1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Whom wore you that bite sized what the hunted hot 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: show on TV right now wards setting a whole bunch 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: of people loose in the Melbourne CBN and the only 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: rule is find them and they get the best in 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: the biers to go and look for these guys using 6 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: whatever means necessary. 7 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: I'm talking choppers, dogs. We've got the guy who's in 8 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: charge of the hunt, the Huntsman himself, doctor David Craig. 9 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 3: You joins us right now, Thank you. That's a heck 10 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 3: of an entrance. Thank you. 11 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: Now, mate, you've worked for three prime ministers I have previously. 12 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:34,639 Speaker 2: What was harder finding these guys or finding Tony Abbott's integrity? 13 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 3: Oh you're starting with soft questions. Then let's just say 14 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 3: finding these people was pretty well pretty hard. It was 15 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 3: pretty hard. Both tasks were pretty hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 16 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 3: over the time. 17 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 4: So can you run through your credentials? So I was 18 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 4: working for three prime ministers? But what other work have 19 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 4: you done in the past to give you, you know, 20 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 4: the position of chief hunter in this show. 21 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 5: I had an uncanny knack for being in the wrong 22 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 5: place at the wrong time or the right place at. 23 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 3: The right time. 24 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: Do you mean by that like in terms of. 25 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 3: Okay, I'll give you an example being struck a lot 26 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 3: around you, yes. 27 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 5: Sort of, okay, ninety ninety four five tons of hashes 28 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 5: brought in through a place at Harvey Bay. Only eight 29 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 5: hundred kilos is found. 30 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 3: Where's the AFP? Can't find the rest? We are looking 31 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 3: for it. We know, we know they've brought it in. 32 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 3: Old Junior Connie with the tar pole and over you use. 33 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 3: At that stage they asked me, you know. 34 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 5: Oh, can you go and look up? The crime scene 35 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 5: has already been searched. Blah blah blah. Yeah, no way. 36 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 5: So I'll go on to crawl in and I'm just 37 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 5: by myself and it's sort of the middle of the night, 38 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 5: and I'm just guarding his yacht, you know, this crawler 39 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 5: called the Paulson, and it's listing to one side. 40 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 3: It doesn't seem to make sense. Why is it? You know? 41 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 3: And I was actually worried about it sinking. This is nighttime. 42 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 5: So I've crawled down underneath the decks and along and 43 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 5: then there's this wall and I've got that's strange. So 44 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 5: I broke the fiberglass off and there's three point four 45 00:01:55,640 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 5: tons in there. So yeah, and it's like I was 46 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 5: the only one that knew it was there because I'm 47 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 5: there by myself with this little pea shooter, and all 48 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 5: the organized crooks with their ouzies and street sweeping shotguns. 49 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 5: They know it's there, and they know it's worth two 50 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 5: hundred and twenty million dollars. 51 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: Wow. 52 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't need a coffee right then? 53 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: Wow? 54 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 3: So how did you play that? Sorry I didn't. 55 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 5: Say, oh yeah, yeah, well I contacted customs were the 56 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 5: closest law enforcement thing, and they carry a shotgun for 57 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 5: crocodiles and things like that, so I got that. Guys, 58 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 5: get down here, so at least I had a shot crocodiles. 59 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 3: And the shotgun. 60 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: Yeah. 61 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 4: Sorry, sorry, you're there by yourself with just a shotgun 62 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 4: that usually shoots crocodiles. Yeah, that's your only protection from 63 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 4: ouzy wielding marfiosa's Yeah that's right. 64 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, hell yeah, but I could run pretty quick if 65 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 3: they turned up. I just make it look good. Wow 66 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 3: you mate? 67 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 2: So you so you're at the cutting edge of. 68 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 3: This sort of stuff. 69 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 2: After a while, after you found yourself in a few 70 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: different boats with tons of hashe which you didn't use. 71 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: Of course, No, in that sort of situation, You've got 72 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: like three point four tons of hash in front of 73 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: you with. 74 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 3: How much is that? Two hundred and twenty million? 75 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 2: Gee, mercy, it's got to be a devil sitting on 76 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: your shoulder there somewhere though, right, No. 77 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 3: You I've got to have a soft pillow at night. 78 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 4: So yeah, wow, Will's pillows very hard. 79 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 3: It's full of hash. But it's a fascinating position to 80 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 3: be in. Though. 81 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: You can see why there's so much corruption in a 82 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 2: monthst you know, these like border protection people, because when 83 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 2: you're confronted with that amount of money in that substance 84 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 2: and as you said, you buy yourself yeah absolutely, you know, 85 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: get blackmailed and that sort of stuff. 86 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, precarious spot yeah, yeah, you've got to be really 87 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 3: sure who you are. 88 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, and you can you could be swayed, you know, like, yeah, 89 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 5: the biggest nightmare is coming across and it has happened 90 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 5: to me where you come across a large sum of 91 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 5: cash and you're the only person there. That's right, Because 92 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 5: the frightening thing is any allegation could be made a meeting, 93 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 5: it's immediately like reverse out of the room, pull someone in, 94 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 5: get photos. 95 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 3: I haven't been in here yet. Get forensics to prove 96 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 3: I haven't been there. Wow, what a process. Yeah, and 97 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 3: it's just because you need to I haven't got integrity. 98 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 3: It shouldn't be a go. 99 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 5: Yeah. 100 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 4: Did anyone try to bluff you? In the new Channel 101 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 4: ten show Hunted? I mean, these people that ran away 102 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 4: can make one hundred thousand dollars if they stay hidden. 103 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 4: Did they attempt to find you or find out who 104 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 4: the Hunters were? 105 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 5: I understand that there were some see I don't know 106 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 5: what they did. WHI I'm watching each episode and I'm 107 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 5: seeing things that I didn't see, Like when Chris and 108 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 5: Panite drove past our ground Hunters. I never knew that 109 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 5: happened until last night because I may only know it 110 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 5: from the operations room. I know when we get there 111 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 5: in the truck, but I don't know the near missus 112 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 5: and things right. 113 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 3: So it's I'm loving every episode. It's a great hot show. 114 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 3: We're going to talk about it more. 115 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: Right up next, we've got more with doctor David Craig 116 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 2: from Channel ten's The Hunted, which is on tonight the 117 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 2: finale on Channel ten. 118 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 3: Make sure you watch that. We got more with doctor 119 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 3: Dave Creid. 120 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: Right up next, we've got David Craig, who joins US, 121 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 2: is the Chief Hunter, an international COVID operations specialist. Finale 122 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: of the Hundred airs tonight on Channel ten. 123 00:04:58,400 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 3: Mate. 124 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 2: Can I ask you, I've got a silly question, I've 125 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 2: got and I've got a regulation question. First question, Your 126 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: job is literally finding things? Yes, Whenever I need to 127 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 2: find something in my house, I look for about fifteen 128 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 2: seconds and then my partner comes and gets it for me. 129 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. No, No. I asked if I could call my 130 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: wife and get her in. They wouldn't let me do it. 131 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 4: I can I ask you if I said to you 132 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 4: right now, disappear me and we're going to come and 133 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 4: look for you, and you've got ten minutes to disappear 134 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 4: from this studio. Yeah, what's your first move? 135 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 3: Female toilets? Oh yeah, you'd get me, and you'd get me. 136 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 3: I wouldn't go in there. You can strike that up there. 137 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 3: He's a doctor. 138 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 4: What if manhunter, there's a huge man hunter you robbed 139 00:05:58,839 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 4: a bank or something? 140 00:05:59,680 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 141 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 4: Is there? 142 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 3: Is it wrong for you to give away what you 143 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 3: would do now? 144 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: Is that? 145 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 5: One of the things I had an agreement with is 146 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 5: that I wouldn't be part of devolting anything that law 147 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 5: enforcement hasn't been public before, there is nothing for you, 148 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 5: So okay, yeah, if a crook's watching this and they're 149 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 5: learning from. 150 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 3: It, yeah. 151 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, then making notes, Yeah yeah, then then they're 152 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 5: bugget anyway. 153 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I. 154 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 2: Feel like one of the first things, like, I'm just 155 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: sort of I like watching these sorts of movies, so 156 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 2: I've got a few in my headlined up. But my 157 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 2: first thing would always be this is hilarious because I've 158 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 2: got a shaved head. 159 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 3: I don't over any hair left. 160 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 2: But change your hair in some way. Yeah, so i'd 161 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 2: go and get a wig or change your clothes. Yeah, 162 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 2: so you look different to what you looked like when 163 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: they first got a shot of you. 164 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I mean changing, changing your career And 165 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 3: is that happening a lot on the show? Do they 166 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 3: try that at all? 167 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, I've seen since i've been watching, because I haven't 168 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 5: seen before. So yeah, yeah, I've been some quite unusual 169 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 5: that the Rest and the Noune walking together in a field. 170 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 3: With a dog. It didn't look like them, but it'd 171 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 3: sure get our attention if we drove past. 172 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 2: Yeah okay, okay, but they're but they're being quite nimble 173 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: in terms like there actually are, they're they're right Acrossbviously 174 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: the guys that are left, I mean, how we ever 175 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 2: got left fight three of them tonight. Yeah, they've obviously 176 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: been in credit. Like you must have been impressed by 177 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 2: how good they've been. 178 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 4: Absolutely and how much as a percentage on not as 179 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 4: a percentage, but how much of its digital footprint these 180 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 4: days when you're when you're looking for someone, how much 181 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 4: of it's looking at digital footprint as opposed to physically 182 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 4: you figuring out where they are? 183 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 5: Almost ninety percent digital? If you know it's it really 184 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 5: is digital. I mean using cameras, Yeah, all cameras, every 185 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 5: every other electronic device that you could credit, card, phones, phones, dogs, 186 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 5: even though dogs aren't. 187 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 3: Really but black mirror. All of a sudden, they really 188 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 3: blue the budget they've got robot. Oh I shouldn't let 189 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 3: that go. Wow, well made good luck for tonight. 190 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 2: The final of Hunted is tonight, Channel ten. 191 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say eight thirty seven thirty seven thirty haven't 192 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 3: got that on my sheet. You guys know I needed 193 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 3: on the shed. 194 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 4: Come, I ask you if they if someone wins tonight. 195 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 4: So there's there's three Rob Jakin staffy are still in it. 196 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 4: If someone wins tonight, is that for you? I don't 197 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 4: want to say embarrassing, but are you like, Oh, I've 198 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 4: I've embarrassed myself because I couldn't find them. 199 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 5: Not embarrassed. But we haven't done well enough. Well, I've 200 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 5: said from the start, after doing all the research of 201 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 5: all the hundred series around the world, and I'll watch 202 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 5: every single episode. Wow, there is no reason why Australians 203 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 5: can't be the best at it. And that's the standard 204 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,599 Speaker 5: I hold our people too, and they all know it. 205 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 5: And if anyone makes it to the finish line, that's 206 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 5: a fail. 207 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 2: Wow. 208 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 3: Awesome. 209 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 4: Watch it tonight everyone, yeees. 210 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 2: And what's the punishment there? 211 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, what are you doing? I'm not allowed 212 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 3: the water board anymore. 213 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 2: Yeah? Days all right, hundred tonight seven thirty gentle ten, 214 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 2: that's the finale, Doctor David Kate's been a pleasure to 215 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 2: have you in the studio. 216 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 3: Make good luck. I hope well we see you for 217 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,599 Speaker 3: next season. Thanks very much, guys. You more of the 218 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 3: boys on the full podcast just scroll up.