Speaker 1: Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms. This is the Flex
Speaker 1: and Frooms catch Up podcast.
Speaker 2: I need you to open up these ears and answer
Speaker 2: this question honestly. Do not falter for just a second.
Speaker 2: If you lie, I will find out and catch you.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: What is more damaging to observe online? In particular depressed
Speaker 2: wallowing like nihilism, core apathetic hotness or highlight reels, happy moments,
Speaker 2: toxic positivity? Answer it not you frooms? Answer it okay,
Speaker 2: hot and now listen to this.
Speaker 3: I am a little bit worried that I have sort
Speaker 3: of tik tooked myself into a corner. You know, I
Speaker 3: try to be honest and authentic. I think that that
Speaker 3: is really important. But I'm worried that in my efforts
Speaker 3: to be authentic, I have inadvertently created a persona and
Speaker 3: I feel like I have sort of become just this
Speaker 3: self depreciating like archetype. Life sucks. I hate everything until
Speaker 3: saying so.
Speaker 2: When I saw that video initially, and this creator, Oslo Boslow,
Speaker 2: is someone that I followed for a little while, and
Speaker 2: they make a lot of these kind of like again,
Speaker 2: self deprecating, self referential, like do I just wake up
Speaker 2: every day and go to work and come home, but
Speaker 2: in a comedic way. Okay, I just think their delivery
Speaker 2: is quite funny. But when I watched this video, I said, oh,
Speaker 2: isn't that ironic? Isn't that ironic that you have somehow
Speaker 2: taken what started off as this really joyful, like comedic,
Speaker 2: cynical content, and now it's actually making you hate your life?
Speaker 2: That is crazy. And so I was stuck in this
Speaker 2: like thought cycle about it because I felt really sympathetic
Speaker 2: when I saw the video, and I could see that
Speaker 2: people in the comments were like, is this not a bit?
Speaker 2: Is this not a bit?
Speaker 1: Are you okay?
Speaker 2: I can't tell? What do you need us to say
Speaker 2: in response to this? And then I thought the people
Speaker 2: hating on highlight reels, they need to see some of this,
Speaker 2: because this, to me is a much harder watch to
Speaker 2: be honest. What in a world where we had to
Speaker 2: choose between really honest and apathetic, cynical nihilistic behavior versus
Speaker 2: hyper optimistic toxic positivity. I think you know which one
Speaker 2: I'm taking.
Speaker 1: Optimistic?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, any old day. I love to see a
Speaker 2: person tripping and happy. I love to see a hotty
Speaker 2: yet hotter. I love to see mandem on vacation who
Speaker 2: Mandem gadem I just love to see people enjoying. I
Speaker 2: just feel like I'd rarely go on the internet see
Speaker 2: something having the best time and get secondhand cringe or
Speaker 2: any kind of feelings of like disdain for it. I'm like,
Speaker 2: this is so sick. I want to be happy, Like, oh,
Speaker 2: what gig is that? That's so cute. It's just like
Speaker 2: it's second nature for me to see someone, not see someone.
Speaker 2: But you know, when I often see enjoyment, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's fun, that's funny.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you get jealous.
Speaker 2: I get like, oh, I want to be outside, what
Speaker 2: are we doing? Like I get a comparison, right Mike
Speaker 2: could be or when I declined to go someone like, oh,
Speaker 2: dad really having fun. I want to have fun. But
Speaker 2: when I see someone commiserating, I'm like, skip, I know
Speaker 2: what it is?
Speaker 1: What is it for me?
Speaker 2: Personally? I just think and like it's gonna sound terrible
Speaker 2: to say, but like people are going through harder things.
Speaker 2: I just don't care in the sense that like, are
Speaker 2: you sure, babe, No, It's not everything. Like let's say, like,
Speaker 2: for example, I saw this video the other day of
Speaker 2: this girl being like, oh, you know, like I went,
Speaker 2: I saw this invitation online for a mixer for like
Speaker 2: swingers party. It was like, you know, girls, like local
Speaker 2: girls getting together to meet and enjoy and whatever, and
Speaker 2: she's like and I went, and like it just wasn't
Speaker 2: like what I thought it would be, Like nobody was
Speaker 2: coming up, and I just feel like, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't want to say say I was misled, but it
Speaker 2: just felt like they needed to be like more effort
Speaker 2: put into making sure we were each individually having a
Speaker 2: good time. Squirrel scirrel scirrel scirl didn't really like felt
Speaker 2: neutral about it. Then I actually see the event and
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, oh, Like it was literally people sitting
Speaker 2: on picnic mats, Like what were you expecting? And like,
Speaker 2: obviously we're not having one homogeneous experience. But I just
Speaker 2: felt like, what was the narrative that you were trying
Speaker 2: to share. Was the party not good or you're saying
Speaker 2: we shouldn't go to it. Was it an observation of
Speaker 2: how you felt in space where people weren't inviting you
Speaker 2: into it, not that Like everything that I need to
Speaker 2: see in experience online needs to be helpful to me.
Speaker 2: And so when I think about the way that people
Speaker 2: observe the Internet and what often they're kind of like
Speaker 2: highlight reels are so damaging and we end up comparing ourselves.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what's also damaging is inviting us to wallow
Speaker 2: with like no purpose either, you know, like inviting us
Speaker 2: to shit on something. Inviting us to critique on something
Speaker 2: like that is not better. Yes, it can be more entertaining.
Speaker 2: I love seeing someone rant, it's funny. But in the
Speaker 2: grand scheme of things, for every like rant you see,
Speaker 2: I don't think we're scaled evenly enough that. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I think we could do with more like optimistic not
Speaker 2: just like toxically, but like the depressed wallowing. I'm like,
Speaker 2: is this really helping us? Or is it just giving
Speaker 2: us more tools to like whatever? The physical version of
Speaker 2: that noise is? How do you feel about wife? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What do I like personally?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: What do you think is more damaging to observe? For you?
Speaker 1: Give me one one second?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I know some people who are like this
Speaker 2: highlight reel stuff. Really it eats at me, Like I
Speaker 2: don't hate to see another person doing something that I'm
Speaker 2: not doing.
Speaker 1: I get eate it at that for sure. That sucks
Speaker 1: when I'm in a bad place. When I'm in a
Speaker 1: bad place, the fun times eat at me, and the
Speaker 1: negative things make me feel better because I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: at least I'm not posting about it.
Speaker 2: Ah, but ah, like I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't like people that do post things like you know,
Speaker 1: people post like mental health. Here's the thing of me crying,
Speaker 1: Like I just think of beliheaded crying.
Speaker 2: I don't know those I see how.
Speaker 1: Knows the ones? Yeah, all the pizza posts. And she
Speaker 1: had a lot of crying posts too. This is the
Speaker 1: this is the reality, Like I feel like people that
Speaker 1: post this isn't what real life is on the internet,
Speaker 1: Like come from the right place. I want to say,
Speaker 1: it's pretty obvious that life isn't always exciting a vice
Speaker 1: all the time. How do I feel about it? I
Speaker 1: just mine's too convoluted because I post content that lives
Speaker 1: in an ecosystem, so I'm never I'm never looking at
Speaker 1: something purely from like an observation lens. I'm looking at
Speaker 1: being like, oh can I read post this? Oh what
Speaker 1: do I think about this? Like? Oh, what is the
Speaker 1: climate of the Internet that I now exist in? Like
Speaker 1: it's like a chef now notices everything in a piece
Speaker 1: of food. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: You're rarely just like as a concert humor of this
Speaker 2: content that didn't hit.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: I never just consuming content, never ever, ever, she said,
Speaker 2: highly strung, always on. Yeah, in a good way, on
Speaker 2: a hot way, in.
Speaker 1: A hot way. But I like I like nonsense. My
Speaker 1: favorite thing is to watch like a TikTok that's got
Speaker 1: like all these crazy noises and this random footage. It's
Speaker 1: the funniest thing.
Speaker 3: Ever.
Speaker 1: We'll post one on the page when this goes.
Speaker 2: Oh, we'll post a thousand anyway. Miss you already, Bye bye.
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