1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:01,200 Speaker 1: This is Outspoken. 2 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 2: The podcast is not afraid to say exactly what you're thinking. 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 2: Our names are. 4 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Amy Kate and Sophie Torba. 5 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 2: We're identical triplets, but we often don't have identical opinions, 6 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken covers all things 7 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 2: reality TV, influencers, entertainment, and issues facing women. 8 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 3: That is so fatch. 9 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: Thank you, Welcome back to Outspoken, and Happy Valentine's Day 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: to everyone. 11 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 4: Now I've got a question for you, guys. Are girls 12 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 4: getting love hearts. 13 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 2: Painted on their nails to remind their partner that it's 14 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: Valentine's Day? 15 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: Because I have seen these popping up everywhere. 16 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 4: Molly May has got them, Martha Califertitas, Britney Saunders. 17 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: The list goes on, what is the go with this? 18 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 2: See I don't actually think it's to remind your partners 19 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 2: Valentine's Day. I think it's something that women are doing 20 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 2: to impress other women because it is so on trend 21 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: at the moment. I have literally seen this trend everywhere, 22 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: not only online, but I've been served i think this week, 23 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: by two set people in the real world, in the 24 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 2: real world who had this trend, and I actually commented 25 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 2: to one of the girls. I said, that is so cute, 26 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 2: and she explained that she doesn't actually have a partner, 27 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 2: she just got it done for Gallantine's Day because she's 28 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: going out with their friends. I actually feel like Gallantine's 29 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 2: Day is becoming bigger than Valentine's Day for people and 30 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: their partners. And I also agree with you, Sophie, because 31 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: men taking no notice of women's fingernails. 32 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: See I pointed them out. 33 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 2: We were at a meeting with our old boss and 34 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: I said, did you see that girl's nails? And he's like, 35 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: what are you talking about? There's your answer. Well, for 36 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: those who haven't seen it. So people are getting micro 37 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 2: hearts painted on their nails. They're getting heart tips and 38 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: floating hearts, and it's really going international. 39 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 4: Because an English TikToker called Luxi's Life, she shared her 40 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,199 Speaker 4: experience at replicating the trend, and apparently she never gets 41 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 4: her nails done normally, but loves Valentine's Day so much 42 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 4: that she wanted to get micro hearts on her nails. 43 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 4: So she took in a Pinterest photos in spo and 44 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 4: the end result. 45 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: Was far from it. 46 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 4: It literally looked like her nails were painted at a 47 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 4: primary school sleepover. The nail polish was all gloopy and thick, 48 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 4: and the love hearts were so shitly painted. It reminded 49 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 4: me of that Instagram verse reality meme floating around. 50 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 2: Do you guys remember that nail place in Melbourne that 51 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 2: was every Last? Yes? What has happened to that? 52 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 4: I actually looked them up on Instagram a while ago 53 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 4: and they now sell nail polished kits, so they're not 54 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 4: so much a salmon, but they teach you how to 55 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 4: do the designs on the nail. 56 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 2: Because you could go in with any object you wanted 57 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: and they were painter on your nails. 58 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: It was crazy. 59 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 4: Well, back to the Valentine's Day trend, and Chloe Kardashian 60 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 4: has of course gotten onto the trend. However, her nail 61 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 4: selfie resulted in her getting trolled, so she shared a 62 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 4: photo of her long pink French tips with tiny little 63 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 4: red hearts on them. However, people kept commenting on how 64 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 4: creepy her nails looked, and if you do look at 65 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 4: the photo, it seems like they've elongated her I don't 66 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 4: even know what you call it, just the nail before 67 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 4: it goes to the white tip. They've elongated that so 68 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 4: people were saying that her fingernails look like the monster 69 00:02:58,120 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 4: that lives under the bed. 70 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 2: To check it out, I don't know how people function 71 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: in normal society with nails that long, because even just 72 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 2: writing on your computer or writing on your phone must 73 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 2: be really difficult. When I used to get the tips 74 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: on my nails, I always used to feel bad because 75 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 2: I'd want them so my nails would look evenly shaped 76 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: and even length. However, I always was too embarrassed at 77 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 2: the nail salon to be like, no, can you cut 78 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 2: it a bit shorter, So I'd end up with these 79 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 2: really long fingernails, and I've got contact lenses and i 80 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 2: could never get them out of my eyes, and I'm like, 81 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 2: why did I get this done? 82 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: We touched on the. 83 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: Fact that Britney Saunders has jumped on this trend as well, 84 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: but she elevated the trend. 85 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: She went as far as getting her. 86 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 2: Boyfriend's initials on her fingernails too, and it was pretty 87 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: funny because it caused a little bit of an uproar 88 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: because Influenza Updates shared a photo of the really cute 89 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: manicure and wrote, Britney Saunders got aj on her nails 90 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: for Valentine's Day. 91 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: So cute. 92 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: Then in bracket she wrote her boyfriend's first and middle 93 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: names are Agatha Julian, but he goes by AJ. 94 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 5: Now. 95 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: This ignited huge debate over what Britney's boyfriend and is 96 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: actually called because, for those who don't know, Brittany calls 97 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 2: her boyfriend AJ because he likes to remain private online 98 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 2: and she's never actually revealed what his name really is, 99 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 2: so over the years, many followers have been trying to 100 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 2: guess what AJ stands for, and a little while ago, 101 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 2: one follower guest Agatha Julian and because the name was 102 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 2: so funny, britt ran with it and she often jokes 103 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: that that's his name now. Influencer Updates probably like many 104 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 2: of us, didn't actually realize this was a joke and 105 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: legitimately thought that Agatha Julian was his name. It makes 106 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 2: sense because if you were called that name, you would 107 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: want to go by the initials AJ, wouldn't he. Yeah, 108 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: it was pretty funny because Brittany revealed in our podcast 109 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: group that not even her partner's parents use his real name, 110 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: and she said that no one uses it, so she 111 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 2: thinks she'll be able to keep it a secret for 112 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 2: even longer, and she said that even when she sees 113 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: his name written on documents, she can't believe that that's 114 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 2: actually his name. What do you guys think his name is? 115 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: If you just had to take a guess. 116 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 4: Well, it could be a really traditional name. But it 117 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 4: might just be that she's so used to calling him 118 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 4: Aj all the time that it sounds really strange. I 119 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 4: mean it could be Andrew. Oh, that's going to be 120 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 4: my guest, Andrew James. 121 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 2: I do wonder if they get married, whether that's when 122 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 2: we'll find out what his name is, because surely there'll 123 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: be some sort of wedding video where they have to say, 124 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 2: do you take this man? 125 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: This Aj? 126 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: I feel like it's a bit like Big from Sex 127 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: in the City. You know, we found out his name 128 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 2: was John, but everyone just calls him Big still. 129 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 3: I always talk about your hands, how they're so soft 130 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 3: and milky white. 131 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 4: No, you never shed milky white, said Milkie White. Chloe's 132 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 4: epp has revealed that she and baby daddy Mitchell Orville, 133 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 4: have sold their Gold Coast mansion, three weeks before the 134 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 4: home was set to go under the hammer, Amy, can 135 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 4: you tell us more? Yeah, so the five bedroom home 136 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 4: was supposed to go to auction on March fifth. However, 137 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 4: it's sold late last week to a mystery buyer. Now 138 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 4: this wasn't really surprising news after all the media attention 139 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 4: and hype created around the house, and as we touched 140 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 4: on last week, despite calls for privacy, Chloe and Mitch 141 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 4: used the power of the mainstream media to sell their home. 142 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 4: So they appeared on nine News and they also appeared 143 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 4: in articles on real estate. 144 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: Dot com, dot au and Domain. And we did debate 145 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 2: last week whether the nine News story would help, and 146 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 2: it obviously has. 147 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: So, Sophie, you said. 148 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 2: It wouldn't do anything, Well, Jerie, we don't know that. 149 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: It obviously has helped. 150 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: How do we know that a viewer from Channel nine 151 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 2: has purchased the house? I'm pretty sure it had a 152 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: lot to do with it. 153 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: Was it the guy? 154 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 4: Was it the guy that buys all the houses on 155 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 4: the block and never lives on them because he seems 156 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 4: to have cash just to blow on anything. Well, they've 157 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 4: been referred to as a mystery buier, so we know 158 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 4: nothing about the buyer yet. Now just about Crownd Chloe 159 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 4: and Mitch purchased the house for one point eight five 160 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 4: million in twenty twenty one, but it's unclear how much 161 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 4: they ended up selling the house for, so presumably the 162 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 4: offer was a high one as it led to the 163 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 4: pair calling off the auction. So Chloe shared a photo 164 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 4: of agent Mitch Lambert putting up the sold sticker as she, Mitch, 165 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 4: and their son Artie looked on smiling. And I did 166 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 4: notice that Chloe used very interesting language in the caption. 167 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 4: She wrote, we sold our first home. 168 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 2: Now. I don't know whether I'm reading too much into it, 169 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,679 Speaker 2: but to me, it's sort of implied that they flipped 170 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 2: the house for profit and perhaps they're about to flip 171 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: more houses. 172 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: See, that's not how I read it at all. 173 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 4: I felt like when they said first home, I felt 174 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 4: like that meant their first family home, like it was 175 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 4: a momentous occasion. I didn't feel like it meant oh 176 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 4: Onto number two is how you actually read it. 177 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 2: I honestly read it the same as well, because I 178 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: feel like that's the whole vibe their agent was giving 179 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 2: out on nine News, as if you know, they're being 180 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 2: very clever about this. They flipped this house, and it 181 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 2: was a completely different narrative to when they first got 182 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 2: the home. They were implying that this would be their 183 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: family home for a number of years. I just think 184 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: it's interesting because I feel like Mitch and Chloe are 185 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 2: really trying to push this narrative that it has nothing 186 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 2: to do with them as a couple, is to do with. 187 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: Make it funny. 188 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 2: I definitely think they're trying to push this narrative that 189 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 2: they are selling it for a profit and it's all 190 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 2: about flipping it. However, I think you wouldn't use the 191 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 2: term first home. I think you'd say first house because 192 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: home has a nostalgic connotation to it. Do we think 193 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 2: that possibly, now that Mitch isn't working on social media, 194 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: perhaps he's going to get into house flipping, and you know, 195 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 2: he is quite an entrepreneurial person. Yeah, maybe this is 196 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 2: the exciting project that they're going to announce to us. Well. 197 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: He did tell real estate dot com dot Au in 198 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: a new interview that he and Chloe had decided to 199 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 2: take advantage of the market and see what happened, and 200 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 2: he also confirmed that he and Chloe were looking for 201 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 2: a new house together on the Gold Coast, and his 202 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 2: real estate agent was quoted as saying they are planning 203 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 2: to stay local on the Gold Coast. They've got some 204 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 2: really exciting projects coming up as a family, and so 205 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 2: I thought, either this is something related to ZEP or 206 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 2: is the next project another house. Well, it sounds like 207 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 2: the next project includes the whole family. So I do 208 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: wonder if that's just the family of three or whether 209 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 2: it's the extended family. 210 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 4: Oh yes, but don't think that's always what people say 211 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 4: in an article, that Oh they're onto bigger and better things. 212 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 4: They're doing things like influencers always have quote exciting projects 213 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 4: in the works. I don't know, I feel like we're 214 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 4: reading a little bit too much into it. 215 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 2: I know what you mean, But I feel like, because 216 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 2: they have copped so much heat over the last couple 217 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 2: of months, it wouldn't surprise me that they actually had 218 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 2: a project that was outside of social media, because I 219 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: feel like people with money often then go into property 220 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 2: and flipping houses, and I feel they could be right 221 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 2: up there, Alley. 222 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 4: Does anyone think they might be building that commune? Because 223 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 4: Chloe kept talking and putting out hints that she wanted 224 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 4: to build a community of like minded people. 225 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: Could this be it? Could this be what they're moving. 226 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 2: On to do? 227 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 4: Because I saw angry dad. He sold the family home 228 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 4: in Melbourne and he said it was quite emotional and 229 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 4: he's going to be living on the Gold Coast full time. 230 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 4: Hannah Orville has also moved over to the Gold Coast. 231 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 4: Maybe they're building a big compound for all of their houses. 232 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 2: It wouldn't surprise me. I honestly think that could be 233 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: what they are doing. 234 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 5: Now. 235 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: Back to Chloe, and it seems like she has put 236 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 2: the sale of the house down to God. On Friday, 237 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 2: she shared an inspirational quote following the sale of the house. 238 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: The quote read, someone told me whenever your life is 239 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 2: feeling stagnant or as if nothing is happening, that means 240 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 2: you're being given the time and space to heal and 241 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 2: release baggage. She wrote alongside this quote, this couldn't be 242 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 2: more true. The last couple of months, I've felt this. 243 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 2: What I see looking back was God allowing me time 244 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 2: and space to rest and release, to make space, make 245 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 2: room for new Because the last two weeks have been 246 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 2: busy and blessed. Everything happened at once. It's been crazy 247 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 2: and wonderful all at the same time. Thank you God. 248 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: See Sophie, it wasn't Channel nine, it was God. That 249 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 2: sold their house. I thought it was someone helping them 250 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 2: out and move. 251 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 3: On to the fucking face. 252 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 5: Now, shit, you've been doing your ugly fucking bruise looking 253 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 5: at it's a fucking deodly squat page. 254 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 4: Michael Finch has revealed during an Instagram Q and a 255 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 4: that he and Shining groom and aren't as close as 256 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 4: they used to be, but confirmed they are definitely still friends. 257 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 4: Michael opened up saying the following, every. 258 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 5: Day of my life me and Shanny. Obviously we are 259 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 5: not the closest of friends anymore. I think that's pretty obvious. 260 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 5: We've drifted apart, but I still talk to her often, 261 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 5: like if she was ever in trouble, I would be 262 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 5: there for her in a heartbeat. And I still love 263 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 5: it with all my heart. 264 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: So I thought this was really mature of Michael to 265 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: address the question in such an open and honest way. 266 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: I feel like he must have been getting this questions 267 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: for years, because, of course, he and Shanni were always 268 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 2: joined at the hip, and suddenly when you start not 269 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 2: seeing your favor influences with one another, rumors start to circulate. 270 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 4: It's not really surprising considering they became friends on the 271 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 4: Internet and that they kind of used each other in 272 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 4: a way, not in a negative way, but for their 273 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 4: own career. 274 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:32,599 Speaker 1: Like everyone loves seeing. 275 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 4: Them in videos together, and it's quite common when you 276 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 4: do make friends when you're in your late teens and 277 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 4: your early twenties that you are going to drift apart. Originally, 278 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 4: I just think that everyone wants to see them back 279 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 4: together because I feel like it was the golden time 280 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 4: of YouTube when Shanni and Michael were at their peak. 281 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 4: I used to get so excited seeing their videos that 282 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 4: they had posted together. So Michael, answering the question also 283 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 4: prompted him to share some old videos of Shanni's dogs, 284 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 4: and these photos were taken off in a called Bindi 285 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 4: and Luna, which are of course Shanny's dogs, and the 286 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 4: videos was so cute, and as you said, Kate, it 287 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 4: was very nostalgic. Michael Finch and Bindy. 288 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: Reunited and I had a bit of a suss of 289 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 2: the account, and of course there hasn't been any updates 290 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 2: since October twenty seventeen, but it says the account is 291 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 2: run by Bindi and Luna's uncle and auntie, not their 292 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 2: mummy and daddy, and it was a little bit awkward 293 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 2: because it lists the dogs' names of courses, Bindi and Luna, 294 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 2: and it also mentions their last names being Grimmad and Sour. 295 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 2: And if that doesn't age the page, I don't know 296 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 2: what does. And as you said, Kate, it reminded me 297 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 2: of this simpler time when Shanni and Jonathan were together 298 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 2: and Michael and Shanni were just the coolest people on 299 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 2: the Internet. And I felt like this was a time 300 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 2: when influencers were seen as a lot less problematic, even 301 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 2: though they probably were problematic at the time. 302 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: You still have sex with dad? Oh God, I didn't 303 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 1: want to ask. 304 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 2: Think I am Tammy Hembro has sparked conversation after sharing 305 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: a very cute worksheet her son Wolf, completed at school 306 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 2: last year, Amy, can you tell us more? So? Wolf 307 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 2: was tasked with filling out a one page sheet about 308 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 2: his father, and interestingly, Wolf chose to refer to Tammy's 309 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 2: new fiance Matt as his dad rather than his biological father, 310 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 2: Reese Hawkins. So Reese now resides in the US with 311 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 2: his new wife London and baby Stone, so it would 312 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 2: have come as a bit of a blow to Reese. Now, 313 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 2: Tammy revealed that Wolf had come home with the A 314 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 2: four paper in his school bag, and she actually cried 315 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 2: tears of joy when she saw it. Now, Wolfe's answers 316 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 2: were pretty cute. He said that his favorite thing to 317 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 2: do with Matt is to go to the park, and 318 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: he loves when he buys him Oreo ice cream. 319 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 4: I did laugh when he said what Matt's favorite food 320 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 4: and he said neutral game because of course Matt is 321 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 4: an iron man, So it seems like a little bit 322 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 4: of spon con going on. A lot of teachers in 323 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 4: our group made a really good point about this worksheet. 324 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 4: They said that teachers are now so aware of the 325 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 4: dynamics of families that they may have got wolf to 326 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 4: do two sheets about his stepdad and his dad. And 327 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 4: while I don't have a lot of respect for Reese Hawkins, 328 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 4: I do hope that they did make Will fill out 329 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 4: two worksheets because it is important that he does recognize 330 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 4: that recentness his biological dad. 331 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 2: It's funny because I feel like this little project for 332 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 2: parents could either be really heartwarming or offensive. I do 333 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: remember seeing a mum share online that her child said 334 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 2: that she's always shopping or at the gym. 335 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 4: No no, we said, like I love kicking the football 336 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 4: with Dad and Mum's always shopping and at the gym. 337 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 6: Or you can't just be happy with the way you are, 338 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 6: like there's always more to be a cheat. 339 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 2: At the age of just twenty two, UK influencer Molly 340 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 2: May Haig has announced she has written an autobiography called 341 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: Becoming Molly May My Story. The news has left many 342 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 2: questioning what life lessons can someone in the early twenties 343 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 2: really in part on their audience, So can you tell 344 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 2: us more about this book or? On Friday, Molly May 345 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 2: announced on her Instagram story that she is releasing a book, 346 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 2: and in typical influencer style, she shared a photo of 347 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 2: the book and wrote, Okay, so I did thing and 348 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 2: I felt like that was particularly jugy of Molly May. 349 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 2: I thought that was more a millennial term to use now. 350 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 2: She also said that she has been keeping the book 351 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 2: a huge secret from her followers now for over a year. 352 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 2: Here's what she said about the book. 353 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 6: I don't even know how to start what I'm about 354 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 6: to talk to you about right now. I have been 355 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 6: keeping a huge project, a little secret from you guys 356 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 6: for well over a year now, and today's finally the 357 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 6: day that I can actually speak about what it is. 358 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 6: I can't be about to show this to you guys. 359 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 3: So I've written my. 360 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 6: Very own book. This is Becoming Molly May, my first 361 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 6: ever book, and it's literally this is my baby. We 362 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 6: have honestly put so many months of work into this book. 363 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 6: You have no idea, and it's been such a journey 364 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 6: and such an adventure, like venturing into this whole new 365 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 6: world of writing a book. It's something I've always always 366 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 6: wanted to do. It's been a massive dream of mine. 367 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 6: You guys obviously know that I'm a massive oversharer, but 368 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 6: in this book, I take oversharing to a whole new extreme. 369 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 6: I've spoken about things in this book that I have 370 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 6: only told close family members and friends. You really do 371 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 6: get the full bts, the whole behind the scene up 372 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 6: until this very point. So my whole journey. It's just 373 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 6: so special to me, and I could just burst with 374 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 6: the fact that I'm now able to talk to you 375 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 6: guys about it and it's available to pre order. There's 376 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 6: only a few signed copies available to pre order, but 377 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 6: I'll leave a link on the screen so you guys 378 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 6: can check it out. 379 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 2: Molly continued by saying that she takes over sharing to 380 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 2: a whole new level. In the book, she says that 381 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 2: she speaks about things that she's only told close family 382 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 2: members and also friends, and she described the book as 383 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 2: being a behind the scenes look into her life. She 384 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 2: also described it as being a look at her whole journey. 385 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 2: And I feel like the word journey is a word 386 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 2: that a lot of people use who have been on 387 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 2: reality TV shows or that their life has drastically changed 388 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 2: in a few short years and they become super famous. Now, 389 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: she does have a very reputable publisher behind her. The 390 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 2: book is being published by Penguin Books, so she has 391 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 2: got some very strong backing behind her. Now, it is 392 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 2: quite contentious for somebody to release an autobiography when they're 393 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 2: in their early twenties, because, as we know, autobiographies are 394 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 2: supposed to cover the events of someone's entire life, and 395 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 2: Molly May is only twenty two. 396 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 4: But don't you think that this is just pretty common now? 397 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 4: Like I know, autobiographies used to be about very established people, 398 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 4: but these days it just seems like cash grabs from publishers. 399 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 4: Oh quickly, let's do one on this person that's really popular. Yeah, 400 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 4: I don't know if I was Molly May, I'd feel 401 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 4: a little bit reluctant to do one because it's kind 402 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 4: of saying that you're at your peak now and what 403 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 4: happens from here isn't really relevant to put in a book. 404 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 2: It kind of reminds me of when Madison Wooley brought 405 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 2: out that coffee table book about herself and it was 406 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 2: like twenty three things. 407 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: I know, it's kind of a bit like that vibe. 408 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 2: But the thing is, let's be honest, as you said, Kate, 409 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 2: this book is going to be a sugary book. It's 410 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 2: not really aimed at a serious reader, is it. It's 411 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 2: aimed at teenage girls who just want to buy anything 412 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 2: that has Molly. 413 00:17:58,640 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 1: May's name on it. 414 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. But that's what the annoying thing is because I 415 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 2: feel like they've almost tried to announce it like it 416 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 2: is this serious book where Molly might actually reflect on 417 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 2: some of the tough moments she has faced in the 418 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 2: public eye or as a business woman. But as you said, Amy, 419 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 2: it does appear that it is going to be incredibly 420 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 2: sugary content aimed at teams. 421 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 4: Do you think anyone actually thinks that that's what they're 422 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 4: good at getting from a book? From Molly Nabe. And 423 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 4: also I'm wondering how much more information about her life 424 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 4: that we're interested in can she give because she did 425 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 4: that two hour interview on Infamous Interview now. 426 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: On Diary of a CEO. 427 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 4: I just don't know how much more information she can 428 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 4: give because, as a lot of people were saying in 429 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 4: a Facebook group, she's a very attractive white woman who 430 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 4: has become big from being on Love Island. Like, let's 431 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,719 Speaker 4: be honest, Yes, she has built herself a very successful 432 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 4: career off the back of that fame. And I'm not 433 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 4: saying that Love Island is the only reason she's successful, 434 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 4: because there are so many people that have been on 435 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,959 Speaker 4: it and are not as successful as her, but she 436 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 4: has had a lot of privilege in. 437 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: Being able to be with this platform. 438 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 2: I just don't know how much more information she can 439 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 2: give that is going to be very interesting for people 440 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 2: to read. I mean, she's a bit of an open 441 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 2: book on her YouTube channel. 442 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. 443 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 2: And I did cringe a little bit when I read 444 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 2: the description of the book. It says the real Molly 445 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 2: May in her own words, Molly May is no stranger 446 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 2: to the limelight, having found fame on TV and online. 447 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 2: But behind the polished exterior, there is a young girl 448 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 2: with a unique story. It's the Molly may Not. Everyone 449 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 2: gets to see. Now I'm going to stop there for 450 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 2: that bit. The Molly may Not everyone gets to see. 451 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 2: She has built her brand on as she said over sharing, 452 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 2: as you say, kay, I feel like we already know 453 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 2: this girl, it then says. In Becoming Molly may she 454 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 2: unravels herself completely for the first time to open up 455 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 2: about how she nurtured her creativity from a young age, 456 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 2: took ownership of her body image, battled self doubt, and 457 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 2: built a happy life Along the way. She shares the moments, relationships, 458 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 2: and life lessons that have made her who she is, 459 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 2: from the energetic child who loved Irish dancing and pageants 460 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 2: to the teenager whole down a job at Boots while 461 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 2: building her dreams at fashion school, to the influencer and 462 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 2: business woman who found her match on Love Island and 463 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 2: had to learn how to cope with fame. She know 464 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 2: what cracks me up? Can you imagine if a publisher 465 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 2: came to you at twenty two and had to come 466 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 2: up with a little description of your book. She's worked 467 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 2: at Baker's delight and she's now trying to get it 468 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 2: at UNI. And because because that's literally what it sounds like, 469 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 2: they've had to kind of scrape the barrel to come 470 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 2: up with this synopsis. Well, I do wonder how many 471 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 2: photos are going to be in this book, because it 472 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 2: also says that she's going to be providing practical tips 473 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 2: and advice on growing your social media following, making content, 474 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 2: styling outfits, her favorite beauty products, hair care, and developing 475 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,479 Speaker 2: the perfect makeup look. And I'm sorry, but isn't that 476 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 2: what she does on a YouTube already. Look, this book's 477 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 2: going to set out, let's be honest, Sophie, And I'm 478 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 2: sure you're probably going to buy a copy as well. 479 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 4: All the sign copies, all the sign copies sold out 480 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 4: within an hour or something, So yeah, I think it's 481 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 4: going to be very popular. 482 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 2: Did you guys notice that the title of her book 483 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 2: was the same as First Lady Michelle Obamas, So hers 484 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 2: was becoming Michelle Obama and this one's becoming Molly may Oh. 485 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,479 Speaker 1: That was super awkward. See I didn't like the title. 486 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 2: I found it quite conceited, and I don't know if 487 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 2: girls should be striving to become Molly May, because I 488 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 2: feel like it is a bit of a guide of 489 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 2: how to be like her, and I think that there 490 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 2: are so many other role models that women could be 491 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 2: striving towards, not just becoming an influencer so far. I 492 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 2: were chatting today about this book and we were saying 493 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 2: how it's kind of interesting how Mollie May is being 494 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 2: marketed because she's kind of known by a YouTube as 495 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 2: having a really chilled vibe and she likes to make 496 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,239 Speaker 2: herself really cozy in her house and gives off this 497 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 2: impression that she doesn't do much. But now it seems 498 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 2: that Molly is being marketed as a businesswoman and for 499 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 2: want of a better word. 500 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: This girl boss term. 501 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 2: And I feel like it seems like her manager. You 502 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 2: know when they get these managers around them and they 503 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 2: talk them up so much. I feel like there's a 504 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 2: bit of that going on because she's been touted as 505 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 2: this huge girl boss that everyone needs to look like 506 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 2: I feel like, and I don't think people like that, 507 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 2: and I think that's why there's been this backlash. Like, 508 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 2: it's interesting that the backlash has come off her doing 509 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 2: her first series interview Diary of a CEO, because I 510 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 2: think when people are used to influences being interviewed on 511 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 2: airy fairy topics like what's your favorite ice cream flavor? 512 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 2: And she was put in the hot seat and interviewed 513 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 2: for more than two hours, trying to be inspirational, trying 514 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 2: to provide these intelligent quotes, and it backfired on her. Yeah, 515 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 2: I think her manager has done quite a disservice to 516 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 2: her because I think that she's forgetting that what people 517 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 2: love about Molly May is her relatability, and by trying 518 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 2: to turn her into this huge global girl boss, which 519 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 2: already the term girl boss is very outdated, very cringe 520 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 2: and we are sick of having thrown down our throats 521 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 2: how hard working influences are. That's not what we want 522 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,719 Speaker 2: to hear about. Yeah, don't you think it just pisses 523 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 2: people off? More like if people were just honest about 524 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 2: what they actually did, people wouldn't then tear them down 525 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 2: and be like, well, you're not this, and you're not that. 526 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 2: You do nothing. I feel like as well. Molly has 527 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 2: obviously cottoned on to the fact that her name has 528 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 2: become a brand because in a PLT podcast, she said 529 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 2: that she changed her Instagram handle a couple of months 530 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 2: ago just to just simply say Molly May instead of 531 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 2: Molly May Haig. And when she does speak to people, 532 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 2: they do just refer to as Molly May the brand. 533 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 2: So what do you guys think about the timing of 534 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 2: the announcement of this book, because I feel like her 535 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 2: management obviously had to try and wait out this twenty 536 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 2: four hour comment scandal. But do you still think that 537 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 2: it's too soon? 538 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 4: I think it is, particularly because I have noticed this 539 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 4: shift in attitude towards her since that comment, And I mean, 540 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 4: while it is going to sell out, I don't think 541 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 4: it's really that good for her overall brand, because, to 542 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 4: be honest, I have always liked Molly May, but when 543 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 4: I saw this, I was kind of like, really, and 544 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 4: then her trying to push the point that she had 545 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 4: written the book. I don't mean to sound judgmental, but 546 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,479 Speaker 4: it's quite obvious that a ghost writer has written this book. 547 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 2: Do you know what the first thing I thought of 548 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 2: when I saw that she released this book is the 549 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 2: fact that there was that comedian who released that video 550 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: at the time of the twenty for our comment and 551 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 2: it went viral, and it was him pretending that Molly 552 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 2: May had released a book, but it was really insensitive. 553 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 4: It was about how to get rich, like Moti. I 554 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 4: remember saying that stuff. 555 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, hey guys, Ollie may here. Now look, I'm a 556 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 3: huge fan of Molly, especially at the weekends. But everyone's 557 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 3: getting their benefits in the twist, just because she said, 558 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 3: we don't have the same twenty four hours oh three 559 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 3: pounds fifteen hour in a factory boohoo. Man. Literally, there 560 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 3: were times I didn't even have a yacht to piss in, 561 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 3: but two things kept me going. My mentally privileged background 562 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 3: and this Molly made diitations daily quotes to stop you 563 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 3: being poor. Here are some of my faiths. Even the 564 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 3: word poverty has one P. So what's your excuse. It's 565 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 3: not an overdraft. It's a breeze of ambition. Broke is 566 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 3: the past tense of break, So stop taking them. It's 567 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 3: not a sweatshop, it's a free hot yoga session. You're 568 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 3: not working class. You're working class. Stop thinking about your 569 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 3: next meal and start thinking about your next meal. That's 570 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 3: not your ribcage. It's a stairway to opportunity, commonism, and insult. 571 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 3: It's an encourage. Come on, come on, stop being poor. 572 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 3: You see tasteless simple, just like her cookie. Poverty starts 573 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 3: with pov changeaws grab a copy today. 574 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 2: Well, I think that's all we've got time for today. 575 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us for another episode 576 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 2: of Outspoken. If you did like the show, please go 577 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 2: and rate us five stars and also remember to follow 578 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 2: us on Instagram at Outspoken the Podcast. We're also on 579 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 2: TikTok at Outspoken Underscore the underscore podcasting. Go and join 580 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 2: in the conversations at our Facebook community, which is Outspoken 581 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 2: the Podcast Community.