Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
Speaker 1: Amy Torber and coming up on today's show, Bachelor Golden
Speaker 1: couple Georgia Love and Lee Elliot confirm their marriage is over.
Speaker 1: Tommy Fury lands his own documentary, Georgie Stephenson is forced
Speaker 1: to defend her conception Timeline, and Courtney Kardashian hits back
Speaker 1: at rumors she's a grandma but first og influencer Gretti
Speaker 1: Rose has thrown serious shade at her former bestie Ashy
Speaker 1: Binds and reignited interest in their historic friendship breakdown. Now Sophie,
Speaker 1: every week there seems to be an old friend taking
Speaker 1: Amy Ashy. Yeah, hasn't been a great start to the
Speaker 1: year for her. She had that very public falling out
Speaker 1: with her former podcast host Kiara Durro and following that
Speaker 1: bust up, Kiara caught up for drinks with some of
Speaker 1: Ashey's former friends, which included Sammy Leo, Gretti Rose, and
Speaker 1: nat Roland to all swap stories about their experience with Ashy,
Speaker 1: and they of course splashed that catch up all over
Speaker 1: social media to get their followers talking. Well, there have
Speaker 1: been rumors of a rift between Ashy and Gretty since
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: They used to be permanent fixtures on each other's social channels.
Speaker 1: They even appeared in best friend tag videos on YouTube,
Speaker 1: and they tried to dress up like twins at one
Speaker 1: point because everyone pointed out that they looked very similar.
Speaker 1: You know, the friendship's gone to the next level when
Speaker 1: you're dressing the same. They also seem to support each
Speaker 1: other a lot in business, so they seem to collaborate
Speaker 1: on their clothing brands together. But then suddenly in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two, things went really quiet between them and they
Speaker 1: stopped appearing in each other's content, and then the dirty
Speaker 1: unfollow happened, which is always a sign that something's gone
Speaker 1: on behind the scenes. Yeah, the unfollow is a big thing,
Speaker 1: especially in the social media world. That is friendship over Well.
Speaker 1: It's almost like putting out a pr statement saying, look,
Speaker 1: I want everyone to know that we're not friends.
Speaker 2: Yeah, doing this very publicly.
Speaker 1: Solf launching the friendship breakdown. Yeah, and this was really
Speaker 1: huge because Gretty and Ashy had been friends for well
Speaker 1: over seven years. They even lived together before Ashe got married,
Speaker 1: and Gretti had really built her following through Ashey's channels because,
Speaker 1: as I said, she was a permanent fixture on her
Speaker 1: YouTube channel. She was also a guest fitness instructor on
Speaker 1: Ashy's Booty Tour, so she really did grow her profile
Speaker 1: true befriending Ashi and no one really knows what caused
Speaker 1: this rift because both women haven't publicly spoken about it.
Speaker 1: I mean, there is a lot of speculation that the
Speaker 1: falling out was perhaps over business. It was around the
Speaker 1: same time that a riff started developing between Ashy and
Speaker 1: her other bestie, Sammy Leo, So they appeared to fall
Speaker 1: out over a business decision because Ashe's brand, Hideaway, released
Speaker 1: a lip balm which Sammy deemed to be very similar
Speaker 1: to her lip balm brand, which is called Breeze Balm.
Speaker 1: Doesn't that just sound like an influencer problem, like my
Speaker 1: lip balm is so similar to yours. Well, Sammy ended
Speaker 1: up sharing a meme which said you know you're winning
Speaker 1: when you're being copied, and that was after ash released
Speaker 1: her Hideaway lip bum. So it was all very controversial
Speaker 1: at the time. I think one of our most asked
Speaker 1: questions on Instagram is what happened between Ashy and Sammy Leo.
Speaker 1: Everyone wants us to do a deep dive. Maybe we'll
Speaker 1: have to do one. Well, we might have to get
Speaker 1: in contact with Samuy Leo and ash she'd actually find
Speaker 1: out what's gone down because it seems all very secretive. Well,
Speaker 1: it really seems that this catch up between all of
Speaker 1: Ashey's former friends has spurred the women on to take
Speaker 1: further potshots at Ashy. So on Sunday, Gretty took part
Speaker 1: in a viral TikTok trend which is all about confronting
Speaker 1: that one girl. So in the video, she mimed to
Speaker 1: Kendrick Lamar's disk track not Like Us, which is rumored
Speaker 1: to be written about Drake but.
Speaker 2: He keeps popping up on the show. And in the
Speaker 2: caption it.
Speaker 1: Said, I want to confront that one girl, but you
Speaker 1: know they will never admit they're wrong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that girl.
Speaker 1: It was very clear off the bat who Gretty was
Speaker 1: referring to. I mean she only has eleven thousand followers
Speaker 1: on TikTok. This video garnered over two hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: thousand views because everyone was sending it on. Her comment
Speaker 1: section lit up with people commenting that it must be
Speaker 1: Ashy and also her followers praising Gretty and the other
Speaker 1: women for taking a step away from Ashi. Gretty went
Speaker 1: as far as tagging Sammy Leo in the comment section
Speaker 1: just to make sure she didn't miss out on the drama,
Speaker 1: whilst Kiara Durrow, Ash's former podcast host commented with three
Speaker 1: clapping hands, what a burn. This also seemed to spur
Speaker 1: Kiara on to create her own video, so she also
Speaker 1: mimed to the disk track whilst drinking a glass of
Speaker 1: red wine and wrote the caption cheers to that. This
Speaker 1: actually led to one of Ashe's friends, Meg, hitting out
Speaker 1: in the comments section, so she wrote to Kiara, it's
Speaker 1: so gross to see a video designed to stir up hate.
Speaker 1: Social media has enough negativity, why add to it. If
Speaker 1: your content relies on toxic comments for engagement, maybe it's
Speaker 1: time for a new approach. Kiara replied, saying, feel free
Speaker 1: in a couple of years to reach back out when
Speaker 1: you're in the same boat.
Speaker 2: But I wish you the best.
Speaker 1: Now both women have turned off the comments on their videos.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming for legal reasons. I would actually pay so
Speaker 1: much money to be a fly on the wall a
Speaker 1: meeting between Ashy and her lawyer trying to explain this trend.
Speaker 1: I think the trend seemed to backfire a bit on
Speaker 1: Gretty and Kiara because there was a very mixed reaction.
Speaker 1: Some followers love to be in on the drama and
Speaker 1: the tea, and they were desperate for the women to
Speaker 1: go into more details about their bust up with Ashi,
Speaker 1: whilst a lot of members in our Facebook community seem
Speaker 1: to share the same sentiment that the women should move on.
Speaker 1: One listener wrote, there's nothing to talk about or any
Speaker 1: tea if they're not sharing more information. We've all seen
Speaker 1: Ashy's true colors. It's kind of boring now, whilst another said, sorry,
Speaker 1: but it's childish. They are grown women. What a waste
Speaker 1: of time and negative energy. I kind of get where
Speaker 1: they're coming from, because even though these women might be
Speaker 1: in the right sharing this type of content, it can
Speaker 1: get to the point where it seems as if maybe
Speaker 1: they're ganging up on her. Yeah, it seems like a
Speaker 1: bit of a pylon in this case. I do see
Speaker 1: Ashy as being the Goliath and the others as being
Speaker 1: the David in the situation, because I mean, ash is
Speaker 1: the one with the bigger profile, probably more my more
Speaker 1: power in that situation, So I feel like they think
Speaker 1: it's okay because they feel like they're coming against someone
Speaker 1: who's bigger than them. I find it interesting as well
Speaker 1: that the commentary is basically tell us what's happened, or
Speaker 1: we're not going to be interested in.
Speaker 2: Support your comments.
Speaker 1: Also think that there's a bit more sympathy going Ashy's
Speaker 1: way because she's had a really tough time with her
Speaker 1: health over the past year or so. She's been diagnosed
Speaker 1: with two brain aneurysms. She's had to go through two
Speaker 1: separate surgery, so I think people are just thinking, like,
Speaker 1: let's just move on and get over it. Well, we
Speaker 1: spoke last week about the Michaela Testa drama and how
Speaker 1: a lot of the back and forth between her and
Speaker 1: her former friend had.
Speaker 2: Just muddied the water.
Speaker 1: That's what I see with these kind of tiktoks, because
Speaker 1: you're not really making any claims against her. You're sort
Speaker 1: of just stirring the pot with a dog whistle. Isn't
Speaker 1: it the ashually to react to it? I mean, I
Speaker 1: enjoy the gossip and the tea, but I can see
Speaker 1: why other people are saying look, just move on.
Speaker 2: That's the moment I met my husband.
Speaker 1: After months of speculation, a bachelor Golden couple, Georgia Love
Speaker 1: and Lee Elliott, have confirmed their marriage is over. The couple,
Speaker 1: who were together for nine years, shared identical statements on Instagram,
Speaker 1: emphasizing there was no drama or bad blood between them now,
Speaker 1: So this news didn't come as a shop to the public. No,
Speaker 1: there have been persistent rumors for months now that their
Speaker 1: relationship was on the rocks, because Georgia and Lee hadn't
Speaker 1: been seen in public or posted together for over four
Speaker 1: months on socials. Another massive giveaway was that they had
Speaker 1: both stopped wearing their wedding bands, and they also didn't
Speaker 1: spend Christmas together now. Rumors really intensified in the new
Speaker 1: year when Georgia embarked on a solo trip to New
Speaker 1: York and she was inundated with fans asking her where
Speaker 1: her husband Lee was now At the time, She shut
Speaker 1: down the rumors, saying she was incredibly tired of the
Speaker 1: questions and that he's simply at home while she's there
Speaker 1: visiting a friend. She went as far as saying we
Speaker 1: didn't split. Actually, best to stop speculating, least of all
Speaker 1: on my own page. If I had anything to tell you,
Speaker 1: I would do so myself. Well, it's quite clear that
Speaker 1: they've been trialing a separation before making it official. And
Speaker 1: this is a massive decision for anybody, let alone when
Speaker 1: you've met on the Bachelor and everybody is so invested
Speaker 1: in your relationship. And we've got to remember they were
Speaker 1: going out for nine years, they've been married for four.
Speaker 2: This is a really sad story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be so tough navigating it all in
Speaker 1: the public eye, because once the genie is out of
Speaker 1: the bottle, it's very hard to put it back in.
Speaker 1: So ultimately, I think that they wanted to give their
Speaker 1: relationship the space and the time and to make sure
Speaker 1: maybe to see if spending time apart was the right
Speaker 1: decision for them. Well, on Friday night, they pulled the pin,
Speaker 1: as you said, and they announced their split with identical
Speaker 1: statements on their Instagram stories. So Georgia's statement read, after
Speaker 1: nine wonderful years together, including four as husband and wife,
Speaker 1: Lee and I have made the incredibly difficult decision to
Speaker 1: lovingly part ways. Our relationship has been so special and
Speaker 1: we will always cherish the memories, love and laughter we've
Speaker 1: shared There is no drama, no bad blood, just two
Speaker 1: people who have grown in different directions while still holding
Speaker 1: deep respect and care for each other. We remain friends
Speaker 1: and thank you for giving us privacy as we navigate
Speaker 1: the next stage. Although I knew this was coming, I
Speaker 1: couldn't help but feel so sad. They were one of
Speaker 1: the Bachelor's biggest success stories and they seemed like a
Speaker 1: really genuine couple. They seem to compliment each other really well,
Speaker 1: and for me, it feels like their wedding was only yesterday,
Speaker 1: because I remember they were supposed to have this European
Speaker 1: destination wedding but it got canceled due to COVID, so
Speaker 1: they had a beautiful wedding in Hobart, where Georgia used
Speaker 1: to work as a journal Well, their wedding anniversary is
Speaker 1: actually coming up, so it's on Wednesday. So I suspect
Speaker 1: this is why they've made this announcement, because yeah, there
Speaker 1: would have been a lot of speculation about, well, why
Speaker 1: haven't they posted something about their anniversary. Did find the
Speaker 1: wording of the statement very interesting. I mean, it's clear
Speaker 1: that they've spent a lot of time agonizing over getting
Speaker 1: the wording perfect and making sure, it's clear to the
Speaker 1: public that this is simply a case of them growing
Speaker 1: apart and there's you know, no other parties involved. But
Speaker 1: I thought it was weird how they said that they
Speaker 1: lovingly are partying ways, because if you end your relationship,
Speaker 1: it's generally because you've fallen out of love with someone.
Speaker 2: I feel like this. I feel like this. They were
Speaker 2: trying to put a bit too much mayo.
Speaker 1: I sell it to a lot of people to believe
Speaker 1: that maybe one of them wanted children and the other
Speaker 1: one didn't, and they might still have been in love.
Speaker 1: But some people just can't get past if one wants
Speaker 1: them and the other one doesn't.
Speaker 2: I mean, I take to speculate about it.
Speaker 1: I saw that commentary and it made me feel really
Speaker 1: uncomfortable because that might not be the case at all.
Speaker 1: But I think when a couple like that breaks up,
Speaker 1: and you know, they've made it clear that they're still
Speaker 1: very much friends, in love and respect each other, I
Speaker 1: think people do jump to that conclusion. For me, I
Speaker 1: thought it maybe came down to the fact that they
Speaker 1: do live very different lives in the sense of, you know,
Speaker 1: for Georgia, she works in breakfast radio and she's a
Speaker 1: news reader on there, she would be getting up so
Speaker 1: early in the morning. It's a very demanding job. I
Speaker 1: know when I worked in breakfast radio just for a
Speaker 1: few months, I was an awful person to be around
Speaker 1: because I was so sleep deprived. If you're getting up
Speaker 1: at three am every morning, how are you then having
Speaker 1: the quality time to spend with your partner. Well, it
Speaker 1: can put a lot of pressure on your relationship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because Lee, he runs a large scale plumbing company, so
Speaker 1: he's obviously very busy with his work as well, so
Speaker 1: maybe they have grown apart. I thought it was clever
Speaker 1: for them to say that there's no bad blood and
Speaker 1: no drama, because I think a lot of people would
Speaker 1: have then jumped to the next conclusion that maybe one
Speaker 1: of them cheated. I mean, they're both very good looking people.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's lots of offers in their DM. I
Speaker 1: think the reason why people are so upset about this,
Speaker 1: and why people like Lee and Georgia so much is
Speaker 1: despite meeting on a show like The Bachelor, they have
Speaker 1: a very down to earth vibe, and I think that
Speaker 1: people almost think it's kind of like their friends that
Speaker 1: have just had this shock breakup, Like there were the
Speaker 1: people that you would least expect to break up, and
Speaker 1: that's why it's been met with such sadness. I do
Speaker 1: believe that they will actually remain friends, though, because I
Speaker 1: remember Georgia seemed to be friends with a couple of
Speaker 1: the guys that she dated.
Speaker 2: Off The Bachelor.
Speaker 1: I know it's not quite the same as a marriage,
Speaker 1: but I feel like they've both got those personalities where
Speaker 1: they do want the best for one another. I think
Speaker 1: it's different once you've been married for nine years compared
Speaker 1: to going on a.
Speaker 2: Few dates on the back.
Speaker 1: I think things change once people then finally move on
Speaker 1: and find someone else.
Speaker 3: The secrets out there now.
Speaker 1: Molly May's ex fiance Tommy Fury, has revealed he's getting
Speaker 1: a documentary of his own. The boxer made the announcement
Speaker 1: on BBC's social channels, promising an insight into his life
Speaker 1: inside and outside the ring. So if this announcement comes
Speaker 1: just weeks after part one of Molly's documentary Behind it
Speaker 1: All dropped on Amazon.
Speaker 2: Prime, I am so excited.
Speaker 1: Evidently, it seems like I'm may be the only person
Speaker 1: who is excited about this announcement. After Tommy Fury's comment section,
Speaker 1: but the documentary is called Tommy The Good, The Bad,
Speaker 1: the Fury, which that makes me excited, and it is
Speaker 1: expected to drop in between part one and Part two
Speaker 1: of Molly's doco now. The series is being produced by
Speaker 1: the same production company which produced Tommy's brother Tyson Fury's
Speaker 1: recent show, which was called At Home with the Furies,
Speaker 1: And just like Molly, Tommy has had camera crews following
Speaker 1: him for months now now. The BBC have described the
Speaker 1: documentary as a candid access all areas series and in
Speaker 1: their press release, the BBC said, just a year ago,
Speaker 1: Tommy Fury seemed to have it all, victory over his
Speaker 1: biggest adversary, Jake paul A, love with Molly May and
Speaker 1: a beautiful baby daughter, Bambi. But in his last fight
Speaker 1: he damaged his hand and unable to train. His life
Speaker 1: spun out of control. Sounds very dramatic.
Speaker 2: It does sound dramatic.
Speaker 1: Why do I think that so much of this is
Speaker 1: just going to be him in the ring and it's
Speaker 1: going to be boring though they have been teasing that
Speaker 1: it's going to concentrate also on his personal life. But
Speaker 1: I think that they are going to want to make
Speaker 1: this a documentary, not just for women, but also for
Speaker 1: men who will find the fighting side of it interesting.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of pressure on the success of this
Speaker 1: documentary because Molly's has just been such a knockout of
Speaker 1: a prime Yeah, but Molly also received some criticism for
Speaker 1: its sort of being too overly produced, not serious enough. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it rated so well.
Speaker 2: Interesting. It's on the BBC. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, Tommy actually made the announcement on BBC's Socials. It
Speaker 1: looked like he had just filmed sort of a piece
Speaker 1: to camera.
Speaker 2: Here's what he said about it.
Speaker 3: The secrets out there now. Me and the BBC have
Speaker 3: been working closely on something very special. The cameras have
Speaker 3: been following me for a few months now, inside the Ring,
Speaker 3: outside the Ring, all accesses of my life, and I
Speaker 3: can't wait for you all to see. It's coming later
Speaker 3: on in the year. It's going to be on BBC
Speaker 3: Three and BBCi Player. Take easy, guys and keep them
Speaker 3: as Field.
Speaker 1: I had to watch it a few times because it
Speaker 1: almost looked like AI. Yeah, there was something that wasn't
Speaker 1: quite right about it. He almost looked too filtered or something.
Speaker 1: Maybe he'd accidentally put a filter on who knows now.
Speaker 1: Tommy followed up saying a lot of people see me
Speaker 1: in the ring, they see me on social media, but
Speaker 1: they don't see me the person behind all of that.
Speaker 1: I'm excited for everyone to finally be able to see
Speaker 1: what goes on behind the scenes, how the big fights
Speaker 1: are made, all the ups and downs, as well as
Speaker 1: a glimpse into my life. It's pretty clear that Molly
Speaker 1: won't feature in this because Tommy has not featured in
Speaker 1: Molly's Amazon Prime series at all. I'm assuming as well
Speaker 1: that because Molly has his documentary with Amazon, she can't
Speaker 1: just be popping up on the BBC. Yeah. I don't
Speaker 1: think we're going to be seeing her in it at all,
Speaker 1: and it does make.
Speaker 2: Sense, particularly if they have separate deals.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's contracts in place that they have to
Speaker 1: align with that particular streaming service. I wantn't know if
Speaker 1: it was filmed at the exact same time as Part one,
Speaker 1: and will this also be coming out as a Part
Speaker 1: one Part two. Yeah. Well, it is safe to say
Speaker 1: that not everyone is excited about this documentary. The comment
Speaker 1: section under this BBC post were absolutely brutal. One user
Speaker 1: road I'll be busy watching Paint Dry Sorry, which received
Speaker 1: over six thousand likes, whilst another said I just feel
Speaker 1: like they're milking us. In fact, I did not see
Speaker 1: one positive comment from anyone expressing that they were looking
Speaker 1: forward to watching. I'm not surprised because there was so
Speaker 1: much talk around Molly's documentary that the whole thing was
Speaker 1: a big publicity stunt between them. I mean, they both
Speaker 1: seem to be gaining a lot out of this breakup.
Speaker 1: That's the thing that has been this commentary that this
Speaker 1: announcement just proves that the breakup was a huge publicity stunt.
Speaker 1: But I actually think it does the opposite, because to me,
Speaker 1: this documentary is all about giving Tommy a much needed
Speaker 1: redemption arc before he and Molly officially get back together.
Speaker 1: We all know that it's heading in that direction after
Speaker 1: their New Year's even couldn't. But wouldn't that prove the
Speaker 1: theory that this is a huge publicity stunt and that
Speaker 1: they were always going to break up together. Why would
Speaker 1: you put your family through all of it? I think
Speaker 1: that it was clear that his excessive drinking and partying
Speaker 1: was getting out into the public. Molly and her team
Speaker 1: couldn't manage it anymore. They couldn't stop this avalanche of
Speaker 1: rumors that all these girls are bringing out there. I
Speaker 1: genuinely think that Molly's only option at that time was
Speaker 1: to legitimately break up with him.
Speaker 2: Because oh, I agree.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no way you would go through all
Speaker 1: of this as a stage breakup. Yeah, I know, and
Speaker 1: no one would want that scrutiny on their young family.
Speaker 1: And also, Tommy has absolutely copped it on social media.
Speaker 1: His image is down the toilet. Everyone has been horrific
Speaker 1: to him. You know, they've got enough money. They're not
Speaker 1: going to just blow their lives up so that they
Speaker 1: can sell a clothing line that would have sold it
Speaker 1: anyway and get these documentaries. These documentary offers would have
Speaker 1: been on the table the second that Tyson Furies documentary
Speaker 1: did so well. And for Molly, she has been hell
Speaker 1: bent on building this picture perfect relationship online and her
Speaker 1: relationship is always going to be tarnished because of this breakoup.
Speaker 1: Do you think that this documentary is going to have
Speaker 1: as many TikTok moments or memeable moments that Molly's did.
Speaker 1: I definitely think it has the potential to be memorable
Speaker 1: because I think that Molly's followers will be holding onto
Speaker 1: every little thing he says about Molly and their relationship
Speaker 1: going forward. Well, also the fact that it's been made
Speaker 1: by the same people who made it Home with the Furies.
Speaker 1: I mean, that is one show that really went off
Speaker 1: on TikTok. Yeah. I feel like they're going to try
Speaker 1: and make this documentary really serious, and I think that
Speaker 1: the BBC has the ability.
Speaker 2: To turn him from the villain into.
Speaker 1: The which I think Molly and her team are hoping for,
Speaker 1: because they're probably going to go into the massive impacts
Speaker 1: that this hand injury has had on his mental health
Speaker 1: and how it led to his alcohol addiction and how.
Speaker 2: It's all spiraled.
Speaker 1: And I think that they're going to really demonstrate the
Speaker 1: emotional impact that all of this trolling has also had
Speaker 1: on Tommy, which is going to lead people to feel
Speaker 1: really bad and tug at the heart strings. And ultimately,
Speaker 1: I think that this is going to drop before part
Speaker 1: two of Molly's docco so that the public is geared
Speaker 1: up to see them back together. So he's going to
Speaker 1: be portrayed in this great light and everyone's going to
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, thank God, they're back together. He just
Speaker 1: had this hurdle in his life that was difficult. Well,
Speaker 1: look I'm here for this fairy tale. I'm here for
Speaker 1: this rekindling of Molly and Tommy. And as you said,
Speaker 1: having it played on the BBC is going to add
Speaker 1: that more serious element to the story. I mean, how
Speaker 1: do we watch it here? I don't even know what
Speaker 1: the BBC streaming services. I'm sure someone will pick it up,
Speaker 1: maybe ABC iView or something like that. We'll have to
Speaker 1: figure it out, because I am really keen to watch this.
Speaker 1: I think I've got more chances of persuading my husband
Speaker 1: to watch this with the boxing scenes. Maybe they can't
Speaker 1: eat this, but how exciting is it to smell it?
Speaker 1: Courtney Kardashian has shut down claims her fifteen year old
Speaker 1: son Mason Dizzick fathered a secret child in twenty twenty four,
Speaker 1: Labeling the rumors as fake. The forty five year old
Speaker 1: hit out on Instagram, calling on the media to leave.
Speaker 2: Her children alone.
Speaker 1: Amy, I have seen this popping up all over my
Speaker 1: TikTok and mainstream media have also picked up on this story.
Speaker 2: How did this all begin?
Speaker 1: So the rumors began spreading because an Instagram account claiming
Speaker 1: to be Mason popped up and revealed the baby news.
Speaker 1: So the account called Mason ddsh uploaded a question and
Speaker 1: answered box and answered a series of questions relating to
Speaker 1: this supposed secret child. So one user wrote in asking
Speaker 1: did you have a baby, and the account responded, yeah,
Speaker 1: I did. Another asked for a picture of Piper now
Speaker 1: that is the rumored child's name, and the account shared
Speaker 1: what looked to me like an AI image of a child.
Speaker 1: Another person asked who is Piper, to which the account
Speaker 1: responded a failed protection. These screenshots started being shared all
Speaker 1: over TikTok, and a lot of creators started sharing reaction videos,
Speaker 1: and many people were shocked at the prospect the Courtney
Speaker 1: cut ashy and could be a grammar at just forty five.
Speaker 1: I remember it was such a shock when she got
Speaker 1: pregnant with Mason, because she and her sister Chloe had
Speaker 1: just launched Courtney and Chloe Take Miami, and it was
Speaker 1: meant to be about them being single and meeting new
Speaker 1: people after she had split from Scott, But of course
Speaker 1: she and Scott ended up having Mason together. Yeah, was
Speaker 1: sort of ruined a few of their storylines, didn't it.
Speaker 2: It was crazy to think if they had TikTok then.
Speaker 1: I just can't believe that Mason is fifteen years old,
Speaker 1: because I feel like we've been seeing all these old
Speaker 1: paparazzi images of him as a child, like just in kids' clothes,
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is bullshit. There is absolutely
Speaker 1: no way that he could have fathered this child. But
Speaker 1: then there were some main street media publications who started
Speaker 1: sharing peace pictures of him looking much older, and I thought,
Speaker 1: maybe it's a possibility.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And something that.
Speaker 1: Seemed to fan this rumor even more was that Chris
Speaker 1: Jennet allegedly gifted a gingerbread house to the Barkers over
Speaker 1: Christmas with the name Piper on it, and this has
Speaker 1: become a Christmas tradition for the Kardashians. She gives these
Speaker 1: elaborate gingerbread houses, and people are convinced that she'd personalized
Speaker 1: one with Piper.
Speaker 2: I want to see the screenshots.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well. The rumors also coincided with Scott Distick opening
Speaker 1: up about Mason on Chloe Kardashian's podcast. He told Chloe
Speaker 1: Mason started to really like girls, and obviously girls like him.
Speaker 1: I just said, you can do whatever you want, just
Speaker 1: don't lie and don't manipulate any girls. So if a
Speaker 1: girl tells you she wants to maybe do something with
Speaker 1: you and like hook up or whatever. If she knows
Speaker 1: that you're not in a relationship with her, don't tell
Speaker 1: her you were just going to get something out of her.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people read into that commentary
Speaker 1: from Scott because I mean, Scott was such a ladies
Speaker 1: man on keeping up with the Kardashians. He was often
Speaker 1: caught out cheating on Courtney, and I think people think, oh, gosh,
Speaker 1: is Mason a little Scott now, Like is he mimicking
Speaker 1: his dad's behavior. I thought the Kardashians would kind of
Speaker 1: not be enjoying this rumor, but a lot of people
Speaker 1: have been saying that they aren't in the zeitgeist anymore.
Speaker 1: No one really cares about them. They're not big news,
Speaker 1: Like apparently the search is for Kim Kardashian a drastically
Speaker 1: down at the moment. Their new show doesn't seem to
Speaker 1: be going well, no one really cares about it. But
Speaker 1: I was like, maybe this is true, and maybe this
Speaker 1: is a way for them to get attention and it's
Speaker 1: going to be a future storyline. There have been some
Speaker 1: pretty wild rumors floating around, and one of those is
Speaker 1: that the Kardashian family have leaked this story about Mason
Speaker 1: in order to divert attention away from Travis Barker's daughter Alabama.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know much about herself, but
Speaker 1: there's been so much on TikTok and also so much
Speaker 1: in the press about this few that Alabama is having
Speaker 1: with a rapp called Bad Barbie. I mean, it's getting
Speaker 1: very nasty. So the latest is that Bad Barbie has
Speaker 1: accused Alabama of getting pregnant to wrap it Tiger, which
Speaker 1: is super awkward when you know the connection with the
Speaker 1: Kardashian family. Yeah, because Kylie Jenna dated Tiger when she
Speaker 1: was just seventeen years old, and then Tiger also shares
Speaker 1: a baby with Rob Kardashian's baby Mama Black China, So
Speaker 1: I mean it kind of would make sense, though he
Speaker 1: seems to like the family wants to be part of it. Well.
Speaker 1: Alabama and Tiger have both denied these rumors. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty wild to think that someone like
Speaker 1: Chris Jenna, the grandmother of Mason, would come out and
Speaker 1: be like, wait a sec, we're going to just throw
Speaker 1: Mason under the bus and make up this fake rumor
Speaker 1: that he's got a secret child. I really don't think
Speaker 1: that Chris Jenna would sell her grandson out like that.
Speaker 1: I think that they'd be trying to avoid any pregnancy rumors.
Speaker 1: And it's pretty clear that this rumor has really affected
Speaker 1: Courtney Kardashian and her family, because she addressed the rumors
Speaker 1: on Monday and wrote on Instagram. I rarely address rumors
Speaker 1: or conspiracies regarding myself or my family, but this is
Speaker 1: about my child and it feels wrong to let anyone
Speaker 1: think for a second that these lives are remotely true.
Speaker 1: They are not. Mason does not have a child. These
Speaker 1: accounts that pretend to be him are definitely not.
Speaker 2: They are fake.
Speaker 1: My son really values his privacy, and I'm asking all
Speaker 1: media to please be respectful. He is a kid with
Speaker 1: feelings and a beautiful life ahead of him. Please stop
Speaker 1: spreading false narratives and spinning lies. And to all the
Speaker 1: other people making videos about my kids, who by the way,
Speaker 1: are miners, please stop and leave them alone. This whole
Speaker 1: tobacle reminds me a lot of the Cape Middleton saga
Speaker 1: on TikTok, where all those videos started spreading and then
Speaker 1: everyone started buying into them. I think another reason why
Speaker 1: so many people were quick to believe these rumors is
Speaker 1: because Mason has been known to go rogue on Instagram before,
Speaker 1: because back in twenty twenty, he made up an Instagram
Speaker 1: live and started answering fan questions, and one of the
Speaker 1: questions he answered was was his auntie Kylie back with
Speaker 1: Travis Scott and he said, no, they're not back together.
Speaker 1: It does disturb me, though, that these type of rumors
Speaker 1: can spread like wildfire on TikTok and people just start
Speaker 1: to believe them as fat. I mean the fact that
Speaker 1: a lot of mainstream media were printing these accusations as well,
Speaker 1: purely because someone's jumped on TikTok and said, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: this must be true, like someone's set of a fake
Speaker 1: account for a fifteen year old.
Speaker 2: Where is the proof?
Speaker 1: I think it says a lot about journalism ethics as well,
Speaker 1: because this is a minor. At the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if it's a celebrities child or not.
Speaker 1: They're posting untrue allegations as if facts. Well, a lot
Speaker 1: of people have said they think it's ridiculous that Courtney's
Speaker 1: come out asking for privacy when she plasters her children
Speaker 1: on her social media channel and also on a TV show,
Speaker 1: so she plasters them all over social media. I think
Speaker 1: sharing a photo of your child isn't plastering. They mean
Speaker 1: that they've been their whole lives, have been on TV
Speaker 1: on the poast. Doesn't it mean that people can make
Speaker 1: up vicious rumors about your fifteen year old fathering a child.
Speaker 2: Yeah? I have this theory with pregnancy.
Speaker 1: After a lengthy fertility journey, Georgie Stevenson has revealed she's
Speaker 1: pregnant with her second child. While most followers were elated
Speaker 1: by the exciting news, the entrepreneur was forced to defend
Speaker 1: her conception timeline. Now, so before we get into it,
Speaker 1: can you tell us more about Georgie's fertility journey. Yeah,
Speaker 1: She's always been very open with her followers about her
Speaker 1: struggles to conceive, and before she gave birth to her daughter, Ivy,
Speaker 1: Georgie was actually told that she was infertile due to
Speaker 1: thyroid complications, but she ended up falling pregnant after eight
Speaker 1: months of trying to conceive. Now, very sadly, she did
Speaker 1: suffer a miscarriage, but then went on to have Ivy
Speaker 1: in late twenty twenty one. After going through IUI yeah.
Speaker 1: And at the end of last year, Georgie also revealed
Speaker 1: that she and her husband Tim had been trying for
Speaker 1: a baby since the beginning of the year, but were
Speaker 1: having trouble. In a candid reel, she shared a compilation
Speaker 1: of diary entries she'd filmed throughout the year, where she
Speaker 1: spoke about the toll the journey was taking on her
Speaker 1: mental health. In the Captain of the Real, Georgie confessed
Speaker 1: she was feeling exhausted and defeated.
Speaker 2: Super disappointing. I also feel into the bruiser. I also
Speaker 2: feel like quite sick. My doctor said, like never in
Speaker 2: his career just happened to a patient and he just
Speaker 2: feels so devastated for us.
Speaker 1: Now, Georgie actually wasn't going to share that real until
Speaker 1: she fell pregnant, but thought, well, it's going to help
Speaker 1: other people going through a similar thing. I'll be vulnerable
Speaker 1: and I will share it whilst I'm going through the journey.
Speaker 2: And I think that was a really.
Speaker 1: Good decision by Georgie because it would have helped so
Speaker 1: many people feel less alone. Now, if we fast forward
Speaker 1: three months, Georgie announced the exciting news that she is
Speaker 1: pregnant with her second child. The couple shared a gorgeous
Speaker 1: photo shoot and also a video showing their reactions to
Speaker 1: the positive pregnancy test. I was so happy for them
Speaker 1: when this post popped up. It was a really special moment,
Speaker 1: particularly knowing just what they'd been through and how special
Speaker 1: it was for them. And while most of Georgie's followers
Speaker 1: were ecstatic for her, one follower wrote, wait, so when
Speaker 1: you post in December crying in your car that you
Speaker 1: weren't pregnant, you actually were pregnant, whilst others chimed in
Speaker 1: saying she must have been lying. My god, I just
Speaker 1: don't know what would bring you to write something like
Speaker 1: that on somebody's pregnancy announcement. And I was really happy
Speaker 1: because Georgie came online and she shut down the allegations
Speaker 1: straight away.
Speaker 2: So she shared a.
Speaker 1: Screenshot of the comment to her Instagram story and wrote,
Speaker 1: also to those trying to catch me out for posting
Speaker 1: our infertility journey and accusing me of lying or whatever, Guys,
Speaker 1: please start being obsessed with your own life, not mine.
Speaker 1: But in all seriousness, here are the receipts because you
Speaker 1: seemed really worried about it. So she went on to
Speaker 1: share the receipts, which were screenshots of the dates the
Speaker 1: content was taken, and it turns out that the real
Speaker 1: she shared about her fertility journey was uploaded on the
Speaker 1: third of December, while she took the pregnancy test on
Speaker 1: the eleventh of December. So she went on to write, like,
Speaker 1: I get it. What a crazy miracle that I finally
Speaker 1: posted about our infertility after twelve months then got pregnant
Speaker 1: that month. Talk about the energy of divine timing, surrender,
Speaker 1: and detachment. I also understand that maybe triggering if you're
Speaker 1: going through your own stuff, but surely you can just
Speaker 1: be happy for a family finally getting their miracle baby.
Speaker 1: She then wanted to say that she understands that people
Speaker 1: are curious and she will share more on her podcast
Speaker 1: and YouTube about their journey and offered people to DM
Speaker 1: her if they had any questions. It is really sad
Speaker 1: because often when influencers put up their pregnancy announcements, a
Speaker 1: lot of people do get triggered who are going through
Speaker 1: these fertility journeys, and you can see why people lash out,
Speaker 1: But in this instance, it just seems really unfair because
Speaker 1: all of her followers knew she had struggled previously.
Speaker 2: To conceive it.
Speaker 1: Seems like a bit of misplaced digression in some instances,
Speaker 1: And I just think that we really need to encourage
Speaker 1: people to speak openly about their fertility struggles. And it's
Speaker 1: really concerning to me that people are attacking a woman
Speaker 1: over being vulnerable about her fertility journey.
Speaker 2: Like trying to catch her out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, why are we trying to catch someone out?
Speaker 1: I mean, she was vulnerable enough to open up about
Speaker 1: it and on numerous occasions and share about her miscarriage
Speaker 1: and share about her struggles. And then we say, oh,
Speaker 1: hold in a second, you were lying to us the
Speaker 1: whole time, even if she did post when she knew
Speaker 1: that she was pregnant, which isn't the case.
Speaker 2: Who fucking cares well.
Speaker 1: It's also like, can we just give her the benefit
Speaker 1: of the doubt, because, I mean, the accusation seems to
Speaker 1: be that she's using this her infertility struggles to get
Speaker 1: views or lives. Dog Stevenson doesn't need to do that.
Speaker 1: That's not really what her content's about any more. Her
Speaker 1: content is more about business and also about her courses
Speaker 1: and that kind of thing. She doesn't need that content
Speaker 1: to do well. I just think people need to stop
Speaker 1: being dickheads online, like there should just be a no
Speaker 1: dickhead rule in the comment section, which I suppose there
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't be much engagement online anymore. But I think
Speaker 1: that is all we have time for today. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining us for this episode. If you
Speaker 1: have enjoyed it, could you please make sure you are
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Speaker 1: recorded on the traditional land of the Guana people of
Speaker 1: the Adelaide Plains.
Speaker 2: We pay respect to elders past and present,