1 00:00:10,204 --> 00:00:13,484 Speaker 1: My Heart podcasts, hear more Gold one on one point 2 00:00:13,524 --> 00:00:15,204 Speaker 1: seven podcasts. 3 00:00:14,604 --> 00:00:18,604 Speaker 2: Playlists and listen live on the free iHeart apps, and 4 00:00:18,724 --> 00:00:20,323 Speaker 2: Amanda jam Nation. 5 00:00:20,844 --> 00:00:22,524 Speaker 1: Our next guess is a friend of the show as 6 00:00:22,724 --> 00:00:25,444 Speaker 1: iconic as the Harbor Bridge. I'm talking, of course, of 7 00:00:25,484 --> 00:00:27,964 Speaker 1: the wonderful Paul Kelly. We could not wrap up our 8 00:00:28,004 --> 00:00:31,404 Speaker 1: time as a breakfast show on this important day without him. 9 00:00:31,484 --> 00:00:36,764 Speaker 3: Paul, Hello, Amanda, Hi Jones, It's great to have you here. Congratulations, 10 00:00:36,804 --> 00:00:37,163 Speaker 3: Thank you. 11 00:00:37,284 --> 00:00:39,644 Speaker 4: Twenty years of a breakfast show and I said we'd 12 00:00:39,684 --> 00:00:40,284 Speaker 4: never last. 13 00:00:40,564 --> 00:00:42,364 Speaker 5: Yeah, you do you Amanda. 14 00:00:42,564 --> 00:00:44,364 Speaker 2: Years ago, when I got her to come and work 15 00:00:44,404 --> 00:00:47,364 Speaker 2: for me, I said to her, just give me. 16 00:00:47,644 --> 00:00:49,324 Speaker 5: I'm going to get the sack from these guys if 17 00:00:49,364 --> 00:00:50,164 Speaker 5: you come and do the show. 18 00:00:50,244 --> 00:00:52,684 Speaker 4: Just two years you wanted to pay off your daughter's brace. 19 00:00:52,724 --> 00:00:54,604 Speaker 2: My daughter, I had to and she she needed a 20 00:00:54,724 --> 00:00:56,644 Speaker 2: teeth fix, and you just saw her outside before. She's 21 00:00:56,684 --> 00:01:00,164 Speaker 2: beautiful now, beautiful twenty eight year old woman. But back 22 00:01:00,164 --> 00:01:02,244 Speaker 2: then I needed to get a choppers fixed. 23 00:01:02,324 --> 00:01:05,924 Speaker 1: And now that sounds like the time Paul Kelly song, 24 00:01:07,003 --> 00:01:08,444 Speaker 1: I needed to get a choppers fix. 25 00:01:09,364 --> 00:01:12,964 Speaker 2: She's getting married next year, right, so at the zoo, 26 00:01:13,004 --> 00:01:14,124 Speaker 2: which isn't cheap as you know. 27 00:01:14,324 --> 00:01:15,644 Speaker 5: So Amanda's kept me. 28 00:01:15,764 --> 00:01:18,364 Speaker 4: She's got good choppers though embraces. 29 00:01:17,724 --> 00:01:19,643 Speaker 2: And where these choppers are going to be gleaming, they'll 30 00:01:19,644 --> 00:01:21,084 Speaker 2: be gleaming and they and they look good. 31 00:01:21,124 --> 00:01:23,563 Speaker 4: So let's talk about you instead of us. 32 00:01:23,604 --> 00:01:25,124 Speaker 5: You know, now this is all about us. 33 00:01:25,364 --> 00:01:28,324 Speaker 4: I paused it so long for the ride today you've got. 34 00:01:28,604 --> 00:01:30,203 Speaker 1: I know you're going to be performing at the Red 35 00:01:30,203 --> 00:01:32,563 Speaker 1: Hot Summer Festival. You've got a whole lot of stuff 36 00:01:32,604 --> 00:01:36,444 Speaker 1: going on. Your album seventy is out now, and there's 37 00:01:36,484 --> 00:01:38,524 Speaker 1: a very special sequel on seventy. 38 00:01:38,644 --> 00:01:39,444 Speaker 4: Tell us about that. 39 00:01:40,324 --> 00:01:42,484 Speaker 3: Oh yes, it's a sequel to how to Make Gravy, 40 00:01:42,524 --> 00:01:45,404 Speaker 3: Because for many years I thought it was it would 41 00:01:45,484 --> 00:01:48,204 Speaker 3: be a good idea to tell a bit more of 42 00:01:48,284 --> 00:01:51,284 Speaker 3: Rita's story because the original song Gravy she just gets 43 00:01:51,364 --> 00:01:53,524 Speaker 3: mentioned in passing and I always thought I'm going to 44 00:01:53,604 --> 00:01:55,484 Speaker 3: do a song with reader as there. 45 00:01:55,724 --> 00:01:58,604 Speaker 5: Yeah, you've never done time, have you. We've talked about 46 00:01:58,604 --> 00:01:59,044 Speaker 5: this before. 47 00:01:59,084 --> 00:02:01,164 Speaker 2: I have not, but I know a lot of prisoners 48 00:02:01,204 --> 00:02:03,484 Speaker 2: don't judge me about this, but I've had a few 49 00:02:03,604 --> 00:02:05,684 Speaker 2: mates have run foul of the law, and all of 50 00:02:05,724 --> 00:02:08,204 Speaker 2: them have said about that song, the special meaning that 51 00:02:08,284 --> 00:02:11,164 Speaker 2: it has uh and the way that you've managed to 52 00:02:11,404 --> 00:02:13,963 Speaker 2: get the pathos of what it's like to be inside, 53 00:02:14,404 --> 00:02:17,164 Speaker 2: you know, all those little things that you miss when 54 00:02:17,163 --> 00:02:17,844 Speaker 2: you're on the outside. 55 00:02:17,884 --> 00:02:19,603 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a that's a you know, when I wrote 56 00:02:19,603 --> 00:02:23,164 Speaker 3: the song, was trying to get the feeling of Christmas 57 00:02:23,163 --> 00:02:25,763 Speaker 3: across and I sort of stumbled on the best way 58 00:02:25,803 --> 00:02:27,164 Speaker 3: to do that is to write it from the point 59 00:02:27,204 --> 00:02:29,004 Speaker 3: of view of someone who can't be there for Christmas. 60 00:02:29,004 --> 00:02:32,004 Speaker 6: So that's that's how Joe ended up in jail. 61 00:02:32,084 --> 00:02:33,564 Speaker 4: And you performed that in a jail. 62 00:02:36,124 --> 00:02:40,124 Speaker 3: Now I performed it in youth correctional facilities, so not 63 00:02:40,204 --> 00:02:41,204 Speaker 3: an adult jail. 64 00:02:41,284 --> 00:02:43,204 Speaker 5: No, no, Well that could be a good thing. What 65 00:02:43,204 --> 00:02:44,804 Speaker 5: do you say, Paul runs foul the law? 66 00:02:44,923 --> 00:02:46,363 Speaker 4: All should do a jail tour. 67 00:02:46,844 --> 00:02:48,363 Speaker 5: You should wait for Johnny Cash. 68 00:02:48,564 --> 00:02:50,163 Speaker 6: Well, they used to do them. We used to play 69 00:02:50,163 --> 00:02:51,764 Speaker 6: in jails a lot more in the late eighties. 70 00:02:51,764 --> 00:02:54,484 Speaker 3: We played, We played Long Bay and silver Water and 71 00:02:54,803 --> 00:02:56,524 Speaker 3: I guess there was funding around for that kind of 72 00:02:56,524 --> 00:02:58,804 Speaker 3: thing then. But I haven't done hasn't done a jail 73 00:02:58,844 --> 00:02:59,524 Speaker 3: for quite a while. 74 00:02:59,884 --> 00:03:02,804 Speaker 2: Well, Jimmy Barnes are saying they played Coach, played a 75 00:03:02,844 --> 00:03:05,323 Speaker 2: few jail shows and they were worried about Phil Small 76 00:03:05,324 --> 00:03:07,604 Speaker 2: because a lot of the prisoners were eyeing up Phil Small. 77 00:03:07,444 --> 00:03:08,764 Speaker 5: Because it was great the base. 78 00:03:08,923 --> 00:03:13,724 Speaker 3: It was quite pretty pretty except. 79 00:03:15,004 --> 00:03:16,243 Speaker 4: They throw him in as the burly. 80 00:03:16,363 --> 00:03:17,923 Speaker 5: All of a sudden, the bass player was getting all 81 00:03:17,923 --> 00:03:18,364 Speaker 5: the attention. 82 00:03:18,444 --> 00:03:23,084 Speaker 2: It's not fair, it's not a mat But I do 83 00:03:23,163 --> 00:03:26,444 Speaker 2: wonder do you think that if Joe was not a recivetus, 84 00:03:26,644 --> 00:03:28,604 Speaker 2: he wouldn't have been in jail. Still he because he 85 00:03:28,603 --> 00:03:30,203 Speaker 2: got out of He got out of jail, but he 86 00:03:30,284 --> 00:03:31,084 Speaker 2: went back in again. 87 00:03:31,124 --> 00:03:33,603 Speaker 5: That was the that was the problem. 88 00:03:33,923 --> 00:03:35,044 Speaker 6: No, he didn't go back in again. 89 00:03:35,084 --> 00:03:37,404 Speaker 3: He got out of jail and then he but then 90 00:03:37,484 --> 00:03:40,164 Speaker 3: he well you know the song, but he doesn't go 91 00:03:40,244 --> 00:03:40,884 Speaker 3: back to Charlie. 92 00:03:41,124 --> 00:03:43,164 Speaker 6: He goes straight to straight to his grave. 93 00:03:43,724 --> 00:03:47,004 Speaker 5: The implications of the jail is a mental jail. That's 94 00:03:47,004 --> 00:03:51,044 Speaker 5: what I got from the song. Yeah, is this just 95 00:03:51,084 --> 00:04:02,403 Speaker 5: drned on you? Because hey, and we'll play it. 96 00:04:05,484 --> 00:04:16,763 Speaker 7: Okay. 97 00:04:06,004 --> 00:04:16,243 Speaker 2: So the. 98 00:04:20,884 --> 00:04:24,204 Speaker 5: Way so he's this is after he's dead, isn't it. 99 00:04:24,324 --> 00:04:26,564 Speaker 3: Well, he's singing, he's singing from the graves. It's like 100 00:04:26,684 --> 00:04:29,044 Speaker 3: it's like a ghost story someone from the grave, like 101 00:04:29,084 --> 00:04:29,884 Speaker 3: an old folk song. 102 00:04:30,084 --> 00:04:30,604 Speaker 6: That's great. 103 00:04:31,124 --> 00:04:34,004 Speaker 1: The characters have become iconic, but so is the recipe. 104 00:04:34,444 --> 00:04:37,004 Speaker 1: Do you love that that recipe is being made in 105 00:04:37,004 --> 00:04:39,404 Speaker 1: Australian houses at Christmas? 106 00:04:39,484 --> 00:04:41,244 Speaker 3: I think it's pretty pretty funny. And I've had some 107 00:04:41,244 --> 00:04:43,964 Speaker 3: grief from foodies over the years about the tomato sauce. 108 00:04:44,884 --> 00:04:46,324 Speaker 5: Yeah, they wouldn't. 109 00:04:46,844 --> 00:04:48,204 Speaker 6: You can't call it duke any. 110 00:04:50,004 --> 00:04:51,684 Speaker 5: Tomatoes. I did. I have tried it. 111 00:04:51,724 --> 00:04:54,724 Speaker 2: I've made your traditional gravy recipe and I did sneer 112 00:04:54,724 --> 00:04:56,764 Speaker 2: at the tomato sauce, but I did. 113 00:04:56,884 --> 00:04:59,404 Speaker 5: It does add a little bit of tang, a little 114 00:04:59,404 --> 00:05:00,444 Speaker 5: bit of sweetness. 115 00:05:00,684 --> 00:05:03,684 Speaker 1: To that, and you should not have to apologize much. 116 00:05:04,084 --> 00:05:08,804 Speaker 1: Family recipe. That's the point of a loved family exactly. 117 00:05:09,004 --> 00:05:09,364 Speaker 5: It works. 118 00:05:09,444 --> 00:05:11,644 Speaker 2: It works for all of us now, paul I just 119 00:05:11,924 --> 00:05:14,844 Speaker 2: you're here, and it would be this is our last 120 00:05:14,884 --> 00:05:17,243 Speaker 2: show in breakfast Radio before we go to the fruited 121 00:05:17,284 --> 00:05:19,484 Speaker 2: plains of drive time Radio. 122 00:05:19,284 --> 00:05:22,444 Speaker 5: And sleep in, sleep In, which I'm looking forward to. 123 00:05:23,684 --> 00:05:24,844 Speaker 5: I don't think it'll be out of line. 124 00:05:24,884 --> 00:05:28,604 Speaker 2: If we could ask you to play how to Make Gravy? 125 00:05:29,084 --> 00:05:30,604 Speaker 5: Is that possible? I know she brought a guitar. 126 00:05:31,284 --> 00:05:33,124 Speaker 2: Final It's like when I was a kid and you 127 00:05:33,164 --> 00:05:35,044 Speaker 2: go around to someone's house with a beach towel and 128 00:05:35,084 --> 00:05:35,724 Speaker 2: they had a pool. 129 00:05:36,404 --> 00:05:39,164 Speaker 5: The presumptions there, you're going for a swim? Are we 130 00:05:39,204 --> 00:05:40,003 Speaker 5: getting in the pool? 131 00:05:40,284 --> 00:05:42,444 Speaker 6: Now I've come, I've come. I've come to seeing gravy. 132 00:05:44,244 --> 00:05:45,844 Speaker 5: Well, what do you need? What can a man to 133 00:05:45,924 --> 00:05:47,004 Speaker 5: do for you? Before? 134 00:05:47,084 --> 00:05:49,404 Speaker 4: Do you we need to have a swim before he's 135 00:05:49,444 --> 00:05:49,964 Speaker 4: got the guitar. 136 00:05:50,804 --> 00:05:52,164 Speaker 6: I've got the guitar's right here. 137 00:05:52,444 --> 00:05:52,684 Speaker 5: Okay. 138 00:05:52,924 --> 00:05:54,844 Speaker 2: Well, what we'll do is we'll go to the news 139 00:05:54,884 --> 00:05:57,884 Speaker 2: and stuff, and then after the news and stuff, Paul 140 00:05:57,964 --> 00:05:59,284 Speaker 2: Kelly with how to make gravy