1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: You're listening to Mix one oh four point nine. 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 2: Well, we've still got to watch and wait situation as 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 2: I understand it at the moment when it comes to 4 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 2: declaring Brisbane a hot spot after a doctor at the 5 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: Princess Alexandra Hospital contracted the highly contagious UK strain of 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: COVID nineteen. We're also keeping a very close eye on Sydney. 7 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 3: Now. 8 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: The Chief Minister, Michael Gunner joins me in the studio 9 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 2: this morning, Chief Minister. 10 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: Good morning, Good morning Cady. Hey game not too. 11 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 2: Bad now Brisbane and Sydney are they going to be 12 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: declared hot spots or what's the situation as we speak? 13 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 4: So we had a sempsee over the weekend after dotor 14 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 4: Heggey went to the AHPPC that's the sorry for the acronyms, 15 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 4: that's the national meeting of all the Chief heal Officers 16 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 4: in the Chief Medical Officer to look at what's happening 17 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 4: in Brisbane the similar around. They looked at Sydney obviously 18 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 4: the next day. It's a low risk is the advice. 19 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 4: There's a couple of exposure sites, so we're acting with 20 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 4: caution where some people must isolate and tested. They've been 21 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 4: to those exposure sites, but we're treating it down a 22 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 4: level at this age from a hot spot based with 23 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 4: the medical device that we're getting. And as I understand 24 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 4: that other states have gone down a similar path, but 25 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 4: we're essentially watching way as you described it, Katie, and 26 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 4: what's happening there and. 27 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: Is it correct that in some of those suburbs, specifically 28 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: for Sydney, where that person, that hotel worker or the 29 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: quarantine worker I should say, had traveled too that if 30 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 2: people from the Northern Territory have been to those sports, 31 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 2: then they may need to go for a test or 32 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 2: what's the best advice at this point. 33 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 4: So I'd say go to coronavirus dot NT dot DOTU 34 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 4: because I won't be able to list all the sites 35 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 4: off top of my head. I don't want to mislead people, 36 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 4: and that will tell you if you've been here on 37 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 4: these dates, then you must isolate and test. So just 38 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 4: go double check those sites. We have put extra people 39 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 4: on the hotlines. 40 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 3: We always do this. 41 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 4: There's always a bit of a surge. We often get 42 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 4: people calling up and saying, oh's near there, do I 43 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 4: have to go get tested? But people are very good 44 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 4: about wanting to get the test and make sure they 45 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 4: do the right thing. But specifically those sites must isolate 46 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 4: and test. 47 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: Now, as I understand it, we were expecting our first 48 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: delivery of AstraZeneca that vaccine this week. 49 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: Where is it at? 50 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: Because there seems to be some real argy bargie that 51 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 2: you guys didn't order it the FEDS did. 52 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: Where's it at? 53 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 4: Yes, so I can say that I'm not wearing any 54 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 4: any fight since or seems to be a been administrative at 55 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 4: the moment. We want Astroseneca to land in Lawn Territory 56 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 4: for the Lorn Territory government prior to March twenty second. 57 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 4: We're going to use astrasenccare as part of our Phase 58 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 4: one B. The COMWELF was looking using Astrasenica as part 59 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 4: of their Phase one A. Obviously we're in the middle 60 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 4: of Phase one A. 61 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 3: Now. 62 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 4: I followed up the reports on the weekend about not 63 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 4: ordering it or not handing over the delivery address. I 64 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 4: can't find any evidence of that from out from our 65 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 4: end or seems pretty straightforward. But having said that, we 66 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 4: also don't need AstraZeneca until March twenty two the Lands 67 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 4: and Territory earlier it will get used through the COMWORLF 68 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 4: Phase one A, which is that age care and disability 69 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 4: care and people working in there. 70 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 2: So essentially the order that was being waited on for 71 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: the Northern Territory is actually the federal government's order at 72 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 2: this stage, or it's to be delivered through that federal 73 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 2: government facility, so it's not ours and well it's you. 74 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,119 Speaker 1: Know, we're expecting another one March twenty two. 75 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 4: We want the astra Zenica to get here prior to 76 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 4: March twenty two, so if they send it all up 77 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 4: at once, we're working quite close to the FED, so 78 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 4: we probably take vals out of that patch for our 79 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 4: March twenty two. We just want to make sure Astheneka 80 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 4: gets here prior to March twenty two. If it doesn't, 81 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 4: then we'll have to start working at that Phase one B. 82 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 4: But we've been given no indication that we need to 83 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 4: worry about AstraZeneca. I've been given probably several dates it's 84 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 4: going to arrive, then it hasn't, and so we are 85 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 4: paying close attention to it, and we're at this stage hope, 86 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 4: not hopeful. 87 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 3: We're very confident all land prior to March twenty two. 88 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: Do you know what at this point how many vaccines 89 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: have now been administered? 90 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 3: Oh, it's good question. Was over three thousand? 91 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 4: I thought I can double check the most latest number. 92 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 4: We're using fires obviously for all of Phase one A. 93 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 4: That's why it's available, and we also want to keep 94 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 4: it simple so as you probably appreciate, until you get 95 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 4: the second shot, you're not actually vaccinated. Like the first 96 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 4: shot is not enough. You're going to get the second shot. 97 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 4: The data is going to be really important once we 98 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 4: start getting to that second shot fames, and we're doing 99 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 4: that from today. I think today is the first second shot, 100 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 4: so we're started to roll into the back end of 101 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 4: that three thousand and obviously if using fires and other 102 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 4: using fires or it's recentple to track the first and 103 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 4: second shots. As we get into the other phases and 104 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 4: we get more familiar the vaccine roll out, we'll obviously 105 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 4: be recording all the data around shots and second shots, 106 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 4: and that's when it starts getting really important that people 107 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 4: do get their second shot. We'll be tracking people are 108 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 4: missing their second shot, and hopefully that small numbers, and 109 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 4: we'll be really doing targeted follow ups make sure people 110 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 4: do get that second shot. 111 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: Well, and I guess we're all hoping that the vaccine 112 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: has rolled out sooner rather than later all around the 113 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 2: nation so that people can travel around more freely. Last 114 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: week we revealed exclusively on the show that Darwin is 115 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: now on the list of locations which interstate travelers can 116 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: fly to at half price. Alice Springs and Ularu are 117 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: also on that list, alongside some beautiful destinations. Chief how's 118 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: the government going to be promoting the Northern Territory as 119 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 2: a better destination to visit than some of these other 120 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 2: places around Australia. 121 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 4: Well, first of aok, can I thank you because there 122 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 4: was some confusion on this last week, but whether Daren 123 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 4: was in or out. You've got the Australian GUP Minister 124 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 4: on the show and you confirmed that Darwin was in. 125 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 4: We followed that up and Darwin is definitely in. Alic 126 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 4: Springs and the Center absolutely need it. They've probably been 127 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,799 Speaker 4: hard to hit than most parts of territory with tourism. 128 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 4: They're more vulnerable to impacts on tourism, but the territory 129 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 4: as a whole really needed that those extra tourists coming in. 130 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 4: We're working very closely obviously with tourism providers and others 131 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 4: to market into the rest of Australia Territory has an 132 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 4: excellent reputation. If anything, the desire to visit the territories 133 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 4: increased during Corona. There's been lots of lot tertiches been 134 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 4: never be more discussed on the national stage. Not everyone 135 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 4: can obviously visit Howard Springs, which may be part of the 136 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 4: reason why they won't want to come. 137 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 3: But I am very. 138 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 4: Confident that there's a strong, strong desire out there to 139 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 4: visit the territory. 140 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 2: The tough thing is that flight prices are not cheap 141 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 2: to the Northern Territory. On Friday, we had a listener 142 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 2: contact us to say that there was a sale on 143 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 2: Jetstar I believe it was, but no cheap. 144 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: Flights to the territory. 145 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: Are you going to be having discussion with Quantus and 146 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: Jetstar to try and ensure that they're not going to 147 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: jack up those prices really rendering us as uncompetitive. 148 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 149 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 4: This is probably a regular conversation with Quantus and Jetstar, 150 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 4: though this time around there's more meat to it because 151 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 4: obviously the FEDS have put that whose dollars on the 152 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 4: table to make sure we keep airfares down. Obviously don't 153 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 4: want to get this half priced sale. And I know 154 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 4: the Australian government's got controls in place too. They're looking 155 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 4: at this as well, because everyone in Australia's want to 156 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 4: only see that ripoff come on. They've had certain inquiries 157 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 4: into the space. It's a hot issue across the country. 158 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 2: Really though, like do we have any power to actually 159 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 2: enforce them or force them to be fair here? 160 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 4: The Australian government does contractually, I will thought with the 161 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 4: money they've handed over, and obviously our consumer affairs can 162 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 4: watch these things and pay attention. But I think it's 163 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 4: much more likely the Australian government, with the big stick 164 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 4: of the dollars they've got, are the ones who've got 165 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 4: the most control of this. 166 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 3: We've got a good. 167 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 4: Relationship with the Australian government, Katie. You've got a good 168 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 4: relationship Ausralian. 169 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: Government now, yeah, apparently. 170 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 2: So we keep asking to try and work out exactly 171 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 2: where people can can actually travel from to Darwin as well. 172 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: So do you have a better idea of that list. 173 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 4: To mindstanding is it's all those major ports of entry 174 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 4: into dun or Alice. So apologies if I miss one here, 175 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 4: but you know it's not just that the towns were way, 176 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 4: which which is good, but it's also the Brisbanes of Sydney's, 177 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 4: the Melbourn's, the Adelaide, et cetera. 178 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: All right, so it is all those capital cities. It's 179 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: not just towns. 180 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 4: That's my understanding absolutely, And if you like, I can 181 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 4: just get I can get the full list and get 182 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 4: that back to you so you can you can see 183 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 4: that for your listeners. 184 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be wonderful. Now. 185 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: We are all hoping that these flights are going to 186 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: see an increase in tourist numbers and spending, but I 187 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 2: know that many hold concerns about the impact that crimes 188 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: having on tourism in some locations. One of those is 189 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 2: Alice Springs, which is set to feature on A Current 190 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: Affair tonight. This is not a new issue. We've all 191 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: been banging on about this for months. Are you worried 192 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 2: about these very real issues hitting TV screens tonight? 193 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: Nationally? 194 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 4: Always a concern I share. Crimes aren't accepted, whether it's 195 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 4: reported on or not, whether it's put on by a 196 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 4: Current Affair or yourself, Katie, Crimes absolutely unacceptable, tragically low 197 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 4: just an issue here isn you elsewhere as well? And 198 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 4: I want anyone who visits the territory to have the 199 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 4: best experience possible. I don't want them to be impacted 200 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 4: by crime. And we're doing a lot of work in 201 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 4: that space. I can't guarantee it, but we're doing a 202 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 4: lot of work in that space to make sure not 203 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 4: just visitors but territories themselves well. 204 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: And that's right, But we do seem to still be 205 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 2: struggling quite badly with this. Even on the weekend in 206 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: the paper there was an article in which a French 207 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: backpacker told his pretty harrowing tale about being belted by 208 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: two strangers in the city here in Darwin. These are 209 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 2: issues that we've all been grappling with for the majority 210 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 2: of your term of government. Why do people feel that 211 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 2: they're not improving? 212 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 4: Assaults at the moment are on the way up. If 213 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 4: you look at property crime, that's been trending down, but 214 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 4: assaults are up, and that does worry us. 215 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: It's funny because no one seems to actually believe the figures. 216 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: And I don't know why, but I. 217 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 2: Guess there's this real sense in the community at the 218 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 2: moment that even when those numbers sort of get trodden out, 219 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 2: people seem to switch off. 220 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 1: They just kind of go, do you. 221 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: Know what, I actually don't believe it there, and that's 222 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: a real concern in itself. 223 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 4: I get it, I get it, but police myself, others, 224 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 4: we obviously have to target our resources against the data 225 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 4: we're showing places are hot. And let's be clear, and 226 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 4: this is one reason why the top line data. I 227 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 4: understand the point you're making, Cuddie, and the top line data, 228 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 4: I don't have an argument in the way that there 229 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 4: is crime. So there's not dispute that there's absolutely crime. 230 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 4: And some areas become hotter than others, and you go 231 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 4: watch where the crime spikes are occurring and making sure 232 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 4: you're just in respond your resources to respond, and police 233 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 4: are very responsive in that space as we've got other 234 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 4: measures too as well to make sure we're adjusting to 235 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 4: where the hot spots are. The assaults though we get 236 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 4: back into that very worried about them going up, as 237 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 4: is the Commission, and he's talked about this a few times. 238 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 4: We've had a lot more money coming into the territory 239 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 4: over the last year as a response to the Australian 240 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 4: government's very necessary decisions. So for example, it's around ten 241 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 4: million a week was coming in the territory over and 242 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 4: above normal in the job seeker. Now, when more comes in, 243 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 4: you see more. So we've seen more pitches of fresh 244 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 4: fruit and stuff like that, but I've also seen a 245 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 4: significant increase in drinking and we as we know, a 246 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 4: significant increase in unregulated drinking does lead to violence. 247 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 2: So are you worried about the impact that this is 248 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: going to have on our tourism sector? I mean, even 249 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 2: so far that ACA promo, so the current Afair promo 250 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 2: has been viewed, well, last night it had been viewed 251 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 2: sixty five thousand times, you know, and it's not as 252 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: if it's a media beat up unfortunately, you know, they're real, 253 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: it's real vision, it's real images that people are really 254 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 2: worried about. Are you concerned that this is going to 255 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 2: have an impact on our tourism sector at a time 256 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 2: when we really need to try and get people here? 257 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 4: Always obviously it's never good when the territory of the 258 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 4: national stage for those reasons. We went through that five 259 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 4: years ago with the Royal Commission. So unfortunately the territory 260 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 4: has been here before when you get these issues discussed nationally, 261 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 4: but we've also spent twelve months being discussed nationally as 262 00:10:58,360 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 4: being the best when it comes to a whole range 263 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 4: of things with coronavirus. So I don't want to say 264 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 4: good of the bad because this is awful. 265 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 3: We don't want it. We will keep working to make 266 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 3: sure we stop it. 267 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: I guess the big to be really blunt about it though. 268 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 2: You know, here in the Northern Territory, like you said, 269 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 2: we have managed COVID really well. We haven't had you know, 270 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 2: any deaths as a result of COVID, but we have 271 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 2: had an alleged death in Alice Springs as a result 272 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: of allegedly a stolen vehicle well crashing with an innocent man. 273 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 2: So I guess again put it really bluntly. We are 274 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 2: talking about a situation here that's reached boiling point, particularly 275 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 2: in Alice Springs. 276 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, that was a just an awful, tragic, what's 277 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 4: the right words, alleged crime. I think I've got be 278 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 4: careful of the court process it's going through. That that 279 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 4: happened in our springs just an absolute, absolute tragedy for 280 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 4: that person who was in the wrong spot at the 281 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 4: wrong time, and those people shouldn't have been doing what 282 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 4: they did. We are doing a live work in the 283 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 4: space as you know, Katie, not just around reasons, which 284 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 4: is a big thing we've been focusing on. So there's 285 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 4: twenty nine police heading to Alice Springs this month. 286 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 3: I'll get you the date for that. 287 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: Twenty nine police yeap. 288 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 4: Out of the current recruit squad, there's eleven sorry, eleven 289 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 4: police auxiliaries being trained in our Springs right now. 290 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 3: They graduate on the second of April. 291 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 4: Know that. And there's eleven adsient LIAISONOVS has been trained 292 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 4: as well for Alice, for in Alice, seven for suburbs sorry, 293 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 4: communities around Alice Springs. 294 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 3: So that's the more resourcing side. But I think we 295 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 3: also sorry, is that as a. 296 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 2: Result of the issues that we've got right now, will 297 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 2: they be permanently based there or are they there to 298 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 2: coincide with Pajama and some of those other major events 299 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: getting underwe. 300 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 4: That's permanently based. So as we've commented already this interview, Katie, 301 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 4: it's not new that there's issues. 302 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 3: In our Springs. 303 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 4: So we're constantly talking about what can we do more 304 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 4: for Alice, But there are also policy issues that impact 305 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 4: the whole territory, not just Alice Springs. 306 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 3: So where's a couple things. 307 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 4: We promise we do going into this term that we're 308 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 4: working at the moment, we've got coming up in the 309 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 4: March sitting, so with us next week passage around Ringley, 310 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 4: the legislation and Joint Commission, which is giving least greater 311 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 4: powers to make sure we can prosecute people. So we've 312 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 4: had a couple instances, this isn't the majority at all, 313 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 4: but we're a couple instances where older kids or you know, 314 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 4: young adults essentially are encouraging young kids to meet crime 315 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 4: that covers off that Joint Commission is about making sure 316 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 4: that everyone who's party to a crime is liable for prosecution. 317 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 4: So that's a very simplistic way of describing it. So 318 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 4: we're making sure we're catching everybody, which I think is 319 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 4: really important. And we're also working on strengthening and monitoring 320 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 4: bail compliance with something. 321 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 2: With Yeah, you and I have spoken about that. Have 322 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 2: we got more of those monitoring bracelets? So where's that 323 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 2: breakdown being? 324 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 3: So mind standing is come over? Were this chat on 325 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 3: are off? Here? Katie? But you're saying you heard the 326 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 3: only one of being news. I followed up. The figure 327 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 3: I got was three hundred and. 328 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: Forty one hundred and forty have actually been used. 329 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I've got that from a Minister for Police. 330 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 4: So I'm not sure where that confusion has come from. 331 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: Well, I thought it came from the estimates. 332 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 4: Okay, so I can look at that in case there's 333 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 4: there's a different way of breaking up the stats. But 334 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 4: I did ask the question looked at there was obviously 335 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 4: piked my absolutely, yeah, absolutely poietly. But we are looking 336 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 4: at a lot of things we can do in that space, 337 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 4: as well as other reviews around property crime offenses and 338 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 4: vehicle offenses. I think miss police can talk about this 339 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 4: great detail vehicle offenses one that are worrying us that 340 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 4: I think we just need to update where those are 341 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 4: at because we're seeing a lot more vehicle offenses. 342 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 2: Well let's talk about then those police resources, because there's 343 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: no doubt that it's been a difficult time for police 344 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: managing resourcing during COVID. Last week we received a number 345 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: of messages about the situation at Howard Springs with oz Matt, 346 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 2: with that team transitioning out, the Police Commissioner was doing 347 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 2: his best in the Sunday Territory and yesterday in an 348 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 2: opinion piece to quell those concerns, he said that nothing 349 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 2: would change at that facility when it comes to managing COVID. 350 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: But some have been questioning if this time or if 351 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 2: it is time that police sort of focus more of 352 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 2: their time or their times better spent on fighting the 353 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 2: issues that we've got with crime, rather than being based 354 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 2: on managing some of those COVID concerns. 355 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 4: So where obviously have been transitioning police resources back out 356 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 4: into ordinary duties and you've seen us shut down basically, 357 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 4: I think that, yeah, there's definitely all the land border 358 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 4: control points have seen police come back into regular service. 359 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 4: At Howard Springs itself, there's been no change in what 360 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 4: police are doing out there. We do want to avoid 361 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 4: the situation we've seen elsewhere though, where there's been a 362 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 4: range of su private security guards and oh. 363 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you still need some police. 364 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 4: I think I don't think your listeners are going there. 365 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 4: So I think we need to have that comfort at 366 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 4: the airports. As you've seen with how we handled Brisbane 367 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 4: and Sydney, we are now transitioning probably to a phase 368 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 4: as we get more people vaccinated, more on standing of 369 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 4: the virus, better control measures in other places. So yeah, Brisbane, Sydney, 370 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 4: the Melbourne's Perth et cetera. Are when something goes wrong 371 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 4: down there. They're getting better at what they do locally, 372 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 4: sore with comfort now be able to potentially move away 373 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 4: from hotspot declaration. So I think you'll see airports go 374 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 4: in a similar way to the land controls. 375 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 3: I won't give a date on that, but they'll go 376 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 3: that way. 377 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 4: We've also seen the darn Watchhouse unstilled reopened last last 378 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 4: month this month has reopened, so we are going back 379 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 4: to those ordinary police. 380 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I reckon a lot of people will be 381 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: pleased to hear that. I know that. 382 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: We received an email from one of our listeners, Jane, 383 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 2: last week. She was pretty concerned. She reckons it. When 384 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 2: she arrived at the airport, there was obviously that COVID screening, 385 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 2: but she said that they found themselves walking between four 386 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 2: uniformed NT police and she, you know, she questioned whether 387 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 2: that was the best use of resources. 388 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 4: Police Commissioner makes very good decisions in this space. I'm 389 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 4: not going to tread on his toes. I understand why 390 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 4: we're doing it. That makes sense. He has my support 391 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 4: about doing it, and the numbers that we do we 392 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 4: have had as we appreciate need at times to declare 393 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 4: a hotspot while planes are in the air. That very 394 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 4: takes you know, you can't basically marshal resources when that occurs, 395 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 4: and that can lead to quite emotional circumstances where you 396 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 4: do need police involved. 397 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 3: So we've got to be very careful how. 398 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 4: We manage this and manage the risk of territorians because 399 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 4: as much as we've had no communit transmission, I don't 400 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 4: want to get complacent. If we get coronavirus in the 401 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 4: community the territory, you'll still be devastating. It'll be devastating. 402 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 403 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 2: I think we've just got to juggle all of those things. 404 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 2: But at the moment, I do reckon that we've got 405 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 2: more people concerned about the issues we've got with crime 406 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 2: than worried about COVID, and that does come down to 407 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 2: good management. Obviously we've done a phenomenal job in the 408 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 2: territory when it comes to COVID, But this issue of crime, 409 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I think you'd have to say coppying it 410 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,719 Speaker 2: from every angle at the moment. The Lord Mayor convat 411 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 2: Scalis rode an opinion piece on the weekend, saying with 412 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: police resources already stretched to the limit. Why have police 413 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 2: been given extra workload to now also run the Howard 414 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 2: Springs quarantine facility. 415 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 4: His questioned, I can clarify that. I think you know 416 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 4: the answer this already, Katie. We haven't given police extra 417 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 4: workload howd Springs. I think there's been misunderstanding by the 418 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 4: police commisioner's role. The police commissioner during an emergency is 419 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 4: also the territory controller. He chairs the Territory Emerging Management Committee, 420 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 4: which is essentially all the CEOs of public service and 421 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 4: other things necessary and everything that happens within an emergency 422 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 4: gets report up to the EOC that's Emergency Operations Center 423 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 4: and then into the temp see chair by the Church 424 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 4: of Controller that makes sure during an emergency everything's tracked, 425 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 4: held to account and reportable. That hasn't changed. It's been 426 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 4: going for the entire twelve months. So the Church controller, 427 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 4: please commissioner, his role during COVID has not changed at 428 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 4: all in terms of House Springs. 429 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 3: Any of these roles have not changed. 430 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 2: Have we sought assistance again from the ADF for additional 431 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 2: assistance from the ADF? My understanding from them last week 432 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 2: is that yes we have. But I'm just wondering if 433 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 2: you've got any idea how many staff from the. 434 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: Defense Force we're requesting at this point out there. 435 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 4: I can't give you a numerical answer. All I'll say 436 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 4: is the ADF have been Giberson all the way through 437 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 4: this and always been very, very supportive, with an excellent 438 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 4: relationship with them, and I'm very grateful for everything you've done. 439 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 3: I can't give you an exact number on that one. 440 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: Game, Okay, Chief Minister. 441 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 2: I do want to ask you just quickly about something 442 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 2: pretty disturbing that's been reported over the weekend. We've had 443 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 2: a couple of listeners get in contact with us about this, 444 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 2: and it's been reported in the NT Independent that a 445 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: three year old boy was sexually assaulted while playing in 446 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,959 Speaker 2: his front yard in Palmerston by an itinerant on Thursday, 447 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 2: in what's being described as every parent's worst nightmare. At 448 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 2: this stage, there's been no comment from the Northern Territory Police. 449 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,239 Speaker 2: We have sent them a request this morning wondering if 450 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 2: we're able to get some further detail and if somebody 451 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 2: has been arrested. Have you been told about this situation 452 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 2: at this point in time. 453 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 4: No, I haven't received no form of briefing on that 454 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 4: from what you said, it's a sickening incident. But as 455 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 4: we don't know if it's been confirmed or not, I 456 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 4: hope to God it's found to be not true because 457 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 4: it's just a horrific. 458 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 2: Look it sounds absolutely horrific, and hopefully we are able 459 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 2: to get some clarity from the Northern Territory Police and 460 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 2: hopefully we're able to find out if indeed this person 461 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 2: has been arrested or not. As it's been described, it 462 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 2: is every parent's worst nightmare. Chief Minister will leave it 463 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 2: there for this morning. We always appreciate your time. Thank 464 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 2: you very much for coming in. You're listening to Mix 465 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,719 Speaker 2: one O four point nine's three sixty that number if 466 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 2: you'd like to call through eight nine four one one 467 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 2: O four nine