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Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda in the morning po ws.

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Speaker 2: So the findings have been handed down on the Celeste

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Speaker 2: Barber case.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so cast your mind back. You know what a

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Speaker 3: hell of a year we thought twenty sixteen was bad.

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Speaker 3: This year, of course started were those terrible bush fires,

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Speaker 3: and comedian Celeste Barber was horrified when she saw what

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Speaker 3: was happening down to her. I think it was her

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Speaker 3: mother in law's area down in Eden in the south coast.

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Speaker 1: So she set up a very what she thought would

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Speaker 1: be just a shout out.

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Speaker 3: She thought wouldn't be great if we could raise like

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Speaker 3: thirty thousand dollars for the New South Wales RFS, a

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Speaker 3: rural fire service, and also the brigade's donation fund. So

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Speaker 3: those were the things she specified. This in a brilliant way,

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Speaker 3: spiraled out of control in a great, great way. Fifty

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Speaker 3: one million dollars was raised from all over the world,

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Speaker 3: and many people who donated, I think probably including Celeste,

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Speaker 3: thought that that money would be going to a whole

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Speaker 3: lot of the charities, to wires, people working with animals,

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Speaker 3: to people who lost everything through the fires. But it

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Speaker 3: seems that these things are governed by a series of

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Speaker 3: rules and laws. Who knew even Celess said, who knew

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Speaker 3: that studying acting at university wouldn't make you a lawmaker?

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Speaker 1: True? So, and the results have been handed down. The

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Speaker 1: money can only.

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Speaker 3: Go to the New South Wales Rural Fire Service and

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Speaker 3: Brigades Donation Fund. Within that it will be helping for

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Speaker 3: firefighters and the families of firefighters who've lost their lives.

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Speaker 3: It will be used for some of the mental health

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Speaker 3: work that's been done for their volunteer firefighters. But what

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Speaker 3: they're saying here is the money will be spent upgrading

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Speaker 3: safety equipment. That's where fourteen million will go respiratory protection

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Speaker 3: and helmets, twenty million going towards upgrades for the local brigades.

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Speaker 3: They're saying that rest is yet to be described, a

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Speaker 3: lot of helmets, but they will be very transparent about

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Speaker 3: where the money is going. But that is the thing.

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Speaker 3: The money can only go to the New South Wales

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Speaker 3: RFS say.

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Speaker 2: For example, though ex communities RFS gets say five million bucks,

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Speaker 2: an old mate has lost his house and him and

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Speaker 2: his missus Kathy old mate, will they be able to

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Speaker 2: get that in the RFSA, oh, here's five million bucks.

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Speaker 2: You can we give this up in our community to

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Speaker 2: give to people that have been affected by the fires.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think that the income can

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Speaker 3: only be spent two or four The Brigades says here

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Speaker 3: to assist them with purchasing and maintaining equipment and facilities.

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Speaker 3: So even if the local RFS in your area wants

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Speaker 3: to help you, that money can only be spent on that.

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Speaker 3: And that's because these laws are in place to stop

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Speaker 3: charities spending money where they're not allowed to. This law

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Speaker 3: is normally there to protect us against charities ripping us off.

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Speaker 3: But in this case, this snowball what a pun snowboard

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Speaker 3: to a much bigger fundraiser then it was first intended

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Speaker 3: to moll.

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Speaker 2: We've seen firsthand other charities that we've been involved with,

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Speaker 2: Like there was one charity I won't mention it so

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Speaker 2: wreck the charity, but their costs were so much. So

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Speaker 2: they have this big, you know, big gala knight and

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Speaker 2: all that stuff, and by the end of it, they're

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Speaker 2: not getting much out of it all because you've got

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Speaker 2: all your outgoings, You've got to pay for that, you know,

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Speaker 2: you go to those charity nights they try to get

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Speaker 2: as cheap, Like one charity which is great at its

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Speaker 2: save our sons. When they do a charity Bass who

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Speaker 2: used to run it, used to do so good at

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Speaker 2: getting like a boat for he'd get that at cost price,

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Speaker 2: and then the food would be twenty five dollars, so

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Speaker 2: he'd get an alcohol and food package for twenty five

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Speaker 2: dollars ahead, so the ticket would be say one hundred dollars,

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Speaker 2: So all of that goes to the charity. The extra

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Speaker 2: money on top of that, So before they do the

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Speaker 2: auctions and all that stuff that they do on the cruise,

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Speaker 2: they've already made money for the charity. But there's other

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Speaker 2: charities where people say, oh, let's just have a charity

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Speaker 2: for save the kids or whatever, and go and spend

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Speaker 2: all their money on the boat and they'll book someone

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Speaker 2: to come and perform there. Before they know they're getting

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Speaker 2: five percent of your charity dollar is going to the charity.

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Speaker 3: But if you're a registered charity, there are laws in

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Speaker 3: place that stop you pocketing that money yourself, or that

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Speaker 3: stop you giving all that money to someone who isn't

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Speaker 3: deemed to be part of that charity or whatever. So

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Speaker 3: that's what those laws are for, and it seems to

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Speaker 3: in this case have bitten. The people who've donated here

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Speaker 3: bit on the bum. The money won't be wasted, and

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Speaker 3: the money is not going anywhere that it's not needed.

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Speaker 3: But a lot of people donated thinking it was going elsewhere.

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Speaker 3: But this is the final court ruling and this is

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Speaker 3: not the less fault. She has set up this incredible thing.

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Speaker 1: She did this. Think you should raise thirty thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: She galvanized the.

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Speaker 2: Giving her hate online. She's getting the money yourself, yourself getting.

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Speaker 1: A sand itself. Absolutely not, absolutely not.

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Speaker 2: I'll make for a nice four warll drive, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: For the r affairs, well, just a number of them,

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Speaker 1: fair enough, join the and Amanda in the morning. One

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Speaker 1: at one point seven value