WEBVTT - You think this is a weakness but it’s actually a superpower… 😮‍💨 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.520 Tions to land see and community. We pay our respect 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:07.120 to their elders past and present, and extend that respect 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:20.239 to all Aboriginal and terrest Raid Islander peoples today. Hello 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:23.920 and welcome back to the Rise and Conquer Podcast. This 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:26.680 is the podcast for ordinary people who want to do 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:42.040 extraordinary things. Hello and welcome back to the Rising Conker Podcast. 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:46.560 It is your host, Georgie Stevenson, lawyer turned to entrepreneur, 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:52.479 business owner, new mum wife, all the things. Honestly forget 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:57.200 my intro every time. Guys, welcome back to the show. 0:00:57.400 --> 0:01:01.840 I have a very exciting episode for you. We are 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:06.240 chatting one of the things that it gets me every time, guys, 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:09.039 and I feel like you're going to resonate with this topic. 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:12.760 But before we get into it, a little recap. I 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:17.640 had a lovely relaxing weekend. I actually had such a 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:22.520 stressful week last week. Last week was huge, guys. Poor 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:27.240 Atia was staying back late every afternoon, slave drive and away. 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:28.640 I've had my whip out. 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:32.600 No, we just have had a lot on so I 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:35.920 feel like my weekly updates are always about work. But 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:40.200 I oh, I had I told you guys about my 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:44.200 pedal and pop collection. That is actually launching if you're 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:47.960 listening to this in real time tomorrow the fifteenth of 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:52.360 June is my Postcards by Georgie winter collection with pedal 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:56.840 and pup. Very cute. You know my style. She's comfy, 0:01:57.200 --> 0:02:01.320 she's versatile, and you'll wear these pieces for seasons to come. 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:04.600 So if you do need a bit of a winter wardrobe, 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:06.600 a refresh makes you go check that out. 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:08.000 And then also. 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:12.240 Last week we announced that we have a brand new 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:16.160 dessert range happening at Naked Harvest. So this is something 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:20.519 we've been working on for yolks, honestly so long to 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:26.600 perfect a like healthy dessert, especially because in n hah, 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:31.080 we're really really strict on gluten free, dairy free, vegan, refined, 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:35.200 sugar free, all those things, while still having added benefits 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:38.280 that you know with stress and helping you sleep. And 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:42.040 then it's got to taste good. We go through lots 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:45.480 of samples and it's it's a big process, but we 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:48.760 have got here. We're so proud. We are releasing a 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:53.800 mug cake and moose. I think that goes live on Thursday. 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:56.919 Oh my god, my brain, guys, my brain, So yeah, 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:01.120 like all that was happening and so I really really 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:04.800 deserved a little relaxing we can and honestly didn't do 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:08.400 too much, just spend time with little Slivy and Tim. 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:13.000 I mean Ivy. Oh my god, I call her Slivey. 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:15.519 That's like an at home nickname. You guys probably think, 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:18.040 what did she just say? But it was good, it 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:21.080 was well needed. But I'm so excited about this episode. 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:31.640 Let's get straight into it all right, guys, today we 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:34.480 are chatting imposter syndrome. 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:35.640 What is it? 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:38.920 What does it mean about you? What does it mean 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:42.760 in that situation? And how we can not get rid 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:45.520 of it? Because I think imposter syndrome is healthy. An 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:49.920 give me a little snoppet there, but how we can 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:54.040 process it? That's so interesting. He's like, what are we 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:59.240 talking about? I'm like healthy, No, I think it's really healthy. 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:04.080 But first, what is imposter syndrome? So, guys, Imposter syndrome 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:09.600 is basically when you feel like a fraud or a 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:14.480 you know, imposta, or you feel not good enough or 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:18.080 very out of your comfort zone when you were doing 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:22.320 something new. And I feel like I have felt this 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:27.640 basically every time that I have done something new, and 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:32.159 I feel like it's like this feeling of who am 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:36.000 I to do this? Almost like I'm not qualified to 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:36.440 do this? 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:37.200 Yes? 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:41.400 Is that how you would explain a post syndrome a dog? 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:50.400 Before we started tear out tooth so smooth, guys, before 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:52.800 we started recording, I said, to a tear, let's give 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:56.000 you a nickname. I want to call you like a tear. 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:59.960 You can call me g okay or georsh. What if 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:04.119 you prefer what should we call a tear? Guys? Come, Actually, 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:05.560 let's put something on our stories. 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:08.039 I always go and they called me tee tow. 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:15.359 No, that's a rudfic. We're not going t toowl like 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:17.320 they just couldn't say your name properly. I don't know 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:19.799 if we just landed up on te tail. A tear 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:22.680 is a beautiful name, though, so maybe we just keep it. 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:25.680 But if you guys have a great nickname for a tear, 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:29.440 come to the story. Not a dog. I love a dog. 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:32.440 It makes you sound like you do rap or something. 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:33.719 Do rap? 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:37.839 You know what? I often do? Though, I call people 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:42.080 by their first name, like, for example, my partnership's manager, Jacinta, 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:45.000 I call her j And it's still to this day. 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:47.320 Every time I go, oh, Jay said this Cooper goes, 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:51.120 who's J And I'm like jcinta. I've called her Jay 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:55.039 the whole time. I love that, So we could call 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:57.480 you A that's like pretty little liar vibes. 0:05:57.760 --> 0:05:59.880 Oh yeah, you know A Yeah? 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:02.839 All right, I kind of like a butt. Come to 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:05.159 our stories. We're going to put a little questions thingy. 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:07.799 Let's give it to your nickname and be a nickname, 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:09.520 all right. 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:09.840 A dog? 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:16.800 Until then, what would you say? Imposter syndrome is or 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:17.400 feels like. 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:21.680 Almost uncomfort but worse because I feel like you can 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:25.760 get it confused with just being uncomfortable because it does 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:27.800 happen out of your comfort zone. But I think it's 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:30.560 a lot worse than just being a little bit uncomfortable, 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:34.520 and it really comes down to you questioning who you 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:37.479 are and almost like how do I even have the 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:38.600 right to be doing this? 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:39.440 Yes? 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:42.520 Why why are people listening to me? Kind of thing? 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:45.680 I think I agreed, because I think it's more than 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:49.000 just being uncomfortable and being out of your comfort zone. 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:52.760 It's also the like you said, like I don't have 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:57.000 the qualifications to be here, or I don't deserve a 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:57.760 seat at this. 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:00.400 Table, exactly like you feel a bit like a fraud, 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:02.320 Like you're like, I'm cheating everyone. 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:05.800 Yes, that is sitting around me by being here one 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:09.039 hundred percent. And this has actually come up recently for 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:11.480 me and I wanted to do an episode on it, 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:15.360 and it's come up for me because as you guys 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:17.960 probably have seen on my socials if you don't know, 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:21.360 I'm doing another collab with Pedal and Pup. 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:27.600 Wow, I love it. The clothes are so cute. What 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:30.119 is that was like a sound effect that it was you? 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:33.320 I feel like like. 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:36.080 The applaud hand ready, guys, I hope I got the 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:44.200 right button. Great, thanks a dog. So my Pedal and 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:48.280 Pup collection is going live tomorrow if you're listening to 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:54.080 this when this potty goes live. And I filmed, not filmed. 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:56.200 I did the photo shoot for this a couple of 0:07:56.240 --> 0:08:01.360 weeks ago, and yes, just quickly. The color is so beautiful, guys. 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:04.680 And it's a winter collection that's very much inspired by 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:09.640 the winter locations that I dream about visiting. So you 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:12.840 guys know, well maybe you don't, but me and Tim 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:17.480 had this really amazing Europe trip booked right literally by 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:20.160 you Si. Yeah, and then we didn't get to go 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:22.840 because of COVID and then. 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:25.960 We have a child now, so there goes that. 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:29.200 Honestly, it's probably not going to be on the cards 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:31.800 for years until Ivy Girl is a bit older. But 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:36.320 like I just I love overseas winter locations, like so 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:41.239 in the collection there's names like Aspen and like Colorado 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:44.880 and yeah, so just beautiful winter locations and it's called 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:49.800 Postcards by Georgie and basically just all the locations I 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:53.400 want to go winter. But it's a winter collection, and 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:57.120 it is a mini collection, so there's only about way 0:08:57.160 --> 0:09:00.559 say mini, but there's like fucking fourteen pieces. Anyway, if 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:02.840 you don't know what I am talking about, go to 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:05.240 my socials. I have so many social posts on that 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:08.080 and I'm so bloody excited. But anyway, it goes live tomorrow. 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:11.400 And we did the photo shoot three weeks ago, and 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.720 as we were driving up the driveway to this beautiful 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:18.240 house we were shooting at, I had my EA Ellie 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:20.240 in the car because she was doing content for me 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:23.880 that day, and she's like, how do you feel. Actually 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:26.760 we were like driving this so we weren't even driving up 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:29.200 the driveway yet, and she's like, how do you feel? 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:33.440 And I was like I feel so nervous, Like I 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:35.920 felt so nervous, I felt sick, and I just said 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:38.920 to her, I don't know, like like who am I 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:42.320 just feel like who am I to be doing a 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:46.559 fashion collection? Like I just felt so out of my bounds? 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:49.160 And I said to her, So I have done a 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:52.120 collection with Pedal and Pup, But for some reason in 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:54.839 my head, I made up this story that Pedal and 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:57.920 Pup wanted to do it with me because I was pregnant, 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:00.920 so it was like a bump friendly colle and I 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:03.880 really made the story up in my head that it's like, well, 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:08.280 they chose me because there was very limited people pregnant. 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:14.960 There were my dog, g dog. There wasn't many people 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:18.160 to pick from, so of course, you know, picked me, 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:21.280 and so I don't know, I kind of put that 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:24.320 collection as like, oh yeah, like I was one of 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:27.400 the very limited people pregnant at that time, and I'd 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:29.120 worked in part for a very long time and we 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:31.800 had a great relationship, so it made sense. But that 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:34.199 was the only reason why they picked me. So when 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:38.480 they wanted to do a second collection with me, not pregnant, 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:44.800 just you just for me, I just felt so like undeserving. 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:48.520 So I note, I do love your style though, thank 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:49.040 you are Tea. 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:51.440 And well that's another big thing too, is like I 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:56.360 wouldn't say I'm a fashion influencer, Like people would not 0:10:56.400 --> 0:11:00.200 come to my page for my style. Like I think 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:03.960 I inject a lot of fashion in my socials because 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:06.840 I love fashion. Yeah, and I wouldn't even say I 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:11.400 have like the most standout style, Like I love basic things. 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:14.720 I love things that you can wear over seasons, that 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:18.240 are sustainable. Yeah, you know, my vibe has very much 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:22.080 changed as I've become a mum. And yeah, so like 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:25.160 there was this huge part of me. I was driving 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:28.000 there and because I've been on a photo shoot with 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:31.400 them before and there's like fifteen people. It's hair and maker, 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:34.800 there's models, like you know the location when we shot, 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:38.280 I just know it's like next level, and I just 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:40.760 I felt like, oh my god, everyone's here for me. 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:43.360 They want to do a collection for me, and I 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:48.560 just felt so unworthy. So like I literally thought, oh 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:49.760 my god, we're going to do the shoot and they're 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:55.520 gonna be disappointed with me. I know, its a syndrome, sucks, 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:58.679 I know, but it was so ridiculous. And then Ellie 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:00.439 kind of said the same thing, and she was like, 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:05.760 what are you talking And she said, She's like, I 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:09.920 actually love that you said this because I think as 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:13.280 an outsider looking in, I would have never thought you 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:13.959 felt like this. 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:16.839 No, never would have guessed no. 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:18.719 And I and I think that's why I wanted to 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:22.160 speak about it, because it is so normal and even 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:25.160 someone like me who has literally done a collection, who 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:28.680 has done this thing before, like I, all. 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:29.760 Of a sudden, it just hit you. 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:32.319 Yeah, and it can hit you at really random times. 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:35.319 And so I literally had to like put some hype 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:39.040 music on and like pep talk myself and be like, yeah, 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:41.520 like how fucking dare you say those things when you've 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:44.679 worked so hard? And yeah, maybe you're not like a 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:48.840 fashion icon, but you have a style and you know, 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:52.240 people obviously enjoy that style. Otherwise your first collection wouldn't 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:54.520 have sold out. And you know, I had to, you know, 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:59.680 pet myself up. And the hard thing is imposter syndrome, 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:04.400 like it always it always comes back. And you would think, 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:08.640 by the time you have accomplished so many things, or 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:11.880 you know, got to a certain level in your career, 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:15.200 in your family life and anything, you would think, oh, 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:17.200 but by the time I get there, I'm not going 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:18.800 to feel these feelings. 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:21.120 Because I'll know I'm worth it because I'll Yeah. 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:25.200 But the hard truth is it always comes up, and 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:28.800 for me, it's always when I'm about to go to 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:33.280 the next level or achieve something pretty great that imposter 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:38.600 syndrome seeps in and confronts me. So that's why I 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:41.880 said at the start a tea that's like, it's actually 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:45.120 a little bit healthy, because I think it's like I 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:49.880 now can understand it and kind of get it before 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:53.640 it cripples me and go, fuck, I must be going 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:56.440 to the next level. Fuck, this must be really great. 0:13:56.760 --> 0:14:01.560 Otherwise I wouldn't feel like this. Yes, I've definitely felt 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:05.680 like this numerous times in my life. So I really 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:09.160 felt like this when we were starting Naked Harvest because 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:13.400 again I was like, who am I to start a business? 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:16.720 You know, I'm an influencer. I don't start businesses. I 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:19.480 work with businesses. Who am I to start a business? 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:22.840 And I think it's when you put yourself in a 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:27.440 certain box and you give yourself like a label, a label, 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:30.280 and you give yourself like I'm an influencer, I'm this. 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:33.240 I'm like I just said, I'm not a fashion icon. 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:37.160 I'm not a fashion influencer, Like why am I doing this? 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:41.000 And I think when we can stop labeling ourselves and 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:43.760 kind of strip it back, and I think, like lean 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:48.120 into this idea that we are always evolving. This is 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:50.360 I'm about to go off on a ramp. But do 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:54.360 you guys remember back in the day, and like, do 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:58.000 you remember back in the day where influencers would like 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:01.840 jump on their stories and say they wanted to pivot 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:06.040 and do something different and almost have to apologize for it. 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:07.760 And the only reason why I bring it up is 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:09.960 because I did this, did you? 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:10.400 So? 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:11.000 Yeah? 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:14.560 When I was so a lot of people, I really 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:18.560 leaned into the like I'm, you know, a law student, 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:20.720 I'm going to be a lawyer. So a lot of 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:22.720 my youtubes it was like day in the life of 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:26.320 a law grad and everyone kind of knew me as 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:29.880 this like fitness and health girl, who was you know, 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:31.200 going to be a lawyer. 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:34.960 And very career, very balance it with your health kind 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:35.720 of yes. 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:38.120 And so I also had a lot of people give 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:41.080 me feedback of oh, I love following you because you 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:43.680 actually have a career and you actually have a job. 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:46.280 You're not just an influencer. Doing fitness health, who's got 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:48.800 all the time in the world, and like, yeah, all 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:53.200 these certain things that I then took their you know, 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:55.760 comments and feedback and then put myself in the box 0:15:55.800 --> 0:16:00.000 of I am this certain person. So when I actually 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:02.960 wanted to quit my job as a you know, family lawyer, 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:05.960 and I wanted to go off and do something else, 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:10.200 I literally put a YouTube I think on IGTV, like 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:14.040 I could go back and find it, basically being like, hey, guys, 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:16.240 I know I just finished my law degree. I know, 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:19.680 blah blah blah, I actually don't want to do law. 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:21.840 I want to do this. And it's like this weird 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:27.320 apology video that I did because I felt so accountable 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:30.200 to them. Yeah, and I felt so bad for evolving, 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:32.040 and like how weird is that? 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:35.760 It is so weird? And I feel like people do 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:38.840 that to others around them too. Yes, Like obviously yours 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:40.680 was on a way bigger scale because you had a 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:45.040 following that you needed to in quotation marks apologize to 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:49.640 for changing. But people who do that anyway, like if 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:51.920 you're quitting a job and you're telling your friends like 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:55.920 I'm changing industries or like it's this whole thing where 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:59.200 where it's a bigger deal than it should be. Almost. 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:01.440 It's not just like like, oh, I've got this new job, 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:02.400 I'm super excited. 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:05.800 Yes, And I think it really is that old mentality 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:09.920 where straight out of school you pick what you're going 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:10.520 to do. 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:12.600 For the rest of your life. 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:15.440 I know, do you remember feeling that pressure in grade 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:16.399 eleven or twelve? 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:18.639 But you know it was weird. I just got told 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:20.880 in like grade eight, oh, you should be an engineer. 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:22.080 Oh my god, is that white? 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:24.359 Why did you? I was thirteen and they were like, 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:28.919 you're you're really good at science and maths, and you 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:32.119 seem to enjoy it. I would recommend this and that 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:34.520 I carried that. 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:37.320 I'm just laughing because I got told I should be 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:44.280 an actor, like she's dumb as dog shit, but she's 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:50.800 so dramatic. Look at me now, bitches. I'm sorry. I 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:51.600 totally in troubled. 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:54.800 You good and yeah, so you I carried that from 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:56.080 thirteen to now. 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:01.960 I still want to be an engineer. I was trying 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:03.080 to say, I didn't think you were. 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:06.160 No, I I've converted it to a minor guy. 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:11.080 Good to know, thanks idea, yeah, thanks, I dog yeah, 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:14.640 but one hundred percent, like we are told you're good 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:17.120 at this, You're good at that. You should be this. 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:18.119 This is what you're going to do. 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:20.240 This is your one path, and this is what you're 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:22.320 going to do for the rest of your life. And 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:25.800 you better love it or like, I don't care if 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:27.119 you don't love it, You're going to do it. 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:28.879 You're not making money. 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:31.560 Yeah, that was very much like my dad's approach too, 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:36.159 And I think you you really, you get swayed. You 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:39.600 get swayed by this, and I think that's why there's 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:43.720 this weird thing that if you are doing something that's 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:46.840 not only out of your comfort zone, but maybe in 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:49.880 a different industry or maybe if you're pivoting or you're 0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:53.800 doing something new, we get this weird feeling of like 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:55.240 who am I to. 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:58.960 Do this exactly? And especially when things aren't a job 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:00.480 your parents would unders stand. 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:04.840 Yes, that's like me and Mel were saying the other day. 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:08.880 She's like, I don't think my parents even still now 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:12.439 understand what I do. And oh my god. It was 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:15.760 so sweet. So her dad came to the warehouse and 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:18.879 he was like, oh my like he was first of 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:21.800 all quite shocked with like how big it was, and 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:24.119 that like, you know, Mel had this whole team under her, 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:26.520 and he was like, oh, Mel, this is so this 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:30.680 is so good like I did, and like Mel's like, yeah, 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:32.920 this is my job, like I'm a boss ass bitch 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:36.639 and you could tell like he just didn't understand. He 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:38.840 didn't understand. And then I think it was really great 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:41.000 for him because he saw it was like actually a 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:44.520 physical company, you know, like yeah, it's a warehouse and 0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:47.560 there's products and and didn't touch it and see it. 0:19:47.640 --> 0:19:49.320 You can touch and see it. But I think often, 0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:51.639 like you know, a job as an influencer or social 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:55.439 social media, like people just don't understand and they don't 0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:57.160 think it's even anything. 0:19:57.440 --> 0:19:59.440 Even when I told people I was coming to work 0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:04.240 at a pot They're like full time, what do you mean? 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:07.760 And I was like, yeah, that's like three of us 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:13.600 I know. And yes, and the podcast makes money. Yeah, 0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:16.320 oh my god. This is such like a random side note, guys, 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:18.959 but can I just say, if you're someone who listens 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:22.439 to this potty and you don't skip the ads, thank you, 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:27.320 because that's how a tea gets paid. Like, if you 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:30.639 think about it, you guys get hours of free content 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:33.040 and it's you've just got to listen to a little ad, 0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:38.359 so please don't skip me ideas like please, And so 0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:43.680 I think this whole episode like, let's normalize this imposter 0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:47.240 syndrome because I think we're all going to feel like 0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:51.280 it and it doesn't actually matter how qualified you are, 0:20:52.040 --> 0:20:55.040 you're going to feel it like regardless, and I think 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:57.200 that's even it. Like I did a whole law degree 0:20:57.560 --> 0:21:00.480 and then you know, when I got my law grind position, 0:21:00.560 --> 0:21:02.560 I was like, oh my god, who am I to 0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:07.399 do this like this? And like it's it's ridiculous and 0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:11.000 honestly logically doesn't make a lot of sense, but when 0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:14.160 it does it ever, Yeah, exactly. Do you have any 0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:16.720 examples of when you felt on poster syndrometeria. 0:21:17.000 --> 0:21:19.479 Yeah, I've been thinking about it a lot, and I 0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:22.280 think it happened. And it's such a weird thing because 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:25.359 you forget when you felt that way after you've moved 0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:28.720 past it. Yeah, but I think when I applied for 0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:34.640 this job, I felt it quite a bit because I obviously. 0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:39.240 You I have no idea about podcast you're like for 0:21:39.440 --> 0:21:44.680 the tech person at R and C. Now, literally like 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:48.680 I listened to podcasts and I loved them, but back 0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:51.840 end didn't have much knowledge just to can't do attitude 0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:55.760 and even just like being in a completely different industry 0:21:55.800 --> 0:21:58.680 to what I was in, because I obviously had transferable 0:21:58.760 --> 0:22:01.600 skills and that is what I just had to keep 0:22:01.640 --> 0:22:05.840 reiterating to myself when actually making this application. But obviously 0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:07.520 a lot of those thoughts came in where it was 0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:09.760 like who am I to turn around and be like 0:22:09.960 --> 0:22:13.600 I'm the right person for your podcast? And even like 0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:16.320 sometimes helping on episodes, I feel it a little bit 0:22:16.320 --> 0:22:18.199 because I'm like, why would people want to listen to 0:22:18.240 --> 0:22:19.120 what I have to say? 0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:19.800 Kind of thing? 0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:24.080 Yes, oh my god, that's so interesting. Yeah, and that 0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:27.080 makes sense. But to me, like when I think of 0:22:27.119 --> 0:22:30.000 your interview, you literally walked in the room and I 0:22:30.040 --> 0:22:32.399 knew straightaway that you were right for the position. You 0:22:32.440 --> 0:22:34.240