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Speaker 1: Well, we are on the final stretch of the marathon.

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Speaker 1: obviously going yeah, great idea, we need to bring down

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Speaker 1: this seems like a croc now evil. All are said

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Speaker 1: on the show yesterday that they are pushing for an

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Speaker 1: the studio with me is the Opposition leader Leo Finocchiaro.

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Speaker 1: Good morning to your leader.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Kadi, into your listeners.

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Speaker 1: Now it does seem as though you know these plans

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Speaker 3: Well, I think territorians aren't surprised by Labour's trickery.

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Speaker 2: We're seeing some really.

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Speaker 3: Desperate behavior a week out from an election and an

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Speaker 3: It's too hard to do business in the territory and

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Speaker 3: different outcome. It's why we're backing in small business with

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Speaker 2: Bless you.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, about that more locals and really make the territory

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Speaker 2: Our payroll tax regime will be the best in the country.

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Speaker 3: This is Labor and their tricks because they have nothing

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Speaker 1: How much is it going to cost? You know, that's

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Speaker 1: So how much is the payroll tax promise going to cost?

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Speaker 3: It's about fourteen million dollars a year and all of

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Speaker 1: And will you offer free land to big business like

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Speaker 1: Leah. We know the COLP last week unveiled Declan's Law.

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Speaker 3: So this is about making sure people who are serious

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Speaker 2: Currently they're on the front foot.

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Speaker 3: And what that means is it gives the judges more

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Speaker 1: Yeah, some are saying it's going to mean more people

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Speaker 3: So for judge determines that someone is likely to offend

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Speaker 1: All right, A few quick ones, Leah, Now I know

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Speaker 3: Look, Katie, we've got a couple of days to go,

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Speaker 4: So I would you make an alliance is someone like

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Speaker 3: So don't waste the chance to change the government and

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Speaker 3: Yes, I do support the police Commissioner. I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: A trial, Katie.

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Speaker 1: Can you please ask Leah what her stance is on

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Speaker 1: the cotton industry in the Northern Territory, particularly noting the

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Speaker 1: full Corners report from last night.

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Speaker 3: Look, we've got a really highly regulated environmental system here

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Speaker 3: in the Northern Territory. Agriculture is a massive part of

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Speaker 3: our economy and it should be a bigger part. Agriculture

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Speaker 3: presents real opportunities for jobs on country out right across

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Speaker 3: the territory, and so we're very, very supportive of expanding

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Speaker 3: those economic opportunities for all Territorians while making sure that

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Speaker 3: we safeguard our environment and preserve it for future generation.

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Speaker 1: All Right, this question from Glenn I asked it of

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Speaker 1: the Chief Minister yesterday as well. It says, Hi, Katie,

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Speaker 1: can you please ask the Chief Minister and the Leader

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Speaker 1: of the Opposition what their party's intentions would be with

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Speaker 1: the voice at a state or territory level if they

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Speaker 1: win the election. I think it's important, an important issue.

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Speaker 1: With the results of the referendum and Victoria and South

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Speaker 1: Australia's moved to put in place already and the apparent

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Speaker 1: not only confidence but encouragement of our Prime Minister that

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Speaker 1: other states and territories will follow, I feel this question

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Speaker 1: needs to be a definitive yes or no, as it

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Speaker 1: could have a big impact on how Territorians choose to vote,

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Speaker 1: says Glenn.

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Speaker 3: No, the answer is no. We're not pursuing voice at

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Speaker 3: a territory level or at any level. What we're really

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Speaker 3: focused on is changing community government councils. Now, you know,

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Speaker 3: labor are disempowered Aboriginal people right across the territory by

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Speaker 3: amalgamating local councils into massive shires run out of the

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Speaker 3: major urban centers, and when you go out Bush, what

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Speaker 3: people want is their community government council's back, and that's

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Speaker 3: our commitment to work with communities to drive a new

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Speaker 3: model going forward, a sustainable model where governance is at

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Speaker 3: the core and we can put the power back in

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Speaker 3: the hands of Aboriginal people in their communities to make

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Speaker 3: decisions around what's important to their community.

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Speaker 1: Leah a quick one from Darby from the do Can

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Speaker 1: you ask Leah her thoughts on voluntary assisted dying legislation. Yep.

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Speaker 3: We've always said this will be a conscience vote in

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Speaker 3: the Parliament. It's something that each member of Parliament really

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Speaker 3: should be out engaging with their electorates on. It's a

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Speaker 3: very big topic it's a big issue and you're either

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Speaker 3: you know, there's a lot of people who take one

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Speaker 3: side or the other, but it would be a conscience

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Speaker 1: All right, Leah Finocchiaro, that's it, that last interview before

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Speaker 1: before hang on, there's apparently Crystal's telling me there might

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Speaker 1: be other questions here. I might just quickly see what

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Speaker 1: they are before I let you go, because it is

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Speaker 1: the last opportunity before our listeners to get a couple

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Speaker 4: Although those numbers are.

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Speaker 1: Now up over forty five thousand people have all ready voted.

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Speaker 4: They are massive numbers.

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Speaker 1: I'm anticipating we could be up around the seventy percent

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Speaker 1: really yeah.

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Speaker 3: By the weekend, and there's plenty of opportunities to vote.

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Speaker 3: Prepolls open eight till five in locations and then on

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Speaker 3: election day on Saturday. But make sure you check if

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Speaker 3: you vote Saturday. The NTC has changed the schools and

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Speaker 3: so we don't want you rocking up to a school

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Speaker 3: you've voted at for thirty years only to find it's closed.

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Speaker 1: A really quick one here from Jill Hi Katie, can

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Speaker 1: you ask leader if she's going to put the electricity

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Speaker 1: by back back up.

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Speaker 3: Oh you mean the solar. Yes, great question, Jill. So

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Speaker 3: we've been really clear that we want to reward territories

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Speaker 3: who've invested in rooftop solar, and we know Eva Lola

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Speaker 3: actually was the one to cut it out from underneath people.

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Speaker 3: So we will double the feed in tariff in peak

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Speaker 3: times and give territorians twelve thousand dollars to buy a

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Speaker 3: battery up during the day, using that your own electric

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Speaker 3: you know, your own generated power in the evenings, and

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Speaker 3: that will see for a lot of people their power

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Speaker 3: people for investing in our environment and investing in rooftop solar.

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Speaker 4: Lea.

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Speaker 1: Just on the voice question, somebody's messaged and said I

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Speaker 1: noticedly it gave a good, strong no to the voice

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Speaker 1: to Parliament. However, she didn't answer about treaty. Is treaty

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Speaker 1: something that you're going to be working towards.

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Speaker 3: No, no voice or treaty. We're very focused on local

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Speaker 3: government reform. That's the feedback we're getting from the bush.

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Speaker 3: We believe that's the best way to give genuine control

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Speaker 3: and power to Aboriginal communities to deliver better outcome for

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Speaker 3: their people around education, roads, infrastructure, you know, investment into

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Speaker 3: sporting facilities. All of these things are really important and

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Speaker 3: so it's our commitment to work with those communities and

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Speaker 3: deliver a better form of government for them.

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Speaker 1: Well, Lea fanochi Airo, that's the last one before the

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Speaker 1: Northern Territory election. Say the same to you as what

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Speaker 1: I said to Ev yesterday. Good luck, good luck for

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Speaker 1: the remainder of the weekend and we'll see where it

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Speaker 1: all lands. And we may be talking on Monday or

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Speaker 1: who knows what's going to go on.

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Speaker 3: As take care Katie, Thank you everyone, and please go

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Speaker 3: out and vote.

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Speaker 2: Vote to change the territory.

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Speaker 3: We can be better than what we are now and

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Speaker 3: only a vote for CLP can change the.

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Speaker 1: Government written and authorized there.

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Speaker 4: Goodness me ly, thanks so much, much appreciated.