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Speaker 1: The Lord Mayor of Darwin Combat Scarlets, joins me in

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Speaker 1: the studio.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, con.

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Speaker 3: Good morning Kate, and what the beautiful week has been

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Speaker 3: with all this rain coming dar Isn't it good? I

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Speaker 3: don't have to pay for watering my plants.

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Speaker 2: What about the council? Do we still have to do?

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Speaker 2: You still have to do? You turn the sprinklers off

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Speaker 2: for a bit.

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Speaker 3: Or some of most of them are automatic only when

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Speaker 3: something goes wrong. So my five and sixty nine trees

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Speaker 3: will be watered, and my sixty thousand bushes, they'll be

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Speaker 3: watered and I don't have to pay for it, which

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Speaker 3: is great. And they will grow fast.

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Speaker 2: Are you trading them like they're your baby's corn? Do

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Speaker 2: you talk to them?

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Speaker 3: You walk down the straations, baby, it's more flowers and

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Speaker 3: next morning all they come out. You know they need

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Speaker 3: some tilc you know, they're living things. They grow, they die,

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Speaker 3: and most of the time they flower.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think I think it is going to

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Speaker 1: be wonderful. The city is going to be incredibly beautiful

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Speaker 1: and grain and the northern suburbs, which is you.

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Speaker 3: Can talk to your plants, Kate. You have to worry

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Speaker 3: where they start talking back to you.

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Speaker 2: That's right that it certainly is corn.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of grain space, this area at the centerta, the

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Speaker 1: car park there at the deck chair stairs, it's been

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Speaker 1: controversial for some time. We know that the RSL obviously

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Speaker 1: wanted to build there. Now one of your council aldermen,

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Speaker 1: as I understand it, wants to see it turned into

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Speaker 1: total green space. This isn't the first time I've heard

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Speaker 1: this argument or this discussion.

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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts.

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Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with that one, but for

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Speaker 3: the past forty years has been a car park and

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Speaker 3: that particular parcel of land is actually zoned CBD. So

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Speaker 3: before we do anything, we have to go to DYA

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Speaker 3: and change the zoning of the of the park. Make

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Speaker 3: it green space great. I don't have a problem with

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Speaker 3: that one, and make it nice, but flowers. The only

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Speaker 3: thing I spoke to Justina, I said, we have to

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Speaker 3: care that about the army because when we've got the

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Speaker 3: bombing of daw on the Queen's birthday, they tend to

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Speaker 3: bring heavy equipment in and they bring the cannons. If

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Speaker 3: you put grass there, there's no way they can actually

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Speaker 3: put the heavy equipment the cannons through it.

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Speaker 1: So we wouldn't be able to have our normal the

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Speaker 1: normal celebrations or the normal things happen.

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Speaker 3: Then we do we can, but we have to consider

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Speaker 3: the army needs and there are engineering solutions so that

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Speaker 3: it can put brick bapers actually the grass can go

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Speaker 3: through it by the same type, provide a stable area

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Speaker 3: for the heavier commit to go through. Also people with disabilities.

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Speaker 3: We've got a number of people attending the bombing of

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Speaker 3: Darwin that are the infirm or wheelchairs, so we have

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Speaker 3: to drive them somewhere very close to there rather at

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Speaker 3: the top of the end.

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Speaker 4: So we'll take this all this into consideration.

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Speaker 3: We find the engineering solution and we have another beautiful

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Speaker 3: green space.

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Speaker 4: In the full shows.

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Speaker 2: So it's going to happen.

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Speaker 3: You reckon, Yeah, I'm supporting it to nice it's a

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Speaker 3: good idea. Look, I'll support it. Just then we'll support it.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully all the other council will support it. Again, we're

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Speaker 3: thirteen individuals with one vote. It's not what the mayor wants,

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Speaker 3: is what the collective council wants.

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Speaker 1: So it's also what the people want, because you guys

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Speaker 1: are all voted in by the people.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, but there are people actually says no, we like

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Speaker 3: the KRPA because it's easier for us to go there

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Speaker 3: and Sunday afternoon.

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Speaker 4: But again, if we can make it in such a

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Speaker 4: way you can accommodate the needs of the people. And

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Speaker 4: you're grinned. Yep, there's no problem.

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Speaker 2: Well have you put it out to the people. I

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Speaker 2: ask them what they want to see happen with that space?

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 3: The role of the Olderman and the councilors and everybody

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Speaker 3: else is actually to go out and canvas their people,

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Speaker 3: so they should talk to them. I go out to

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Speaker 3: night markets every Sunday or nearly every Sunday, and I'll

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Speaker 3: tell you what I mean. So many people, many people

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Speaker 3: tell me things and I bring them back to council

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Speaker 3: and advise my officers. We have to do that. That

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Speaker 3: person complaining about this, that's our role. If you're elected

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Speaker 3: by the people, you have to listen to what the

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Speaker 2: So conn, is this the end of the plans for

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Speaker 2: the rsl oh The plan?

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Speaker 4: The end of the plan has been for a long time.

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Speaker 4: I said to you before.

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Speaker 3: When we hear bilavar Ali coming up and tell us, look,

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Speaker 3: there might be problems there because of secret sides.

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Speaker 4: That marked the end of the proposal.

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Speaker 3: And Torsel and I said, guys, you better look for

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Speaker 3: another site. It's great to have anyw RSL, but you

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Speaker 3: have to look for another site. And I think they

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Speaker 2: So so definitely no RSL there.

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Speaker 1: How much is it going to cost for that area

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Speaker 1: to be turned into green space there at the car park.

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Speaker 3: It's not going to be a enormous amount of money

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Speaker 3: because you only do it once. It's the maintenance that's

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Speaker 3: going on. But again, if you've got something that looks

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Speaker 3: and keep a look at the beautiful harbor, why not?

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Speaker 1: And so then what happens in terms of the car

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Speaker 1: parking spaces? Do you have to then make those up

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Speaker 1: somewhere else in the city or.

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Speaker 3: Now there aren't many currently, despite what people say about

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Speaker 3: forty percent of our Chinatown car park is empty. We've

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Speaker 3: got the car park which is next to the Parliament House.

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Speaker 3: There's plenty of car park. If you go further out

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Speaker 3: of the CBD in Zone B and so see their

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Speaker 3: car park empty all the time. There's no lack of

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Speaker 3: car park in the city. There's plenty of car pack

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Speaker 3: not utilized.

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Speaker 2: All right, con let's talk about these e scooters.

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Speaker 1: Now, you I believe that that lease or the.

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Speaker 2: What do you call it the deal?

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Speaker 1: I suppose you would say on the scooters it's due

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Speaker 1: to expire.

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Speaker 2: Are you going to extend us?

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Speaker 3: We're going to extend for another twelve months. We want

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Speaker 3: to get more information. What we receive is people love.

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Speaker 4: It or people hate it. The reality is peep they

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Speaker 4: love it.

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Speaker 3: At the young generation that goes from point eight to

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Speaker 3: point B peep they hated. Sometimes are the the all

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Speaker 3: the generation or pedestrians. I have to say that some

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Speaker 3: of the people who are the scooters, they don't do

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Speaker 3: the right thing right. You don't part a scooder in

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Speaker 3: the middle of the bloody footpath, put on the side yep.

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Speaker 3: I think the company and now has put penalties. If

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Speaker 3: you put it on a on a on a footpath,

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Speaker 3: your penalized, so you're paying it.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 3: I also found out lately all the helmets they actually

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Speaker 3: locked into the into the scooder, so when you pick

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Speaker 3: it up, you have to take it out of there

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Speaker 3: and put it back otherwise you're penalized. So they've done

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Speaker 3: quite a few changes with really good but it's a

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Speaker 4: People like it. They go for point eight.

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Speaker 1: Point before very little to me, they look so incredibly popular.

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Speaker 1: I see people on those the scooters all the time.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel like grabbing one myself when I've run

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Speaker 1: the deck chair stairs a few too many times and

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Speaker 1: I'm tired.

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Speaker 3: I've got these silly thoughts myself, but I never never

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Speaker 3: make them a reality. But again, why not, I'm mean

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Speaker 3: if they don't, they are rules to be followed.

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Speaker 4: If they break the rules.

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Speaker 3: They can be penalized, either by the company or if

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Speaker 3: you go down there, you know, twenty more than twenty

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Speaker 3: kilometers per hour in a place where you shouldn't be

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Speaker 3: doing it, you should be penalized.

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Speaker 2: So another twelve months and then who knows what will.

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Speaker 4: Happen after We'll find out after that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, sounds interesting and I think, well, from my opinion,

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Speaker 1: that's going to be a good thing. I actually think

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Speaker 1: it's a good thing to extend it from what I

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Speaker 1: can gather about four hundred thousand trips taken since January.

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Speaker 3: Yes, now people talk about the scooters, but don't forget

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Speaker 3: people riding bikes too. Bikes can go thirty kiloves per hour,

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Speaker 3: fort kilos per hour, fifty kilos per hour.

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Speaker 4: People have to obey to the rules.

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Speaker 3: You can legislate by the schools as much as you like,

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Speaker 3: you can't legislate against you PD well.

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Speaker 1: But also I think if we're you know, if we're

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Speaker 1: talking a lot about about different ways that we can

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Speaker 1: do things more environmentally friendly, if it means that people

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Speaker 1: aren't driving their car from one end of the city

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Speaker 1: they're catching a scooter or using a scooter, then surely

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Speaker 1: it's a good thing.

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Speaker 4: Why not.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if people choose to use scuoda, let them

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Speaker 3: use just could it. The only thing says, use it carefully,

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Speaker 3: don't injure yourself, don't insure anybody else, just follow the role.

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Speaker 4: Simplest that.

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Speaker 1: Now, where are things that with the Council's climate change policy.

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Speaker 1: I understand there's been a bit of movement in this space.

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Speaker 4: Oh yes, there is.

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Speaker 3: We now produce the discussion paper, a very detailed and

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Speaker 3: very well written discussion paper which we're going to actually

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Speaker 3: present a Council date to be adopted and be put

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Speaker 3: out for public consultation.

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Speaker 1: So what major changes can we expect as people that

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Speaker 1: live in the Darwin municipality.

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Speaker 2: What are you guys going to do differently?

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Speaker 3: Well, we're starting from every single thing about trip planting,

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Speaker 3: waste disposal, recycling, footpaths, bike paths, all the little things

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Speaker 3: that people says, oh it won't make a difference. One

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Speaker 3: of it might not collectively can. But one other thing

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Speaker 3: is read it. Consider it. If you've got any ideas,

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Speaker 3: if you got any good ideas, come and tell us.

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Speaker 3: If you think something is right, come and tell us.

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Speaker 3: That's not my book, that's not a council book. It's

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Speaker 3: our book that goes out and our collective decision. So

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Speaker 3: read it carefully. What's happening in this place. It will

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Speaker 3: affect every single of us, not one person corn.

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Speaker 2: Is there a cost attached to the changes?

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Speaker 4: Look, it's going to cot more.

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Speaker 3: It would cost even more if we do nothing, if

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Speaker 3: the climate change in such a format that we can't

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Speaker 3: do the things we take for granted.

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Speaker 4: Now, how much that will cost.

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Speaker 3: If it's too hot, if we don't have water, it

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Speaker 3: will got the severe cyclones or severe storms, and the

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Speaker 3: dam is the cost the couse, how much this will

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Speaker 3: cost you don't see it, or I have to pay

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Speaker 3: five cents more in this area. Think what will happen

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Speaker 3: in ten or twenty years time, and how much collectively

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Speaker 3: it will cost to our city, to our territory, to Australia.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's certainly becoming one of those things

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Speaker 1: that you know that any of the skeptics that are

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Speaker 1: out there, I suppose you know, even myself at different

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Speaker 1: times I've thought, well, how much are these changes going

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Speaker 1: to cost and what are the actually going to save us?

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Speaker 1: But the way of the world is changing and we

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Speaker 1: do need to change our thinking a little bit more

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Speaker 1: to make sure we're doing the right thing by the I.

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Speaker 4: Don't think that man is kept in the North of Australia.

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Speaker 3: Have you lived here for more than ten years, you

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Speaker 3: have seen yourself that things have changed. We get hotter,

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Speaker 3: we get a drier seasons, we get severe cyclones, and

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Speaker 3: we catch severe cyclons more often than we used to

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Speaker 3: get ten fifteen, twenty years ago. I lived in the

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Speaker 3: North of Australia since nineteen ninety. I've seen so many

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Speaker 3: changes in the weather that in such a short period

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Speaker 3: of time that I think, yes, the weather is changing.

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Speaker 2: Can anything else we should know about very quickly before

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Speaker 2: we wrap up the sum.

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Speaker 4: I need to tell you something, but you have to

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Speaker 4: keep it a secret.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I can do that. Not very

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Speaker 2: good with secret.

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Speaker 3: My Darwin vouchers are going to be relaunched. We're going

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Speaker 3: to have two lots, one in December, one in January,

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Speaker 3: so be prepared. We put in two hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: And on top of that today Canberra which both our system,

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Speaker 3: they launched it today and Cottering is launching their system today.

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Speaker 2: So hang on.

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Speaker 1: So December and January two lots of my Darwin vouchers

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Speaker 1: rolling out again to the value of two hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 4: And I hear in the grapevine that the Endergy might

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Speaker 4: put some money to.

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Speaker 2: Hell come you've decided to roll it out again.

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Speaker 3: Look, we don't leave the normal way as we lived before.

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Speaker 3: We still don't get the visitors we get from down south.

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Speaker 3: If you look around, yes there are some tourists, but

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Speaker 3: not as many, and usually December is very quiet. So

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Speaker 3: we try to help the local residents, and we try

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Speaker 3: to help the local businesses. From my experience and what

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Speaker 3: I hear from the businesses from the previous brought out.

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Speaker 3: It was a significant boost. Let's go through that one.

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Speaker 3: Let's survive this Christmas the way things are really bad

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Speaker 3: and tough, and then your year with vaccine coming on

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Speaker 3: and the border's opening again, it might be much better.

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Speaker 3: So we're here to help our people and help our community.

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Speaker 2: Conjust very quickly, I know this.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk next week, probably a bit more about the

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Speaker 1: lighting of the Christmas decorations and all that kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: But can you just tell me very quickly.

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Speaker 1: Are we going to need to pay for parking over

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Speaker 1: the Christmas period.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you that one.

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Speaker 3: Here has to be a concil decision tonight. But I'll

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Speaker 3: tell you what. The Christmas lights start appearing in them all.

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Speaker 3: I saw the first one yesterday and it's Merry Christmas,

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Speaker 3: not seasonal greetings or happy holidays.

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Speaker 2: Combat scarlets, good on you, good to catch up, make

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Speaker 2: thank you again. Thanks.

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Speaker 1: That's the Lord Mayor of Darwin Conbat scarlets