: dollars over the next two years, which is what Santos contributes, right, 548 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 7: but only over the next two years at this stage. 549 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 7: But there are conditions attached, and the conditions are the 550 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 7: offera is made on the understanding that the Darwen Festival 551 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 7: end its relationship with Santos and other fossil fuel companies 552 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 7: in time for the twenty twenty three festival. Now there 553 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 7: is also a sponsor. My understanding is to the tune 554 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 7: of one hundred thousand dollars. So this great opportunity, as 555 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 7: the activist described to he's going to custom two hundred 556 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 7: thousand dollars over the next two years, and then what 557 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 7: happens in two years time, because this letter also says right, 558 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 7: it says, depending on action from the board, we would 559 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 7: be happy to discuss ongoing support beyond this time frame. 560 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 7: So basically, you submit to all of our demands. You 561 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 7: can tell what the demands are going to be. They're 562 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 7: already calling for Ian Q and Catherine Tilmouth to be 563 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 7: kicked off the board, right, So what you've got to 564 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 7: kick anyone who's ever had a link to the oil 565 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 7: and gas industry off the board, You've got to They 566 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 7: also want them to sign up to some kind of 567 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 7: ethical sponsorship arrangement, promising that they'll never have sponsorship for 568 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 7: anyone who what their moral police deem to be unworthy. 569 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 5: I'm sure the Anti News will be kicked off as 570 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 5: a sponsor soon enough. 571 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 6: Call nine all of us, honestly, because Anti newsprint story 572 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 6: about petrolomy. Now, let's take I don't know if a 573 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 6: company like a legal film like Ward Keller is a sponsor, 574 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 6: but Ward Keller has got a lot of patrolum the 575 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 6: Mirning clients. I know that because Kevin Stevens is the 576 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 6: boss and he's an exceptional mining lawyer. Now, if they're 577 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 6: a sponsor, are they going to say, oh, we don't 578 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 6: want ward that thing? 579 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: I should Why should the Darwin Festival have a gun 580 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: held to their head? But I had an external group 581 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: that why should they have any control or why should 582 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 1: they actually have any right to determine who or who 583 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: doesn't sponsor the Darwin Festival? And I might add that 584 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: the Darwin Festival has had the most successful years that 585 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: they've ever had few years through COVID, that team had 586 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: to change the program. 587 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 3: I don't know how. 588 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: Many times last year they would have already locked in 589 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: different acts for next year. The planning that goes in 590 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 1: to that festival years in advance, it goes years in advantage. 591 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 2: But the reason why it is successful is because there 592 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 2: are good local people running the show that are passionate 593 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 2: about it, that want it to succeed, and they have succeeded. 594 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: Again, can I ask if the boar so if we 595 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: wind up in a situation here where you know, where 596 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 1: all fossil fuel sponsorships are pulled from the Dough and Festival. 597 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: Is the government prepared to prop up the Dough and 598 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: Festival in two years time when the philanthropic organizations no 599 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: longer decide that they want to support the festival. 600 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 3: If that happens, we want the don Festival to succeed. 601 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 2: We've always given them good sponsorship to work with them. However, 602 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 2: we shouldn't be in this position. They should be able 603 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 2: to know all about follow good corporate governance, good governance 604 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 2: running a bloody festival and get the right sponsors who 605 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 2: are going to back them in and make it financially sustainable. 606 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 2: People want these things to be self sustaining. So again 607 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 2: why this is ridiculous, But I'm getting really frustrated Katie, 608 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 2: because we've seen this activism go right across the board. 609 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 2: And yes I am a passionate resources minister, but people 610 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,959 Speaker 2: have got to get real about this energy transition. We 611 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 2: all want to see the planet powered by renewable energy. 612 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 2: We all want to see the issue of climate change tackled. 613 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 2: But you can't do it overnight. You need to transition 614 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 2: and if these people and again nothing more than frustrateds 615 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 2: means to see a you know, a busted up old 616 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 2: bloody land cruiser or or Prato with an anty fracking 617 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 2: sticker on it, sitting in a car park and. 618 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 6: You see metal from the mining industry. 619 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 2: You go, come on, guys, if you want solar panels, 620 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 2: wind turbines, batteries, you actually need to mind those resources. 621 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 2: And they're here in the territory. 622 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 4: I really, colleagues, hope they're listening. 623 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 2: You want to get to a cleaner, greener future, We've 624 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 2: got those materials here in the Outhern Territory and that 625 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 2: energy transition. People need to be able to afford to 626 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 2: turn the lights on. People need to be able to 627 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 2: afford the price of power. It's a big cost of 628 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 2: living pressure. The best way to get there to that 629 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 2: transition to renewable energy in a safe, secure and affordable 630 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 2: way is gas and you take cole out. That's next 631 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 2: phase out, and then eventually gas will go that injury. 632 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 8: But it's. 633 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 2: You they're hitting themselves that they don't think that most 634 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 2: things they use everyday life haven't had some component of 635 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 2: gas to do it. 636 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: And do you know what stopped making people? Also stopping 637 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: to tend for that, Chief Minister, but stop making people 638 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: also that work in the resources industry. We've got some 639 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: bloody wonderful territories that work in the resource industry, back. 640 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 2: Local events, stoking and on their table now the good 641 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 2: quality of life because they get good quality jobs in 642 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: that sector. 643 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly I'm with the one hundred percent. 644 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 7: Now. 645 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 6: I think there's two issues here that have been forged 646 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 6: into one issue by these blowings from down south. They 647 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 6: are targeting the festival and the artists and everyone associated 648 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 6: with that, and they've got their climate change argument over here. 649 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 6: They're trying to merge the two to make them look 650 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 6: like they're the saviors of our planet, which they're not. 651 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 6: They're hypocrites, and I've said that before. They are the 652 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 6: biggest hypocrites around. I have never been a hypocrite. I'm 653 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 6: living the col I'm a huge support of the resources industry, 654 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 6: doesn't matter what kind of resources it is now to 655 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 6: use our day on festival and I know some of 656 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 6: the people on the board, and I've been to a 657 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 6: couple of the events, not as many as perhaps you have, Katie, 658 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 6: but have enjoyed my time there. And it's a long 659 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 6: history and I for one know the history of Sandos 660 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 6: in the Northern Territory, and they have done a lot 661 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 6: for the Northern Territory in more ways than what people realize. 662 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 6: And that's perhaps part of their issue is they haven't 663 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 6: they haven't been forward in their education and their information 664 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 6: about what they've done for the Northern Territory. But these 665 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 6: people should pack up their little lefty bags and go 666 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 6: back to Sydney because one they're not wanted and two 667 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 6: they're definitely not needed. Now I'm sure Ian Q, with 668 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 6: his expertise and knowledge and skill set, they will find 669 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 6: replacement sponsors. We don't want their money, we don't want 670 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 6: their dirty lefty money. They can take that back to 671 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 6: Sydney and go and go and find some Where's that 672 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 6: festival Nimber or somewhere they go and take your money 673 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 6: down to Nimber. Because it's a private sector that helps 674 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 6: this festival do what it's done. And it's only done 675 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 6: that because of the composition and the board members. 676 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: You know, several years ago when things were dial calling 677 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: to take over the Darwin Festival. 678 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 2: Exactly when the hardest of times have just been through 679 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 2: through COVID, when just keeping events going was so hard, 680 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 2: these sponsors have stood through through thick and currant ye 681 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 2: match turned. 682 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 7: I was only going to say that it needs to 683 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 7: be pointed out that it wasn't the Darwin Festival's decision 684 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 7: to boot out Santas. Right, this letter gets sent to 685 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 7: Santos after the Darlin Festival receives it, fair enough and 686 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 7: they say, hey, Santos, we've received Santos says, all right, 687 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 7: we're out and you can't blame Santos. Why would you 688 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 7: want to sponsor an event where where people are telling 689 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 7: you we don't want your money? 690 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 5: How I have connect with what about Impacts? Have written this? 691 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 5: But this is what's next? Right? 692 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 7: And I don't even know whether these Impacts is not 693 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 7: mentioned in the letter, and I don't know whether whether 694 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 7: these people knew that Impacts was a major sponsor as well. 695 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 7: But the letter is clear, no fossil fuel sponsorship. Right, 696 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 7: two hundred thousand dollars over the next two years on 697 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 7: the condition of no fossil fuel sponsorship. 698 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 6: I just think no institute go back to the stri. 699 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 5: All the festivals in a no win position. 700 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 3: This is the hard part because what. 701 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 5: Does it do. 702 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 7: Does it take that two hundred thousand dollars, It's still 703 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 7: going to be two hundred thousand dollars down. 704 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 6: No, But you know if they called out to the 705 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 6: private sector, look at the darn festival. If you want 706 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 6: promotion and you want to keep improving your social license 707 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 6: to operate, look at it a function and the people 708 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 6: of the festival as a way to have an engagement 709 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 6: in a community partnership, you know, thanks to myself. 710 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: If the you know, if these if this group isn't 711 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: happy with the way in which the festival is operating, 712 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: start your own. 713 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 7: And the great irony, Katie, is that in two years 714 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 7: time the festival will probably have to go cap in 715 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 7: hand to the anti government and be bailed out on 716 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 7: royalties from the gas industry and the mining royalties that 717 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 7: we received from Western Australian taxpayers. 718 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: So like so it's going to end up in the 719 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: same situation. Well, look, let's all take a moment to 720 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: calm down. We'll have a bit of a break, pay 721 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: the bills and we're more than happy for Santos to 722 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: sponsor the show. 723 00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 3: If they'd like to. 724 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: Eight nine four one one four nine is the number 725 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: if you do want to call through this morning. But 726 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: we'll take a bit of a break and when we 727 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: come back there's still plenty more to discuss. You are 728 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: listening to Mix one O four nine's three sixty. I'm 729 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: not sure if we've calmed down yet, but let's get 730 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: back into it. It is just fourteen minutes away from 731 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: ten o'clock, not for my niches, So all right, let's go. 732 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: Let's have a talk about these e scooter injuries very quickly, 733 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 1: if we may, because there's been this new study that's 734 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: highlighted the significant impact that e scooters are having on 735 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: the top Ends health system, with one hundred presentations to 736 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,760 Speaker 1: the emergency department in eight months. 737 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 2: Now. 738 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 1: The thing that is obviously quite interesting is of those 739 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: all of who were admitted to hospital were intoxicated while riding. 740 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 3: What a surprise. 741 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 1: I really like the e scooters. Can I just put 742 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:48,879 Speaker 1: that out there right from the get go. I think 743 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: it's a good initiative, that it's something a bit different. 744 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: You see people zipping around all over the place, but 745 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 1: it's just once you had a few bevyes, don't get 746 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: on an e scooter. 747 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 3: I think, what's the. 748 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 5: Only time I ever get. 749 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 6: Watch I've never them, but literally about them is they 750 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 6: have solid ties. They don't have humatic ties, so when 751 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 6: they hit the curve, there's no bounce, so they just 752 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 6: hit the curb. 753 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:17,439 Speaker 4: When the people on them are. 754 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: Pist they go, So I impact this is having do 755 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 1: you think financially? 756 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,879 Speaker 3: You know, when you talk about the Hell's system bill 757 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 3: bill first, I think. 758 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 2: They I want to talk about the positives and then 759 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 2: I'll talk about the negatives. 760 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 3: So so, look, they are definitely for gold. 761 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 7: Don't mind out that they don't run on gas or 762 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 7: any petrochemicals. 763 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 6: But they're made from metal. 764 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 2: Okay, come on, people, So so first, they're definitely added 765 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 2: to the vibrancy of Darwin. 766 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 5: They do. 767 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 2: They're a pretty effective mechanism for getting people to a 768 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 2: to b in a very hot, sticky tropical climate, particularly 769 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 2: this year. It's a beautiful thing in the dry season, 770 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 2: watching everybody around it. But people have got to take 771 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 2: a bit of personal responsibility on these things. Don't get 772 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 2: on them if you're pissed, do not get on them 773 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 2: if you've had a few. We are, we're constantly having 774 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 2: a look at how they are operating. They are still 775 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 2: relatively new, and making sure that we do keep up 776 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 2: with with changes as we see fit. But I mean, 777 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 2: I think they've added a really positive, vibrant part to Darwin. 778 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 2: But again, people need to take a bit of self 779 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 2: responsibility on these things and do the right thing, take 780 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 2: care of yourself and take care of the other people around. 781 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: We need to make them slow down between the hours 782 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 1: of midnight before I am or something like that. 783 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 7: Looking at that, I reckon Mana is right that you 784 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 7: can't legislate against stupidity, like and you know, if you're 785 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 7: stupid enough to get on it drunk and go it 786 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 7: flat out, you know you probably. 787 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 8: I heard someone say something like if the footpaths were 788 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 8: in better condition than maybe the the rasons, which is 789 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 8: probably a bit stretch, but I think they're they're great. 790 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 8: They're great for Darwin. You know, it just helps with, 791 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 8: like you say, people getting. 792 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 5: Around being sticky. 793 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 8: I think if we're going to focus on hospital presentations, 794 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 8: we've got a lot more serious things that we should 795 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 8: be looking at in terms of you know, alcohol abuse, 796 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 8: violence and things like that. 797 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 5: So that's right. 798 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 7: Even in that case, it's the alcohol, not the scooter 799 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 7: that's probably fault exactly. 800 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 8: It's a bit like I remember Minister Warden saying that 801 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 8: in our spring shopping trolleys need to be dealt with, 802 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,280 Speaker 8: need to be put away because it causes crime. Whereas 803 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 8: you know, obviously it's not the shopping trolley's fault. It's 804 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 8: actually the criminals that. 805 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 4: It's their fault. 806 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 8: So yes, definitely we should be keeping experience and any 807 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,359 Speaker 8: all of these nanny state rules that go on. 808 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,240 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, it's personal responsibility. 809 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: Well, and surely we can all, you know, we all 810 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 1: try our best to be responsible. Sometimes it's a little 811 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 1: bit more difficult than other times, but that's I agree. 812 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: I think there's no point in getting rid of them. 813 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: People seem to use someone see people scooting around to 814 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 1: get to work, and you know, in between beach markets. 815 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 2: I just always love seeing them lined up there and 816 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 2: just remembering a long time ago being a backpacker, you 817 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 2: just go, yeah, what a nice experience that would be 818 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 2: to visit on your scooter en off you go along the. 819 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 6: Cart and government give them a bill at the hospital. 820 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 6: I don't know, but if they present a hospital and 821 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 6: they've clearly had a scooter action and they're pissed, but. 822 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 5: Where do you draw the line on that? 823 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 3: Well, that's right then should anyone. 824 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 5: Who's in hospital for an incident where. 825 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 3: They're books right? 826 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 6: Number thought, maybe the government talks with the company that 827 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 6: owns the scooters and comes to some arrangement where an 828 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 6: extra fee is put onto the scooter higher and that 829 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 6: fee then is somehow given to the hospital coverent or 830 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 6: to the hospital to pay for the tennance. 831 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:40,399 Speaker 3: There's ways around. 832 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 6: We just got to think, well, if it starts to 833 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 6: hit people in their hip pocket, then they might be 834 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 6: a little bit more sensible. 835 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: Maybe we could ask Santos if they want to sponsor 836 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: the scooters. 837 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 3: Sponsor the scooters. 838 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 1: Well, take a very short break. You're this thing to 839 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,280 Speaker 1: mix one O four nine's three sixty. We're fast running 840 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: out of time this morning. If you've just joined us, 841 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: well you've missed a few massive rants by all of 842 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: us today Nicole Madison, Keseyer Puric and Mariy Clare Boothby 843 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:14,720 Speaker 1: or cimb Sorry. Now, something interesting that did happen throughout 844 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: the week is well the bomb trying to do a 845 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: rebrand now. Obviously the Environment Minister Tanya Plebasek shot down 846 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: the Bureau of Meteorology's request for people not to call 847 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 1: it the bomb, saying Australians should be free to call 848 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: it whatever they like. As the full cost of that 849 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 1: rebrand was revealed two hundred and twenty thousand dollars, including 850 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: cash to update the organization's visual style and logo, conduct research, 851 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 1: develop pull up manners, and support media engagement. If they'd 852 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 1: done that research first, they'd have found that nobody wanted 853 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 1: the name change. 854 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 6: I think some public servant, no disrespect to our public 855 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:53,919 Speaker 6: serviance here in the church, because they're all good people. 856 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 4: Some bright public servant. 857 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 6: Down in camera where they're not so bright, came up 858 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 6: with a thought bubble that, oh, let's have a rehash 859 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 6: of our brand because some poor bugger that's gone to 860 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 6: Barley can't download Bomb because it's Bomb, Like why are 861 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 6: you looking at a weather for Australia when you're in Bali? 862 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 7: Like seriously, I love There was one excuse that got 863 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 7: around that said that it was because Australians seemed to 864 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,320 Speaker 7: be confused about who to turn to for weather information, 865 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 7: and yet in the same breath they were saying, don't 866 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 7: call us the weather bureau, like just call it. 867 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Katiel, it's a winning brands brand, Yeah, is it? 868 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 2: All I want the BOMB to be focused on is 869 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 2: giving me accurate weather predictions and weather forecast? 870 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 5: All want them. 871 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 2: Focused on their call business maker. I guess what, It's 872 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 2: a winning brand. 873 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think that. 874 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 8: I mean, all Australians are struggling with the cost of 875 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 8: living and if they're going to go and spend hundreds 876 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,800 Speaker 8: of thousands of dollars for a decision to change branding, 877 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 8: it's just ridiculous. I mean, there are so many bigger 878 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,840 Speaker 8: things that we need to be worrying about right across Australia. 879 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 6: Absolutely, two hundred and fifty thousand that they were going 880 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 6: to spend on rebranding Bomb, they could give it to 881 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 6: the darn Festivalgy could be a major spons in all seriousness. 882 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,879 Speaker 1: The fact that they tried to announce this as well 883 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 1: throughout terrible flooding in other states was actually the disgracefulness stupid. 884 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 5: It's a bit like the old nickname rule when you're 885 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:19,479 Speaker 5: a kid. 886 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 7: If you don't want to be if you don't want 887 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 7: to be called by a nickname, don't let people know 888 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 7: so you don't like that, and it's like MCB over 889 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:35,840 Speaker 7: here forever you let people know that you didn't like 890 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 7: a nickname, that people would call you that was your 891 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 7: nickname forever. 892 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,319 Speaker 5: It was like, yeah, yeah, you've got it forever. 893 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 7: In a new world these days, where you know, you 894 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 7: say I want to be called whatever and that's what 895 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 7: people have to call you, so like, I don't know, it's. 896 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 8: Just it was just insensitive of them in a way, 897 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 8: isn't it because of all this awful weather. 898 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,839 Speaker 3: And then we go, oh, let's change that. Let's let's 899 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 3: announce a rebrand now thinking. 900 00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 2: About marketing even just an absolute stuff ye like and 901 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 2: glad to hear that the Federal Minister's got someone is 902 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 2: just someone's been hold should be absolutely everyone in the 903 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 2: country has had a good laugh. And guess what everyone 904 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:10,720 Speaker 2: still thinks it's the bomb. 905 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 3: It's the calling it that they will they most certainly will. Well, 906 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 3: we've run out of. 907 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 1: Time this morning. Great to have you all in the 908 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,280 Speaker 1: studio with us. Matt Cunningham from Sky News, thank. 909 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 7: You, thanks Wolfe and great to see the under ten 910 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,799 Speaker 7: girls footy kickoff on Monday night. It was amazing and 911 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 7: maybe we could get Santosh. 912 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 3: Well maybe the whole comp Yes, I don't think so. 913 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,720 Speaker 3: Nicole Madison, the Deputy chief finish, thank. 914 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 2: You, Thanks Katie, and I just want to say a 915 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 2: big shout out to Wanuri Primary School. They did the 916 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 2: most amazing cultural festival last night. 917 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 3: I'm so proud of them. 918 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 2: Thank you for celebrating what is the greatest thing about 919 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 2: dull and multiculturalism? Just so beautiful, well done. 920 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 5: One Gury Primary. 921 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 3: Kisier Puric the member for Good. Thank Katie, lovely to 922 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 3: have you in the studios always. 923 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,359 Speaker 1: And Murray Claire Boothby mc beck, thank you very much 924 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:00,400 Speaker 1: for your time this morning. 925 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:01,800 Speaker 8: I just want to give a shout out to Total 926 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 8: Recreation who are doing their dancing with the celebrities on 927 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 8: Saturday nights. So are you Yes, It's my third time 928 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,240 Speaker 8: doing it, so I'm actually hoping to take the win also. 929 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 4: But I'll tell you what, You've got to do a 930 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 4: lot of rehearsals. 931 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, can you tell me very quickly? Dan and sair 932 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,399 Speaker 1: b Any Good that are on Brecky here at Mix. 933 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,319 Speaker 1: Have they been quite good with their rehearsals. 934 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 3: I don't know. 935 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,280 Speaker 8: Maybe I'll film them for you please. 936 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 4: So I'm a lot of fun and it's a great cause. 937 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 4: It definitely helps them out a lot wonderful stuff. 938 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,240 Speaker 1: Well, lovely to have you all in this studio this morning. 939 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for your time. You have been listening 940 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 1: to Mix one O four nine's week that was