WEBVTT - Anonymous Influencer Encounters Break the Internet

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<v Speaker 1>This is outspoken.

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<v Speaker 2>The podcast is not afraid to say exactly what you're thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>Our names are.

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<v Speaker 2>Amy Kay and Sophie Torba. We're identical triplets, but we

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<v Speaker 2>often don't have identical opinions, so sometimes things can get heated.

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<v Speaker 2>Outspoken covers all things reality TV, influences, entertainment, and issues

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<v Speaker 2>facing women.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so fat thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>This is becoming a bit of a regular occurrence. We

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<v Speaker 2>have now been blocked by arguably Australia's biggest influencer, Shanni Grimmon.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got to.

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<v Speaker 2>Say this one personally cut deep for me because I

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<v Speaker 2>picked Shanny in our snog Marry and Avoid, and I

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<v Speaker 2>picked her to Mary, So I feel like this is

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of public declaration that she doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>marry me back.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I feel personally offended?

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<v Speaker 2>I picked her too, and not only has she blocked

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<v Speaker 2>the Outspoken Instagram page, she's also blocked our personal pages.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that's a big fe you can. I

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<v Speaker 2>put it on the record, I now pick Sammy Robinson

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<v Speaker 2>to marry. I'm just so surprised because I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>we really saying her praises a lot on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, well, I do think it's got something to

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<v Speaker 2>do with the fact that we shared a meme last

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<v Speaker 2>weekend featuring her and her ex's new partner, Madison Wooly,

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<v Speaker 2>which will go into a little bit later, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's got something to do. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 2>we should make up a chart of who's blocked us now,

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<v Speaker 2>because I feel like we're getting a lot of influences

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<v Speaker 2>who are blocking us. It reminds me of on mean

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<v Speaker 2>Girls when they've got that blackboard and they just cross

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<v Speaker 2>out the things to bring Regina Georgetown. The funniest thing

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<v Speaker 2>is I told Mom that Shaney Grimman had blocked us,

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<v Speaker 2>and she actually follows Shany Grimman because we went onto

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<v Speaker 2>her Instagram and followed a whole bunch, and she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I really want to block her myself. What I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to do is I'm going to keep an eye on

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<v Speaker 2>it for you. And she has stuck to a word.

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<v Speaker 2>She's been sending me like Instagram screenshots and it's so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>You mom, mum's the best. If you don't have a

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<v Speaker 2>mum who can keep up to date with influencers who

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<v Speaker 2>block you, you've got to have a good old fashioned

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<v Speaker 2>burner account or yeah, exactly, I mean, who doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>a burner account in these days. I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think people should have ones to troll people, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to view Instagram stories that you want to view. A

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<v Speaker 2>non Gina would be nothing without her high status, man candy,

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<v Speaker 2>technically good physique, an ignorant band of loyal followers. On

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<v Speaker 2>Wednesday night, celebspellcheck reeked havoc on the social media world,

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<v Speaker 2>sharing explosive, unverified gossip about Ozzie influencers. While names were

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<v Speaker 2>censored from the screenshots, it didn't take long for followers

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<v Speaker 2>and other gossip accounts to start naming and shaming Kate.

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<v Speaker 2>For those who missed it, what happened, Well, it all

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<v Speaker 2>started when celeb spelcheck put a call out for people

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<v Speaker 2>to send in gossip and encounters with Ozzie celebs and influencers,

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<v Speaker 2>and she reiterated that people would remain anonymous. So once

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<v Speaker 2>celeb's spellcheck received a whole bunch of them, she started

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<v Speaker 2>sharing the posts and she blanked out, obviously the people

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<v Speaker 2>that had sent them in, but she also blanked out

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<v Speaker 2>the celebrity or influencer's name, but she kind of left

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<v Speaker 2>a little clue of who it might be. So sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>she would write like an one hundred k influencer or

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<v Speaker 2>a cashed up bogan. So the little clue. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>know what this reminds me? I know we touched on

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<v Speaker 2>me and Girls before, but it reminds me of the

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<v Speaker 2>scene when the burn book has been photocopied and put everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that kind of frantic panic of everyone reading about themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Meet out with a hot dog? Oh my god, that

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<v Speaker 1>was one time. Don Schweitzer has a huge ass.

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<v Speaker 2>Who would write that?

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<v Speaker 1>Who wouldn't rate that? Come quick, They've gone wild? The

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<v Speaker 1>girls have gone wild? Yeah, it really was.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. It's also important to note though, that while celeb

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<v Speaker 2>Spellcheck is a legend, it is actually important to note

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<v Speaker 2>that they borrowed this idea from American celebrity gossip account

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<v Speaker 2>des Moi, and they actually have over seven hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>sixty six thousand followers, and they started their account about

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<v Speaker 2>ten months ago during COVID and instead of sharing influences gossip,

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<v Speaker 2>they usually share celebrity stories. What is quite interesting is

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<v Speaker 2>that it is an anonymous person who runs this page

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<v Speaker 2>similar to celeb Spellcheck, but apparently Hailey Beaber thinks she's

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<v Speaker 2>worked out who this person is. Yeah, it's like the

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<v Speaker 2>account is massive, as the likes of you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>list celebrities following it, and it seems like there is

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<v Speaker 2>this witch hunt like there has been with Celebs Spelcheck

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<v Speaker 2>to find out who's actually running it. I read this

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<v Speaker 2>amazing article in Vanity Fair about the hunt of who

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<v Speaker 2>this account owner was, and she actually did an interview

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<v Speaker 2>in the magazine which was really interesting. Or we should

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<v Speaker 2>probably get into some of the goths that actually came

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<v Speaker 2>out on celeb Spelcheck's into story, because there were plenty

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<v Speaker 2>of juicy stories.

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<v Speaker 1>What were your favorites.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got to say the one that piqued my interest

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<v Speaker 2>the most was that a massive influencer and her partner

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<v Speaker 2>said that the reason that they don't have kids yet

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<v Speaker 2>is because she likes coke too much. Of course, my

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<v Speaker 2>favorite was the peasant comment. So apparently there's an influencer

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<v Speaker 2>who went to a nightclub and called about eight different

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<v Speaker 2>people a peasant, and for some reason everyone thought it

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<v Speaker 2>was Sky Wheatley, and she came out and hit back

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<v Speaker 2>and said, if I'm that out of my mind drunk,

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<v Speaker 2>how could I call eight different people the same name?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know how that logic works. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't actually think it would have been her doesn't sound

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<v Speaker 2>like sky to me. She's been I think she's quite

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<v Speaker 2>lovely to people. You know what she's out and about. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but if you're drunk, I could actually imagine like her

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<v Speaker 2>being really stilly, like you know, on those American trips

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<v Speaker 2>that she did, and like out doing those funny voices

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<v Speaker 2>with Michael Finch and Shiny Grimman, Like. I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>could see it happening, But she has denied it, which

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<v Speaker 2>it's important to note. What about the rumor that came

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<v Speaker 2>out that a big influencer's boyfriend had joined someone's only

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<v Speaker 2>fans account. Oh, that would be so embarrassing for that

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<v Speaker 2>influencer if it came out. But there's he knows that

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<v Speaker 2>many boyfriends of Instagram, do you know what I mean? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a few people that just instantly spring to mind.

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<v Speaker 1>But surely he'd know.

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<v Speaker 2>That would come out if your high profile and you're

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<v Speaker 2>joining different people's accounts. Well, Amy, as you touched upon

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that celeb spellcheck gave clues, they kind of

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<v Speaker 2>narrowed it down who it could be out of quite

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<v Speaker 2>a small pool of people. So that's when Ozzy influencer

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<v Speaker 2>Opinions got involved. Now there are a relatively new Instagram

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<v Speaker 2>site that calls out influencers, and they decided to piggyback

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<v Speaker 2>off Celeb's spellcheck segment and they were posting, well, they

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<v Speaker 2>actually put up a post asking people who do you

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<v Speaker 2>think celeb Spellcheck's talking about? And they started to share

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<v Speaker 2>the responses. Was also unfortunate is that Celeb's spelcheck accidentally

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<v Speaker 2>put up a submission without the influence name block, so

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<v Speaker 2>it said my friend was working with Shiny Grimman for

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<v Speaker 2>the latest campaign for her swimwear brand, and she constantly

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<v Speaker 2>was dropping the most discussing parts and wouldn't excuse herself

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<v Speaker 2>after doing it, but just laughed and said, at least

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<v Speaker 2>we're all being paid, right. See. I wish we knew

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<v Speaker 2>that before we did the the snog Marry avoid segment,

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<v Speaker 2>because I would have avoided her. I'm not into someone dropping.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got to say that these people have sent these

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<v Speaker 2>in and they're unverified posts like so, while it's hilarious

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<v Speaker 2>and I did get a good chuckle out of that,

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<v Speaker 2>especially after she blocked me, I do think it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>important to say that these are unverified posts like literally

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<v Speaker 2>anyone could be sending in anything about these influencers, Well

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<v Speaker 2>there was It wasn't there a finster account that was

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<v Speaker 2>discovered for someone actually sending in nice comments about themselves,

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<v Speaker 2>Because after Celeb's spellcheck and a bit of the dirty laundry,

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<v Speaker 2>they actually put up hundreds of nice comments that were

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<v Speaker 2>left well back to the negative posts. And Sky Wheeley

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't the only influencer to deny the rumors. Ashley Meski

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<v Speaker 2>actually wrote a really lengthy post on her Instagram story

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<v Speaker 2>denying that she was the Insta twin who was rude

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<v Speaker 2>to a lash technician. This one was a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>embarrassing because they said that the person in question actually

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<v Speaker 2>asked to get the lashes for free. She then went

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<v Speaker 2>on to call celebs spellcheck a drama page. Well maybe

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<v Speaker 2>she was trying to point the finger at her sister.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that was the twin.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's not too many insta twins out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. Christine Swadling was another influencer who hit back at

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<v Speaker 2>the rumors. She said that she actually wrote quite a

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<v Speaker 2>lengthy post, which to me kind of made her sound guiltier.

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<v Speaker 2>So Christine went into quite a lot of detail and

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<v Speaker 2>she wrote, So one day in winter, I was shopping

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<v Speaker 2>for a top for the weekend. I went into General

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<v Speaker 2>Pants at my old hometown and tried this top on.

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<v Speaker 2>I was getting warm, so I kept my jumper off,

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<v Speaker 2>hung it over my bag, put the top back, and

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<v Speaker 2>walked into another store. Ten minutes later, General Pants staff

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<v Speaker 2>members and security guards came up to me and checked

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<v Speaker 2>my bag. Security saw it was a jumper and laughed

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<v Speaker 2>and apologized. Anyway, Obviously, some of the staff at General

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<v Speaker 2>Pans followed me on Instagram and posted all over Facebook

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<v Speaker 2>that I stole, even though it was clarified I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>just to spill some tea where tea wasn't spilt.

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<v Speaker 1>Ps, did you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Bullying is still bullying even if you have a following

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<v Speaker 2>Celeb's spell check. I'm all for her actually explaining and

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<v Speaker 2>going into detail about what happened, because it does seem

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<v Speaker 2>like things must have got muddled along the way in regards.

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<v Speaker 1>To this story.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I don't like is her referring to celeb

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<v Speaker 2>Spellcheck as a bully.

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<v Speaker 1>Look.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got to say, though, I feel like when you're

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<v Speaker 2>lying about something, and I'm not calling her a liar,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm just saying when someone accuses you of something,

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<v Speaker 2>you generally then come up with an excuse, and this

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<v Speaker 2>to me kind of sounds like a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>an excuse, like, oh, this is why I got stopped

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<v Speaker 2>by security. Like I'm not saying she did it. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just saying, like you know, when you get caught out line. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>But then again, it kind of almost sounds like something

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<v Speaker 2>that would have happened, that could have been twisted. But

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like, I don't know if it was

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<v Speaker 2>the best thing for any of these influences to actually

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<v Speaker 2>acknowledge the rumors, because it just gives validity to them,

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<v Speaker 2>and it kind of makes you think, oh, wow, well

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<v Speaker 2>everything else that was sent in must have been true.

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<v Speaker 2>To be honest, though, if it was me and someone

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<v Speaker 2>was spilling some shit about me and I would say something,

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<v Speaker 2>But no, but the thing was Christine Swaddling wasn't actually

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<v Speaker 2>named mbers going around that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, maybe it was her, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of the descriptions, it was kind of obvious to

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<v Speaker 2>who it was. I actually agree with Sophie. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was good that they came out and defended themselves

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<v Speaker 2>because a lot of people probably were dming them and

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<v Speaker 2>saying is this you and Alicia's come out and cleared

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<v Speaker 2>up what had happened or her side of the Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 2>can we get back to the Aussie Influencer Opinion account

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<v Speaker 2>for a second, because they just seemed to have appeared

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<v Speaker 2>out of nowhere and it seems very suspicious because in

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<v Speaker 2>the past week, Pedestrian has done four different articles on

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<v Speaker 2>this page. Yeah, the timing of this is very strange

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<v Speaker 2>because on the seventeenth of February, Pedestrian shared their first

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<v Speaker 2>article about the page and it was almost like they

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<v Speaker 2>were introducing everyone to the page.

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<v Speaker 1>They even shared links to go follow it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, well, I thought it was even stranger because it

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<v Speaker 2>was only the previous week when they did that big

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<v Speaker 2>expose trying to reveal who celeb spellcheck was. It seems

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit fish to me. It got me thinking like,

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<v Speaker 2>does someone from Pedestrian run this account or someone associated

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<v Speaker 2>with someone that works there, because it seems to be

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<v Speaker 2>getting a lot of free promotion, including a follow up

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<v Speaker 2>article the same day talking about the eleven different times

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<v Speaker 2>that the page spilt tea on Ossie Influencers Funnily left,

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<v Speaker 2>the article only included five different times, so it's like

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<v Speaker 2>total beat up as well well the fact that they

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<v Speaker 2>actually interviewed the person behind the page. I mean, think

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<v Speaker 2>about how many people are looking to find out who

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<v Speaker 2>celeb spellcheck is the fact that someone who runs a

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<v Speaker 2>similar page would then out themselves to a media company

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<v Speaker 2>that just seems crazy to me. Well, as you said,

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<v Speaker 2>this was like the following day more articles emerged. So

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<v Speaker 2>the third article actually involved celebs Spellcheck and des Moire

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<v Speaker 2>and were saying, how you know, the Oussie opinion influencer

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<v Speaker 2>is like that third cog in the wheel about keeping

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<v Speaker 2>influencers to account. And as you said, the fourth article

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<v Speaker 2>on the same day was an actual interview with the

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<v Speaker 2>person that runs the account, which is very strange. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like it isn't someone from a Pedestrian though, because

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<v Speaker 2>the page seems quite reckless in what they report. It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't seem to stick to any guidelines. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 2>were posting up, you know, fodder of who these people are,

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<v Speaker 2>and it did feel like it was verging a bit

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<v Speaker 2>on defamation. But that doesn't that doesn't mean that the

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<v Speaker 2>person doesn't work at Pedestrian TV. It means that they're

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<v Speaker 2>now able to say whatever they want because no one

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<v Speaker 2>knows who they are, I know, but I'm saying that

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<v Speaker 2>if you were a journalist working for a publication like that,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure that they are aware of media law and

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<v Speaker 2>what you can and cannot say.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like it's made by someone perhaps who's a

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<v Speaker 2>bit younger and who has been caught up in the

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<v Speaker 2>whole celeb spellcheck phenomenon. Well, they did actually name celeb

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<v Speaker 2>spell Check as inspiration for starting the page, and I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like their strategy behind getting more followers is basically

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<v Speaker 2>being more shocking than.

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<v Speaker 1>Celeb spell Check, because we've seen celebs.

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<v Speaker 2>Spellcheck kind of evolve, and she kind of seems to

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<v Speaker 2>have this authority over the influence of space, and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people seem to respect her opinion because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she now is avoiding sort of calling people out too much.

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<v Speaker 1>She blocked people's names out. However, this person was happy

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<v Speaker 1>to point fingers at people. What I love is a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Of people who are calling this page the poor man

0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:04.080
<v Speaker 2>celeb Spellcheck.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like they are clout.

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<v Speaker 2>Chasing a bit. I mean, I do, I do think

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<v Speaker 2>there is room for everyone to have their own platform

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<v Speaker 2>in their own say, but I just think it is

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<v Speaker 2>a complete copy of celebrit spell chech. Have you guys

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<v Speaker 2>noticed that, especially during this COVID period, there seems to

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<v Speaker 2>be so many pages that have popped up that are

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<v Speaker 2>just slagging off influences. I mean, there's so many Sarah's

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<v Speaker 2>Day hate pages going on. There's this new page seleb

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<v Speaker 2>spell check. It seems to be the in thing to

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<v Speaker 2>have an anonymous page. Well, I think it's because the

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<v Speaker 2>pandemic has completely changed celebrity gossip. In twenty twenty, celebrity

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<v Speaker 2>events were canceled, meaning that there was no red carpet

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<v Speaker 2>interviews or after parties or paparazzi shots. So I suppose

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<v Speaker 2>we have then jumped online to see what celebrities are doing,

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<v Speaker 2>and in turn will now become more interested in influences. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and like using celebrities as an example, because they don't

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<v Speaker 2>attend all those events anymore. They've literally had to turn

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<v Speaker 2>to social media to actually get themselves out there.

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<v Speaker 1>And then that's kind of really.

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<v Speaker 2>Introduced us to connecting with influencers and celebrities in that way,

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<v Speaker 2>and it feels.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we're we really do know them.

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<v Speaker 2>But I actually don't think that's the case at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I think what's happened is during the pandemic, people have

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<v Speaker 2>got sick of influencers behavior and they've seen them going

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<v Speaker 2>on their holidays and flouting the rules.

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<v Speaker 1>And they've gone, you know, stuff this.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be able to relate to content, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's why so many people are following these pages. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think there's a lot of hate following going on.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that people actually enjoy following these people, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's the case of the fact that with

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<v Speaker 2>the pandemic, we're not really having real life socialization, so

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<v Speaker 2>our desire to actually connect and observe with other humans

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<v Speaker 2>is growing. So the only way we can do this

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<v Speaker 2>is actually looking at influencers or celebrities social media content.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's kind of fun for us all bandy together

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<v Speaker 2>and like observe someone and comment on what they're doing,

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<v Speaker 2>because we can't do that in public. Like I'm someone

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<v Speaker 2>who loves people watching, but you know, if you're in

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<v Speaker 2>America or you were in Melbourne during the lockdown, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't do that anymore. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I tend to agree with both of you.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a bit from Colin a a bit

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<v Speaker 2>from columb I think there is a real feeling of

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<v Speaker 2>influencer fatigue at the moment and a lot of resentment

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<v Speaker 2>towards them. I mean, you just have to look at

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<v Speaker 2>the pandemic and see so many people losing their jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet these people are still posting about their lavish lifestyles

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<v Speaker 2>and the fact that they're earning more money during this

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<v Speaker 2>time I think would be pissing a lot of people off. Yeah. Absolutely, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>do you guys think it's fair for these anonymous pages

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<v Speaker 2>to solicit and share unverified gossip? I really think it

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<v Speaker 2>depends on the level of gossip being shared. For instance,

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<v Speaker 2>if it is gossip that is going to destroy someone's

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<v Speaker 2>reputation and is completely defamatory, I don't think it is fair. However,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that a lot of the things celeb Spelcheck

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<v Speaker 2>shared were very lighthearted. I mean, sharing that someone farted

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<v Speaker 2>at a photo shoot I think is completely harmless and

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<v Speaker 2>just a bit of fun. Yet sharing that someone may

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<v Speaker 2>be addicted to coke is going a little bit far

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<v Speaker 2>in my book. The thing is that I almost think

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<v Speaker 2>it's quite ballsy of celeb Spelcheck to do this, because

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<v Speaker 2>we spoke last week about how there was an episode

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<v Speaker 2>on Shame that's talking about it how a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>influences in Melbourne are wanting to seek out who is

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<v Speaker 2>the person behind the account. It's almost like waving a

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<v Speaker 2>red flag in the influencer's face, because think about it,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're an influencer now and you know that your

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<v Speaker 2>shitty behavior is probably going to come out soon or

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<v Speaker 2>something embarrassing is going to come out because they're just

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<v Speaker 2>sharing everything. Yeah, it was really a bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>fuck you about that in Yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone was living for it. I feel it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel it was a very defiant move and

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<v Speaker 2>a move to say I'm not going to change what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing. I'm going to continue and go even harder

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<v Speaker 2>if anything. Yeah, well, she really has stepped it up,

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<v Speaker 2>and I do hope for her own sake that she

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<v Speaker 2>is stepping it up, like from a legal perspective as well,

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<v Speaker 2>and is going to cover her back. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>she should take some advice from du Noire because they

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<v Speaker 2>actually have put a process in place to protect herself

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<v Speaker 2>against defamation laws. And obviously the laws are different in America.

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<v Speaker 2>But what she's done is she's put a little disclaimer

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<v Speaker 2>in her Instagram bio that reads statements made on the

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<v Speaker 2>account have not been independently confirmed. She's also got like

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<v Speaker 2>a frequently asked section and it says what you want

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<v Speaker 2>or don't believe any of what is posted. This was

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<v Speaker 2>started for fun. Also, this is my private account, so

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<v Speaker 2>I can reveal or not reveal whatever the fuck I want.

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<v Speaker 2>There's also more information on the website talking about how

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<v Speaker 2>this is rumor and conjecture are not facts. So I

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<v Speaker 2>do think that as more interest grows and celebs spell

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<v Speaker 2>check and also in Aussie influencer opinions, that they do

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<v Speaker 2>need to be thinking about these things. Because what's quite

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<v Speaker 2>scary is the defamation laws are actually going through a

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<v Speaker 2>reform at the moment. So in August twenty twenty, that

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<v Speaker 2>was the first stage of these defamation reforms. And what's

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<v Speaker 2>crazy is the defamation law hadn't had any changes made

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<v Speaker 2>to it since two.

0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Thousand and five.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you think back to two thousand and five,

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<v Speaker 2>Facebook had only been around for one year, Twitter wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>even around, and the iPhone came in in two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and seven, so obviously the way that we communicate has

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<v Speaker 2>completely changed.

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<v Speaker 1>And the laws aren't really reflective of this.

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<v Speaker 2>So the stage two reforms that are meant they were

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<v Speaker 2>actually meant to have come in well, sorry, we were met.

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<v Speaker 2>Found out more information about those laws in December twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 2>but we haven't yet. But the Stage two specifically looks

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<v Speaker 2>at online defamation. So I feel like it's really an

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<v Speaker 2>evolving space and at the moment I feel like there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of confusion around what is actually allowed. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>your friends the football will be there. Oh friend football friend,

0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:25.680
<v Speaker 2>best friends forever and ever. Let's get into the influencer

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<v Speaker 2>wrap now. Fashion designer Camilla Franks is in hot water

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<v Speaker 2>after she incorporated the Union Jack into her latest collection

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<v Speaker 2>and many have said it actually glamorizes colonialism. I've got

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<v Speaker 2>to say, when I saw the photos, I thought what

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<v Speaker 2>is going on? Yeah, as soon as I saw the photos,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, this is going to be a complete

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<v Speaker 2>shit storm. So the line is actually called The Mad

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<v Speaker 2>Manner and it was launched last Monday with many of

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<v Speaker 2>Australia's biggest influencers attending the launch party. So Tammy Hembro

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<v Speaker 2>was there, Ruby Tuesday, Matthew's Teague and Philippa as well

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<v Speaker 2>as Nicki and Lucy from The Wild Ones and to

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<v Speaker 2>set the scene, there were a lot of Union Jack

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<v Speaker 2>bunting lining the walls. There was British telephone boxes and

0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:08.320
<v Speaker 2>literally blue, red and white flowers everywhere. Well like it

0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:12.000
<v Speaker 2>was spice culbs vibes. You know when Jerry wore that dress,

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<v Speaker 2>the Union Day dress.

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<v Speaker 1>It did remind me of that.

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<v Speaker 2>But then obviously alarm bells are ringing the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>we've just had this amazing discussion about changing the day

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<v Speaker 2>and about colonialism, and then to kind of see this

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<v Speaker 2>reflected it just seemed extremely tone deaf. Yeah. Well, this

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<v Speaker 2>actually came two days after Australia's National Sorry Day, and

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<v Speaker 2>as you touched on, less than a month after the

0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:35.040
<v Speaker 2>Invasion Day discussions that were going on, and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of influencers who attended the event came under fire. So

0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:40.800
<v Speaker 2>Nicki and Lucy posted a photo of themselves in the

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<v Speaker 2>outfits and wrote back to our roots. Now that post

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<v Speaker 2>has since been deleted. Ruby Tuesday Matthews has also since

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<v Speaker 2>deleted a post of herself at the party. So it

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<v Speaker 2>seems like the influencers are trying to distance themselves from

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<v Speaker 2>this event. I would really like to know what the

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<v Speaker 2>transaction between the influencers and Camilla the brand were for

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<v Speaker 2>to get them to go to this event, because if

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<v Speaker 2>there was money exchanging hands, I would think that it's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty poor that they actually did delete the photos. However,

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<v Speaker 2>if it was like just an invite.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, fair enough to be honest.

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<v Speaker 2>From working in PR, I definitely think these influences were

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<v Speaker 2>paid to attend the event. This even happens in Adelaide

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<v Speaker 2>of always. Do you know what it made me think

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<v Speaker 2>when I saw the photo of them all together. Was

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<v Speaker 2>there a moment in time where one of them thought, hmm,

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<v Speaker 2>should we all be dressed like this? You know, we

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<v Speaker 2>were sitting around in union jack colonial clothing.

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<v Speaker 1>There's something wrong with this. It kind of reminds me.

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<v Speaker 2>A bit of the Emperor's New clothes, the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>everyone kind of just went.

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<v Speaker 1>Along with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what about Nicky and Lucy's caption on their post?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they spoke about going back to our roots.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I believe they were apparently referring to the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that they've worked with Camilla before.

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<v Speaker 1>However, but couldn't you just put two and two together.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what they were thinking, and the backlash

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<v Speaker 2>has been pretty fierce. Former Bachelor contestant and Indigenous woman

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<v Speaker 2>Brooke Blurton commented, is this a joke, while others blasted

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<v Speaker 2>the collect and its launch, saying it was cringeworthy, tone deaf,

0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:05.760
<v Speaker 2>and completely disrespectful. I've got to agree with Brook though.

0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:07.600
<v Speaker 2>When I saw the photos, I thought, is this a

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<v Speaker 2>joke too? It seemed unbelievable that people would not realize

0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:13.919
<v Speaker 2>how offensive that was in this time. Yeah, and have

0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:16.520
<v Speaker 2>you guys seen the statement that Camilla Frank put out

0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:19.360
<v Speaker 2>on Thursday night? Because this makes it even worse. I did.

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<v Speaker 2>She started off by saying dearest tribe. Now, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if she quite understands that that is a very

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<v Speaker 2>cult racially sensitive word. I would not be starting off

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<v Speaker 2>somewhat of a supposed apology with that, But in saying

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<v Speaker 2>that it really wasn't an apology, she just defended herself.

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<v Speaker 2>She said the collection was inspired by her travels in

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<v Speaker 2>the UK and that she was sad and to see

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<v Speaker 2>that a small group of online voices chose to post

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<v Speaker 2>negative comments about the event. She then explained that every

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<v Speaker 2>single one of her collections has been born out of

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<v Speaker 2>travel experiences and said it paid homage to the punk

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<v Speaker 2>rock movement.

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<v Speaker 1>Now this is where it gets worse.

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<v Speaker 2>She said that it's pays homage to Vivian Westwood, the

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<v Speaker 2>sex Pistols, Prince and a swag of other wildly eccentric

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<v Speaker 2>characters from the UK. Now, I'm sorry, but princes from America.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, it just keeps getting worse.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've got to say I'm gonna put it out there.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never liked Camilla clothes. I think they're a complete

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<v Speaker 2>ripoff and they're ugly, so you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, don't hold back there.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing that didn't sit well with me is the

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<v Speaker 2>pairing of very rich and powerful people with the Union

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<v Speaker 2>Jack flag.

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<v Speaker 1>It just made me feel a bit sick.

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<v Speaker 2>And also there were no people of color even invited

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<v Speaker 2>to the event, which also added to the insult. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I will be very interested to see how this collection sells.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's going to set out. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be one collection that stays on the

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<v Speaker 2>all right. I've got to say though, she has actually

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<v Speaker 2>created some attention for itself, even in all publicity.

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<v Speaker 1>Publicity.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, moving on, and this one made me really sad.

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<v Speaker 2>Lauras Henshaw has had to cancel her wedding for the

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<v Speaker 2>third time, and this was due to last week's lockdown

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<v Speaker 2>in Melbourne, and I felt even sad when she shared

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<v Speaker 2>a picture of her golden retriever Bill and he was

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<v Speaker 2>wearing the cutest little tuxedo, and she wrote, we couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>bring ourselves to tell him he has to wait quite

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<v Speaker 2>a bit longer now to wear his outfloor outfit.

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<v Speaker 1>But how adorable.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know? What I love about Laura Henshaw is

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<v Speaker 2>that she did a post saying how sorry she felt

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<v Speaker 2>for everyone when the lockdown was announced, and she was

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<v Speaker 2>in tears, and she was so selfless that she didn't

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<v Speaker 2>even touch on the fact that her wedding had been canceled.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that just says so much about her.

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<v Speaker 2>She just seems to genuinely care about other people, even

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<v Speaker 2>over her own feelings. Oh, she seems like such a

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful person. She did speak a little bit about her

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<v Speaker 2>on the Kick podcast this week, and she said that

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people had messaged her saying that she'd

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<v Speaker 2>almost jinxed herself because she had spoken a lot about oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if my wedding gets canceled, blah blah blah,

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<v Speaker 2>because it has been the third time. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>felt very sorry for her.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's move on to one of the other Kick girls.

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<v Speaker 2>Steph Claire Smith and on her Instagram story on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 2>Steph admitted one of her biggest pregnancy cravings and it

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<v Speaker 2>was McDonald's.

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<v Speaker 1>I love this.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like when I'm pregnant, I'm going to use

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<v Speaker 2>this as an excuse just to eat all the crap

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<v Speaker 2>that I want to, and I feel like Mcdonald's'll be

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<v Speaker 2>one of the first places I go to. Well, she

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<v Speaker 2>said she's eaten more McDonald's during her pregnancy than she

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<v Speaker 2>has in the last five years. And I actually believe

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<v Speaker 2>her because you don't get abs like hers eating McDonald's. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I really Well, the thing is, though, I saw a

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<v Speaker 2>picture of her and she still has abs like they're

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<v Speaker 2>at the top. I think she is one of those

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<v Speaker 2>genetically blessed people who has a lower body fat percentage

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<v Speaker 2>in that area. Yeah, well that's what I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>tell myself, especially next time I'm eating McDonald's. I could

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<v Speaker 2>get around that diet though, if it was a kick

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<v Speaker 2>girl diet, just get ads by eating McDonald's sake.

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<v Speaker 1>Fat her.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we teased about it at the start of the

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<v Speaker 2>episode and will end the episode with this little juicy

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<v Speaker 2>piece of gossip. So Sophie, you actually spotted that Shane

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<v Speaker 2>Grimmin had her silk swimwear photo shoot at the same

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<v Speaker 2>place Madison Wooley shot her fashion range. Yeah, I is

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<v Speaker 2>so funny because it was a Friday night, I was

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be rushing to your house. I threw myself

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<v Speaker 2>under the shower and I don't know if anyone else

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<v Speaker 2>does this. I was on my phone in the shower,

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<v Speaker 2>just flicking through Insta stories and it popped up and

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<v Speaker 2>it was Shane Grimman's ass walking up this staircase and

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I've seen that staircase before. So I frantically

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<v Speaker 2>compared the photos and I was like, oh, this is

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<v Speaker 2>too good. I got a frantic text from Sophie. She's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have time, but I need you to meme this.

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<v Speaker 2>I needed to put this on her Instagram now and it.

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<v Speaker 1>Went off well.

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<v Speaker 2>For those who aren't piecing this story together, Jonathan Sower

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<v Speaker 2>used to date Shiny Grimman and he now dates Madison Woolies,

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<v Speaker 2>So it seems like, as well as the same taste

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<v Speaker 2>in men, these girls have the same taste in staircase

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<v Speaker 2>and bumpshots as well. So do you think Shiny saw

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<v Speaker 2>Madison Woolies and copied or well. One of the members

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<v Speaker 2>in our community they said that this place is actually

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<v Speaker 2>quite well known for brand shoots. So I had a

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<v Speaker 2>look on their Instagram page and they've got over seven

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<v Speaker 2>thousand followers, but the room that they've been taking the

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<v Speaker 2>photos in is actually relatively new, so it is going

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<v Speaker 2>to just look so hilarious that they've both had these

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<v Speaker 2>huge campaigns shot there. If anything, I would think that

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<v Speaker 2>Shani was unaware that that's where Madison shot it because

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<v Speaker 2>she would not want attention around that because it just

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<v Speaker 2>brings up Jonathan again. Well, I think that's all we

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