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Speaker 1: My Heart podcasts here, more Gold one on one point

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Speaker 1: seven podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Playlists and listen live on the Free iHeart app and

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Speaker 2: Amanda jam Nation.

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Speaker 1: The man himself behind that very band, the man behind

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Speaker 1: that very song, Graham, Bidstrip Joint, Bidstrup Joints.

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Speaker 3: Do you want to be Buzz? Does anyone call you Graham?

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Speaker 4: Only my wife and my mum used to, but Buzz

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Speaker 4: would be fine.

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Speaker 2: Let's do Buzz because when you joined the Angels, they said, well,

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Speaker 2: we can't have Graham in the.

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Speaker 4: Bad That's right. It was really weird. They were you know,

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Speaker 4: John Rick, Doc and Charlie, you know, and they said Graham.

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Speaker 4: They said, that's a bit weird. And I just said,

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Speaker 4: what about Buzz. And I'd had this name buzz Throckman

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Speaker 4: that we made up in Denmark right when I backpacked

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Speaker 4: around Europe, and we just made up this name buzz Throckman,

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Speaker 4: so he became Buzz.

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Speaker 1: Look, obviously I know you from obviously the Angels, but

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Speaker 1: I wasn't aware that you were also behind so many

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Speaker 1: of the other bands, the Party Boys and Ganga Jang.

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Speaker 1: And you tell very interesting story in the book about

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Speaker 1: this line, the iconic line from that song almost didn't make.

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Speaker 4: It in it almost didn't. We were out of a rehearsal

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Speaker 4: room and Jeffrey Stapleton, a lovely keyboard player, said to

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Speaker 4: Mark Callahan, the writer of the song, you know that line,

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Speaker 4: this is Australia. It's a bit jingoistic and you know

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Speaker 4: it's a bit like maybe we should get rid of it.

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Speaker 4: And Cols said, yeah, yeah, maybe we should get rid

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Speaker 4: of it. I went over my dead body, you know,

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Speaker 4: because it was something I thought that was intrinsic to

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Speaker 2: Out when those secrets came out and in the book

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Speaker 2: you described this.

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Speaker 5: You're recording those secrets. It's a great song.

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Speaker 2: And then you get the call the Bond Scott has

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Speaker 2: passed away, and Bond Scott Scott was a friend of yours.

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Speaker 2: He was instrumental in getting the Angels together.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he got them their deal with Vander and Young.

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Speaker 4: So the Bond and Angus and Malcolm the Angels before

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Speaker 4: were called the Keystone Angels and they did a tour

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Speaker 4: with ac DC in southa Strain and they suggested them

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Speaker 4: to Vander and Young. So yeah, very much. Though Bond

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Speaker 4: was very interesting.

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Speaker 2: So when you hear no Secrets, does that bring back

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Speaker 2: memories to that day because it was pretty much you

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Speaker 2: recording it and it happened.

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Speaker 4: Yet the news it does, it does indeed, And it

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Speaker 4: was a very somber moment, and we drank to his

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Speaker 4: health and then then adopted the vogel.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and that was it.

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Speaker 2: Ye.

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Speaker 1: So many of the people that you write about and

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Speaker 1: that have been part of your life are no longer

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Speaker 1: with us. What's the sliding door that that keeps you here?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Gee? I just think I'm just lucky, you know, because

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Speaker 4: I've had reasonably good health. I think I managed to

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Speaker 3: Milo years.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I got out of them early enough, you know.

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Speaker 4: And the work that I do now with the Jimmy

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Speaker 4: Lyttle Foundation, like doing that work that keeps me really

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Speaker 4: really busy, and it keeps me active, and I think

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Speaker 4: that's a really important thing. And the older you get,

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Speaker 4: the more active you can be in brain and body,

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Speaker 4: then you know you're going to stay around a bit longer.

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Speaker 5: It must provide great succor to see that the.

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Speaker 2: Angels, now like they're pretty much after all these years,

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Speaker 2: are still available on YouTube and even just reading this book,

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Speaker 2: and I'd recommend this to anyone. You're reading those secrets,

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Speaker 2: you can dial into various times of your career, so

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Speaker 2: it's like they've got a new lease on life. But

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Speaker 2: on one hand, do you hate it when people say, oh,

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Speaker 2: the Angels they were robbed or they never got there?

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Speaker 2: Does that drive you crazy?

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Speaker 4: Look? I think I think no. Getting to this age

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Speaker 4: when you've got a chance, you've got to take it.

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Speaker 4: The Angels had a chance in nineteen eighty when we

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Speaker 4: were touring there when in the England touring America. So

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Speaker 4: we toured England and America in nineteen eighty and explaining

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Speaker 4: the book that I was sitting in a motel in

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Speaker 4: and thinking to yourself, well, if we didn't have a

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Speaker 4: we're in this. We've had five years of building it

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Speaker 4: I reckon three to five years. But if if everyone

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Speaker 4: had said, yes, let's do it, I think we would

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Speaker 4: have made it right. And if we hadn't left Alberts,

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Speaker 4: like we actually bought out of our contract with one

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Speaker 4: was all over. We should have stayed with Alberts, we

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Speaker 5: And would you say this to a young band?

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Speaker 2: So a young band comes up to you and they say, right, buzz,

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Speaker 5: What's the key?

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Speaker 4: The key is when you get your opportunity, make sure

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Speaker 4: you realize that opportunity and understand that you don't actually

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Speaker 4: get one or two or three or four chances. You

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Speaker 3: One, and that sacrifice comes with that.

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Speaker 4: It does. Absolutely you've got to be prepared to say,

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Speaker 4: we've spent five years getting it to this point, are

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Speaker 4: we going to spend another three years getting it to

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Speaker 4: the next level. And it really, it really is. You

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Speaker 3: Does it burn you up? Do you see that at

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Speaker 3: three in the morning.

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Speaker 4: No, I just I just go that was that part

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you worked in films, You've done a lot

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Speaker 4: I know, it's just really weird. I just because because

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Speaker 4: playing in bands. I love walking into a studio with

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Speaker 5: To get on the drum kits.

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Speaker 4: Still yeah, absolutely all the time. I'm always writing, I'm

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Speaker 4: house music and stuff. Oh yeah, but he's good. He's good.

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Speaker 4: He plays drums too, so Wig and jam.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like a life World Live bus it is.

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Speaker 5: It's a good life. It's a good life. And Doc

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Speaker 5: in and I ended up.

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Speaker 4: To you guys, well, I ended up sort of.

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Speaker 2: It's weird how because I was such a fan of

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Speaker 4: I gave it to him.

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Speaker 5: At certain times, usually late at night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he'd said, Jonesy, it's Doc, and I Hey,

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Speaker 2: Joe Dog, and he's I've got an idea. But he

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Speaker 2: did come up with Rock for Doc, which was our

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Speaker 2: backyard Jam series, which was a great.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely And when we did the Rock for Doc concert,

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Speaker 4: which I revisited dis Rich that you guys were there,

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Speaker 4: yeahsted he with the hosts and that concert is actually amazing.

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Speaker 4: I've got all of the video for it. I've got

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Speaker 4: all of the audio for it.

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Speaker 5: Would that ever be released?

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Speaker 4: I actually talked to Michael Borgland from Beyond about that

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Speaker 4: where we honor the support out side of that and

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Speaker 4: we can get it get it post produced, yep. I

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Speaker 4: reckon it'd be a great show it and we've got.

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Speaker 1: To get Peter Garrett performed yeah, camera stood up saying

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, yeah.

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Speaker 5: But everyone was there.

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Speaker 4: Everyone half was there, David Hasselo.

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Speaker 2: Right, but how many there were like fourteen acts.

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Speaker 3: It was all there to support Doc nice and when

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, but there was two minutes in between each and

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Speaker 2: I remember saying to the organize, you guys, say, you're

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Speaker 2: talking about bands here, there's no way, no band will.

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Speaker 5: Be off stage in two minutes. And they did.

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Speaker 4: We did it, We did it, and I had I

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Speaker 2: And we had to you and I had to pad

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Speaker 1: It was just extraordinis, very well all machine And that

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Speaker 3: Wasn't He could feel it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah it was. And to see that his the

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Speaker 4: whole thing sort of came down to all of his

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Speaker 4: friends performing for him. And then when he came out

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Speaker 4: on stage and say his top hat, yeah, yeah, just

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Speaker 2: Well, Buzz, the book is great, Get it now, no secrets.

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Speaker 2: It's available now, Graham Buzz. That's right now, right now,

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Speaker 2: available at all good bookstores.

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Speaker 3: Thank you buzz great to see you