1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Do you need someone who has been diagnosed with cancer? 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Cancer and young people is on the rise, and on 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: today's episode, we share some new research that shared a 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: link between how much meat we eat and the risk 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: of developing a number of different types of cancer. Hi, 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: I'm Tidy Burrow, Normi Liam Maud and together we bring 7 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: you the Nutrition Couch, the week in podcast that keeps 8 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: you up to date on everything you need to know 9 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: in the world of nutrition as well as cancer risk. 10 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: We are talking the best hot cross buns in supermarkets land. 11 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: It's a highlight. We have a new breakfast on the 12 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: go to review and our listener question is all about 13 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: the best vegetarian meat replacements. So I'm going to start 14 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: with the fun part of the topic because hot cross 15 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: bunds have been in supermarket since Christmas, and you know, 16 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: when I was younger and more idealistic, I would preach 17 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: to my client's lan no hot cross bunds until Good Friday. 18 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: I was very strict, But now I'm a little bit 19 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: more largely fair with the situation. Particularly it's my boys 20 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: love and I personally have tried this one that is amazing, 21 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: not healthy bud in wool worse. They've got this hot 22 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: cross bun. It's a cinnabun hot cross bun. I've had 23 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,839 Speaker 1: that doo yep, oh my god, it is so good 24 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: and I am also partial to an ice ovo, but 25 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: I want to be very clear these are not healthy. 26 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: There's a cake and another dietestian put up a real 27 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: le all the different types of hot cross buns. So 28 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: I thought it was worth a bit of a chat 29 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: because they're certainly in stores, they're being heavily flogged. There's 30 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: all different flavors. I've seen mint slies, I've seen dorito, 31 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: I've seen as I said, isovovo. There's sticky date pudding. 32 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: Cinnabun is like to die for and I've been having 33 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: one like one like once a week, Like it's delicious 34 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: because they're actually a lot healthier than if you go 35 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: in Sydney to cinnabonn. I don't know if they've got 36 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: them in Brisbane. They're so expensive, like I used to 37 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: only ever have them in Hawaii and when I went 38 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: to get some for the boys, they were so expensive. 39 00:01:55,760 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: So the actual cinnabun is am I saying it right, Sinnabon, Cinnabon, Cinnabon, 40 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: the actual like gooey stuff is the same in the 41 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: hot Cross bud and so they're actually quite a cost 42 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: effective way of enchoining them. So yeah, but what I 43 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: will say, and this is actually your segment as I 44 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: just take over, but in general, the ones that are 45 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: flavored and have got either you know, mint slice or 46 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: ice vogo or double choc mud whatever they are, they've 47 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: got sort of an extra hundred to even one hundred 48 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: and fifty calories, like they come in at two fifty 49 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: three hundred calories minimum. And I think the thing that 50 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: allowed me the most was that the sugars are pretty high, 51 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: Like I feel like they're sort of fifteen twenty grams 52 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: about it sugar and on varieties. So I think the 53 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: best way to think about them is more as a 54 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: cake and very occasionally, rather than something you're just having 55 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: with a cup of tea mid morning leading up to Easter. 56 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're certainly treat but like, can I just bring 57 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 2: you back? Did you say Darrito? 58 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a dorito one this year. Oh that's discussed 59 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: save everyone. I haven't tried that. And as I said, io, 60 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 1: I love it'n icebovery biscuits. So I have had them, 61 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: and they are deliciously, but it's like anything you buy them, 62 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: you can't stop, So you've really got to be self 63 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: controlled and have them as a bit of a special 64 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: treat rather than just hoy in. Because yet, we want 65 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: to be very clear, this is not a segment necessarily 66 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: on health. This is picking ones that are slightly sort 67 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: of better nutritionally if you do enjoy a cheeky Hot 68 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: Cross bud with a cup of tea. Hmm. 69 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna say something potentially the most shocking thing 70 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: I've ever said on the. 71 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: Nutrition cash lie scandalous. 72 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: I'm not a Hot Crosspond fan. 73 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: I've never had been. 74 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 2: My kids love them like you like, I'm just not 75 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 2: really a Hot Cross bond. I kind of think it's 76 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: like stale bread with like sultanas. I will be honest, 77 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: some of these more indulgent ones are a lot nicer, 78 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: but like a Hot Crosspond would be way way, way, 79 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: way way down my sulfid list. But I get that 80 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: some people like them, so that's cool. But I have 81 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: tried some of these more indulgent ones. I think the 82 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 2: Wall Wars ones are better than the Calls ones, if 83 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 2: I'm being honest, and David really loves them, so I've 84 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: had a few and I'll often just have a vital 85 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: to his his to try. But we did a review 86 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: on Instagram of the indulgent mudcake filled hot Responds from 87 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: wool Wears and they are delicious, even better warmed. And 88 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,839 Speaker 2: I've also tried the thinner bond ones as well, and 89 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 2: again I'm not a hot crosspond fan, but they were 90 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: quite delicious too. I think if you warm them up 91 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: they're a lot nicer. 92 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have the cold you got to warm them up. 93 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: They're quite it's quite a lot though, like yeah, I 94 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: have I do only have half of one then I 95 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: think for me with a cupp of tea or crop 96 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 2: of coffee would be enough. But they're quite you know, 97 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 2: they're quite indulgent, as you said, the bigger ones, the 98 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 2: indulgent ones, clocking around that three hundred calorie mark a 99 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: traditional hot Cross bund a normal sized one is around 100 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 2: that two two twenty calories. And the mini ones, which 101 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 2: is what I get for my girls, the plane just 102 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: minifruit ones. They're around that one hundred and forty calorie marks, 103 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,239 Speaker 2: so much more controlled if we're talking about the plain 104 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: mini ones. But I haven't tried much more of the 105 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 2: other ones, and you couldn't pay me to eat it 106 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,119 Speaker 2: to Riado Hot Cross bund. Well, no, maybe we should 107 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: try that together on. 108 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: Camera for someone who claims that a life and you've 109 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: tried a whole lot of them, just quietly so interesting. 110 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: I've tried two of them. 111 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would say in terms of reference 112 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: to bread, like you know, because you might say to 113 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: a client, look, if you love them, enjoy it on 114 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: a weekend with a cup of tea. But they significantly 115 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: more than two bits of toast. So the carbohydrates come 116 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: in at least about thirty eight grams per serve like 117 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: a Hot Cross bun, even if not more, particularly if 118 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: you've got the sugary ones with the chocolate and things added. 119 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 2: With the cinnabon ones are fifty one grams of carbohydrant. 120 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: Oh see that just ruins it off on that when 121 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: you hear that, which is the equivalent to give a 122 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: reference to that, it's like four slices of bread of carbohydrate. 123 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: Like they're certainly dead. Yeah. 124 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: The mudcake ones are less. They're forty one okays, a forty. 125 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: One are really loaded to When I had a look 126 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 1: at how much. I was like, oh my god. But 127 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: what I will say is very handy having a dog, 128 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: because my dog, Taco, he should not be eating this stuff, 129 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: but he loves sweet treats. And if I'm eating a 130 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: hot Cross bun, he I'll give him at least half. 131 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: So it's a very good way to portion control because 132 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: I am not I'm thinking I'm having wine, but actually 133 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: end up having far far less, which is kind of 134 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: the case with kids, isn't it. And for David when 135 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: you scab it off him as well, So sharing it 136 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: is the way to go exactly. 137 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I just have a butt of his 138 00:05:58,400 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: to try. 139 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, but my in outset. You know, if I was 140 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: recommending for people who do really enjoy them, certainly if 141 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: you have them regularly, the minis, you can't go past 142 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: the mini. I love a mini anything because I think 143 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: you get all the enjoyment and for just fewer calories. Like, 144 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: do you really notice that you're not having the full 145 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: size if you're having a mini? I gotta think so. 146 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: So I think they're a very good choice. And both 147 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: Coals and Woollies have the mini varieties, which I think 148 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: is amazing, And the only other one I really like, 149 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: but they're hard to find. Sometimes. The Bootique bakeries and 150 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: I've had them in Coals in the past, will do 151 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: a sour dough hot cross bun in their kind of 152 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: root teem. Yeah, when I'm buying them for East, they're 153 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: the ones that I'll sort of have is the special 154 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: you know, Easter sun day hot cross bun. They're very 155 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: nice though sour doo they come up really crunchy when 156 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: you put them in the oven. So yeah, I think 157 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: that I'm sort of happy to spend a bit more 158 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: because some of them are like six dollars each in 159 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 1: some of the bakeries like they don't miss you. So 160 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: I think the Coal's finests if they've still got them 161 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: this year. The sowur doough one is quite a good 162 00:06:58,560 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: choice as well. 163 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Sado one before as well. So I've tried 164 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 2: a lot For someone who doesn't like them. 165 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: I know, That's what I'm like. She's like, I've tried this, 166 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: I've tried that, So yeah, all talk, let me do. Yeah, 167 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: we agree the minis are the way to go, or 168 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: I think like if you're having the more indulgent ones 169 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: and you love them, like really try and keep them 170 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: freestu after the initial cinnabonn excitement, I've stopped buying them 171 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: now and I'll sort of wait till then. But yeah, 172 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: it's an interesting time of year with those kind of 173 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: treats around all the time. But just keep in mind 174 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: if you are having them, theyre not just two slices 175 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: of bread. They're more like four and as such they're 176 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: pretty dense carb. And actually I had a runner who 177 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: loves them, but she does her long run on a 178 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: Sunday and then has one, and I thought that's actually 179 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: the best time to have something like heavy like that 180 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: is when you've done a lot of exercise. So if 181 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: you're doing a big hike on the weekend or a 182 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: big run or you know, a double back to back 183 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: exercise class, the best time to have it is after 184 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: that because that's when you're muscle screaming to refuel with carbs. 185 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: So they're quite a good refuel option for people who 186 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: have high energy demands. 187 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, not that we're promoting you can only have them 188 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: when you exercise, certainly not, but they are actually a 189 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 2: really good pre worker. I have a client who's quite 190 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: active as well, and she has a Minione as a 191 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 2: pre like a pre gym session before a big leg day, 192 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 2: all before one of those big conditioning type sessions, as 193 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 2: like a pre workout snack instead of her normal dates. 194 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: So yeah, they can work really well as some pre 195 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: workout nutrition as well as some post workout nutrition too. 196 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: True true true. So that was a little bit of 197 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: fun before we move on to the serious stuff. And 198 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: you know, I've had some terrible experiences with cancer recently 199 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: in terms of people I know who have been diagnosed. 200 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: You know, a couple of well known influencers have been 201 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. Another influencer I saw had been 202 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: diagnosed with liver cancer secondary to they believe a boo 203 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: cancer and unmanaged a lull iron was indicative twelve months 204 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: prior to the diagnosis. And I know three or four 205 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: people who've also been diagnosed with breast cancer. So it's 206 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: certainly touching our lives and on many minds. And if 207 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: anyone's listening and you have not had your breast check 208 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: in the last twelve months, if you've never had a colonoscopy, 209 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: if you I don't have a pack speer go because 210 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: these tests are so important when it comes to preventative health. 211 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: But linking into that. I was doing a bit of 212 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: a googly at around current topics out there, and a 213 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 1: big journal, Nature published a big cut study on cancer 214 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: just recently, and I thought, let's have a little look 215 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: at it because it was the title of the study 216 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: just published last week. Vegetarian Diets and Cancer Risk are 217 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: pored analysis of one point eight million men and women 218 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: in nine perspective studies. So this is looking at people's 219 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: baseline diet and looking at their risk and then seeing 220 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: who developed cancer. And the stata are quite phenomenal with 221 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: this enormous data set. So it's over one point six 222 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: million meat eaters, almost sixty thousand poultry eaters, forty two 223 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: thousand prescatarians, sixty three thousand vegetarians and just shy of 224 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: nine thousand vegans in countries right across the UK, US, Tawan, India, 225 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: and a sixteen year follow up. This is a big study, 226 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: a lot of data points looking at all different types 227 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: of cancer, so incidents of mouth cancer, a sophageal, stomach color, 228 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: rector cancer, liver, pancreas, lung, breast, endomet endometrios, indomiti. I'm saying, 229 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: what's wrong with me today? I haven't had any wine, 230 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: not ovarian cancer, prostate kidney platter, No, I have non 231 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: hodgkiss in favor every type of cancer basically, and they 232 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: were looking at risk factor. Now, this is not cause 233 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: and effect, This is not an intervention study. This is 234 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: merely an observational study, but powerful because of the huge 235 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: number of people involved, so very interesting data. Lanne so 236 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: compared to meat eaters, red meat eaters, poultry eaters, so 237 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: people who just ate chicken and turkey had a lower 238 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: risk of some types of cancer, including prostate But it 239 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: was the pescatarians, so those who included fish rather than 240 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: chicken or meat, who had the lower risk of colorectal cancer, 241 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: breast cancer, kidney cancer, and vegetarians had a lower risk 242 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: of pancreatic cancer, breast, prostate, kidney and multiple myloma. But 243 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: it wasn't the vegans land it was only the vegetarians 244 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: that had this reduced risk. So it's very very interesting, 245 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: and that got quite a lot of news headlines because 246 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: I think sometimes people we've known for some time that 247 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: vegetarian diets have a lower risk of a number of 248 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: type of cancers. One they're not exposing to some of 249 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: the molecules that perhaps sore linked to an increased risk 250 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: in the digestive tract, but also that fiber low helps 251 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: to keep the cell healthy. It's a lot more higher 252 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: in antioxidants, in key vitamins and minerals that keep the 253 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 1: cells healthier. But you would in turn assume that a 254 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: vegan dirite would be better. Again, but that was not 255 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: what they found. So the researchers put that down to 256 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: the fat that it was the diets that are higher 257 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: in fruit, veggies and fiber minus the process meets in 258 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 1: particular was the key. But the researchers said that they 259 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: thought the vegans actually don't have any dairy whereas vegetarians 260 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: likely have dairy still, which means calcium and a number 261 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: of key minerals, including vitamin BE two are much lower 262 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 1: in vegan diet, and they felt that's at a protective 263 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: effect when it comes to certain types of cancer, which 264 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: is really interesting in general about the importance nutrient and 265 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: keeping cells healthy. They also thought that one of the 266 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: missing links here was that they didn't compare it to 267 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: people who consumed meat but in a controlled way. So 268 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: what we know is that high intakes of red meat 269 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: and process meat so the sattages, the ham salami, those 270 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:36,599 Speaker 1: foods specifically are linked to it increased risk of digestive cancers. 271 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: But the argument is that if you consume lean red 272 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: meat in the recommended amounts, which is three fifty grams 273 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: a week or less, so a small one hundred and 274 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: fifty gram serve of lean red meat, whether that also 275 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: is lead to it increased risk of cats because the 276 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: argument is if you consume red meat in moderation, it 277 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: doesn't significantly increase cats to risk. It's high red meat 278 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: intaken in particular process may intake. So first of all, 279 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: it's an interesting study. It does show that we need 280 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: to eat more vegetables, and vegetarians can certainly have a 281 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: reduced risk of developing a number of types of cancer. 282 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: But there are plenty of benefits from still including seafood 283 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 1: and for melely, and the main take home is that 284 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: if you have read meat, you've got to reduce the 285 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: portions and it's got to be lean, and you've really 286 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: got to go low on those process meats, particularly if 287 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 1: you've got a family history of any of the digestive cancers. 288 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: Because let's be honest, ultimately, like many medical conditions, we 289 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: will eventually identify that it all comes down to genetic 290 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: risk and hence some people get cancer and some don't. 291 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really really interesting, isn't it. And when you 292 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 2: were saying that it wasn't the vegan diance that reduced 293 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 2: the overall risk, it was more the vegetarian the first 294 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 2: thing I thought of that I have so many clients 295 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 2: that are either vegetarian or vegan, and hands down, I 296 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 2: would say, without even thinking about it, twicegetarian. My vegetarian 297 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 2: diet is always healthier because a lot of my vegan 298 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 2: clients are trying to find the protein, but they don't 299 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 2: like beans or legims, for example, so that eating a 300 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 2: lot of that fake meat, like the vegan sausage, the 301 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 2: vegan bacon, the vegan kind of type of mints. You know, 302 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 2: with a lot of my vegetarian clients are happy to 303 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: have legims, are happy to have eggs, are happy to 304 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 2: have dairy, so they're able to get in an adequate 305 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 2: protein amount in their diet, whereas my vegetarian clients are 306 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: having a lot of like vegan protein bars, vegan protein powder, 307 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 2: as I said, the vegan types of fake meat. So 308 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 2: I think the level of processing. In my experience, I 309 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: know that the research didn't show this, but in my experience, 310 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of my vegetarian clients actually 311 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: have a more whole food diet than a lot of 312 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 2: my vegan clients. Certainly, you can do a very vegan 313 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 2: plant based very well, but in my experience, people don't 314 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 2: do it that well, and it does lead to more 315 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 2: nutrient deficiencies as well, particularly things like B twelve iron, 316 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: And of course you're not really able to get in 317 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 2: a lot of your long chain amiga trees as well, 318 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 2: so there's certainly a lot of benefit with having some 319 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 2: seafood as well. But interestingly, the study did actually show 320 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 2: that vegetarians not all of the risks were lower. So 321 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: one of the things in the study showed that vegetarians 322 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 2: a higher risk of squabas cell carcinoma of the esophagus, 323 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 2: and that's a very very serious type of esophage or cancer, 324 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 2: so that was interesting. And it also showed that vegans 325 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 2: had a higher risk of colorectal cancer. And when I 326 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 2: first read that, I was like, it's that missprint. But 327 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 2: then there was a little bit of a fine print 328 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 2: that said that the vegans studied in the report were 329 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 2: very relatively small amounts, So the authors did urge a 330 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: little bit of caution interpreting this because we certainly know 331 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 2: that meat eaters will you know, we've seen research that 332 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 2: meat eaters have a higher risk of colorectal cancer. So 333 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 2: I think that one is a little bit to kind 334 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 2: of you know, I would definitely take that with a 335 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 2: grain of salt. But interestingly enough that I think the 336 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 2: best thing that we can do, whether or not you 337 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 2: choose to eat meat or chicken or fish or a 338 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 2: fully vegan diet, is that diversity that proper fiber from 339 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 2: whole foods, from whole grains, from legumes, from nuts, from seeds, 340 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 2: not just eating these overly processed types of you know, 341 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 2: vegan protein valves with a whole load of fiber added 342 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 2: in there. We've got to eat that real food. If 343 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 2: you're not getting the bulk from your gumes, your whole grains, 344 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 2: your nuts, seeds, fruits and vegetables, you're not doing it right, 345 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 2: regardless of the type of protein that you're actually getting in. 346 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 2: Because you and I would be classified in the study 347 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 2: as the meat eater, even though I predominantly eat a 348 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 2: lot of vegan and vegetarian food. I eat a lot 349 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 2: of fish like you do, and I do eat some 350 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: chicken and some meat, but it's certainly not very heavy 351 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 2: in my diets. So I do think that these studies 352 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 2: are a bit you know, you've got to take some 353 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 2: of this research with the grain of salt, because you know, 354 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 2: we would, I would argue, you know, better than the 355 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 2: average person. However, we would still be classified as meat 356 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 2: eaters in a study like this. So I do think 357 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: that the bottom line is that good, general, healthy eating 358 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 2: from whole foods matters more than anything, and what you 359 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 2: do regularly matters more than what you do occasionally. If 360 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 2: you occasionally have some bacon with your eggs, with some mushrooms, 361 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 2: with some tomatoes, with some spinach, it's probably going to 362 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 2: be fine versus somebody who is vegan all of the time, 363 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 2: never touches bacon, but does eat a lot of overly 364 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 2: processed foods in other forms as well. So what we 365 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 2: do the majority of the time matters far more than 366 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 2: what we do occasionally, doesn't it true. 367 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: That's why cheeky burger is all right, instantly, am It's 368 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: all right? Grilled cheeky grills all right exactly exactly one 369 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: of my favorite things. So just remember you're coming to 370 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: Sydney and I don't know if we're fitted in this visit, 371 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: but I've got a really good burger locally that i'd 372 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 1: love your thoughts. So since you're a burger officiato, we 373 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: have to put that on ou to do list next time. Definitely, 374 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: because I think you're going to have a burger, you 375 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: want it to be an outstanding one. Is my position 376 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: on all things red meat. Yes, I will try that. 377 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: I'd much rather try that over in the hot Cross buond. 378 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: I think no stinner bonds view when you arrive, all right, 379 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: what are we revealing this week? A drink? It's you 380 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: You're up, got a drink? The drink. 381 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 2: I must say that I opened the website page when 382 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 2: I was like, WHOA like the branding. I'm not not 383 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 2: a huge fan of the branding, but I am a 384 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 2: big fan of the drink. So we'll start by saying, 385 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 2: I personally think the cartoonish type branding isn't for me. 386 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 2: It's it's a bit loud. However, I do like the drink. 387 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 2: So the drink is called new All the website is 388 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,479 Speaker 2: let's noon Leannehere's. 389 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: Trying to get a sponsorship, like just turn it down. 390 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 2: I did say I liked it. 391 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: We haven't briefed. We haven't briefed each other before this session. 392 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,719 Speaker 2: Obviously it is in war West, I believe, and it is. 393 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 2: It is very strong. 394 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: I haven't seen it. It's in wol West though, but 395 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: I haven't seen it. But apparently it's in Wallast. Maybe 396 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: it's not in Mind, but I haven't seen it yet. 397 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, I find it very interesting because of course, 398 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: in this category, Up and Go has ruled the roosts 399 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: for many years, so I'm always interested in new people 400 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: coming in. And if you look at that. 401 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 2: Up and Go like I've you know, I've certainly used 402 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 2: them for clients over the years, but they're heavily processed, 403 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 2: like it's not something that you want to be having 404 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 2: for breakfast every single day. 405 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: The ingredient list is a. 406 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 2: Mile long, and so this one, ingredient wise, is a 407 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 2: lot better. So in the noon milk range, there's three flavors. 408 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 2: There's honey banana, there's creamy vanilla, and there's milk chocolate. 409 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 2: So we are going to review the milk chocolate today 410 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 2: because let's be honest, everybody loves the chocolate milk myself included, 411 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 2: so we're going to review the chocolate one. And the 412 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 2: big sort of marketing tagline is made with real milk, 413 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 2: oats and high protein. So the first ingredient is skim 414 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 2: milk at seventy two percent and we love to see that, 415 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 2: so a really large seventy two percent whole food base, 416 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 2: followed by the next ingredient being water, so you'd imagine 417 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 2: that at least eighty plus percent of this milk popper 418 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 2: is milk and water, which is great. The next ingredient 419 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 2: is milk protein concentrate, and that's how they're getting the 420 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 2: higher protein concentrate in there. Followed by banana pure at 421 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 2: three point five percent, inulin which is a prebody type 422 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 2: of fiber, some natural flavors, some cocoa powder, some oat 423 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: flours unfortunately it's not Celiac friendly. And then we've got 424 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 2: some salt, some mineral salts, quite a few vitamins in 425 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 2: their vitamin C B three A D two B two 426 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 2: B one B twelve B six, some natural color from 427 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 2: bert sugar, some vegetable gum, and some natural sweetener as well. 428 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 2: So a very very good ingredient list and nutrition wise 429 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 2: one popper. I imagine there's six in a pack. 430 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: I reckon there's probably three. I haven't seen it and 431 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: I can't, but I reckon there's probably three. I t 432 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: you like, just because this stuff's so expensive, But maybe 433 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: there's six. I don't know. I no, there was three. 434 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just clicked on the wall west like it 435 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 2: does stay unavailable at my walls. But there is three 436 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 2: apparently in the pack. So in three pack, each popper 437 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 2: is two fifty mils so a cup, and you're getting 438 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: just over six hundred kilodules, so one hundred and fifty 439 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 2: calories of serve whopping, eighteen grams of protein, which is 440 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 2: very strong. Fat is less than a gram, saturated fat 441 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: less than a gram, and that's because the base is 442 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 2: skim milk and water, so very low fat carbohydrate twenty 443 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 2: point five grams, with eleven point eight grams of that 444 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 2: being sugar. The bulk of that is natural from the 445 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 2: skim milk. Also, you're getting a little bit from the 446 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 2: way concentrate and that banana pure as well, and a 447 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 2: tiny mat from the oat flower as well. So yeah, 448 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 2: sugar's eleven point eight gram most I think all of 449 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 2: that is is natural. So that's that's fine. Dietary fiber 450 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 2: six point three grams, which is really really strong, and 451 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 2: I imagine it, Oh, it's coming from the inulum and 452 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 2: the banana puro thirtium. Why is one hundred and forty 453 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 2: four milligrams, which is fine, big whack of calcium, five 454 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty milligrams of calcium, which we love to 455 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 2: see at one hundred percent of the vitamin C, which 456 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 2: is interesting, seventy three percent RDI for calcium recommended daily 457 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 2: intakers ARDI and twenty five percent for some of those 458 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five percent for a lot of those B 459 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 2: vitamins as well. So it is certainly a fortified drink. 460 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 2: I would say that this is an adult drink, not 461 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 2: a not a small child drink. Maybe if you've got 462 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 2: big growing teenagers, that fine, it's fine, But it is 463 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 2: quite heavily fortified with a lot of different vitamins and 464 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 2: minerals in there. So I wouldn't I wouldn't really be 465 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 2: giving this to small children, given that it is a 466 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 2: fortified drink, but very strong nutritionally, very strong ingredient wise, 467 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 2: and I would certainly recommend us to my clients. I 468 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 2: quite like it SUSI. I think it's a great fine. 469 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 2: I wish they didn't use the oats, particularly because the 470 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 2: oat powders any the oat flower zero point five percent. 471 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 2: Poor gluten free friends miss out there. But everything else, 472 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 2: I think it's really strong nutritionally and a huge wack 473 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 2: of calcium as well, isn't it. 474 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very strong nutritionally. So the question I have 475 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: is does it taste good? And I don't know because 476 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: I haven't seen it. I will buy it when I can, 477 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: and I think, yeah, the liquid drink market is interesting 478 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: because whilst you think that they'd be a really big demand, 479 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: it's hard to basically compete with up and Go because 480 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 1: they are the market leader and have been for such 481 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: a long time. So yeah, I think it's very strong. 482 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: To me, it makes sense people want these kind of products, 483 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: particularly I've got a lot of kids at the school 484 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: where they just that's all they have. These boys like 485 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 1: it's interesting. But yeah, I think that I will certainly 486 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 1: be trying it. I hope it survives in supermarket. I 487 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: think the more and more nutritious on the goal options, 488 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: the better. But yeah, I just did. I thought it 489 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: was an interesting one because I know there's a lot 490 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: of parents listening who are often looking for options for 491 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: kids and teenagers and even for themselves. And I like this, 492 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: Like you said, it's a lot lower and keeping, and 493 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 1: it's high in king nutrints and lower and some of 494 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: the additives that the others do. So yeah, check it out. 495 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: It's meant to be and will is It's called Noon 496 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: And yeah, I like it very much, as long as 497 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: it tastes good, and as soon as I find some 498 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: to give the kid to go with it, I'll let 499 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: you know how we find it. All right, the am 500 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: we're talking meat. It's all about meat free today. Now, 501 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: I've had a few vegetarian clients now, not unlike you, 502 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: not good with vegans. I won't lie to you. I 503 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: can't get my protein with vegans very easily, especially if 504 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: they're fussy vegans. But I'm happy if I've got a 505 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: vegetarian who's not too fussy, if they're happy to have 506 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: some dairy. 507 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 2: Some designed by dietitian. Protein powder makes. 508 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: A lot of yeah, and protein powder can be a 509 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: very functional food and a vegetarian diet. So I've got 510 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: a couple of them, and I've spent some time online 511 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: trying to find some decent meat replacements, because when you 512 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: go into that plant based section, it's just a load 513 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: of carbohydrate. It's very rare to find any of the 514 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: sausages or burgers that are all carbs and as you described, 515 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: heavily processed. So I wanted to talk about it a 516 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: product today and answer to the question what is the 517 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: best sort of meat free alternative? Now, if I'm doing 518 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: a diet for vegetarian and I say to them these lines, Leane, 519 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: do you like corn spelled qun and they say yes, 520 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 1: I'm like yes, because this means that I've got a 521 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: vegetarian that I can do a lot weird because corn 522 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: which is correct me if I'm wrongly and it's a 523 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: Sanitarium product? Oh is it SANATAINC or is it a standalone? 524 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: Oh I'm wrong. I thought it was Sanitarium. Sanitarium products 525 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: are very good too, did not. 526 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 2: No, I think it's a standalone Yeah. 527 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a standalone. Sorry, So apologies to the corn people. 528 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: Sanitarium do have other good meat alternatives actually, but corn 529 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: has been around forever and it, unlike many of the 530 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 1: meat alternatives that we see, it has a base of 531 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: a product called micoprotein, which is like a textured vegetable 532 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: type protein that is very very high in protein and 533 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: low in saturated fact because the other issue with a 534 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: lot of vegan and vegetarian replacements is that they're really 535 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 1: high in set traded fat, which it is derived. Actually, 536 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: do I want to tell you what it might when 537 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 1: my coproteins derive from it derived from a fermented fungus. 538 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, it's mushroom. 539 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: But it's it's like a TVP. It's got a very 540 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: sort of texture like meat, and nutritionally is very strong. 541 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: So if the vegetarians bevitus, if vegetarians enjoy it, it's 542 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: a great product. So for example, the mince, the meat 543 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 1: free mints which you can make burritos with, you can 544 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: make patties with spaghetti bolonnaise. It's only got ninety four 545 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: percent of the microprotein, some free range egg white, a 546 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: little bit of caramelized sugar, Barlemott extract, the city regulator 547 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: and firming agent. It's such a clean ingredient list and 548 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: it's got a massive thirteen grams of high quality protein 549 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: and only two point three grams of carbs and low 550 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: sugar and seven point five grams of dietary fiber. So 551 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: if I'm working with a vegetarian, the first thing I'll 552 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: say to them is do you like corn? And then 553 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: they've got a whole range of products that are high protein, 554 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: low saturated fat. I'm so happy. And also I will 555 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: mention in answer to the question of some other vegetarian 556 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: meat replacements, the other ones are the is it the 557 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: so good meat? Is it what they call them, the 558 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 1: Sanitarium Veggie Delights, Yeah, and they do texted vegetable protein. 559 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: So they're the two brands that I will always go 560 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: to and try and hope that my vegetarians like some 561 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: of those products because nutritionally they are far superior than 562 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: most of the other stuff you gotta find in that 563 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: plant based section. 564 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 2: But the mince is in the whole corn range. The 565 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 2: mince is the gold star product. When you start looking 566 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 2: at like the fake chicken snizls and that kind of thing, 567 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 2: they're not as good nutritionally. The mint is the best, 568 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 2: and unfortunately there'sn't plant based because it does have that 569 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 2: addition of the egg white. Funny funny, not so funny story. 570 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 2: I actually had a vegan client once and she was 571 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 2: having this and I was like, did you know that 572 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 2: it does have eggwat in it? She was horrified. She 573 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 2: thought it was fully plant based. She thought it was 574 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 2: fully piggy. I was like, I'm happy for you to 575 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 2: have it. It's a great product, but she wasn't happy, 576 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 2: so I was like, oh, I have to find you 577 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 2: something else. So unfortunately it's not completely plant based. It 578 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 2: does have the egg white in there, but it's so 579 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 2: so strong nutritionally, and it's very very versatile. It is 580 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 2: just a little bit dry than mince, so if you 581 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 2: are making like paddies or something like that, I do 582 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 2: often suggest putting a little bit of egg or something 583 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 2: in there just to help bind it. But it's an 584 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 2: awesome addition. A bag of this plus a Tina Brown 585 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 2: lentils in as like a spaghetti bolonnaise is a great 586 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 2: base and the texture is very very I'm gonna say similar, 587 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 2: Like nothing is going to ever replace mince, but it's 588 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 2: very similar to mincemeat. I think it's very very strong nutritionally. 589 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 2: And the other range I like in terms of the 590 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 2: vegan or vegetarian plant based options are the marinated tofus 591 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 2: as well. I know a lot of people aren't a 592 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 2: fan of tofu because it's very bland. It doesn't taste 593 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 2: like anything, but the marinated range soy Co is the 594 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 2: coal's brand and Macro is the woolworst marinated tofu. They 595 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 2: do a honey soy, a sarte, and I think a 596 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 2: Thai flavor as well, so they're very very easy to 597 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 2: just throw into like a stir fry or uses like 598 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 2: an instead of a paddy. You can use a bit 599 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 2: of marinated honey soyed tofu as well. 600 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: And then I just will take us throughly and one 601 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: more of these Veggie Delight Range, I'll take a quick look. 602 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: These are the veggie based sausages which knowing some vegetarians, 603 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: I think they like this product very much. The taste 604 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: must be quite good. It's twenty two percent vegetable protein 605 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: and then it has vegetable oil, seasoning, starch, oats and 606 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: flavors but pretty low. And it's also fortified lean with 607 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: zinc and iron, which is really interesting. But per serve 608 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 1: n twenty grams of protein per serve, low in saturated 609 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: fat and three point five milligrams of iron and low 610 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: and sugars is only one point seven per serve, So 611 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: again those Veggie Delight ranges are certainly worth looking at 612 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: for a nutrient rich option if you like them, they 613 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: can be really both for tom okay whatever, resist to 614 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: the end of another vegetarian vegan themed recipe theme and 615 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: hot gross bond themed and yeah, we'll think that. Press 616 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: one on the nutrition couch. 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