1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:01,240 Speaker 1: This is Outspoken. 2 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 2: The podcast is not afraid to say exactly what you're thinking. 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 2: Our names are Amy Kate and Sophie Torba. We're identical triplets, 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 2: but we often don't have identical opinions, so sometimes things 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 2: can get heated. Outspoken covers all things reality TV, influences, entertainment, 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 2: and issues facing women. 7 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: That is so fat Thank you. 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: I really never believed in manifesting until today because I 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: was lying in bed thinking, Oh, come on, Kate, you're 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 2: gonna have a good day today. 11 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: You know you deserve good things coming your way. 12 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: And I then rolled over and looked at my phone 13 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: and I had a notification telling me I'd won a 14 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: year's supply of nextper Kom Butcher. I'm not even joking. 15 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: I love it. 16 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: This was the first message I saw in the morning, 17 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: and I was genuinely so excited. I already did the 18 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 2: math because I told Brandon and he's like, Wow, that's 19 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: going to save a lot of money. That's about seven 20 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: hundred dollars worth of komb Butcher. You've won k Well, 21 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: it's three hundred. I get three hundred and sixty five bottles. 22 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: I got to select the flavor. I picked mango, I 23 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: feel like I'm going to be so sick of it. 24 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: And you guys can have one or two bottles if so, 25 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: this was a tag and win competition that you want, 26 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 2: and I believe you tagged me in it. So aren't 27 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: you supposed to share with the people you tagged in 28 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: the I hope not, because I also tagged my dog 29 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: shadows account and I don't think he can drink butcher. 30 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 2: So I feel like you would have had a heart 31 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: attack this morning they're reading Kate's message because all I've 32 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: been hearing about the last couple of days is how 33 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 2: you're going to win the Home Lottery's house at Brighton. 34 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 2: I was so upset, because well, it sounds bad to 35 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: be upset, but when I saw that you wrote I won, 36 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 2: my heart kind of dropped because I thought, oh my god, 37 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,559 Speaker 2: has Kate won the house on the esplant. 38 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 1: I want to be so jealous. We actually went. 39 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,199 Speaker 2: On a walk a couple of days ago and we 40 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: raised the issue would you be would I be happy? 41 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 3: No? 42 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: You raised it, actually, Katey, you said we would you 43 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: be happy? If I won? I feel like I'm a 44 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: horrible human being because we all concluded that we would 45 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: not be happy if each other one, just because we'd 46 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: be so jealous. 47 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: That's not true. I said I would be happy. 48 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: Well, Sophie promised me ten grand if she did win, 49 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: for time, making up for the fact that we all 50 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: wouldn't be happy for each Well, I was putting that 51 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: out to the universe. I thought, if I put it 52 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: out to the universe, it might help me win. But 53 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: I won jack shit on this home lottery, not even 54 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: I said I put it out there. I said, I 55 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: at least want to win a fruit Chok's giveaway pack. 56 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 2: And I won nothing. Our cousin won I think it 57 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: was six six bottles of white. I mean that probably 58 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: would have been a worse prize for me. But I 59 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 2: love that you're complaining that it's a charity auction. Oh 60 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 2: I'm charity lotto. There is the silver lining there that 61 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: my money is going to charity. What about our friend 62 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: She won a Chanelle voucher and she was telling us 63 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: how she went and picked up the bag, and there 64 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 2: was this whole process that went on. But it got 65 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: so funa thinking because you had another friend who got 66 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: a bag and it was heavily discounted for a tiny scratch. Oh, 67 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 2: this is the way to go everyone. This is a 68 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 2: hot tip here. If you go and buy a bag, take. 69 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: A real good look at it. 70 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: My friend got two thousand dollars off her wire sale 71 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 2: bag because it had two tiny scratches on the handle. 72 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 2: How much I want to sell bags? She got two thousands, 73 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,399 Speaker 2: though they're in a couple of grand each. 74 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: I think this one was three thousand dollars. So embelloching 75 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: the story. Yeah, I promise, I promise you. 76 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: She got about two grand off. Oh wow, so two 77 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 2: thirds off the price. And then we were chatting to 78 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 2: a client and she said that she also got about 79 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 2: a grand off a Chloe bag because there was also 80 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 2: a scratch on it. So could you go in store 81 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: and scratch them and then get I'm just s you 82 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 2: probably get arrested. 83 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: Do you know what's really cringe? 84 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 2: Though I feel bad, like I would never be like 85 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: this bag has a scratch, I want eight hundred dollars 86 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: off because it reminded me of the time cake. Remember 87 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: when we were shopping with Mum and you found this 88 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: lamp shade from harri'scarf. 89 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: That you wanted. 90 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 2: Well, the lamb shade was slightly damaged, but it was 91 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 2: I think seventy percent off, but I did make Mum 92 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: go up and complain about the state of it. Yeah, 93 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: So we were saying that there's a face that people 94 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 2: do when they want a price, when they want a discount, 95 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 2: you kind of give it this look like, can I 96 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: just say that, I don't think I have any of 97 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: that authority because when I had an issue with my phone, 98 00:03:59,280 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: I went in. 99 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: I know what's slightly different, but I went in. 100 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: With that face and complained and put my foot down 101 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: and I wasn't taken seriously. I feel like you've got 102 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 2: to be at least forty before you can pull that face. 103 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: No or a man, because Dale is the best at 104 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 2: complaining about things. It actually reminds me because Dale and 105 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 2: I were at a supermarket the other day. I love 106 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 2: that we're going from Chanel bags to what you got 107 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 2: at the supermarket. 108 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: But okay, well, there. 109 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 2: Was a there was a promotion for coke that was on, 110 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: so if you got two bottles of coke, you're meant 111 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: to get a yo yo. I'm actually so embarrassed to 112 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: tell this story. So can I say, aren't these promotions 113 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: for children? 114 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 3: Yeah? 115 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: Well, whatever we wanted the yoyo. So Dal was like, 116 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 2: oh my god, let's get two bottles of coke, eat 117 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 2: and we'll each get a coke yo yo. 118 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: You've told me this story. 119 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 2: Weren't the bottles of coke like fourteen dollars or something? Yeah, 120 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: they were like three fifty each for the bottles? 121 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: What so hang on fourteen and you got two yo 122 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: yos from. 123 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 2: You basically paid for the yo yos because coke's like 124 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 2: two dollars usually. Anyway, we got our cokes, we had 125 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: some other other stuff too. We went to the counter. 126 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: There was a massive line behind us. We get there 127 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 2: and I turned to Dale and I said, imagine, if 128 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: they don't have any yoyos, can we just like return 129 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 2: the drinks And he's like, yeah, we'll return them if 130 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 2: they don't. Anyway, this girl serves us and Dad was like, yeah, 131 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: we get two yoyos with these, and she says, oh okay, 132 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: and she's like, hey, have we got any of those 133 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: yogos left there? And the person's like, I have never 134 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 2: seen any yoyos. 135 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 1: There's this massive line. Everyone's giving us the dead eye. 136 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: They have to go out the back to see if 137 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: they've got the yoyos. They come out, they get out 138 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 2: this little tub and there's only Sprite and Lift yoyos 139 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 2: in there. 140 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: What's wrong with them? 141 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? 142 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: They're like. 143 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 2: She's like, the's okay. And Dale looked at them like, 144 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 2: ah yeah. And I was like, make sure Amy you 145 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: pick the one you want out because she had started 146 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 2: handing us one. So here you got a Sprite one, 147 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 2: I got a Lift one. We walk out of the 148 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 2: store and I said to Dale was a joke. I 149 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 2: actually wanted to sprite and he's like, we'll go back in. 150 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: I will return it for you. Well, have you guys 151 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: even played with these yo yo? 152 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 2: Oh? 153 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: My gosh, we have been. We have been yoo wing. 154 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: It's been really sad. 155 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,799 Speaker 2: So it reminds me of school because there was always 156 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: a yoyo craze and a marble craze. 157 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 3: When they landed at Plymouth Rock, they were greeted by 158 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 3: the friendly Wampanog Indian. Do the Indians you have yo yos? 159 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: No? 160 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 3: They did not have yoyos. 161 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: That's it. 162 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 3: Sick and tired of talking about yoyos. From now on, 163 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 3: I will not accept any book reports, science projects, dioramas, 164 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 3: or anything else on yoyo's or yoyo related topics. Am 165 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 3: I making myself clear yo. 166 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 2: Danny Mansudi has returned to YouTube after a six month 167 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: hiatus from the platform. The video, entitled Finally telling You 168 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 2: Everything plus I'm Moving to Australia, went for forty eight minutes. Now, 169 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 2: I took one for the team and what should in. 170 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: Full fast forward fast? Yes? 171 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 2: I did put it in double speed to get through 172 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 2: it all, So I thought I would share with you 173 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 2: some of the main points so you don't have to 174 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 2: endure the forty eight min minute video yourselves. 175 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: Can I say? 176 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,119 Speaker 2: I do actually sometimes enjoy a forty eight minute YouTube 177 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 2: because I just bang it on in the background. I'll 178 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 2: be on my phone most of the time looking at 179 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 2: real estate dot Go. I think it depends if it's 180 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 2: a sit down chat. I think a forty five minute 181 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 2: sit down chat is a little bit long if it's 182 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 2: a forty five minute vlog where you're going to different 183 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 2: play through though I love that that's my bread and 184 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 2: butter there. Yeah, it was a very boring sit down 185 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 2: chat because I feel like I've watched a lot of 186 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: Danny's Instagram stories and a lot of it was repeating 187 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 2: the health issues that she's had surrounding her breast ex plant. 188 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: Surgery. 189 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 2: So Danny explained that the reason she has taken six 190 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: months off YouTube is because she was suffering with poor 191 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: health around her breast implants, and she said that she 192 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: was really depressed and at the point of no return, 193 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: and that she said, spent so much money to get 194 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: home but it was worth it. And there were parts 195 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: in the video where I did feel really sorry for Danny. 196 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,559 Speaker 2: It was very clear that her mental health has really 197 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: been affected and that's why she has been staying off YouTube. 198 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 2: And it seems like she's really trying to turn her 199 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 2: life around because she spoke about how she's cutting out 200 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 2: alcohol and eating health ins, deleted uber eats from her phone. 201 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 2: I suppose the most interesting thing was when she spoke 202 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 2: about the anxiety she feels about posting on YouTube and 203 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: the fact that she actually not been earning any money 204 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: from ads for the last six months. 205 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: So she said her YouTube channel, well, she said. 206 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 2: The only money she's been earning as an influencer is 207 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: from ad Sense from her YouTube channel, but she hasn't 208 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 2: been doing any promotion on Instagram or anything like that. 209 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 2: But how is she surviving in London? And I can 210 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: imagine it would be very expensive there. 211 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, that's the interesting thing. 212 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 2: So she said she's been having to dip into her 213 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 2: savings and it's now at a point where she actually 214 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 2: can't afford to live in her apartment in London, and 215 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: that's why she's moving home to Australia. Do you think 216 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 2: that's also why she's making a big return to YouTube, 217 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 2: because she's now going to make that her main focus. 218 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: I actually do think she has returned to YouTube to 219 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 2: start earning money because she really needs it. I mean, 220 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: she put up on her Instagram story yesterday saying it's 221 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 2: going to cost her eight thousand dollars to send beans 222 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 2: to Australia, which is her pug. And she also shared 223 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 2: that she's been having to pay a lot of money 224 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 2: for moving fees. So she said two hundred pounds on 225 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 2: the end of tendancy clean, two hundred and fifteen pounds 226 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 2: to councel her internet, and seventy pounds to redirect her mate. 227 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 2: So do you guys think that she has purposely not 228 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 2: taken on any brand deals or do you think the 229 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 2: brands are not wanting to work with her because of 230 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 2: some of the controversies. Look, I do believe that Danny 231 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: has been struggling both mentally and physically with her health. 232 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: She looked visibly. 233 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 2: Shaken on her YouTube video. It's quite clear she feels 234 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 2: very uncomfortable in front of a camera, because she explained 235 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 2: how she feels that everyone just picks on everything she does. 236 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 2: So I'll throw to what Danny said. 237 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 4: Just makes you so sad that you're like, wow, these 238 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 4: people are They genuinely believe I'm someone they've made up 239 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 4: in their head that's not me at all, And I 240 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 4: just get really, really sad. Every single influencer has websites 241 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 4: that are designed to tell them apart. You've got podcasts, 242 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 4: you've got Instagram pages, all sorts of stuff. I understand, 243 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 4: and I'm a consumer of keeping up with like YouTube. 244 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: Tea, So I get it. 245 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 4: I get why it's interesting. You know, I watch H 246 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 4: three podcast. I love that podcast. A lot of that 247 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 4: podcast is centered around drama, hypocrite to be like, oh, 248 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 4: you know, people can't talk about others on the internet. 249 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 5: But when it's like for legitimate crimes and yeah, all 250 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 5: that stuff, it's a little bit different. But for me, 251 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 5: it's like it's when I haven't even come online and 252 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 5: then people are like making up stories and people. 253 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 4: I've been told. I say I've been told because my 254 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 4: friends kind of feel me and about stuff, but I 255 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 4: don't like to look at it. I've gone through a 256 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 4: lot with the whole issue with my breasts, and then 257 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 4: some people think I'm lying. Some people make up stories 258 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 4: about that, and some people will attack my character when 259 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 4: I just sit here and I think, like, I've had 260 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 4: a really tough time. Can we not use something that 261 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 4: is part of my health and my private life as tea. 262 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: People scrutinize everything. 263 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 4: If I breathe the wrong way, I'm a murderer and all. 264 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: This stuff that you're just like, I just can't. 265 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 4: I just can't even be on this platform right now 266 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 4: because I can't survive as a human being. 267 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: I can't do anything right. No matter what I do, 268 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: it's not right. 269 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 4: And then it just got me into a really really 270 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,599 Speaker 4: bad place mentally as well as everything else I was 271 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 4: going through that The thought of YouTube terrified me. 272 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: Oh my god, the thought of. 273 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 4: Coming on here like this has taken me like six 274 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 4: months to come back on because of how messed up 275 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 4: and mental health's been for my. 276 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 2: Health, I do feel really bad for Danny listening to that. 277 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's quite clear that. 278 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 2: It has really affected her mental and physical health, and 279 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 2: she said herself that perhaps she is too sensitive to 280 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 2: be on a platform like YouTube and Instagram. I think 281 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: it's really clear that social media isn't the right job 282 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 2: for Danny at this time. Obviously she's changed the way 283 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 2: that she posts on Instagram, she stopped her YouTube channel, 284 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 2: and it seems like she really did, of course, have 285 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: to do that for her mental health. I think it'd 286 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: be really positive for Danny if she came back to 287 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 2: Australia and perhaps looked into other careers that might work 288 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 2: for her and make her happy, because this clearly is not. 289 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 1: Making her happy. 290 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 2: It was interesting you say that because she did say 291 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 2: that she potentially maybe looking at getting a job outside 292 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 2: of social media. She explained that she just wants to 293 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 2: go to the beach and relacs with her family and 294 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: do it art and potentially take on another job. And 295 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 2: I actually think that would be the best thing for her. 296 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: Well, didn't she mention that she also is considering starting 297 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: a podcast. Yeah, she did so. 298 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: But potentially that could be the new career. It would 299 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 2: make sense. She said that she gets so anxious and 300 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 2: uncomfortable on camera that she feels like she stiffens up 301 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 2: and isn't really herself, So she said that she thought 302 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: podcasting might be a better format for her. 303 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 3: Harry, I'm feeling so much something I haven't felt for 304 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 3: a long time. 305 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: Right, no, complete and tone. Ona, Well you're your own 306 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 1: boss now. 307 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 3: I want to go to a tractor poll. 308 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: Got I have stayed out all night? Who's daring? 309 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 3: I want to Biden do a big hunkt cheese? Just 310 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 3: biting do it like it's an apple. 311 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 2: A couple of weeks ago, on the podcast, we discussed 312 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 2: how Shiny Grimman has parted ways with her ex boyfriend 313 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 2: Tommy Bugs talent management agency zooits Now. At the time, 314 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 2: we speculated that perhaps it was because Zoots wasn't on 315 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 2: the ball and getting enough ads in for her. However, 316 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: we have had a sneaky person slide into our d 317 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 2: yes and let us know that this might not be 318 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 2: the case. Yes, well we've had this is a bit 319 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 2: of a rumor file this. Obviously we don't know how 320 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 2: true this is, but we thought we'd let you. 321 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: In on the tea. 322 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: So apparently Shani has been the one who hasn't been 323 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 2: upholding her end of the deal, and it seems that 324 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: Zoots has been getting in a lot of deals for Shani. 325 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 2: She's been taking the content but just not posting it. 326 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 2: And these are all allegations, so we don't know if 327 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 2: this is true, but someone has reached out that is 328 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 2: in the know, and so this is why Zoots is 329 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 2: no longer working. Yeah, I mean it does make sense 330 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 2: because she does have her business, Silk Swimwear, so maybe 331 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 2: she's just wanting to put all of her attention into 332 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 2: that and isn't as interested in spooking other businesses. I 333 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 2: think this was during a time where Shani was very 334 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 2: much adamant that she wanted to take a break from 335 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 2: social media. But what was really odd was the fact 336 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 2: that she'd go through and take all of the content, 337 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 2: but then she just wouldn't post it. So she wanted 338 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 2: She was saying she wanted to take a break from 339 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: even sharing content on her Instagram page. So that's a 340 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 2: really interesting rumor going around. You would have thought that 341 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: the management company could have got her password and just 342 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,719 Speaker 2: posted it for you. And considering she's already done a 343 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 2: little bit, how pissed off would you be at zooits 344 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 2: Because if she doesn't share the content, no one gets paid. 345 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 2: M Yeah, you're definitely not getting it fifteen percent percent 346 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: whatever it is. 347 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 3: Why do you drop that in my pigeon hole? 348 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: Great, where's sir, any ben? 349 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: Any rubbish bin U see in or indeed out of 350 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: the school. 351 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 3: Just pop all your thoughts in a rubbish bin and they'll. 352 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 2: Get to me. Now, late last year, the Guardian newspaper 353 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 2: reported that the NHS in the UK was enlisting the 354 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 2: help of celebrities and influencers in a major campaign to 355 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 2: persuade people to have the COVID vaccine amid fears of 356 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 2: very low take up. Now, the Minister and NHS were 357 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 2: said to be drawing up a list of very sensible 358 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 2: famous people who had acted sensibly during the pandemic. 359 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: Now, I feel like. 360 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 2: It would be a very tough job to work on 361 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 2: that list of people. I think it would be hard 362 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 2: to pick from influencers because everybody seemed to be calling 363 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 2: out different influences for doing the wrong thing during the 364 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 2: lockdown in the UK. But surely there are some famous 365 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 2: people who've laid low during lockdown. Well. At the time, 366 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 2: there were rumors that the NHS was going to enlist 367 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 2: some UK footballers, so one of them was Marcus Rashford, 368 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 2: who has been part of a child food poverty campaign 369 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 2: in the past, and the other rumors were that they 370 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 2: were going to enlist the royal family. Really well, there 371 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 2: was a bit of there was a lot of promotion 372 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 2: on Kate and Will's Instagram account about them getting the 373 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 2: fires A vaccine. Yeah, so the one that I have 374 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 2: seen and this won't be a surprise to our listeners 375 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 2: because I do follow Anastasia kings Nor's life quite closely. 376 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 2: She was enlisted as one of these influencers to promote 377 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 2: the vaccines. So last week Anastasia put up on her 378 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 2: Instagram story that she had received her first dose of 379 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 2: the fires A vaccine, and she put up a question 380 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 2: box asking her followers to write in questions asking about 381 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 2: her experience. Gosh, I could imagine her inboox would have 382 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 2: been filled with anti vaxas using her. Well, the thing 383 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 2: that's a little bit awkward is that Anastasia has been 384 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 2: caught up in a little bit of controversy during the 385 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 2: UK's lockdown. So a number of followers have accused her 386 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 2: of breaking lockdown rules. I mean, for a while, there 387 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 2: was this video on TikTok going around that she was 388 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 2: out with some guy that she didn't even know down 389 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 2: at the shops, and that was at a time where 390 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 2: you weren't meant to meet up with any Byron, No, 391 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 2: that was another guy she was rumored to be out with. Well, 392 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 2: I was watching this video recently where she took her 393 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 2: friends out to all these different places to eat because 394 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 2: they're now allowed in the UK to eat. 395 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: At restaurants and cafes. 396 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 2: And they also did a mook bug at home where 397 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: they were just like using the same like drinking from 398 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 2: the same bottle too, and drinking from the same straw. 399 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: When did that? 400 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 2: When was that even acceptable before COVID Because I would 401 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 2: never go and take a drink out of it, you know, 402 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 2: they're Starbucks and share it around. I mean I don't 403 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 2: even I wouldn't even share my drink bottle with you guys, 404 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 2: and came from the same womb. 405 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: But I found that disference. Some people are like that, 406 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: but talking about the other. 407 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 2: Contrast not during a pandemic, No. 408 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: Not during a pandemic. 409 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: Well, she there's been a lot of questions over things 410 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 2: she's done during the pandemic. She was also seen to 411 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: be hanging out with Becker, who we spoke about last week. 412 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 2: So that is Becker Carriage, who is a Manchester influencer, 413 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 2: and it's quite hilarious because a listener from Manchester that's 414 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 2: in our Facebook community let us know that apparently Becker 415 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 2: isn't really well known there at all, and she's a 416 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 2: bit of a wanna be influencer who allegedly has sort 417 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 2: of bought her following. 418 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 3: Well. 419 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: I think we did describe her as a clout chaser. 420 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: Was yeah, apparently that seems quite true. I do love 421 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: that people from the UK listening to the podcast. 422 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 2: It excites me so much. I feel like that's our 423 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 2: spiritual home. Our grandma was born in Chelsea, so well, 424 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: getting back to the incident with Becker, so it was 425 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 2: alleged that Anastasia hung out with her while Becker was 426 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 2: supposed to be isolating and Becker, of course, as we 427 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 2: discussed last week, actually does have COVID. Now, the other 428 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 2: thing that she was held accountable for was she posted 429 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 2: a lot of vlogs where she was out traveling around 430 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 2: in the UK, and I have to say it was 431 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 2: actually allowed at. 432 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: The time, but I think it was advised to kind of. 433 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 2: Was found a pone deaf, so Anasaja shared about her 434 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 2: experience with the COVID vaccine and did you guys know 435 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 2: that Instagram has actually created this little gift that says, 436 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 2: let's get vaccinated. 437 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: I was surprised. Yeah, they do it for voting and 438 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: all sorts of things. 439 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 2: I actually think it's great that the NHS have got 440 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 2: influences on board. I would love to see the meeting 441 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 2: where they worked out who the influencers were, because even 442 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 2: in Adelaide, you know Nicholas Spirier, I can just imagine 443 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 2: her being briefed on, oh okay, this is shiny Grimman. 444 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: She's really popular. She should be one of our influence. 445 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 2: Do you think that they missed the mark though, by 446 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 2: getting Anastasia, who has had a few indiscretions over the lockdown. 447 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 3: No. 448 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 2: I actually think despite the fact that she may have 449 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 2: done the wrong thing in the past, she's very much 450 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 2: done the right thing now and actually promoted such an 451 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 2: important thing to her young and impressional followers. I suppose 452 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 2: where it gets murky for me is what she paid 453 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 2: for it. Well, that's what I was gonna ask. I mean, 454 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 2: I don't have any information. There was nothing in the 455 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 2: Guardian article about whether these influencers were in fact getting paid. 456 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 2: So do you guys think that is an issue if 457 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 2: they're paid, Well, I don't know. I kind of think 458 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 2: if they're using their platform for good, then maybe they 459 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 2: should be paid for it. 460 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. 461 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 2: I feel like when you're an influencer or a celebrity, 462 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 2: you're obviously getting paid a lot of money, and there's 463 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 2: a lot of perks to having that type of profile 464 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 2: that I think there's some things that you should just 465 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 2: do that's from a moral perspective, because again, it's something 466 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: that's based on your belief. 467 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 5: Oh. 468 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 2: I actually I do agree with you, Kate, because it 469 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 2: is pretty bad. We all should be doing our part 470 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 2: to promote vaccinations and the fact that it is the 471 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 2: way forward for everybody. You get me thinking about how 472 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 2: this sort of promotion would work in Australia and what 473 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 2: the reaction would be. Because currently Australians under forty aren't 474 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 2: eligible for the fires A vaccine, so I wonder how 475 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: Australians would react if the government decided to utilize young 476 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 2: influencers to promote the vaccine and let them push in front. 477 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 2: I think people would be annoyed, but I could see 478 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 2: the greater good from it. If they are able to 479 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 2: influence people to get the vaccine, then I wouldn't see 480 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 2: anything wrong with it. 481 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: However, I think. 482 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 2: It's pretty clever that the UK are getting these influencers 483 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 2: who do have a younger demographic to promote the vaccine 484 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 2: because now the younger people in the UK are eligible 485 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 2: to get the vaccine. Well, I definitely think that they 486 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 2: also waited when to roll out these use of influences 487 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 2: as well. They've obviously waited until it is available for 488 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 2: younger people. It is interesting though, because there was a 489 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 2: recent article in the Telegraph just yesterday saying that unfortunately 490 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 2: numbers are still low of young people wanting to take 491 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 2: up the vaccine. I do wonder if any rules come 492 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,479 Speaker 2: into place about traveling overseas vaccinating. I'm sure then we'll 493 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 2: see a huge spike in people wanting to take it out. 494 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,239 Speaker 1: One will be lining up for it. Bye, I'm going 495 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 1: to give that woman a peter of my mind. 496 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 3: Please calm down, No, Peter, I will not be becalmed. 497 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,719 Speaker 4: Wait I had I never thought I'd putter these words 498 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 4: the Holiday from Hell. 499 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 2: Rumors are swirling that a new Netflix documentary on the 500 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 2: Free Britney saga is causing key parties involved in Britney 501 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 2: Spears's life career to flee. Celebrity gossip account des Mois 502 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 2: shared a screenshot from an anonymous source alleging word on 503 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 2: the street is the Netflix documentary is done and it's scolding, 504 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 2: hence a lot of people jumping ship this week to 505 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 2: remove themselves from it. Demis asked any idea when it 506 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 2: will come out? The anonymous poster replied, my friend said 507 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 2: a trailer is ready to go, so not sure. Demi replied, 508 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 2: you think the resigning has to do with a dock 509 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 2: or a culmination of things? The anonymous poster replied, culmination. 510 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 2: So for those who aren't aware of the key parties 511 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 2: involved that have jumped ship, the first was the Besmer 512 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 2: Trust Now they were the firm hired to oversee Britney's 513 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 2: financial affairs alongside her dad, Jamie Spears. The second was 514 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 2: Britney's longtime manager, Larry Rudolph, who resigned this week after 515 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 2: managing Brittany for twenty five years. He wrote in a 516 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 2: letter to Britney's conservatorship, it's been over two and a 517 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 2: half years since Brittany and Night last communicated, at which time, 518 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 2: she informed me she wanted to take an indefinite work hiatus. 519 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 2: Early today, I became aware that Brittany has been voicing 520 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 2: her intention to officially retire as her manager. I believe 521 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 2: it is Brittany's best interest for me to resign from 522 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 2: her team, as my professional services are no longer required. 523 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 2: So the third person to leave the Britney SIS team 524 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 2: was her lawyer, Sam Ingham, who was appointed by a 525 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 2: court to represent Britney's legal arrangements. On Tuesday, he resigned 526 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 2: from her conservatorship. This is all really odd, isn't it. Well. 527 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 2: I mean, it makes sense that a lot of people 528 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 2: are wanting to remove themselves from this situation, because ever 529 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 2: since Brittany spoke out in her own words, the shit 530 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 2: has definitely hit the fan. We have had confirmation that 531 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 2: Brittany is not happy with this arrangement. I do feel 532 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 2: like there must be some truth to the rumor that 533 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 2: du Mois has shared regarding this explosive Netflix doc o, 534 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,719 Speaker 2: because I would if I was one of these people, 535 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 2: I would want to get myself as far away from this. 536 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: Situation as possible. 537 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I know that the situation has changed dramatically 538 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 2: in the last couple of weeks since Britney's gone on 539 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 2: the record and said that she is not okay with 540 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 2: the conservative ship. 541 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: They just look guilty though, Yeah I can. 542 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 2: I cannot wait until this Netflix dot com comes out. 543 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 2: It's quite interesting because their art reports that Eronly Carr 544 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 2: is directing the Brittany Netflix doco, and she has been 545 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 2: involved in other controversial documentaries, including At the Heart of 546 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 2: Gold Inside the US Gymnastics scandal. 547 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: Oh wow. 548 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 2: The thing is, we'll probably only see it in like 549 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 2: six months time, because can you imagine the lawyers that 550 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 2: have to look over this documentary to make sure it's okay. 551 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 2: I think they'll push it through pretty quick. 552 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: We'll take a heart, cakes and sausage. 553 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 4: Sorry, so we stopped serving breakfast. 554 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 3: We're talking about were four seconds late? 555 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: No, you're thirty minutes and four seconds late. We stop 556 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: serving breakfast at ten thirty. 557 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:42,719 Speaker 2: Ah, horseshit. 558 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 3: No no, no, don't cry. 559 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. 560 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 3: I wasn't cursing at you. 561 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: I was cursing at the lady k sparenting. 562 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 3: Hey, thanks my therapist, take a walk. You want a 563 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 3: happy meal? We'll get you one of those happy meals. 564 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 3: Do you got a happy meal? 565 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 4: Can we get a happy meal, We'll stop to get you. 566 00:23:58,440 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 3: You're the happy Meal. 567 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 2: I'm with. Toy star Jemma Collins has confirmed she is 568 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 2: back with her ex fiance Remy and they. 569 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 1: Are trying for a baby. Oh my gosh. 570 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 2: So Gemma revealed the news on the Love Lounge podcast, 571 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 2: which she hosts. She said, I've got a lovely partner 572 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 2: now and I'm very happy. I never saw that coming 573 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 2: and I never predicted it. This is what I'm saying. 574 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 2: You really have to let go of your past and 575 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 2: move on to the future because everyone's Prince Charming is 576 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 2: out there somewhere and I'm looking forward to having a 577 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 2: love of summer now. This episode was the last of 578 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 2: the series and she teased listeners that she could be 579 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 2: coming back to the next series, Pregnant. It seems like 580 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 2: things have moved pretty quickly, particularly in the last twenty 581 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 2: four hours. So because you were telling me Erbatum that 582 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 2: Gemma Collins said that she was going to be single 583 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 2: forever after rumors circulated that her ex Arge had gotten 584 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 2: back with his ex Lydia, now both of them were on. 585 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: It seems like. 586 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 2: Things definitely move quickly in Essex. Now, how are they 587 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 2: not filming toy right now. Like these characters, they should 588 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 2: all be on The Only Ways Essex. 589 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: Maybe they'll bring it back. 590 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 2: Well, Jemma was spotted actually huddling up to Remy at 591 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 2: her friend Dawn Ward, who she does speak a lot 592 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 2: about on her podcast Gender Reveal Party, back in June, 593 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 2: but she insisted at the time that she and Remy 594 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 2: were just having fun. 595 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: I'd love you say back in June. It's like June eleven. 596 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 2: No, it's July eleventh. Sorry, it was a month ago. Okay, 597 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 2: come on, do you know what that Dawn? She's on 598 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 2: the Real Housewives of Cheshire and if anyone hasn't seen it, 599 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 2: do and watch it. 600 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: It is absolute gold. 601 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So there have been rumors that the pair 602 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 2: have been dating for about six months now. Now for 603 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 2: those who haven't seen Remy on the show, to give 604 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 2: a bit of background, he owns a car mechanic repairs 605 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 2: company and he and Gemma dated on and off for 606 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 2: three years until twenty fourteen. 607 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: Well that's pretty cute because. 608 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 2: She used to work when she was on the first 609 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 2: series of Toli at a car like she was a 610 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 2: car sales person. Well, they've obviously got a bit in common. 611 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 2: Have you guys heard how he proposed No, it's actually 612 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 2: so cute. I feel like this would be perfect for 613 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 2: one of us, just putting the ideas out there. So 614 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 2: back in twenty thirteen, he proposed to jemmacollins by hiding 615 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 2: a diamond rene in her Christmas pudding. It's better than 616 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 2: a two dollar coin because Gemma loves Christmas as well, 617 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 2: so that sounds like a perfect proposal for her. Well, 618 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 2: I'm really hoping that this is going to be third 619 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 2: time lucky for the pair, because they did rekindle things 620 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 2: back in twenty seventeen when Gemma was seen sporting the 621 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 2: engagement ring in a couple of paparazzi photos. God, she 622 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 2: really seems to go back and forth between her exes 623 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 2: because she's got back with Arch quite a few times. 624 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 2: I want to know more about Arje and Lydia because 625 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 2: all I can sort of remember of their romance was 626 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 2: the fact that Arge bought Lydia a pig and it 627 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 2: was meant to be a micro pig, but it was 628 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 2: actually just a regular pig. 629 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: Well, they were actually childhood sweethearts. 630 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 2: They dated for about seven years on and off before 631 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 2: splitting in twenty sixteen, and it's really cute because they 632 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 2: were spotted in paparazzi photos where Lydia attended Arja's sister's 633 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 2: wedding and they looked very cozy. At the wedding, they 634 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,719 Speaker 2: actually danced together, and they have also been spotted well 635 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 2: Lydia was spotted leaving his house because they actually live 636 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 2: only a few streets away from each other. 637 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: Still do we find it cute? 638 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 2: Wasn't Arge very destructive and didn't really treat me very nice? 639 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 1: Grown up? Well, she actually has a one year old child. 640 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 2: She recently split from her ex well before the baby 641 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 2: was born, So I don't know. They're both single at 642 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 2: the moment. I don't think it's too far over stretch 643 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 2: to think that they're back together. I always wanted to 644 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 2: see Germa and Arge together. I kind of like them 645 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 2: as a pair better. 646 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: Mister Darcy, your parents are here. He used to look 647 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 1: a lot cute at when he was a baby. Now 648 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: he looks a bit ugoi. 649 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 2: I was told he's a micropig. 650 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: Did you take your money? 651 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 3: Gez? The geeze absolutely robbed me. 652 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 2: Love Island UK's Hugo Hammond was left in tears last 653 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 2: week after offending fellow Islanders Faye and Sharon. During a challenge, 654 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 2: Hugo revealed his biggest turn off in a partner was 655 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 2: fakeness in both personality and looks, which struck a chord 656 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 2: with Sharon and Fay, who have both had cosmetic procedures. Firstly, 657 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 2: what did you guys make a few ghost comments? I 658 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 2: just think they've been blown completely out of proportion. I 659 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 2: don't think I think that he meant any offense to any. 660 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: Of the girls there. 661 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 2: I can see how they could have been offended because 662 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 2: the producers made sure that he kept saying like fake, fake, 663 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 2: and you could see that they were just getting more 664 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 2: and more pissed off. Because, for those who haven't seen it, 665 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 2: his role was quiz master, so he and his partner Chloe, 666 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 2: he had to ask the other Islanders' questions and they 667 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 2: sort of wrote their partner's answer down on the board. So, 668 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 2: as you said, he was asked what his biggest turn 669 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,959 Speaker 2: off was, so he reported back. However, on the bleachers, 670 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 2: all the girls are going wild saying what a dickhead? 671 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 2: Do you think that maybe he could have chosen the 672 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 2: word or said that he likes natural girls better. 673 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: That might have been but. 674 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 2: I think fake has a very negative connotation to it. 675 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: But what I was most impressed by was his response, Yeah, 676 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 2: I just want to get back to the comments though, 677 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 2: because I feel like we've heard people say far worse 678 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 2: comments about I mean, the women are always a lot 679 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 2: of the girls are always saying, oh, I don't want 680 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 2: to be with the short guy. Aaron said he didn't 681 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 2: like hair on women's arm. 682 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: But there were the whole point of the quiz. 683 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 2: What there was to be quite specific about what turns 684 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 2: you on, what you like in a person, what you 685 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 2: don't like. And I feel like, as you said, the 686 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 2: comments were taken out of context because this was a 687 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 2: situation where you're flat out told what do you like, 688 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 2: what do you don't like? What do The producers definitely 689 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 2: set him up for this one, because not to be stereotypical, 690 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 2: but a lot of the women on this show do 691 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 2: get cosmetic surgery, so clearly they know that that's his dislike, 692 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 2: and I feel like they tried to really push it 693 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 2: and get some sort of reaction. 694 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: I mean, but is that that offensive? 695 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: Because there might be a guy who says I really 696 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 2: love fake boobs. I've heard people say that on Love 697 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 2: Island before, and I just think that's his type. Is 698 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 2: he likes a natural girl? Some of them like the 699 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 2: girls who've had some work done. Well, that's what I 700 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 2: was thinking, Like, what's the difference nowadays? Because cosmetic enhancements 701 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 2: are so normal, a lot of people have them. So really, 702 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 2: what's the difference between saying I like a brunette with 703 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 2: brunettes generally naturally brunette, or like a blonde, which is 704 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 2: usually from a bottle. What's the difference saying if I 705 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 2: like a natural girl or I don't like her cosmetically. 706 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: At hanced, a lot of the. 707 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 2: Girls say that, oh I like someone who's been to 708 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 2: the gym. 709 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I mean. They're quite rude 710 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: about it. 711 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 2: Has said that to Toby, she said, oh, well, typically 712 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 2: you're not my type because you don't go to the gym. 713 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: Well, Sharon was. 714 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 2: Really pissed off by Hugo's comments. And it's quite interesting 715 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 2: because Aaron got put off by Sharon's response, so she said, 716 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 2: get fucking educated as to why girls get work done. 717 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 2: She also said, he literally has grafted two girls in 718 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 2: here who look like they've had work done. I'm fucking 719 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 2: pissed off. Girls do it to boost their confidence, and 720 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 2: I don't think that should be a negative thing. 721 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry, but I don't think. 722 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 2: There's anything wrong with saying that someone is not your 723 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 2: type and that's one of your turn offs. 724 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: I mean, if yeah. 725 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 2: But I think the issue was that he called them 726 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 2: called it fake. 727 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: I think he can exactly say they're fake. 728 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 2: I do. The thing is I think that Sharon's got 729 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 2: a point that a lot of guys probably wouldn't understand 730 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 2: why some women go to the knife, and Fate did 731 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 2: talk about it a little bit more. Hugo she said 732 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 2: that she has grown She had grown up really insecure 733 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 2: because she felt underdeveloped, and she said from thirteen to 734 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 2: eighteen she was in tears most nights because she just 735 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 2: didn't have any boobs, and that her parents had got 736 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 2: her breast implants for eighteenth birthday. 737 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: A lot of the. 738 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 2: Fans of Love Island and the UK weren't really impressed 739 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 2: by Fay's comments. So because Hugo was actually born with 740 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 2: a club foot, so he is the first person to 741 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 2: go into Love Island UK with the disability, and they're saying, 742 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 2: here's Flay Fay blubbering about not having any boobs, and 743 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 2: this guy's actually been is actually grown up with the disability. Yeah, 744 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 2: and that's the whole thing for me, is okay, I 745 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,719 Speaker 2: think he could have chosen his words better. The thing is, 746 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 2: I don't think he should have used the word fake 747 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 2: in that setting. I think he was naive for using 748 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 2: the word fake. I don't think he meant any malice 749 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 2: by it. But I was very impressed with his apology. 750 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 2: It seemed very genuine. He cried, and I don't think 751 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 2: he was just turning tears on it all. I think 752 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 2: he legitimately felt bad, and that may stem from the 753 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 2: fact that he has had to struggle with having a 754 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 2: club foot. 755 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: But not once did he mention it, did you know? 756 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: It's not once? 757 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 2: And he actually really listened to what each of the 758 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 2: girls had to say, and you could tell that he 759 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 2: had really taken their feedback on board. I actually think 760 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 2: that Sharon and Fay felt bad after they totally overreacted 761 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 2: and they made him out to be the bad guy, when, 762 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 2: as you said, it was just a comment that was 763 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 2: really misinterpreted. 764 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: You know what. 765 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 2: I found the boy's response really interesting because as you 766 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 2: touched on Sharon's partner, Aaron actually got very turned off 767 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 2: by Sharon standing up for herself, and that is one 768 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 2: attribute that a lot of Love Island fans have really 769 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 2: enjoyed about Sharon, the fact that she is willing to 770 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 2: stick up for herself. So it was quite funny because 771 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 2: then two new girls were bought in while the girls 772 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 2: were all off on their little lunch date, which you 773 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 2: knew that was going to happen, and these two attractive 774 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 2: blondes roll in and all of a sudden, the boy's 775 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 2: eyes have lit up and they're all like, no, we 776 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 2: just want it, like we just like chill girl, an 777 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,479 Speaker 2: easygoing girl that you know doesn't like drama. 778 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,959 Speaker 1: And I thought, fucking typical. Yeah, yes it is. 779 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 2: It's like, Okay, a woman's a bit too much hard 780 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 2: work because she is voicing her opinion. 781 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: Is one of the only decent guys. 782 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 2: I quite like Toby. He's grown on me a bit more. 783 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 2: I actually I actually quite like Aaron. And I know 784 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 2: you're talking about Aaron saying he doesn't like drama, But 785 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 2: in that instance, I think Sharon is great. I think 786 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 2: that she's a strong woman, but I also think that 787 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 2: she was very rude to Hugo in front of a 788 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 2: lot of people. I think that was one of the 789 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 2: major turn offs I did. It did pisce me off though, 790 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 2: for them to say that they didn't like drama, because 791 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 2: it's like, oh, we just want to say girl to 792 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 2: sit at home and it wout up in the corner. 793 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 2: It was more Brad. I think that annoyed me when 794 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 2: he said it. I think with Aaron, he was actually 795 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 2: initially attracted to Sharon because of her personality and her intelligence. However, 796 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 2: I think that he was slightly put off at the 797 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,959 Speaker 2: brunch when she said that she had dated lawyers and 798 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 2: doctors before and that she didn't want chill. I think 799 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 2: he was sort of trying to work out how he 800 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 2: would fit into her busy life. There's obviously a lot 801 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 2: more that goes on behind the scenes that were not 802 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 2: privy to. Just back to Hugo's comment, Should it be 803 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 2: Hugo that were annoyed about or should it be Love 804 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 2: Ireland for praying on the girl's insecurities. For the guys 805 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 2: to be detailing what they like physically about the women 806 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,919 Speaker 2: in the house, they asked the girls the same question. 807 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 2: I don't think we should be angry at anybody because 808 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 2: the boys were being asked the same kind of questions 809 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 2: as well. 810 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,720 Speaker 1: Do you know what I reckon? The reason that. 811 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 2: Sharon and Fay got annoyed was because the boys had 812 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 2: previously admitted that they all fancied Chloe, that if they 813 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,919 Speaker 2: weren't with their partner, they'd be with Chloe and she's 814 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 2: most natural. Well she's got fake boobs, so she said 815 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 2: she had fake book. Yeah, but I think that they 816 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 2: took it really personally and they thought, oh gosh, none 817 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 2: of the boys like us, And then there was another 818 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,800 Speaker 2: sort of punch to them about the fakery comment. 819 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:52,879 Speaker 1: Do you also think you know. 820 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 2: With the challenges, obviously before they enter the villa, they've. 821 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: Written down their answers. 822 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,760 Speaker 2: Do you think this was a circumstance where he'd already 823 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 2: written down his turn offs, so he felt like he 824 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 2: had to say that's a good point because they're trying 825 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 2: to win points for the group, so I think they're 826 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,439 Speaker 2: usually given alcohol or something if they win, they're given 827 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 2: a prize. So, as you said, the producers have on 828 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 2: the piece of paper, Hugo's turn off is fake women, 829 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,280 Speaker 2: and he's probably looking at all the women going fuck. 830 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 2: A lot of them do have cosmetic surgery. But I 831 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 2: still want to win the prize, So he's thinking, do 832 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 2: I do it for the team, or do I offend people. 833 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 2: I honestly don't think he thought that the comment was 834 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 2: that offensive, and maybe he doesn't deem those women to 835 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 2: actually fit into that criteria of being fair. 836 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: I mean he might. 837 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 2: Also be more referring to fake personalities too. 838 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: Well, he said fake personalities fake in appearance. I am 839 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: very keen to see what else unfolds. 840 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 2: We are recording our chat about Love Island on Friday night, 841 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 2: so I'm sure a lot more is going to happen. Well, 842 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 2: I'd love to hear what everybody else thinks. Go to 843 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,439 Speaker 2: our Facebook community, which has outspoken the podcast community. Well, 844 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 2: I think that's all we've got time for today. 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