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Speaker 1: Black Magic Women Podcast acknowledges the traditional owners of the

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Speaker 1: Elders past and present and acknowledge that this always was

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Speaker 1: Aboriginal land and always will be Aboriginal land. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Black Magic Woman Podcast with Mondanara Bails. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to another episode of the Black Magic Women Podcast. My

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Speaker 1: name is Mondanara at Bales, and I am so pleased

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Speaker 1: that all of our viewers. Now we've got a few

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Speaker 2: If you've been listening for the.

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Speaker 1: Last three years, thank you for following my journey. And

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Speaker 1: now to all of our new audience now that's coming

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Speaker 2: So pretty deadly.

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Speaker 1: With that said, I do have an amazing guest sitting

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Speaker 1: sitting on my actual couch in my house back on

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Speaker 1: Cobbycubby Country on the Sunny coast, and here we are

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Speaker 1: now on Gaddigle Country having this. So I really do

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Speaker 1: hope that you enjoy this episode with my Tita, Kelly Mundine.

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Speaker 1: So without further or do sis, can you introduce yourself

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Speaker 1: to our listeners and also viewers on YouTube. Just tell

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Speaker 1: us a little bit about yourself, who your mob is,

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Speaker 1: where you grew up, and maybe some things that people

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm born here on Gadigle Country, here in Campadown

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Speaker 3: of course, Kelly Mundine, I am the older sister of

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Speaker 3: Anthony Mundine. I'm a proud woman of the bunje Lang

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Speaker 3: and the Rodrick tribes. The Radui tribe is my mum

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Speaker 3: and bungje Lang's dad. So big shout out to Annie Lynn.

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Speaker 3: I know annie Lynn. You know back in the day

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Speaker 1: Big shout out. I know my little sister bin Away

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Speaker 1: And then there's that connection because you're the same age

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Speaker 2: So you've known me since I probably before I was

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Speaker 3: Yes, and then you know I grew up around Redfern, Waterloo, Alexandria.

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Speaker 3: We did all our sports in that area, me and Anthony,

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Speaker 3: and also went to Cleveland Street High School. At the

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Speaker 4: Anilyn worked at Clear Yes.

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Speaker 2: There you go there, So I didn't go to Kleva.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of Redfern High but it's Alexandria

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Speaker 1: Park now Community College school. And that's where my nephew

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Speaker 1: Bowari Bales. If you haven't heard of BALI follow the

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Speaker 1: Illawarra Hawks NBL basketball team, used to play for the

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Speaker 1: Sydney Kings, who was born in Queensland, came to Sydney.

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Speaker 1: But Bowali literally graduated from alex Park a couple of

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Speaker 1: go to Alexandria Public School. Yes, and now it's Alexandria I.

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Speaker 1: Wow, So tell us about for people that don't know

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Speaker 1: your father or haven't heard of uncle Tony. Was he

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Speaker 1: the first he won a world title?

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Speaker 4: He was a boxer, Yeah, he went Australian title.

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Speaker 3: So he did fight for a world title and lost

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Speaker 4: And we're Chuck one three.

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Speaker 1: So Tony Mundine is the father of OBVIOUSA Kelly and

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Speaker 1: Anthony Mundine, also known as Chuck Mundane or Anthony the

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Speaker 3: Or see we got with Chuck, we're playing rugby league.

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Speaker 2: So the truck. He was a rugby league playing before George.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they were South juniors and just say as my kids.

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Speaker 3: They went through the South system and then moved on

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Speaker 4: Cries now in July. You know that this year. So

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Speaker 3: But people forget where it all started with himself and

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Speaker 1: Yes, because we were living in Brisbane and he rocked

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Speaker 1: Yes, Remus Smith. Yes, I always tell my kids, hey,

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Speaker 2: You're Jim of the jet Ato car. That's Chuck Mundane.

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Speaker 1: They claim and trail Met, right, everyone claiming trail Met?

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Speaker 3: So I've been in the disability sector for over seventeen years.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people know about the NDIS right, And

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Speaker 3: So when Saint Vincent de Paul had the LAC program,

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Speaker 3: And it was a bit of like next step in

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Speaker 1: All, it could be quite daunting, right for our mob

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Speaker 1: people are quite shaken. So there's this trust that we

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Speaker 1: you know, getting services.

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Speaker 4: Our own business. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: He was at the time, was still boxing and that

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Speaker 4: So it took us over fifteen months.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so that's yep, going through your process, you know,

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Speaker 1: And then was there any kind of support financially from

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Speaker 3: Your bossle So this all come from Anthony's back pocket. Yes,

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Speaker 3: until we built this business and slowly you know, reimbursing.

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Speaker 4: Back to him. So it actually come from Anthony.

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Speaker 2: You had somebody invest in this year business.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's one hundred percent core you know, from

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Speaker 3: And we got thirty two staff, which is majority of

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Speaker 2: And there tell me about that. So the organization.

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Speaker 3: The name of the company, yep, so midbh Midbar is

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Speaker 4: So they can go in for you know, for a

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Speaker 1: So you go into prison and with some of your clients,

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Speaker 1: Isn't important that for when they get released from prison,

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Speaker 3: Yes, and it's good because you know, as we see

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so if we start doing that connection why

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sisters are so important, you know, having this yarn

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Speaker 4: Share the release papers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so the bank wouldn't accept that as I did. So,

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Speaker 2: Can you help me get her bank account. He put

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Speaker 1: She got a bank account open before the birthst it

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Speaker 2: She's still out of prison.

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Speaker 1: So I think a lot of people don't realize, you know,

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Speaker 2: And if you have a.

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Speaker 1: the Indigenous Disadvantage Report from the Productivity Commission. It's called

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Speaker 3: And we never got one set to start up our business, exactly.

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Speaker 1: As someone like my sister getting out of jail not

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Speaker 4: Just imagine if you weren't.

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Speaker 3: So we've got a lot of mob out there that

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Speaker 1: Like you know, I'm pretty sure my sister Ali wouldn't

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Speaker 4: Well we need to look into that, That's exactly it.

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Speaker 1: So we've got our own family members, yeah, that we

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Speaker 4: Sure.

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Speaker 2: Look, so how do people find you?

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Speaker 1: Like, what do you fellows do to make sure that

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Speaker 3: So at the moment, we're just you know, re looking

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Speaker 3: a west, we do go out to I do travel

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00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 3: down to the River Arena I have do you have

444
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 3: participants down there that's you know, that.

445
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 4: So the people.

446
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: Can people just bring up is it that simple to

447
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 1: get registered or do you need to go to your

448
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: GP and going to referral.

449
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 4: Well, you need to get your doctor and then you

450
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 4: get all your assessments done.

451
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 2: You've got to yeah, you get like a seven one

452
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 2: five chat.

453
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 3: And then you've got if you've got to have different

454
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 3: assessments done to put into the NDS when you're doing

455
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 3: your access forms to them because they need certain documentation.

456
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 4: There can be no long longer than two years old.

457
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 1: So it's going to be within the last two years

458
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: you've been to adopted, got your assessments, so then get

459
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: that referral.

460
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 4: Yes to all the other appropriate documentation.

461
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 2: So do you fellows actually help our.

462
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 3: Will Yes, we will help them if they if they,

463
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 3: you know, having difficulty of filling the form.

464
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: You think about a lot of our mom with literus

465
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: and your machine, you being able to read or.

466
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 3: Write, and then that's why they don't come up and go, yeah,

467
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 3: I need support or need help.

468
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 4: You know.

469
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 3: I've traveled out to my dad's community at to by

470
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 3: Yogle and Malama. It's another little career community just about

471
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 3: two k's down where they go. No one comes out

472
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 3: here to us, and when they do come out here,

473
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 3: they charge so much of our plans. So you know,

474
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 3: just satten as a little or I bend over backwards

475
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 3: pretty much and do spend stuff that I shouldn't be

476
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 3: spending by I do it because I need to help

477
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 3: and bridge that gap a bit with our mob. And

478
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 3: like you know, Chuck will always say, like, we just

479
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 3: got to put that little bit extra in, doesn't matter

480
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 3: if it leaves us short. Yes, it's about us getting

481
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 3: paid as well, but it's also how we deliver our

482
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 3: services in our community, no matter black white brenda, we

483
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 3: don't care.

484
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 2: But so your your participants are not just stablished.

485
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 4: Not at all. We've got non indigenous participants as.

486
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 2: Well, and non indigenousupport workers and stuff.

487
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 4: Yes, this is.

488
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 1: Absolutely like I haven't come across an organization that's black owned, right.

489
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 4: One hundred eyed.

490
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: We have to make a point, w it's one hundred

491
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: percent because we know that there's a lot of joint

492
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 1: ventures and there's a lot of black planning, and it

493
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: is right in Australia where it looks like an indigenous business, yes,

494
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: sounds like it, but behind closed doors, the indigenous partner

495
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 1: usually has nowhere to be seen or never even seen

496
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: a bank statement that's right on your loaned organizations based

497
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: here in Sydney that is in the NDIS disability sector.

498
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: Is there any plans for you to grow this organization

499
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:14,959
Speaker 1: are you thinking of?

500
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 2: You know, New South Wales.

501
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 3: Is the best look New South Wales. You know we're

502
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 3: bred and born here, me and Anthony.

503
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 4: But we've just.

504
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 3: Got our new participant in Queensland, so there go as

505
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 3: our service providers. We are national registered so we can't

506
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 3: go into different states, so we are looking at Queensland.

507
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: Well when you think about it, also when I look

508
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 1: at our MOB and Queensland, that kind of southeast pocket

509
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: is overtaking Western Sydney with the highest population of Abaginal

510
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: toushound to people. So it's good if you want to

511
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: make sure that we're also servicing MOB. We're looking at

512
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: where the growth is.

513
00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 3: But we don't want to go in there and take

514
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 3: over because when we go in there, we want to

515
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 3: hire a mob in within that community because that then

516
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 3: puts a little link in our employment as well, because

517
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 3: we are the highest you know unemployment people as they say,

518
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 3: it's our darts, so it's unemployment. Yeah, So I think

519
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 3: if we can make a change there as well, and

520
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 3: that empowers our people to say, look, we can do this,

521
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 3: we can you know, get on this bandwagon. And we

522
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 3: don't have many Crew followers and MO followers and no

523
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 3: our followers that are in the you know, disability space.

524
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 3: So we need to keep pushing it.

525
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: And so it is, it definitely is an under serviced, underrepresented.

526
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 2: Industry and for more, for more of our mob to.

527
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: Kind of take that next it like, sis, did you

528
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: ever think that you would be in business run on

529
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: your own show?

530
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 2: Did you ever think little Kelly Mundane from Redfern would

531
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 2: be running a business?

532
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 4: Not at all?

533
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 3: And you know its just I see my brother climb

534
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 3: you know, his little ladder and then I went to

535
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 3: right to the top and achieve what he has achieved.

536
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 4: And so you know, proud of.

537
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 3: Him because he's always not just looked after his family,

538
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 3: but you know extended community.

539
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 4: Members, betting one that needs help.

540
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 3: Look and people talk about you know he has you know,

541
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 3: over the years, I've grown to have thick skin because

542
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 3: you know, when I was much younger, I turn around

543
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 3: and say what I have to say. But you know,

544
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 3: until people meet him, they don't know him and.

545
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: Hey, Billy did mention this on the young that I

546
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: had with him, like the fact that Billy did was

547
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: a kid and said to Chuck, will you come to

548
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: my gym and watch me train? And Chuck turned out

549
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: to the gym. I said, I couldn't believe Anthony Mundine

550
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: came to the gym to watch me train.

551
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: That says a lot. This fall is not even a

552
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 2: Cory right, No.

553
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 3: He's not, you know, And that just shows the person

554
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 3: Anthony is, you know, going out and just doing what

555
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 3: he knows best what to do. Is you know, he's

556
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 3: always been his own boss ever since he you know,

557
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 3: left Saint Georgia.

558
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 4: Getes I'm going to be my own boss and be

559
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 4: my own CEO.

560
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 3: And then I always just worked and just used to

561
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 3: get my paid fortnight before out, you know, and he goes,

562
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 3: come on, do my nine to five, and you know

563
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 3: a couple of night shifts here and there, and then

564
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 3: he goes, Sis, what don't you just you know, why.

565
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 4: Do you want to be a CEO? One day?

566
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 3: You know, I've got a couple of office spaces at

567
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 3: Mascot like some of the travelodge And I was like,

568
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 3: I don't know, and then he goes.

569
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 4: We just weve got.

570
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 3: To think outside the box as why I've got this platform,

571
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 3: let's use it. So that's why we went the way

572
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 3: we did and be registered. And that was one of

573
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 3: the best days, you know, the fifth of December twenty

574
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 3: twenty two, when we got registered.

575
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:53,239
Speaker 1: I saw that your launch on the block, Yeah, was

576
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: pretty special for the community to come and be part

577
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: of that and to celebrate with you. I think, especially

578
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: our younger generations need to be able.

579
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: To see like you.

580
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: Someone like me, someone that they know can actually achieve

581
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: what we're able to achieve, but you know, to think bigger,

582
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,719
Speaker 1: like what we're doing now. This is the start of

583
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: many more things, I'm pretty sure. And you've got sister

584
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: girl Anna.

585
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 4: J Yeah, working with Look, I just chucked you in

586
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 4: the deep and blesser you.

587
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: So recently you came to the Sunnay Coast and he

588
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: were there to do some training.

589
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, so to buy a new pretty much a new system.

590
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, some software developer was based on the Sunday Coast.

591
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 4: She says, don't worry about it, since I got someone

592
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 4: up there.

593
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 3: I said, all right there, you know, and I haven't

594
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 3: seen you for a long time, you know, since you

595
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 3: were really young, and I think I running to you

596
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 3: at uh I see launch, Yes that day you were

597
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 3: you know, hosting and and again I we got accommodation.

598
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 3: We'll be right, you know, straight away on the phone.

599
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 3: And that was just you know us just connecting on

600
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 3: that level is and reconnecting is deadly because then it

601
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 3: just opens up more doors from mibahan because we do

602
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 3: don't want to just stay here in your stuff.

603
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 4: Was like I said, we want to move to different states.

604
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 3: And build it where we've got MiB on Queensland, MiB

605
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 3: on Victoria or MiB on Western Australia, so we can

606
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 3: make a stance but also empower our people to come

607
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 3: and be in the sector and say, look, you know

608
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 3: we're because we're very caring people. We're we're very loving

609
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 3: and carrying and that's part of who we are and

610
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 3: how we've been brought up. So my mum's always you know,

611
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 3: had his you know, at a home care children.

612
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 4: When we were.

613
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 3: Growing up, it was always being open. Mum's doors always open,

614
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 3: never ever closed. And I used to hate it. So

615
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 3: I said I'm moving out when I was seven, eight.

616
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 2: Years so when I was fifteen some reason.

617
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 3: So I said, look, this is too busy for me,

618
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 3: and so that sort of empowered me, you know as

619
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 3: a black woman, Like they all go oh hey, you

620
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 3: fare skin, you know, and then then they say your

621
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 3: last name is like oh yeah, okay, so but it's

622
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 3: just connecting how Earth has got the platform in all

623
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 3: these states and have a really good positive name. Yeah,

624
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 3: you know, he doesn't drink, don't smoke, don't take any drugs.

625
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 3: I have a drink now and then, but no drugs,

626
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 3: no smoke. And that's you.

627
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 2: Kind of setting you. You are the example.

628
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: You're leading by examples, which is important because once you

629
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: start becoming a bit of a public figure, as Chuck knows, Yes,

630
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: you know a lot of these not just young.

631
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 2: People but our mob in general look up to us.

632
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, we just don't want to be Yes,

633
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 3: we just don't want to be the ones that always

634
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 3: stand that we want to do it. We want to

635
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 3: work in together without the mob. Yeah, you know and

636
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 3: our other mob out there doing njos. And if we

637
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 3: can't take on that participant, Luis, we can ring someone

638
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 3: else to take on the participant and work as a team.

639
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 3: You know, it's so much work for us out there

640
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 3: this is how we will collaborate together.

641
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: I think that's like such a positive note to be

642
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: able to wrap up on is collaboration.

643
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 2: How do we partner?

644
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: Because not all Aboriginal people that are in business right

645
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: now are able to go straight out there to do

646
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 1: business there, usually.

647
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 2: Working as like a T two.

648
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: So there's the main contract with the main and then

649
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: we get brought in, But how do we step up?

650
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: Like you are now and you are the main You

651
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: hold that contract, you're registered now, and that might need

652
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: in terms of other arabitual businesses that are thinking of

653
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: taking the next step, reach out to Kelly and Chuck

654
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: have that yard and just see what steps they took,

655
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: and just know that it's not going to happen tomorrow.

656
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: You've got a good two years to be able to

657
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: get registered, to have all of those ducks lined up

658
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: to then go bang, all.

659
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 2: Right, we're ready, we're going to launch. We're going to

660
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: go out on our own.

661
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 3: I mean it's a big move, but once you do it,

662
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:10,240
Speaker 3: you know, I think it helped me as a black

663
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 3: woman to say.

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Speaker 2: How to navigate the system which is really important.

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Speaker 1: that night, thank you so much sitting here hanging out

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Speaker 1: It's been deadly to have a conversation about the ndies

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Speaker 3: Time, Deadly thank you for giving us opportunity to spread

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Speaker 2: This space to DELI thank you.

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Speaker 1: I hope you've enjoyed this Deadly Yn, especially for all

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Speaker 1: that just says, don't you want to be your own CEO?

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Speaker 1: I know if someone said that to me a long

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Speaker 1: So anyways, I hope you've enjoyed this Yan.

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Speaker 2: Until next time, By for now.

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Speaker 1: If you'd like any more on today's guest, please visit

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