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Speaker 1: This is jem Nation with Jones.

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Speaker 2: So I want to talk to you both about it

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Speaker 2: being a bit of a weird week for Prince Harry

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Speaker 2: and Meghan Markle. So over the weekend it was announced

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Speaker 2: that for this year's Trooping the color balcony appearance, the

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Speaker 2: Queen has decided that only working royals are going to appear.

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Speaker 2: So that means no Meghan, Harry or Andrew a.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm thinking, because there's a bit of

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Speaker 3: a stench around Andrew. Yes, so the collateral damage is okay,

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Speaker 3: Harry and Meghan.

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Speaker 1: You've got to take a bullet.

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Speaker 4: Oh do you think that? So it's semantics.

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Speaker 2: Working because the Queen.

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Speaker 4: Has gone out of her way to say that Harry

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Speaker 4: and Meghan have stepped away from their royal roles, but

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Speaker 4: they are still family.

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Speaker 1: So I was.

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Speaker 4: Surprised when I heard that they weren't going to be

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Speaker 4: on the balcony. But this makes sense.

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Speaker 1: But it makes perfect sense, and there's nothing to see here.

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Speaker 1: It's not personal. It's working royals.

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Speaker 3: And the Queen's going I like Andrew, but I can't

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Speaker 3: have If I can't have Andrew, I can't you Harry.

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Speaker 4: Does that mean that the the Andrew's daughters will be there.

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Speaker 4: Are they working royals? They're not working as royals.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they are.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they are stripped back balcony.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that'll be interesting. But so of course it's

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Speaker 2: a really special trip in the color because it kicks

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Speaker 2: off the events for Hurt Platinum jubileeve Shane.

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Speaker 4: Harry can't be there.

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Speaker 2: He is coming to some of the events, but he

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Speaker 2: won't be on the balcony, right.

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Speaker 1: It's a shame. Do they have another balcony presentation?

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Speaker 2: They've got other like little events, a.

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Speaker 3: Little balconies, like like a different he's just outside on

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Speaker 3: the back deck.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder what, because how does England feel about him?

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Speaker 4: I know that they're hurt that he's leaving is one thing,

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Speaker 4: but to stab the royal family has been another.

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Speaker 2: I know. I think that there's some weird vibes over

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Speaker 2: Harry and Meghan at the moment because of obviously, you

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Speaker 2: know his NBC interview last month where he said a

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Speaker 2: few things about the Queen and he's definitely that sibling

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Speaker 2: who weighs in on Grandma when it's like, well, you're

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Speaker 2: not there to help Gramma, You're not there helping her

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Speaker 2: when she's got a saw leg.

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Speaker 4: Because he said, I want to check that she's got

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Speaker 4: the right people around me. I think we didn't come

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Speaker 4: to the memorial service for her.

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Speaker 2: Husband exactly, So I think that's a bit of a

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Speaker 2: weird vibe. And then with Netflix, you know how Megan

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Speaker 2: and Harry signed their big Netflix and Spotify deals. Netflix

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Speaker 2: has canceled development of Pearl, which was the animated series

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Speaker 2: Megan Markle was working on. So I feel a little

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Speaker 2: bit like they've signed these big deals. I haven't really

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Speaker 2: done much.

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Speaker 4: Well, there was a theory I read that that's why

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Speaker 4: Harry had to say I'm in constant contact with the Queen,

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Speaker 4: because otherwise he loses any viability he has with Netflix.

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Speaker 4: Americans want to know that he's still connected exactly.

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Speaker 2: And apparently there's been rumors that when Megan and Harry

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Speaker 2: go to the Jubilee celebrations, they want to bring cameras

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Speaker 2: and the Royal family is having to say no, you can't.

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Speaker 2: It's not a reality show the Royal and.

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Speaker 4: Isn't it interesting? I think this is what Meghan Markle

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Speaker 4: hasn't understood. We were speaking last week, and I know

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Speaker 4: that you have an opinion on this too Tina Brown's

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Speaker 4: new book, where she said that Meghan hadn't enjoyed her

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Speaker 4: experience in Australia at all. Yeah, she didn't get the

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Speaker 4: role of the royal.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and oh I have a lot of feelings about that,

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Speaker 2: because that is sort of what kicked off a lot

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Speaker 2: of this talk about the royals at the moment, because

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Speaker 2: Meghan Michael allegedly called her trip to Australia pointless and

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Speaker 2: hated every second of it. And I am one of

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Speaker 2: those weird people who waited for hours to see her

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Speaker 2: at the opera house. I had a lovely day. Wait why,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but you're a reasonable woman, I know,

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Speaker 2: But I just I asked work. I said, do you

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Speaker 2: guys mind if I take the morning off and go

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Speaker 2: wait for Meghan? And they said, you know what, go

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Speaker 2: do it.

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Speaker 1: And I off your game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah she did. I don't know why anyone let me

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Speaker 2: do it?

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Speaker 4: And did you see her up close?

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Speaker 2: I shook her hand and I said, we've got audio

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Speaker 2: of my cringe worthy moment.

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Speaker 4: So wonderful.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations, congratulations, so that you're going.

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Speaker 1: You didn't ask one question, so imp you didn't have

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Speaker 1: asked why weren't you in Horrible Bosses too?

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Speaker 2: I know, I just said congratulations because they had announced

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Speaker 2: that they were having aren't you? I was so excited.

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Speaker 2: It was very odd. But I do feel a little

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Speaker 2: bit personally victimized that I had this lovely day. And

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Speaker 2: whenever people talk about Harry and Meghan, I say, well,

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Speaker 2: when I met them personally for four seconds, they seemed lovely.

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Speaker 2: And now I find out Meghan hated it.

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Speaker 1: She didn't like you like me, You just got caught

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Speaker 1: up in the bus.

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Speaker 2: Did I as if? Did you guys get caught up

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Speaker 2: in the buzz? Or was it just me?

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Speaker 4: You know, I kind of got caught up in the buzz.

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Speaker 4: And I thought they were the future of the Royal

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Speaker 4: family and a modern version and I like all that

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Speaker 4: they stood for. And how do you feel about Meghan now?

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Speaker 4: Because I've really turned.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, see I loved her. I felt the same when

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Speaker 2: they came. I thought, this is a new era for

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Speaker 2: the Royal family, who I never cared about how I felt,

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Speaker 2: And now I feel it's more my pettiness makes me

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Speaker 2: feel that they did sign this huge Spotify deal, thirty

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Speaker 2: million dollars in Spotify, and they made one podcast in

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Speaker 2: eighteen months.

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Speaker 1: You guys know, were you a podcast? Every day?

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Speaker 4: Podcast?

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Speaker 2: Every day?

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Speaker 1: We're not getting that?

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 4: I know, how often can they slag off the Royal

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Speaker 4: family because no one wants to hear about their trips

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Speaker 4: to Africa and what they feel about sustainability.

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Speaker 1: But Claire, would you if a man and I were

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Speaker 1: repairing at the Opera House, would you wait? Would you

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Speaker 1: say to Mayor Friedman? Now, I'm going to have to

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Speaker 1: take the day off because we were like the Beatles?

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Speaker 4: Did you get swept up in the frenzy? If there

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Speaker 4: was a public hanging.

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Speaker 1: Who's gully?

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Speaker 2: I want to see yelling congratulations for no reason?

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Speaker 1: That would be me the well, this has been great,

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Speaker 1: Thank you Claire. It's always a treat to catch up

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Speaker 1: with you. That's entertainment. You can catch the podcast canceled

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Speaker 1: where you will hear Claire with an evil twin Jesse.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, Claire,