1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Miriam Muggleys is going to be in town this weekend 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: at the Concert Hall on Sunday for a show called 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:10,079 Speaker 1: Oh Miriam. And it's live, of course, and it's a 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: six pm start, which I love, perfect for us, that 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: gets me home in time for my bedtime. Miriam Mauglees 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: is joining us now, Good morning, Miriam. 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: Oh well, I don't know it was six o'clock. We 8 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: all go to bed early. 9 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: Yes' right. Thank you for thinking of ust to us 10 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: the aged. So Miriam tell us about the live show, Well. 11 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 2: I hope it's live, live and live. It's me and 12 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: somebody asking me questions, and there's questions okay, and I 13 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: just respond without filter, without fear or favor, with a 14 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: lot of F words, a lot of C words, and 15 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 2: a lot of truth open. Everybody will be shocked, disgusted, 16 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: offended and probably entertained. 17 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 3: Well, I wouldn't want it any other way. 18 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 4: So you talk about fish and chips a lot there, 19 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 4: shouldn't it? 20 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 3: Awesome? 21 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: Word gosh? I will remember that. Miriam. 22 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 4: Do you feel like an honorary Aussie these days because 23 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 4: you've been here a lot. 24 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: I don't feel like an honorary Assi. I feel like 25 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: exactly I've got the certificate. I got it in person 26 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: from Julia Gillar, Saint Julia. I loved her. That gives 27 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 2: you a clue to my politics. There is no no 28 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: mystification about that. And no, I'm an Australian and I 29 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: love Australia, and I had a very good time in 30 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: person when I was there. Recently, I've done a bit 31 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: of my series on per and I had a lovely 32 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: time with my rallies. 33 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: Probably last time you were here, in fact, and I'm 34 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: so disappointed that I wasn't there. At the same time, 35 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: You've got some bagels around the corner from my place 36 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: at the one and only Well, I think it's the 37 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: one and only proper bagel place because other places just 38 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: do horseshoe rolls. 39 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 3: A bagel is a bagel. 40 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: But what what are your plans for when you're in 41 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: Perth this time? 42 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: Well, I don't think I'm going to be with you 43 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 2: for very long, not long enough, and then I've got 44 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: to get off somewhere else. Okay, I will at least 45 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 2: get to Western Australia because last time shut us out. 46 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 2: We couldn't get it. Yeah, yeah, I had to wait 47 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: a year to come back yeah, but. 48 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 4: You do have to it. You do have to jet around, 49 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 4: Miriam when you're in demand like that. You don't want 50 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 4: to waste the opportunity to see people. 51 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: That's absolutely right. I'm interested in the money and the 52 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 2: money is coming in and I will know where the 53 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: money is. 54 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: Said John, Now, I'm one with you. Let's not pretend 55 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 1: the possibly Australian series, as you just mentioned Perth Pleasure 56 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: part this time around. 57 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 3: So where did you get to go with that? 58 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell you. Oh okay, if I 59 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 2: don't mention the place that you know, people say I'm 60 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: not bothering to watch that. I get around, let me 61 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: tell you. And I met some very interesting people and 62 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: I learned about things that I didn't know and it 63 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: was fascinating and I really enjoyed myself. 64 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 4: Marry mind no a question from a me and muggle here. 65 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 4: I know there's a very strong connection you have with 66 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 4: the Harry Potter Harry Potter fans and the series and that, 67 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 4: but apparently you've upset a few of them. Is there's 68 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 4: something that you've said recently that stirred the pot amongst 69 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 4: the Potters. 70 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: I know, I do love upsetting people because if you 71 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: upset people, it means you they've actually heard, moved theming 72 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 2: was going on these days that people don't listen. I 73 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 2: certainly meant what I said, which is that Harry Potter 74 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: was a wonderful series of films and books for children. Yes, 75 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: but if you're still living with Harry Potter when you're 76 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: over fifteen, something has gone terribly wrong. And I hold 77 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 2: to that. I don't, I don't. I stand by what 78 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: I say, that is the truth. 79 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 3: I do. 80 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 2: These cameos, you know, these people writing them. You get 81 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 2: paid for saying happy birthday and happy wedding, and family 82 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 2: me and said we're having a Harry Potter wedding. Oh dear, 83 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 2: oh dear. This does not bode well for that night. 84 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 4: So if people play quit retirement times, that's a problem. 85 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm worried about it. So I just want people 86 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: to read grown up books as well. 87 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 3: I totally agree. 88 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: And I think the fact that they're enraged that you 89 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: said they need to grow up shows they need to 90 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: grow up, because. 91 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 5: I mean, I don't mean that they should stop imagining. 92 00:04:55,520 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 5: No imagination should have been stimulated to go do other things, 93 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 5: just stay where they were. 94 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: We should be moving. 95 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: On you're adding to it. You're not replacing one with another. 96 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: You're just adding to the you know the world of what. 97 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 2: You were in. 98 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 4: And you don't want to kill fantasy. I might not 99 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 4: do it every time I bought a Loto ticket, but 100 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 4: you've got to there were some things you can move 101 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 4: on with. 102 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 2: Fantasy and imagination are very important things. But I think 103 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 2: that on the whole I'll settle for imagination. Yeah, let 104 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: fantasy take care of itself. That fantasy can lead you 105 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 2: into very dangerous territory. 106 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: Well, if you've got a good imagination, And now I 107 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: thank you. I think you answered this question with the 108 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: last question. Is there anything you've ever regretted sharing an 109 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: opinion about? 110 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. I'm not sure that I 111 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: should have told my parents that I was gay. Right. 112 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 2: It was more than they could handle, and they were 113 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: very very upset about it. And that's to their in 114 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 2: a sense, they were sailing me rather than the other 115 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: way around. But I always tell people who are gay, 116 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 2: be careful who you tell, because it's not about letting 117 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 2: it all out. It's about sharing something that matters to you. 118 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 2: It matters to me that what my sexuality is was 119 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 2: and I think my parents were just not able to 120 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 2: expand to realize that their daughter was a gay woman, 121 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: that I would still be happy and a nice person 122 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: and have a good life. And it was as if 123 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: I told them that I was a not. 124 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 4: That that's very disappointing. 125 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 3: People of the era. 126 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: But yeah, I guess there is an element of the 127 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: time daddy. 128 00:06:55,880 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 2: Was born in eighteen ninety nine from another and I 129 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 2: got saying that I'm of this world, but certainly gay, 130 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 2: and I'm not going to try to be straight just 131 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: to please anyone else. 132 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 4: So many loves go through so much trouble, so much 133 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 4: grief in their lives, don't they close. 134 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 2: We're adding to it with the nastiness that we show 135 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: each other. You lesbians and transgender people are having a fight, 136 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: and the town and the country, it's all life has 137 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 2: got suddenly, rather than nasty. 138 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: I feel like everyone feels like they're missing out if 139 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: they haven't got something to be outraged about. And I 140 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: feel a little bit like that about the whole you 141 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: know who. However, at the Mardi Gras the other week 142 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: about asking the police not to take part, I thought 143 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: that was disappointing in a way. We've gone through a 144 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: lot to, you know, get that relationship to where it was, 145 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: and then I just. 146 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 2: Yes, I want everybody to see the humanity and the 147 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: other person. And if we can do that, then we 148 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: won't have the wars and the horrors that we have. 149 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: It's because you assign a certain groups not to be 150 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: human and that's not right. 151 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 4: I'm speaking to people being out right. What do you 152 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 4: think about the so called photo scandal with the princess? 153 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 4: It's just bizarre. We're sitting here trying. 154 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 2: To work out, well, I don't know why everybody's getting 155 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: their nickers in a twin. Must be a slow news. 156 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 4: Day, yeahs week? 157 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, well I suppose so. Look, I just saw a 158 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 2: very good photograph of some happy of a happy family 159 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 2: who's been through some rather traumatic times recently. I didn't 160 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 2: notice that it had been adjusted or whatever. You know, 161 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 2: people are getting upset. Do they not realize that every 162 00:08:53,559 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: single fashion photography exactly stuff and altered the matter with people? 163 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 2: I mean, get real, I don't know the prince, the 164 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 2: Prince and Princess. I don't know that family. I know 165 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 2: their father, I know I know the King is Siller 166 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 2: and I adore them. Mind, you doesn't mean I don't 167 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 2: think that we shouldn't be a republic. I think we should. 168 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: But they're nice people. But to get into such a 169 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: state because a woman who's obviously not still not terribly 170 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: well has made a mess of editing. 171 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: It's nice, especially when they keep talking about conspiracy theories 172 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: about It's like. 173 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 3: But what what is the conspiracy what you're saying? 174 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 2: But that's just silly. 175 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 3: Peers for Sunday night, Yes, yes, the head In fact, 176 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 3: I think that's his name. 177 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: I think might come up on Sunday night at the 178 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: concert Hall. You can catch Miriam in Oh Miriam Live. 179 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: It's tickets through concert Hall dot dot a U and 180 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: it's a six pm start, which I think is marvelous. Miriam, 181 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: have a wonderful night on Sunday and we'll catch you 182 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: in Impossibly Australian from April nine. 183 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. I really enjoyed 184 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 2: talking to you. 185 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 4: The next time you stay longer and the three of 186 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 4: us will go. 187 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: Yees yeah. The bank 188 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 3: That's desserted