1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Tions to land see and community. We pay our respect 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: to their elders past and present, and extend that respect 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: to all Aboriginal and terrest Raid Islander peoples today. Hello 4 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: and welcome back to the Rise and Conquer Podcast. This 5 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: is the podcast for ordinary people who want to do 6 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: extraordinary things. Hello and welcome back to the Rising Conker Podcast. 7 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: It is your host, Georgie Stevenson, lawyer turned to entrepreneur, 8 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: business owner, new mum wife, all the things. Honestly forget 9 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: my intro every time. Guys, welcome back to the show. 10 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: I have a very exciting episode for you. We are 11 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: chatting one of the things that it gets me every time, guys, 12 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: and I feel like you're going to resonate with this topic. 13 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: But before we get into it, a little recap. I 14 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: had a lovely relaxing weekend. I actually had such a 15 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: stressful week last week. Last week was huge, guys. Poor 16 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: Atia was staying back late every afternoon, slave drive and away. 17 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: I've had my whip out. 18 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: No, we just have had a lot on so I 19 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: feel like my weekly updates are always about work. But 20 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: I oh, I had I told you guys about my 21 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: pedal and pop collection. That is actually launching if you're 22 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: listening to this in real time tomorrow the fifteenth of 23 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: June is my Postcards by Georgie winter collection with pedal 24 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: and pup. Very cute. You know my style. She's comfy, 25 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: she's versatile, and you'll wear these pieces for seasons to come. 26 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: So if you do need a bit of a winter wardrobe, 27 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: a refresh makes you go check that out. 28 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: And then also. 29 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: Last week we announced that we have a brand new 30 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: dessert range happening at Naked Harvest. So this is something 31 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 1: we've been working on for yolks, honestly so long to 32 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: perfect a like healthy dessert, especially because in n hah, 33 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: we're really really strict on gluten free, dairy free, vegan, refined, 34 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: sugar free, all those things, while still having added benefits 35 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: that you know with stress and helping you sleep. And 36 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: then it's got to taste good. We go through lots 37 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: of samples and it's it's a big process, but we 38 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: have got here. We're so proud. We are releasing a 39 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: mug cake and moose. I think that goes live on Thursday. 40 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: Oh my god, my brain, guys, my brain, So yeah, 41 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: like all that was happening and so I really really 42 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: deserved a little relaxing we can and honestly didn't do 43 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: too much, just spend time with little Slivy and Tim. 44 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: I mean Ivy. Oh my god, I call her Slivey. 45 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 1: That's like an at home nickname. You guys probably think, 46 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: what did she just say? But it was good, it 47 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: was well needed. But I'm so excited about this episode. 48 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: Let's get straight into it all right, guys, today we 49 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: are chatting imposter syndrome. 50 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: What is it? 51 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: What does it mean about you? What does it mean 52 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: in that situation? And how we can not get rid 53 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: of it? Because I think imposter syndrome is healthy. An 54 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: give me a little snoppet there, but how we can 55 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: process it? That's so interesting. He's like, what are we 56 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: talking about? I'm like healthy, No, I think it's really healthy. 57 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: But first, what is imposter syndrome? So, guys, Imposter syndrome 58 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: is basically when you feel like a fraud or a 59 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: you know, imposta, or you feel not good enough or 60 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: very out of your comfort zone when you were doing 61 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: something new. And I feel like I have felt this 62 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: basically every time that I have done something new, and 63 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: I feel like it's like this feeling of who am 64 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: I to do this? Almost like I'm not qualified to 65 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: do this? 66 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: Yes? 67 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: Is that how you would explain a post syndrome a dog? 68 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: Before we started tear out tooth so smooth, guys, before 69 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: we started recording, I said, to a tear, let's give 70 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: you a nickname. I want to call you like a tear. 71 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: You can call me g okay or georsh. What if 72 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,119 Speaker 1: you prefer what should we call a tear? Guys? Come, Actually, 73 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: let's put something on our stories. 74 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 2: I always go and they called me tee tow. 75 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 1: No, that's a rudfic. We're not going t toowl like 76 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: they just couldn't say your name properly. I don't know 77 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,799 Speaker 1: if we just landed up on te tail. A tear 78 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: is a beautiful name, though, so maybe we just keep it. 79 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: But if you guys have a great nickname for a tear, 80 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: come to the story. Not a dog. I love a dog. 81 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: It makes you sound like you do rap or something. 82 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 2: Do rap? 83 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: You know what? I often do? Though, I call people 84 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: by their first name, like, for example, my partnership's manager, Jacinta, 85 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: I call her j And it's still to this day. 86 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: Every time I go, oh, Jay said this Cooper goes, 87 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: who's J And I'm like jcinta. I've called her Jay 88 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: the whole time. I love that, So we could call 89 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: you A that's like pretty little liar vibes. 90 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know A Yeah? 91 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: All right, I kind of like a butt. Come to 92 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: our stories. We're going to put a little questions thingy. 93 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,799 Speaker 1: Let's give it to your nickname and be a nickname, 94 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: all right. 95 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 2: A dog? 96 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: Until then, what would you say? Imposter syndrome is or 97 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: feels like. 98 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: Almost uncomfort but worse because I feel like you can 99 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 2: get it confused with just being uncomfortable because it does 100 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: happen out of your comfort zone. But I think it's 101 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 2: a lot worse than just being a little bit uncomfortable, 102 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 2: and it really comes down to you questioning who you 103 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 2: are and almost like how do I even have the 104 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 2: right to be doing this? 105 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: Yes? 106 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: Why why are people listening to me? Kind of thing? 107 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: I think I agreed, because I think it's more than 108 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: just being uncomfortable and being out of your comfort zone. 109 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: It's also the like you said, like I don't have 110 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: the qualifications to be here, or I don't deserve a 111 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: seat at this. 112 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: Table, exactly like you feel a bit like a fraud, 113 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: Like you're like, I'm cheating everyone. 114 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: Yes, that is sitting around me by being here one 115 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: hundred percent. And this has actually come up recently for 116 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: me and I wanted to do an episode on it, 117 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: and it's come up for me because as you guys 118 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: probably have seen on my socials if you don't know, 119 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: I'm doing another collab with Pedal and Pup. 120 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: Wow, I love it. The clothes are so cute. What 121 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,119 Speaker 2: is that was like a sound effect that it was you? 122 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 2: I feel like like. 123 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: The applaud hand ready, guys, I hope I got the 124 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: right button. Great, thanks a dog. So my Pedal and 125 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: Pup collection is going live tomorrow if you're listening to 126 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: this when this potty goes live. And I filmed, not filmed. 127 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: I did the photo shoot for this a couple of 128 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: weeks ago, and yes, just quickly. The color is so beautiful, guys. 129 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: And it's a winter collection that's very much inspired by 130 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: the winter locations that I dream about visiting. So you 131 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: guys know, well maybe you don't, but me and Tim 132 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: had this really amazing Europe trip booked right literally by 133 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: you Si. Yeah, and then we didn't get to go 134 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: because of COVID and then. 135 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: We have a child now, so there goes that. 136 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: Honestly, it's probably not going to be on the cards 137 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: for years until Ivy Girl is a bit older. But 138 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: like I just I love overseas winter locations, like so 139 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:41,239 Speaker 1: in the collection there's names like Aspen and like Colorado 140 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: and yeah, so just beautiful winter locations and it's called 141 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: Postcards by Georgie and basically just all the locations I 142 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: want to go winter. But it's a winter collection, and 143 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: it is a mini collection, so there's only about way 144 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 1: say mini, but there's like fucking fourteen pieces. Anyway, if 145 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: you don't know what I am talking about, go to 146 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: my socials. I have so many social posts on that 147 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: and I'm so bloody excited. But anyway, it goes live tomorrow. 148 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: And we did the photo shoot three weeks ago, and 149 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: as we were driving up the driveway to this beautiful 150 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: house we were shooting at, I had my EA Ellie 151 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: in the car because she was doing content for me 152 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: that day, and she's like, how do you feel. Actually 153 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: we were like driving this so we weren't even driving up 154 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: the driveway yet, and she's like, how do you feel? 155 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: And I was like I feel so nervous, Like I 156 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: felt so nervous, I felt sick, and I just said 157 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: to her, I don't know, like like who am I 158 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: just feel like who am I to be doing a 159 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 1: fashion collection? Like I just felt so out of my bounds? 160 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: And I said to her, So I have done a 161 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: collection with Pedal and Pup, But for some reason in 162 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 1: my head, I made up this story that Pedal and 163 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: Pup wanted to do it with me because I was pregnant, 164 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: so it was like a bump friendly colle and I 165 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: really made the story up in my head that it's like, well, 166 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: they chose me because there was very limited people pregnant. 167 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: There were my dog, g dog. There wasn't many people 168 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: to pick from, so of course, you know, picked me, 169 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: and so I don't know, I kind of put that 170 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: collection as like, oh yeah, like I was one of 171 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: the very limited people pregnant at that time, and I'd 172 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: worked in part for a very long time and we 173 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: had a great relationship, so it made sense. But that 174 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: was the only reason why they picked me. So when 175 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: they wanted to do a second collection with me, not pregnant, 176 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: just you just for me, I just felt so like undeserving. 177 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 2: So I note, I do love your style though, thank 178 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: you are Tea. 179 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: And well that's another big thing too, is like I 180 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: wouldn't say I'm a fashion influencer, Like people would not 181 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: come to my page for my style. Like I think 182 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: I inject a lot of fashion in my socials because 183 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: I love fashion. Yeah, and I wouldn't even say I 184 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: have like the most standout style, Like I love basic things. 185 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: I love things that you can wear over seasons, that 186 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: are sustainable. Yeah, you know, my vibe has very much 187 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: changed as I've become a mum. And yeah, so like 188 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: there was this huge part of me. I was driving 189 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: there and because I've been on a photo shoot with 190 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: them before and there's like fifteen people. It's hair and maker, 191 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: there's models, like you know the location when we shot, 192 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: I just know it's like next level, and I just 193 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: I felt like, oh my god, everyone's here for me. 194 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: They want to do a collection for me, and I 195 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: just felt so unworthy. So like I literally thought, oh 196 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: my god, we're going to do the shoot and they're 197 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: gonna be disappointed with me. I know, its a syndrome, sucks, 198 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: I know, but it was so ridiculous. And then Ellie 199 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: kind of said the same thing, and she was like, 200 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: what are you talking And she said, She's like, I 201 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: actually love that you said this because I think as 202 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: an outsider looking in, I would have never thought you 203 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 1: felt like this. 204 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 2: No, never would have guessed no. 205 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 1: And I and I think that's why I wanted to 206 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: speak about it, because it is so normal and even 207 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: someone like me who has literally done a collection, who 208 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: has done this thing before, like I, all. 209 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: Of a sudden, it just hit you. 210 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it can hit you at really random times. 211 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 1: And so I literally had to like put some hype 212 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: music on and like pep talk myself and be like, yeah, 213 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: like how fucking dare you say those things when you've 214 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: worked so hard? And yeah, maybe you're not like a 215 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: fashion icon, but you have a style and you know, 216 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: people obviously enjoy that style. Otherwise your first collection wouldn't 217 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: have sold out. And you know, I had to, you know, 218 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: pet myself up. And the hard thing is imposter syndrome, 219 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: like it always it always comes back. And you would think, 220 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: by the time you have accomplished so many things, or 221 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: you know, got to a certain level in your career, 222 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: in your family life and anything, you would think, oh, 223 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: but by the time I get there, I'm not going 224 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: to feel these feelings. 225 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 2: Because I'll know I'm worth it because I'll Yeah. 226 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: But the hard truth is it always comes up, and 227 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: for me, it's always when I'm about to go to 228 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: the next level or achieve something pretty great that imposter 229 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: syndrome seeps in and confronts me. So that's why I 230 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: said at the start a tea that's like, it's actually 231 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: a little bit healthy, because I think it's like I 232 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: now can understand it and kind of get it before 233 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: it cripples me and go, fuck, I must be going 234 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: to the next level. Fuck, this must be really great. 235 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: Otherwise I wouldn't feel like this. Yes, I've definitely felt 236 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: like this numerous times in my life. So I really 237 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: felt like this when we were starting Naked Harvest because 238 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: again I was like, who am I to start a business? 239 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: You know, I'm an influencer. I don't start businesses. I 240 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: work with businesses. Who am I to start a business? 241 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: And I think it's when you put yourself in a 242 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: certain box and you give yourself like a label, a label, 243 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: and you give yourself like I'm an influencer, I'm this. 244 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: I'm like I just said, I'm not a fashion icon. 245 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: I'm not a fashion influencer, Like why am I doing this? 246 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: And I think when we can stop labeling ourselves and 247 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: kind of strip it back, and I think, like lean 248 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: into this idea that we are always evolving. This is 249 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: I'm about to go off on a ramp. But do 250 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: you guys remember back in the day, and like, do 251 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: you remember back in the day where influencers would like 252 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: jump on their stories and say they wanted to pivot 253 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: and do something different and almost have to apologize for it. 254 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: And the only reason why I bring it up is 255 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: because I did this, did you? 256 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 3: So? 257 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? 258 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: When I was so a lot of people, I really 259 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: leaned into the like I'm, you know, a law student, 260 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: I'm going to be a lawyer. So a lot of 261 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: my youtubes it was like day in the life of 262 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: a law grad and everyone kind of knew me as 263 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: this like fitness and health girl, who was you know, 264 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: going to be a lawyer. 265 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 2: And very career, very balance it with your health kind 266 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 2: of yes. 267 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: And so I also had a lot of people give 268 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: me feedback of oh, I love following you because you 269 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: actually have a career and you actually have a job. 270 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: You're not just an influencer. Doing fitness health, who's got 271 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: all the time in the world, and like, yeah, all 272 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: these certain things that I then took their you know, 273 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: comments and feedback and then put myself in the box 274 00:15:55,800 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: of I am this certain person. So when I actually 275 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: wanted to quit my job as a you know, family lawyer, 276 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: and I wanted to go off and do something else, 277 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: I literally put a YouTube I think on IGTV, like 278 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: I could go back and find it, basically being like, hey, guys, 279 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: I know I just finished my law degree. I know, 280 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: blah blah blah, I actually don't want to do law. 281 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: I want to do this. And it's like this weird 282 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: apology video that I did because I felt so accountable 283 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: to them. Yeah, and I felt so bad for evolving, 284 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: and like how weird is that? 285 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: It is so weird? And I feel like people do 286 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 2: that to others around them too. Yes, Like obviously yours 287 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: was on a way bigger scale because you had a 288 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 2: following that you needed to in quotation marks apologize to 289 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: for changing. But people who do that anyway, like if 290 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 2: you're quitting a job and you're telling your friends like 291 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 2: I'm changing industries or like it's this whole thing where 292 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: where it's a bigger deal than it should be. Almost. 293 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 2: It's not just like like, oh, I've got this new job, 294 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 2: I'm super excited. 295 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: Yes, And I think it really is that old mentality 296 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: where straight out of school you pick what you're going 297 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: to do. 298 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 2: For the rest of your life. 299 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: I know, do you remember feeling that pressure in grade 300 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: eleven or twelve? 301 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 2: But you know it was weird. I just got told 302 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 2: in like grade eight, oh, you should be an engineer. 303 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: Oh my god, is that white? 304 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 2: Why did you? I was thirteen and they were like, 305 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 2: you're you're really good at science and maths, and you 306 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 2: seem to enjoy it. I would recommend this and that 307 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 2: I carried that. 308 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: I'm just laughing because I got told I should be 309 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: an actor, like she's dumb as dog shit, but she's 310 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: so dramatic. Look at me now, bitches. I'm sorry. I 311 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: totally in troubled. 312 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 2: You good and yeah, so you I carried that from 313 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 2: thirteen to now. 314 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: I still want to be an engineer. I was trying 315 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: to say, I didn't think you were. 316 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 2: No, I I've converted it to a minor guy. 317 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: Good to know, thanks idea, yeah, thanks, I dog yeah, 318 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: but one hundred percent, like we are told you're good 319 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 1: at this, You're good at that. You should be this. 320 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 2: This is what you're going to do. 321 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: This is your one path, and this is what you're 322 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: going to do for the rest of your life. And 323 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: you better love it or like, I don't care if 324 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: you don't love it, You're going to do it. 325 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 2: You're not making money. 326 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was very much like my dad's approach too, 327 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: And I think you you really, you get swayed. You 328 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: get swayed by this, and I think that's why there's 329 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: this weird thing that if you are doing something that's 330 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: not only out of your comfort zone, but maybe in 331 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: a different industry or maybe if you're pivoting or you're 332 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: doing something new, we get this weird feeling of like 333 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: who am I to. 334 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 2: Do this exactly? And especially when things aren't a job 335 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 2: your parents would unders stand. 336 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: Yes, that's like me and Mel were saying the other day. 337 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 1: She's like, I don't think my parents even still now 338 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: understand what I do. And oh my god. It was 339 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: so sweet. So her dad came to the warehouse and 340 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: he was like, oh my like he was first of 341 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: all quite shocked with like how big it was, and 342 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: that like, you know, Mel had this whole team under her, 343 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: and he was like, oh, Mel, this is so this 344 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: is so good like I did, and like Mel's like, yeah, 345 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: this is my job, like I'm a boss ass bitch 346 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: and you could tell like he just didn't understand. He 347 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: didn't understand. And then I think it was really great 348 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: for him because he saw it was like actually a 349 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: physical company, you know, like yeah, it's a warehouse and 350 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: there's products and and didn't touch it and see it. 351 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: You can touch and see it. But I think often, 352 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: like you know, a job as an influencer or social 353 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: social media, like people just don't understand and they don't 354 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: think it's even anything. 355 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 2: Even when I told people I was coming to work 356 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 2: at a pot They're like full time, what do you mean? 357 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, that's like three of us 358 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: I know. And yes, and the podcast makes money. Yeah, 359 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: oh my god. This is such like a random side note, guys, 360 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,959 Speaker 1: but can I just say, if you're someone who listens 361 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 1: to this potty and you don't skip the ads, thank you, 362 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: because that's how a tea gets paid. Like, if you 363 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: think about it, you guys get hours of free content 364 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: and it's you've just got to listen to a little ad, 365 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: so please don't skip me ideas like please, And so 366 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: I think this whole episode like, let's normalize this imposter 367 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: syndrome because I think we're all going to feel like 368 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: it and it doesn't actually matter how qualified you are, 369 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: you're going to feel it like regardless, and I think 370 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: that's even it. Like I did a whole law degree 371 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: and then you know, when I got my law grind position, 372 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, who am I to 373 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: do this like this? And like it's it's ridiculous and 374 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: honestly logically doesn't make a lot of sense, but when 375 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: it does it ever, Yeah, exactly. Do you have any 376 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: examples of when you felt on poster syndrometeria. 377 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been thinking about it a lot, and I 378 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 2: think it happened. And it's such a weird thing because 379 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 2: you forget when you felt that way after you've moved 380 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 2: past it. Yeah, but I think when I applied for 381 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 2: this job, I felt it quite a bit because I obviously. 382 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: You I have no idea about podcast you're like for 383 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: the tech person at R and C. Now, literally like 384 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: I listened to podcasts and I loved them, but back 385 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: end didn't have much knowledge just to can't do attitude 386 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: and even just like being in a completely different industry 387 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: to what I was in, because I obviously had transferable 388 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: skills and that is what I just had to keep 389 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: reiterating to myself when actually making this application. But obviously 390 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: a lot of those thoughts came in where it was 391 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: like who am I to turn around and be like 392 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: I'm the right person for your podcast? And even like 393 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: sometimes helping on episodes, I feel it a little bit 394 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 1: because I'm like, why would people want to listen to 395 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 1: what I have to say? 396 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 2: Kind of thing? 397 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: Yes, oh my god, that's so interesting. Yeah, and that 398 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: makes sense. But to me, like when I think of 399 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: your interview, you literally walked in the room and I 400 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: knew straightaway that you were right for the position. You 401 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: didn't even have to say too much. And I just 402 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: was like, yes, this girl her vibe and isn't that funny? 403 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so weird. 404 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 3: And I was there like I don't know what to say, 405 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 3: Like I could definitely tell you were nervous, right, I 406 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 3: think it's normal in an interview, absolutely, but yeah it's 407 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 3: like when I, you know, read your resume and then 408 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 3: just how you showed up and then also your. 409 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: Bloody vision board, like you just see we're doing vision boards. 410 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: If you guys didn't know, a Tia did a vision 411 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: board for me as like where she sees the podcast 412 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,479 Speaker 1: in five years or something, and that honestly got her 413 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 1: the job, like a physical vision board. 414 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was so much fun to make as well. 415 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,719 Speaker 1: I could imagine do you have any other times anyway? 416 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: So go back and then how did you kind of 417 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: combat We'll get into my tips of combating imposter syndrome? 418 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: How did you do that? In that moment? 419 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 2: I think for like applying for the job, it was 420 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 2: very much just like recognizing my achievements through my work 421 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 2: experience as well as the fact that I'm doing a 422 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 2: degree in marketing that I just had to sort of 423 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 2: lean on the very logical things rather than actually worry 424 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 2: about getting rid of the feeling because I don't think 425 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 2: you can very easy or I haven't found a technique 426 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 2: that works for me to be able to just get 427 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 2: rid of that feeling straight away. But I, because I'm 428 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 2: quite logical, will just lean on I have these transferable skills, 429 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 2: I have this experience, I've done these things in the 430 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 2: past that are slightly different, And yes, it's a different industry, 431 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 2: but I can pivot and also just always having I 432 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 2: guess that attitude in a work sense when it comes 433 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 2: to imposter syndrome of I can do anything that I 434 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 2: put my mind to, so it doesn't matter because I 435 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 2: will work harder than maybe someone who I think is 436 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 2: more qualified than me. 437 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: I love that kind of thing, and that's honestly how 438 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: I think about things too. Like I honestly felt like 439 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: an imposter my whole law degree, because even though I 440 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 1: got an op to get into law straight away, I 441 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: just felt not smart enough because I wasn't your typical 442 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 1: UNI student. 443 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so what I used to do is. 444 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: As soon as we got an assignment, I would go 445 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: to the library and get all the books on that topic. 446 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 2: I was like, you've worried all the books, get them. 447 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 4: The whole ofa No, I would return them, but I 448 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 4: would start the assignment like as soon as we got it, 449 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 4: so like it could be four weeks before it was due, 450 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 4: which I like. 451 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 1: And so like you're saying, I would just go, well, 452 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put in the work, yeah, and I'm gonna 453 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: make sure I deserve my spot here. Even though I 454 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: didn't feel like that because I didn't feel like, you know, 455 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: naturally smart or whatnot. So I'm like, it actually doesn't 456 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: matter that I feel this way because I know I 457 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,479 Speaker 1: can put in the work and get to you know, 458 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: where I want to be. Yeah, I think like something 459 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: also I've realized, and I think it's it's honestly just 460 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: about practice. And I think once you go through one 461 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: impostera syndrome and then you get over it, and like 462 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: you said, it's here, you often get to the point 463 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: where you forget about it. What I really do is 464 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: like think back to that time and go, well, if 465 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: I did it, then I can do it now. Yeah, 466 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: And honestly, like so it was some tips to get 467 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: over imposta syndrome. Obviously, if you you know, wanted to 468 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: do if you wanted to start a business, how you 469 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: can kind of get there is maybe you do a 470 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: small business course that just gives you some foundations, some 471 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: you know, some some kind of I guess quote unquote 472 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: qualification to then do that thing that just kind of 473 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: makes you feel more stability. I guess. 474 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's just like a bit more of a 475 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 2: physical thing to prove your. 476 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: Yes, to prove yes. And like, for instance, I think 477 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: back when I had this really weird thing when I 478 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 1: pivoted didn't do law. I actually did when I brought 479 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: out my ebook. So I brought out this ebook and like, 480 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: now looking back, that was such a small project to them, 481 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: what I've now done with things. But to me, it 482 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, this is this huge thing 483 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 1: and who am I to do this? And I was 484 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 1: so in my head about it. And I actually hired 485 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: a business coach and I, you know, I talk about 486 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: this a lot in my manifesting course, where I hired 487 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: a business coach and I was literally earning sixty thousand 488 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 1: dollars a year and my business coach was like forty thousand. 489 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 490 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 1: For six months, I would vomit. Yeah I did, like 491 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,479 Speaker 1: I felt. I felt six but sick. But yeah, it 492 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: was like betting on myself and so that yeah, I remember, 493 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: like I spent forty thousand dollars on a coach, but 494 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 1: I think it was something ridiculous, like I tenxt what 495 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: I then spent on a business coach, because it's almost 496 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: like I was betting on myself and I was showing myself, well, 497 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: if I do that, of course I can accomplish and 498 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: it'll come back. Yes, it's going to come back tenfold. 499 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: And that's like you know, money mindset. That's a whole 500 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,479 Speaker 1: other episode. But basically I kind of joke to people 501 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: all the time that I honestly paid that coach forty 502 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: thousand dollars for her to tell me I was good enough. 503 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: Oh no, like I'm not joking, Like she was definitely helpful. Yeah, 504 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 1: but like now look back, it's not like she taught 505 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: me anything. 506 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 2: Profound about Yeah. 507 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was honestly more her instilling and each week 508 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 1: me showing up to a call and her going of 509 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: course you deserve a seat at the table. 510 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 2: You know. 511 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: She was helping me be an authority within the space. 512 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: And I think sometimes it honestly takes paying someone money 513 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,479 Speaker 1: and them, you know, telling you or coaching you, or 514 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: investing in a course. And like I also joke about 515 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 1: this with my manifesting course of in my course, you know, 516 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: even though with the marketing, I'm like, you know, achieve 517 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: your dream life, which is your dream car, or buying 518 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: a property like all these like lavish you know, physical 519 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: luxury items. But honestly, the gist of the course is 520 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: I make you feel worthy, which you then attract those things. 521 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And that's that's something that my mum's always said, 522 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 2: is that sometimes there will be a certain person that 523 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 2: you need to learn a certain thing from and that 524 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 2: might cost a bit of money, but no matter, Like 525 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 2: you could have someone in your life telling you the 526 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 2: exact same thing. Yes, but you're just not gonna hear it. 527 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 2: It's not gonna register because that is not who you're 528 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 2: supposed to learn that from. 529 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: Yes, one hundred percent. And that's why if you would 530 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: have asked me, oh my god, so you wasted your 531 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: money with this business coach, and I'm like, fuck no, 532 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: look what I've now achieved. And it took you know, 533 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: paying this person huge sum of money, but also her 534 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: just telling me I was worthy enough, and I had 535 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: to do that to get to this point. But the 536 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: whole thing is, yeah, hearing the right things at the 537 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: right time, and also I guess, feeling like worthy enough. 538 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: So if you can do little things or maybe big 539 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: things to help with the imposter syndrome and feel like 540 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: you were worthy enough. So for example, you know, once 541 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: I got my hair and makeup done for that photo shoot, 542 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: the Pedal and Pop photo shoot, I was like, fuck course, 543 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be. I'm not joking. 544 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 2: Hair and makeup and like I ten just like fix 545 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 2: his life. 546 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: I was like, looked at me. I was like, fuck, 547 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: I look good today. But do you know what I mean? Like, 548 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: it can be something small, it can be something big, 549 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: but find what it is that just makes you. So 550 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: maybe you're going to an interview and like maybe you 551 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: dress like, you know a bit like boss lady or 552 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: you just you show up. This is it. So show 553 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: up as the person that you want to be in 554 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: the future, but show up as her now, Like that's 555 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: the energy you want to be into. Combat imposter syndrome. 556 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, pretend you're already there. 557 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: Almost like fake it until you make it. Yeah, but 558 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: we're not actually faking it because you deserve to be there. Yes, 559 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: And honestly, we could even go like if you guys 560 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: listen to the Expandeds episode a couple episodes back, like 561 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: you know, maybe you need to listen to us stories 562 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: or immerse yourself and content where someone has achieved something 563 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: being from where you are and it's like we all 564 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: start somewhere. I guarantee you that person that you look 565 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: up to has felt these feelings and been in a 566 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: situation where they are the exact. 567 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 2: Same as you exactly, and like when you hear those stories, 568 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 2: it sounds like massive quantum leaps. And even though sometimes 569 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 2: it is a massive quantum leap, sometimes it's a lot 570 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 2: of hard work. Sometimes it's a mix of both. There 571 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 2: isn't necessarily anything that qualifies you to do something in 572 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 2: your life. 573 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: Guys, we are so sorry. There's literally a plumber in 574 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: the next room, and so we're just going to keep 575 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: recording because I feel like we've got momentum here. Yeah, 576 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: so I apologize for the little tap to the. 577 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 2: Other thing that really helps me with imposter syndrome. And 578 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 2: I have a bit of a name for it. I 579 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 2: like coined, coined. I actually don't know if I've coined it, 580 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 2: but it's mine. I'm taking it. Is like recognizing your 581 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 2: mountain of value is what I'd like to call it, 582 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 2: And it's your life experiences and the people around you 583 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 2: and the things you learn and the thoughts you have 584 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 2: create your own mountain and value, and everyone's is different. 585 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 2: So you might want to, for example, release an ebook 586 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 2: on manifesting, and Georgie, you've released an ebook on manifesting, 587 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 2: But because both of you have different mountains of value. 588 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 2: There's nothing to stop you from releasing an ebook on 589 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 2: manifesting just because your mountain and value is different. It 590 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 2: actually might make it make more sense. 591 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: Yes, oh my god, I love to say here and 592 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: one hundred percent you've coined this term and we're going 593 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: to use it. I love it. Mountain of value. Well, 594 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: that's even something. So before I release the Rise and 595 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: Conker project, I you know, like there is there's a 596 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: thousand manifesting courses, there's a thousand self development courses. But 597 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: I was like, no one has because the way again 598 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: that I like, you know, Mark and tell you about 599 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: the project is every time I want something in my life, 600 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: I apply this exact same formula that is like nothing 601 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: I've seen in anything else. It's nothing that I've seen 602 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: in anyone's other teachings because it's very not so much 603 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: personal to me. But I just have been through so 604 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: many you know, achievements and doing things that I've like 605 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: kind of perfected this formula, and that's what I teach 606 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: on the project and in the project, I very much say, 607 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: you know, like this is how I do it. Here's 608 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: some other ways how I do it, but always make 609 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: it personal to you and what feels good to you, 610 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: and I give you those sorts of tools. But that's 611 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: so right, Like there's going to be like you can 612 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: never reinvent the wheel exactly, all the wheels are taking, 613 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: all the wheels are done, there's only four, so like 614 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: you can never reinvent the wheel. But no one has 615 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: your experiences, your life experiences, your qualifications, your personality, the 616 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: way that you do things, So it doesn't matter if 617 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,439 Speaker 1: someone's already done it, or it doesn't matter if if 618 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: someone has done something a specific way, if you were 619 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 1: feeling called or if you're feeling really led to do 620 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,919 Speaker 1: something and you feel imposter syndrome, it's like you're meant 621 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:24,439 Speaker 1: to do this. 622 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 2: You're literally meant to do it, and because you're going 623 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 2: to do it differently, that's why it'll work for you. 624 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: And because you're going to do it differently, that's why 625 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: it's going to work for you. Love Mic drop Yeah, 626 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: end of the episode. 627 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 2: Guys. 628 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: I think also, you know, like a big part of 629 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: imposter syndrome is this worthiness component components huge. So I 630 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 1: think if you constantly are in imposta syndrome and you're 631 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: constantly in this state of who am I to do this? 632 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: You know, I'm in a posta and a fraud star. 633 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: I think you need to work on your worthiness component. 634 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I don't need to. 635 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: Wasn't meaning you. 636 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 2: And I think I think it's super common. 637 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think, you know, we could go into 638 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: worthiness in a whole episode. But like Ata says, like 639 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 1: no one has your experiences, your life lessons, and so 640 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: if you're constantly not feeling worthy, it's maybe you need 641 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: to see a therapist. Maybe you need to unpack the trauma, 642 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: the you know, the whys of why you feel like this, 643 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 1: because it's just going to keep coming up. 644 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, and especially if it's a very common thing 645 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 2: or you find it seeping into a lot of different 646 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 2: aspects of your life. 647 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. But I think also if you can feel imposter syndrome, 648 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: if you can feel that feeling and then change it 649 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: and rewrite the story. Yeah, like I said, when I 650 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: felt it the other day at the photo shoot with 651 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 1: Pedal and Pup, I you know, put music on. I 652 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: literally pep talk to myself, like I said, affirmations, I 653 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: had to rewrite the story. So another big thing is 654 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 1: instead of feeling imposter syndrome and being like, fuck, this 655 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: is not good and seeing it as a negative. Can you 656 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: swap that and go, I must be onto something good. 657 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: I must be ready for my upgrade. I must be 658 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 1: ready to go to the next level and choose to 659 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: feel those feelings instead of being anxious excitement, Like, can 660 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: you swap those feelings around and really lean into that? 661 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 1: Because I think any sort of growth or evolution, you're 662 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: just going to feel like that. Like that is so natural, 663 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: because anytime you haven't done something, you feel like a fraud, 664 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: you feel like you're not good enough, and then you 665 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 1: do it and you're like, h wasn't too bad. 666 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, And sometimes even when you've done it before and 667 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,800 Speaker 2: you're just doing it slightly differently black with your pedal 668 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 2: and pop collection, you'll still get the feeling. Yeah. 669 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: And I had to work through my limiting beliefs and 670 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: you know, go through rewriting the story all over again, 671 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: like it's never ending. But also how great. 672 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. The other thing that I thought would be interesting 673 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 2: to touch on is how do we know the difference 674 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 2: between imposter syndrome and when our intuition is telling us 675 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 2: that you're actually not in the right place. 676 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, great question. I think for me. Do you 677 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: mean in regards to you feeling so anxious and nervous 678 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: that this isn't the right choice? 679 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, like almost with my engineering degree, I had to 680 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 2: work through like, am I feeling out of place because 681 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 2: I'm different because i Am not the typical person to 682 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 2: do this and I'm not that smart guy who did 683 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 2: suicide seek subject at school? Blah blah blah. 684 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: Oh my god, every engineer looks the same once, be honest, 685 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 1: and they're. 686 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 2: All named Dan. 687 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's so correct. I actually had a 688 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: girlfriend in high school, Marianna who shout out to Marianna 689 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 1: she won't listen to the podcast, who was an engineer, 690 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: and she was just like sweet, really short, little Oh 691 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: my gosh, and she was such a badass. And are 692 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 1: seeing her at UNI with all like these nerdy guys 693 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 1: who were just frothing her because she was so fucking hot, 694 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, so sidetracked though, Sorry, all. 695 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 2: Right, yeah sir, go back to just like this feeling 696 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 2: of am I feeling out of place because it's imposter syndrome? 697 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 2: Or am I feeling out of place because this is 698 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:47,320 Speaker 2: not my place? 699 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 1: Yes? Okay, so the difference here is you would have 700 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: felt out of place, but I'm guessing not have been 701 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: excited about engineering. Yeah, you answered your own question. So 702 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: free instance, with a pedal put photo shoot, I felt 703 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: out of place. I felt undeserving, but I was so 704 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 1: excited about my collection. I had poured so much love 705 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 1: and energy, and either way, I knew I was going 706 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,760 Speaker 1: to do it. It's just if I in that moment 707 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: felt like confident or not. So it's like, you still 708 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:26,919 Speaker 1: need to be excited and nervous, but for the thing, 709 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 1: it's not just a total negative feeling, if that makes sense. Yes, So, 710 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 1: for instance, I would in that scenario go, Okay, if 711 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 1: I had all the qualifications in the world, would I 712 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: still go and do this thing and love it? 713 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 2: I love that. The best question to ask if you. 714 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,879 Speaker 1: Were the smartest person in the world are tire, would 715 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 1: you still go and be an engineer? Does that excite you? 716 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 2: God? 717 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: There? 718 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,800 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you do not care about the water pressure 719 00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 2: in parts? Guys? 720 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: Is that an engineer? 721 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 2: That was the moment I knew it wasn't right for me. 722 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 2: I was doing a prack and the guys got excited 723 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 2: about the water pressure changing in pipes, and I was like, Wow. 724 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: This isn't what have I done? 725 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 2: That was literally the moment. 726 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 1: And that was the moment love. Yeah, so I would 727 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: say you still need to be ask yourself, if I 728 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: had all the qualifications in the world, would I be 729 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 1: excited to do this thing? I love that. All right, guys, 730 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to wrap it up here. In conclusion, we 731 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:38,840 Speaker 1: all feel impostera syndrome. It is so normal, especially because 732 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,839 Speaker 1: I feel like, if you listen to this podcast, you're 733 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 1: a go getter. You're out there living your best life, 734 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 1: and this is going to come up a lot. But 735 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: if you want to continue to push boundaries, if you 736 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 1: want to continue to grow and evolve and be your 737 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,320 Speaker 1: bad self, you've got to get comfortable with imposter syndrome 738 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 1: because it's going to keep coming up. And it is 739 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 1: totally normal. And it's up to you whether you, you know, 740 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 1: swap the narrative and actually make this really exciting thing 741 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 1: love And just know all the people you look up to, 742 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: I guarantee you they feel the exact same feelings. It's exciting. 743 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,360 Speaker 1: If you feel on poster syndrome, it's fucking exciting. 744 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 2: It's a good thing. 745 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 1: You're growing. Thanks, guys, thank you so much for listening 746 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 1: to another episode of the Rise and Conquer podcast. If 747 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: you enjoyed it and want more, come connect with us 748 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 1: on Instagram at Riseinconquer dot podcast and join our Facebook 749 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,839 Speaker 1: discussion group, a Rise and Concer podcast community. We're an 750 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 1: independent podcast and we have a small team, so we 751 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: do appreciate your time and support. If you have a 752 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 1: spare moment, a follow or subscribe on whatever platform you 753 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 1: listen to would be so amazing, And look, if you're 754 00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 1: feeling extra kind, a review on Apple Podcasts would be great.