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Speaker 1: Now joining me live in the studio from the Northern

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Speaker 1: Territory Police. It is Commander of the Darwin Region, Sean

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Speaker 1: gil Good morning to you, Sean.

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Speaker 2: Morning, Katie, morning to your listeners.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for your time this morning now, Sean.

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Speaker 1: First off, obviously we've got this cyclone looming, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: The Northern Territory Police do plenty of work to make

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Speaker 1: sure that everybody's sort of as organized as possible in

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Speaker 1: these situations.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely so there's been a lot of planning going on

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Speaker 2: from a Darwin local and a regional perspective as well.

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Speaker 2: So Anti Police work really hard with anti emergency Services.

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Speaker 2: I understand there's going to be a brief after that,

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Speaker 2: but I can assure you that we're well planned and

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Speaker 2: prepared for this and we're ready to go to the

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Speaker 2: next level if we have to do that as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're going to catch up with Wayne Snell

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Speaker 1: from the Anti Emergency Services in about fifteen minutes time,

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Speaker 1: so we'll talk a little more about it there. But

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Speaker 1: I would imagine such a coordinated response from all of

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Speaker 1: our frontline services to make sure that wherever the cyclone

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Speaker 1: does end up up crossing land that you know, we're

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Speaker 1: doing everything possible to keep people safe, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: And it's probably a good time to note to it.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of other government departments who have roles

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Speaker 2: in emergency response and they're all on board, so they've

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Speaker 2: been brief regularly. They know what's going on. Wayne Sneill

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Speaker 2: is probably on my speed dial list at the moment,

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Speaker 2: so we've been talking to each other so much. So

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Speaker 2: it's it's a lot of work out. But the good

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Speaker 2: thing is we've got a pretty experienced cohort in terms

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Speaker 2: of doing this, and it doesn't take much to activate

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Speaker 2: them and they basically get in there and know what

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Speaker 2: they're doing straight away, which is good. So I'm happy

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Speaker 2: with where we're at and the same. But it's certainly,

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Speaker 2: as you know, it's a whole government response and everybody

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Speaker 2: is on board with it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Sean, remember how many cyclones you've lived through in

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Speaker 1: the Northern Territory. Can you think off the top of

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Speaker 1: your head?

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Speaker 2: Quite a few. I'm actually a cyclone Tracy baby, So

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Speaker 2: there you go, a seven year old giving away age now.

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Speaker 2: But as you're saying, and it's one of those things

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Speaker 2: you can't take them lightly. You see what's going on

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Speaker 2: in terms of what this has suggested wind strength and

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Speaker 2: the life as well. But my view is and are saying,

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Speaker 2: without taking anything away from Wayne, now is the time

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Speaker 2: to be prepared. It's also now is not the time

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Speaker 2: to panic. So there's plenty of work to be done.

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Speaker 2: Everybody is prepared for it. The good thing is the

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Speaker 2: community as a whole a pretty resilient of this sort

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Speaker 2: of thing, and you even know what to do. So

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Speaker 2: it's really just a matter of moving forward and will

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Speaker 2: continue to monitor. And I know that there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of media that's going to be coming up fairly shortly

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Speaker 2: on that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well we will catch up with Wayne in a

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Speaker 1: round fifteen minutes time. Shawn. Quite a bit going on

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Speaker 1: at the moment, But from overnight, I understand that the

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Speaker 1: Northern Territory Police have made an a rest at the

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Speaker 1: bag Att community.

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Speaker 2: Is that correct, Yeah, that's correct. So last night we

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Speaker 2: had a report of a person running around the community

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Speaker 2: threatening people with an edge weapon and red one stage

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Speaker 2: throwing a gas bottle at somebody, so obviously that level

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Speaker 2: offending is concerning. We can report that a sixteen year

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Speaker 2: old male has been arrested with regards to that and

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Speaker 2: those investigations are ongoing. But as I was saying, there

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Speaker 2: was numerous reports about that, and the fact that your

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Speaker 2: gas bodels and edge weapons and all that is always

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Speaker 1: It is a worry. I mean, throwing a gas bottle

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Speaker 1: at somebody else is a really concerning situation. Was anybody injured?

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Speaker 2: Oh, look, I don't have any information with regards to that,

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Speaker 2: but it's one of those things that've got quite a

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Speaker 2: few phone calls. Obviously it was quite high level of offending.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, I'll get a bit I'll get into

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Speaker 1: a bit more of that youth offending shortly before I

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Speaker 1: go there. Though, I know police have been doing a

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Speaker 1: doing a lot around antisocial behavior as well, quite a

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Speaker 1: bit over the last couple of weeks. What have your

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I'm a man of simple means here and I

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Speaker 2: like to keep it really simple. So in essence, if

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Speaker 2: you see you deal with it. So if there's drunks,

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Speaker 2: you deal them. If there's any social behavior, you deal

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Speaker 2: it's really just as I said before, we're going across Darwin, Parmestan,

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Speaker 2: anybody who thinks that they can either carry on or

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Speaker 2: anybody who gets drunk in a public place and wants

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Speaker 2: to carry on, I'm very happy to deal with them

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Speaker 2: and go from there. So just in terms of some

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Speaker 2: so that's about nineteen days I think so far. So

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Speaker 2: there's been sixteen hundred and seventy five letters tipped out,

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Speaker 2: forty six arrests, fifty four people arrested for protective custody,

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Speaker 2: and two hundred and thirty seven people have been given

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Speaker 2: band drinking orders. So again, you know, like a bit

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Speaker 2: of a hard task master, and I'm not apologetic for

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Speaker 2: our response in this, to be honest, but we need

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Speaker 2: to keep it going and we'll continue to keep it

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Speaker 2: going well.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I mean like the fact that did you

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Speaker 1: say sixteen hundred and seventy five liters of alcohol tipped

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Speaker 1: out correct? Around what area? Just around Darwin and Palmerstown on.

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Speaker 2: Palmerston case, it's great. A Darlin Darnet Palmerston, cas Aina.

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Speaker 1: That's a heck of a lot of alcohol being consumed

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, And we're dealing with, you know, people who

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Speaker 2: are seasoned drinkers and the like as well, so they

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Speaker 2: tend to move and you've you've got to be agile

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Speaker 2: so if you know, sometimes you'll find it's in one

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Speaker 2: matter of moving around and targeting it. But the good

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Speaker 1: Sean, do you have any like do you sort of

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Speaker 1: know whether they you know, whether it's locals that are

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Speaker 1: is at the moment, Oh.

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Speaker 2: Look at it. It'd be hard for me to say

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Speaker 2: on that one. I think there's there's a number of

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Speaker 2: factors at play. You're loath to say specifically which one.

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Speaker 1: Of the When you look at the volume of alcohol

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Speaker 1: then that's been tipped out two hundred and thirty seven

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Speaker 1: people then placed on the bedo just since the thirtieth

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Speaker 1: What kind of impact do you reckon that has sort

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Speaker 2: Look, and this is exactly why I did it, and

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Speaker 2: this is exactly why I wanted to do it. You know,

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Speaker 2: there's plenty of anecdotal evidence to say that, you know,

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Speaker 2: these are the drivers of domestic violence, assaults and the

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Speaker 2: like as well. I think we're a bit early to

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Speaker 2: I'm a bit loath to say that we're there yet.

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Speaker 2: And it's really just maintaining the rage on this for

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Speaker 2: it's continuing. It's going really really well bad in my view.

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Speaker 1: To start, when you do place, you know, that volume

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Speaker 1: still accessing or trying to access alcohol from those secondary

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, So that's that is always part of our planning process,

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Speaker 2: you know, like you can ban people, then we can

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Speaker 2: if we find them, we deal with them. Yeah, pretty

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Speaker 2: hard at them. Probably good time to note too. I

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Speaker 2: You know, they want to know what we're doing, and

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Speaker 2: they said, one of them said, we're all in this together.

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Speaker 2: So you know, it's really pleasing to see. And there's

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Speaker 2: simple saying for this, but I'll yeah, there's three things

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Speaker 2: keep it going. So there are three things.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to do here well, and that's the thing,

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Speaker 1: like if you're consistent about it as well, then people

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Speaker 1: The police aren't going to put up with it. They're

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Speaker 1: So hopefully it means that it stops happening.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I was saying, we'll continue to go with this,

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Speaker 2: and there's no intentions of me. It's slowing down and

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty relentless for those you know.

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Speaker 1: Me, and yeah, we'll keep on it well, And I'm

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Speaker 1: bad offending by really young people. You know. In Palmerston

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Speaker 1: they entered a bottle shop in Leanna, then threatened an

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Speaker 1: they allegedly stopped a vehicle on a grassland crescent in Leanna.

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Speaker 1: I found out that they were doing something like that.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely insane. You can't sugarcoat that level of offending, you know,

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Speaker 2: I can't sit here and say it's a great thing

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Speaker 2: that the positive is. I suppose that the people have

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Speaker 2: of the curve and this type of thing and target it.

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Speaker 2: There is a lot of work going on with regards

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Speaker 2: to wanding operations as well, so that's one of the drivers.

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Speaker 2: You know, people with access to weapons and the like.

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Speaker 2: I know that Palmerston in general do a wanting operation

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Speaker 2: once a week There was wanting approval in Darwin and

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Speaker 2: Casu Arena over the weekend. I just don't have the

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Speaker 2: stats in front of It's all right, and that's also

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Speaker 2: tiding with some of this antisocial behavior that's part of

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Speaker 2: their roles and responsibility. So what people can expect is

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Speaker 2: there will be wanting operations. We will be doing it, yeah, randomly.

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Speaker 2: As I said, I'm unapologetic for it. And we just

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Speaker 2: need to do this because you know, the level of

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Speaker 2: ending when you're producing any form of weapon is scary

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Speaker 2: and yet you know we're all members of the public

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Speaker 2: here and be scary for anybody to be confronted with that.

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Speaker 1: Well, the thing that frightens me is even with that

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Speaker 1: situation where then you've got you know, these really young

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Speaker 1: a female driver you know, with that knife allegedly like

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Speaker 1: all the things that can go wrong, and like they

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Speaker 1: can ruin their lives by hurting somebody. That might not

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Speaker 1: be their intention to begin with, but it's such a dangerous,

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Speaker 1: dangerous situation. But then what could happen to that woman

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Speaker 1: you know on the receiving end in the vehicle.

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Speaker 2: Oh, look at it. And you know, without going into it,

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Speaker 2: there's been some incidents that have ended quite devastating with

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Speaker 2: and it doesn't take much and to use any sorm

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Speaker 2: of edge weapon, you know, to commit some sort of crime. Say,

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Speaker 2: I don't have any sympathy for him in terms of

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Speaker 2: when they're arrested in their life as well, and whatever

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Speaker 2: we can do to keep them in custody and keep

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Speaker 2: them behind we will. Saying it's there's a hard response,

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Speaker 2: but also there's a lot of work to be done

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Speaker 2: in terms of the prevention space. And that's where the

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Speaker 2: winding operations come in. You keep targeting, keep keep keep

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Speaker 2: it going.

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, well that's exactly right. We have to

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Speaker 1: and I mean the ages of some of those kids. Gee,

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Speaker 1: you just scratch your head, don't you.

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Speaker 2: Oh, exactly and we're all parents have kids here. It's

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Speaker 2: just it's not something my kid has ever done like,

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Speaker 2: and there's plenty of reasons why we into but it's

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Speaker 2: just something we can't tolerate. We really can't.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right. Well, Sean gil, commander of the Darwin

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Speaker 1: Region for the Northern Territory Police, really appreciate your time

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Speaker 1: this morning. Thanks so much for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Codie,