WEBVTT - Confronting 'That Girl' 

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<v Speaker 1>Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the

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<v Speaker 1>hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Amy Torber and coming up on today's show, Bachelor Golden

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<v Speaker 1>couple Georgia Love and Lee Elliot confirm their marriage is over.

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<v Speaker 1>Tommy Fury lands his own documentary, Georgie Stephenson is forced

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<v Speaker 1>to defend her conception Timeline, and Courtney Kardashian hits back

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<v Speaker 1>at rumors she's a grandma but first og influencer Gretti

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<v Speaker 1>Rose has thrown serious shade at her former bestie Ashy

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<v Speaker 1>Binds and reignited interest in their historic friendship breakdown. Now Sophie,

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<v Speaker 1>every week there seems to be an old friend taking

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<v Speaker 1>Amy Ashy. Yeah, hasn't been a great start to the

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<v Speaker 1>year for her. She had that very public falling out

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<v Speaker 1>with her former podcast host Kiara Durro and following that

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<v Speaker 1>bust up, Kiara caught up for drinks with some of

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<v Speaker 1>Ashey's former friends, which included Sammy Leo, Gretti Rose, and

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<v Speaker 1>nat Roland to all swap stories about their experience with Ashy,

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<v Speaker 1>and they of course splashed that catch up all over

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<v Speaker 1>social media to get their followers talking. Well, there have

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<v Speaker 1>been rumors of a rift between Ashy and Gretty since

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>They used to be permanent fixtures on each other's social channels.

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<v Speaker 1>They even appeared in best friend tag videos on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 1>and they tried to dress up like twins at one

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<v Speaker 1>point because everyone pointed out that they looked very similar.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the friendship's gone to the next level when

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<v Speaker 1>you're dressing the same. They also seem to support each

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<v Speaker 1>other a lot in business, so they seem to collaborate

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<v Speaker 1>on their clothing brands together. But then suddenly in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two, things went really quiet between them and they

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<v Speaker 1>stopped appearing in each other's content, and then the dirty

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<v Speaker 1>unfollow happened, which is always a sign that something's gone

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<v Speaker 1>on behind the scenes. Yeah, the unfollow is a big thing,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in the social media world. That is friendship over Well.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like putting out a pr statement saying, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I want everyone to know that we're not friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, doing this very publicly.

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<v Speaker 1>Solf launching the friendship breakdown. Yeah, and this was really

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<v Speaker 1>huge because Gretty and Ashy had been friends for well

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<v Speaker 1>over seven years. They even lived together before Ashe got married,

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<v Speaker 1>and Gretti had really built her following through Ashey's channels because,

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<v Speaker 1>as I said, she was a permanent fixture on her

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube channel. She was also a guest fitness instructor on

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<v Speaker 1>Ashy's Booty Tour, so she really did grow her profile

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<v Speaker 1>true befriending Ashi and no one really knows what caused

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<v Speaker 1>this rift because both women haven't publicly spoken about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there is a lot of speculation that the

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<v Speaker 1>falling out was perhaps over business. It was around the

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<v Speaker 1>same time that a riff started developing between Ashy and

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<v Speaker 1>her other bestie, Sammy Leo, So they appeared to fall

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<v Speaker 1>out over a business decision because Ashe's brand, Hideaway, released

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<v Speaker 1>a lip balm which Sammy deemed to be very similar

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<v Speaker 1>to her lip balm brand, which is called Breeze Balm.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't that just sound like an influencer problem, like my

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<v Speaker 1>lip balm is so similar to yours. Well, Sammy ended

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<v Speaker 1>up sharing a meme which said you know you're winning

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<v Speaker 1>when you're being copied, and that was after ash released

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<v Speaker 1>her Hideaway lip bum. So it was all very controversial

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<v Speaker 1>at the time. I think one of our most asked

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<v Speaker 1>questions on Instagram is what happened between Ashy and Sammy Leo.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone wants us to do a deep dive. Maybe we'll

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<v Speaker 1>have to do one. Well, we might have to get

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<v Speaker 1>in contact with Samuy Leo and ash she'd actually find

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<v Speaker 1>out what's gone down because it seems all very secretive. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it really seems that this catch up between all of

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<v Speaker 1>Ashey's former friends has spurred the women on to take

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<v Speaker 1>further potshots at Ashy. So on Sunday, Gretty took part

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<v Speaker 1>in a viral TikTok trend which is all about confronting

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<v Speaker 1>that one girl. So in the video, she mimed to

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<v Speaker 1>Kendrick Lamar's disk track not Like Us, which is rumored

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<v Speaker 1>to be written about Drake but.

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<v Speaker 2>He keeps popping up on the show. And in the

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<v Speaker 2>caption it.

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<v Speaker 1>Said, I want to confront that one girl, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know they will never admit they're wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that girl.

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<v Speaker 1>It was very clear off the bat who Gretty was

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<v Speaker 1>referring to. I mean she only has eleven thousand followers

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<v Speaker 1>on TikTok. This video garnered over two hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand views because everyone was sending it on. Her comment

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<v Speaker 1>section lit up with people commenting that it must be

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<v Speaker 1>Ashy and also her followers praising Gretty and the other

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<v Speaker 1>women for taking a step away from Ashi. Gretty went

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<v Speaker 1>as far as tagging Sammy Leo in the comment section

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<v Speaker 1>just to make sure she didn't miss out on the drama,

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<v Speaker 1>whilst Kiara Durrow, Ash's former podcast host commented with three

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<v Speaker 1>clapping hands, what a burn. This also seemed to spur

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<v Speaker 1>Kiara on to create her own video, so she also

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<v Speaker 1>mimed to the disk track whilst drinking a glass of

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<v Speaker 1>red wine and wrote the caption cheers to that. This

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<v Speaker 1>actually led to one of Ashe's friends, Meg, hitting out

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<v Speaker 1>in the comments section, so she wrote to Kiara, it's

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<v Speaker 1>so gross to see a video designed to stir up hate.

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<v Speaker 1>Social media has enough negativity, why add to it. If

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<v Speaker 1>your content relies on toxic comments for engagement, maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>time for a new approach. Kiara replied, saying, feel free

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<v Speaker 1>in a couple of years to reach back out when

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<v Speaker 1>you're in the same boat.

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<v Speaker 2>But I wish you the best.

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<v Speaker 1>Now both women have turned off the comments on their videos.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming for legal reasons. I would actually pay so

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<v Speaker 1>much money to be a fly on the wall a

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<v Speaker 1>meeting between Ashy and her lawyer trying to explain this trend.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the trend seemed to backfire a bit on

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<v Speaker 1>Gretty and Kiara because there was a very mixed reaction.

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<v Speaker 1>Some followers love to be in on the drama and

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<v Speaker 1>the tea, and they were desperate for the women to

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<v Speaker 1>go into more details about their bust up with Ashi,

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<v Speaker 1>whilst a lot of members in our Facebook community seem

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<v Speaker 1>to share the same sentiment that the women should move on.

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<v Speaker 1>One listener wrote, there's nothing to talk about or any

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<v Speaker 1>tea if they're not sharing more information. We've all seen

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<v Speaker 1>Ashy's true colors. It's kind of boring now, whilst another said, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's childish. They are grown women. What a waste

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<v Speaker 1>of time and negative energy. I kind of get where

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<v Speaker 1>they're coming from, because even though these women might be

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<v Speaker 1>in the right sharing this type of content, it can

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<v Speaker 1>get to the point where it seems as if maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they're ganging up on her. Yeah, it seems like a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a pylon in this case. I do see

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<v Speaker 1>Ashy as being the Goliath and the others as being

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<v Speaker 1>the David in the situation, because I mean, ash is

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<v Speaker 1>the one with the bigger profile, probably more my more

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<v Speaker 1>power in that situation, So I feel like they think

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay because they feel like they're coming against someone

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<v Speaker 1>who's bigger than them. I find it interesting as well

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<v Speaker 1>that the commentary is basically tell us what's happened, or

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<v Speaker 1>we're not going to be interested in.

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<v Speaker 2>Support your comments.

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<v Speaker 1>Also think that there's a bit more sympathy going Ashy's

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<v Speaker 1>way because she's had a really tough time with her

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<v Speaker 1>health over the past year or so. She's been diagnosed

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<v Speaker 1>with two brain aneurysms. She's had to go through two

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<v Speaker 1>separate surgery, so I think people are just thinking, like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just move on and get over it. Well, we

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<v Speaker 1>spoke last week about the Michaela Testa drama and how

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the back and forth between her and

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<v Speaker 1>her former friend had.

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<v Speaker 2>Just muddied the water.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I see with these kind of tiktoks, because

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<v Speaker 1>you're not really making any claims against her. You're sort

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<v Speaker 1>of just stirring the pot with a dog whistle. Isn't

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<v Speaker 1>it the ashually to react to it? I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy the gossip and the tea, but I can see

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<v Speaker 1>why other people are saying look, just move on.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the moment I met my husband.

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<v Speaker 1>After months of speculation, a bachelor Golden couple, Georgia Love

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<v Speaker 1>and Lee Elliott, have confirmed their marriage is over. The couple,

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<v Speaker 1>who were together for nine years, shared identical statements on Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>emphasizing there was no drama or bad blood between them now,

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<v Speaker 1>So this news didn't come as a shop to the public. No,

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<v Speaker 1>there have been persistent rumors for months now that their

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<v Speaker 1>relationship was on the rocks, because Georgia and Lee hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>been seen in public or posted together for over four

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<v Speaker 1>months on socials. Another massive giveaway was that they had

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<v Speaker 1>both stopped wearing their wedding bands, and they also didn't

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<v Speaker 1>spend Christmas together now. Rumors really intensified in the new

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<v Speaker 1>year when Georgia embarked on a solo trip to New

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<v Speaker 1>York and she was inundated with fans asking her where

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<v Speaker 1>her husband Lee was now At the time, She shut

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<v Speaker 1>down the rumors, saying she was incredibly tired of the

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<v Speaker 1>questions and that he's simply at home while she's there

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<v Speaker 1>visiting a friend. She went as far as saying we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't split. Actually, best to stop speculating, least of all

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<v Speaker 1>on my own page. If I had anything to tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>I would do so myself. Well, it's quite clear that

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<v Speaker 1>they've been trialing a separation before making it official. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is a massive decision for anybody, let alone when

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<v Speaker 1>you've met on the Bachelor and everybody is so invested

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<v Speaker 1>in your relationship. And we've got to remember they were

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<v Speaker 1>going out for nine years, they've been married for four.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a really sad story.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it would be so tough navigating it all in

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<v Speaker 1>the public eye, because once the genie is out of

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<v Speaker 1>the bottle, it's very hard to put it back in.

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<v Speaker 1>So ultimately, I think that they wanted to give their

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<v Speaker 1>relationship the space and the time and to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>maybe to see if spending time apart was the right

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<v Speaker 1>decision for them. Well, on Friday night, they pulled the pin,

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<v Speaker 1>as you said, and they announced their split with identical

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<v Speaker 1>statements on their Instagram stories. So Georgia's statement read, after

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<v Speaker 1>nine wonderful years together, including four as husband and wife,

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<v Speaker 1>Lee and I have made the incredibly difficult decision to

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<v Speaker 1>lovingly part ways. Our relationship has been so special and

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<v Speaker 1>we will always cherish the memories, love and laughter we've

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<v Speaker 1>shared There is no drama, no bad blood, just two

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<v Speaker 1>people who have grown in different directions while still holding

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<v Speaker 1>deep respect and care for each other. We remain friends

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<v Speaker 1>and thank you for giving us privacy as we navigate

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<v Speaker 1>the next stage. Although I knew this was coming, I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't help but feel so sad. They were one of

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<v Speaker 1>the Bachelor's biggest success stories and they seemed like a

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<v Speaker 1>really genuine couple. They seem to compliment each other really well,

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<v Speaker 1>and for me, it feels like their wedding was only yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>because I remember they were supposed to have this European

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<v Speaker 1>destination wedding but it got canceled due to COVID, so

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<v Speaker 1>they had a beautiful wedding in Hobart, where Georgia used

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<v Speaker 1>to work as a journal Well, their wedding anniversary is

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<v Speaker 1>actually coming up, so it's on Wednesday. So I suspect

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<v Speaker 1>this is why they've made this announcement, because yeah, there

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<v Speaker 1>would have been a lot of speculation about, well, why

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<v Speaker 1>haven't they posted something about their anniversary. Did find the

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<v Speaker 1>wording of the statement very interesting. I mean, it's clear

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<v Speaker 1>that they've spent a lot of time agonizing over getting

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<v Speaker 1>the wording perfect and making sure, it's clear to the

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<v Speaker 1>public that this is simply a case of them growing

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<v Speaker 1>apart and there's you know, no other parties involved. But

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was weird how they said that they

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<v Speaker 1>lovingly are partying ways, because if you end your relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>it's generally because you've fallen out of love with someone.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like this. I feel like this. They were

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<v Speaker 2>trying to put a bit too much mayo.

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<v Speaker 1>I sell it to a lot of people to believe

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe one of them wanted children and the other

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<v Speaker 1>one didn't, and they might still have been in love.

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<v Speaker 1>But some people just can't get past if one wants

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<v Speaker 1>them and the other one doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I take to speculate about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that commentary and it made me feel really

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<v Speaker 1>uncomfortable because that might not be the case at all.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think when a couple like that breaks up,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, they've made it clear that they're still

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<v Speaker 1>very much friends, in love and respect each other, I

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<v Speaker 1>think people do jump to that conclusion. For me, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it maybe came down to the fact that they

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<v Speaker 1>do live very different lives in the sense of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for Georgia, she works in breakfast radio and she's a

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<v Speaker 1>news reader on there, she would be getting up so

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<v Speaker 1>early in the morning. It's a very demanding job. I

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<v Speaker 1>know when I worked in breakfast radio just for a

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<v Speaker 1>few months, I was an awful person to be around

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<v Speaker 1>because I was so sleep deprived. If you're getting up

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<v Speaker 1>at three am every morning, how are you then having

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<v Speaker 1>the quality time to spend with your partner. Well, it

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<v Speaker 1>can put a lot of pressure on your relationship. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because Lee, he runs a large scale plumbing company, so

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<v Speaker 1>he's obviously very busy with his work as well, so

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they have grown apart. I thought it was clever

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<v Speaker 1>for them to say that there's no bad blood and

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<v Speaker 1>no drama, because I think a lot of people would

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<v Speaker 1>have then jumped to the next conclusion that maybe one

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<v Speaker 1>of them cheated. I mean, they're both very good looking people.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there's lots of offers in their DM. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the reason why people are so upset about this,

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<v Speaker 1>and why people like Lee and Georgia so much is

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<v Speaker 1>despite meeting on a show like The Bachelor, they have

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<v Speaker 1>a very down to earth vibe, and I think that

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<v Speaker 1>people almost think it's kind of like their friends that

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<v Speaker 1>have just had this shock breakup, Like there were the

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<v Speaker 1>people that you would least expect to break up, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's why it's been met with such sadness. I do

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<v Speaker 1>believe that they will actually remain friends, though, because I

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<v Speaker 1>remember Georgia seemed to be friends with a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>the guys that she dated.

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<v Speaker 2>Off The Bachelor.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's not quite the same as a marriage,

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<v Speaker 1>but I feel like they've both got those personalities where

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<v Speaker 1>they do want the best for one another. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's different once you've been married for nine years compared

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<v Speaker 1>to going on a.

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<v Speaker 2>Few dates on the back.

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<v Speaker 1>I think things change once people then finally move on

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<v Speaker 1>and find someone else.

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<v Speaker 3>The secrets out there now.

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<v Speaker 1>Molly May's ex fiance Tommy Fury, has revealed he's getting

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<v Speaker 1>a documentary of his own. The boxer made the announcement

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<v Speaker 1>on BBC's social channels, promising an insight into his life

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<v Speaker 1>inside and outside the ring. So if this announcement comes

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<v Speaker 1>just weeks after part one of Molly's documentary Behind it

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<v Speaker 1>All dropped on Amazon.

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<v Speaker 2>Prime, I am so excited.

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<v Speaker 1>Evidently, it seems like I'm may be the only person

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<v Speaker 1>who is excited about this announcement. After Tommy Fury's comment section,

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<v Speaker 1>but the documentary is called Tommy The Good, The Bad,

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<v Speaker 1>the Fury, which that makes me excited, and it is

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<v Speaker 1>expected to drop in between part one and Part two

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<v Speaker 1>of Molly's doco now. The series is being produced by

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<v Speaker 1>the same production company which produced Tommy's brother Tyson Fury's

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<v Speaker 1>recent show, which was called At Home with the Furies,

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<v Speaker 1>And just like Molly, Tommy has had camera crews following

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<v Speaker 1>him for months now now. The BBC have described the

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<v Speaker 1>documentary as a candid access all areas series and in

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<v Speaker 1>their press release, the BBC said, just a year ago,

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<v Speaker 1>Tommy Fury seemed to have it all, victory over his

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<v Speaker 1>biggest adversary, Jake paul A, love with Molly May and

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful baby daughter, Bambi. But in his last fight

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<v Speaker 1>he damaged his hand and unable to train. His life

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<v Speaker 1>spun out of control. Sounds very dramatic.

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<v Speaker 2>It does sound dramatic.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do I think that so much of this is

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<v Speaker 1>just going to be him in the ring and it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be boring though they have been teasing that

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to concentrate also on his personal life. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think that they are going to want to make

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<v Speaker 1>this a documentary, not just for women, but also for

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<v Speaker 1>men who will find the fighting side of it interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of pressure on the success of this

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<v Speaker 1>documentary because Molly's has just been such a knockout of

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<v Speaker 1>a prime Yeah, but Molly also received some criticism for

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<v Speaker 1>its sort of being too overly produced, not serious enough. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but it rated so well.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting. It's on the BBC. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Tommy actually made the announcement on BBC's Socials. It

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<v Speaker 1>looked like he had just filmed sort of a piece

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<v Speaker 1>to camera.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what he said about it.

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<v Speaker 3>The secrets out there now. Me and the BBC have

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<v Speaker 3>been working closely on something very special. The cameras have

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<v Speaker 3>been following me for a few months now, inside the Ring,

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<v Speaker 3>outside the Ring, all accesses of my life, and I

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<v Speaker 3>can't wait for you all to see. It's coming later

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<v Speaker 3>on in the year. It's going to be on BBC

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<v Speaker 3>Three and BBCi Player. Take easy, guys and keep them

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<v Speaker 3>as Field.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to watch it a few times because it

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<v Speaker 1>almost looked like AI. Yeah, there was something that wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>quite right about it. He almost looked too filtered or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe he'd accidentally put a filter on who knows now.

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<v Speaker 1>Tommy followed up saying a lot of people see me

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<v Speaker 1>in the ring, they see me on social media, but

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<v Speaker 1>they don't see me the person behind all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited for everyone to finally be able to see

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<v Speaker 1>what goes on behind the scenes, how the big fights

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<v Speaker 1>are made, all the ups and downs, as well as

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<v Speaker 1>a glimpse into my life. It's pretty clear that Molly

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<v Speaker 1>won't feature in this because Tommy has not featured in

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<v Speaker 1>Molly's Amazon Prime series at all. I'm assuming as well

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<v Speaker 1>that because Molly has his documentary with Amazon, she can't

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<v Speaker 1>just be popping up on the BBC. Yeah. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think we're going to be seeing her in it at all,

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<v Speaker 1>and it does make.

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<v Speaker 2>Sense, particularly if they have separate deals.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there's contracts in place that they have to

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<v Speaker 1>align with that particular streaming service. I wantn't know if

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<v Speaker 1>it was filmed at the exact same time as Part one,

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<v Speaker 1>and will this also be coming out as a Part

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<v Speaker 1>one Part two. Yeah. Well, it is safe to say

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<v Speaker 1>that not everyone is excited about this documentary. The comment

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<v Speaker 1>section under this BBC post were absolutely brutal. One user

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<v Speaker 1>road I'll be busy watching Paint Dry Sorry, which received

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<v Speaker 1>over six thousand likes, whilst another said I just feel

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<v Speaker 1>like they're milking us. In fact, I did not see

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<v Speaker 1>one positive comment from anyone expressing that they were looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward to watching. I'm not surprised because there was so

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<v Speaker 1>much talk around Molly's documentary that the whole thing was

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<v Speaker 1>a big publicity stunt between them. I mean, they both

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<v Speaker 1>seem to be gaining a lot out of this breakup.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing that has been this commentary that this

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<v Speaker 1>announcement just proves that the breakup was a huge publicity stunt.

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<v Speaker 1>But I actually think it does the opposite, because to me,

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<v Speaker 1>this documentary is all about giving Tommy a much needed

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<v Speaker 1>redemption arc before he and Molly officially get back together.

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<v Speaker 1>We all know that it's heading in that direction after

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<v Speaker 1>their New Year's even couldn't. But wouldn't that prove the

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<v Speaker 1>theory that this is a huge publicity stunt and that

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<v Speaker 1>they were always going to break up together. Why would

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<v Speaker 1>you put your family through all of it? I think

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<v Speaker 1>that it was clear that his excessive drinking and partying

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<v Speaker 1>was getting out into the public. Molly and her team

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't manage it anymore. They couldn't stop this avalanche of

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<v Speaker 1>rumors that all these girls are bringing out there. I

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<v Speaker 1>genuinely think that Molly's only option at that time was

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<v Speaker 1>to legitimately break up with him.

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<v Speaker 2>Because oh, I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's no way you would go through all

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<v Speaker 1>of this as a stage breakup. Yeah, I know, and

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<v Speaker 1>no one would want that scrutiny on their young family.

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<v Speaker 1>And also, Tommy has absolutely copped it on social media.

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<v Speaker 1>His image is down the toilet. Everyone has been horrific

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<v Speaker 1>to him. You know, they've got enough money. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to just blow their lives up so that they

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<v Speaker 1>can sell a clothing line that would have sold it

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<v Speaker 1>anyway and get these documentaries. These documentary offers would have

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<v Speaker 1>been on the table the second that Tyson Furies documentary

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<v Speaker 1>did so well. And for Molly, she has been hell

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<v Speaker 1>bent on building this picture perfect relationship online and her

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<v Speaker 1>relationship is always going to be tarnished because of this breakoup.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that this documentary is going to have

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<v Speaker 1>as many TikTok moments or memeable moments that Molly's did.

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely think it has the potential to be memorable

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<v Speaker 1>because I think that Molly's followers will be holding onto

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<v Speaker 1>every little thing he says about Molly and their relationship

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<v Speaker 1>going forward. Well, also the fact that it's been made

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<v Speaker 1>by the same people who made it Home with the Furies.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that is one show that really went off

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<v Speaker 1>on TikTok. Yeah. I feel like they're going to try

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<v Speaker 1>and make this documentary really serious, and I think that

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<v Speaker 1>the BBC has the ability.

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<v Speaker 2>To turn him from the villain into.

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<v Speaker 1>The which I think Molly and her team are hoping for,

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<v Speaker 1>because they're probably going to go into the massive impacts

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<v Speaker 1>that this hand injury has had on his mental health

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<v Speaker 1>and how it led to his alcohol addiction and how.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all spiraled.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that they're going to really demonstrate the

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<v Speaker 1>emotional impact that all of this trolling has also had

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<v Speaker 1>on Tommy, which is going to lead people to feel

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<v Speaker 1>really bad and tug at the heart strings. And ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that this is going to drop before part

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<v Speaker 1>two of Molly's docco so that the public is geared

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<v Speaker 1>up to see them back together. So he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be portrayed in this great light and everyone's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, yeah, thank God, they're back together. He just

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<v Speaker 1>had this hurdle in his life that was difficult. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>look I'm here for this fairy tale. I'm here for

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<v Speaker 1>this rekindling of Molly and Tommy. And as you said,

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<v Speaker 1>having it played on the BBC is going to add

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<v Speaker 1>that more serious element to the story. I mean, how

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<v Speaker 1>do we watch it here? I don't even know what

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<v Speaker 1>the BBC streaming services. I'm sure someone will pick it up,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe ABC iView or something like that. We'll have to

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<v Speaker 1>figure it out, because I am really keen to watch this.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've got more chances of persuading my husband

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<v Speaker 1>to watch this with the boxing scenes. Maybe they can't

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<v Speaker 1>eat this, but how exciting is it to smell it?

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<v Speaker 1>Courtney Kardashian has shut down claims her fifteen year old

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<v Speaker 1>son Mason Dizzick fathered a secret child in twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 1>Labeling the rumors as fake. The forty five year old

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<v Speaker 1>hit out on Instagram, calling on the media to leave.

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<v Speaker 2>Her children alone.

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<v Speaker 1>Amy, I have seen this popping up all over my

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok and mainstream media have also picked up on this story.

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<v Speaker 2>How did this all begin?

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<v Speaker 1>So the rumors began spreading because an Instagram account claiming

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<v Speaker 1>to be Mason popped up and revealed the baby news.

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<v Speaker 1>So the account called Mason ddsh uploaded a question and

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<v Speaker 1>answered box and answered a series of questions relating to

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<v Speaker 1>this supposed secret child. So one user wrote in asking

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<v Speaker 1>did you have a baby, and the account responded, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I did. Another asked for a picture of Piper now

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<v Speaker 1>that is the rumored child's name, and the account shared

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<v Speaker 1>what looked to me like an AI image of a child.

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<v Speaker 1>Another person asked who is Piper, to which the account

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<v Speaker 1>responded a failed protection. These screenshots started being shared all

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<v Speaker 1>over TikTok, and a lot of creators started sharing reaction videos,

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<v Speaker 1>and many people were shocked at the prospect the Courtney

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<v Speaker 1>cut ashy and could be a grammar at just forty five.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember it was such a shock when she got

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<v Speaker 1>pregnant with Mason, because she and her sister Chloe had

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<v Speaker 1>just launched Courtney and Chloe Take Miami, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>meant to be about them being single and meeting new

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<v Speaker 1>people after she had split from Scott, But of course

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<v Speaker 1>she and Scott ended up having Mason together. Yeah, was

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<v Speaker 1>sort of ruined a few of their storylines, didn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was crazy to think if they had TikTok then.

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't believe that Mason is fifteen years old,

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel like we've been seeing all these old

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<v Speaker 1>paparazzi images of him as a child, like just in kids' clothes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, this is bullshit. There is absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>no way that he could have fathered this child. But

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<v Speaker 1>then there were some main street media publications who started

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<v Speaker 1>sharing peace pictures of him looking much older, and I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's a possibility.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And something that.

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<v Speaker 1>Seemed to fan this rumor even more was that Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Jennet allegedly gifted a gingerbread house to the Barkers over

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas with the name Piper on it, and this has

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<v Speaker 1>become a Christmas tradition for the Kardashians. She gives these

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<v Speaker 1>elaborate gingerbread houses, and people are convinced that she'd personalized

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<v Speaker 1>one with Piper.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to see the screenshots.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well. The rumors also coincided with Scott Distick opening

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<v Speaker 1>up about Mason on Chloe Kardashian's podcast. He told Chloe

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<v Speaker 1>Mason started to really like girls, and obviously girls like him.

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<v Speaker 1>I just said, you can do whatever you want, just

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<v Speaker 1>don't lie and don't manipulate any girls. So if a

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<v Speaker 1>girl tells you she wants to maybe do something with

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<v Speaker 1>you and like hook up or whatever. If she knows

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<v Speaker 1>that you're not in a relationship with her, don't tell

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<v Speaker 1>her you were just going to get something out of her.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people read into that commentary

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<v Speaker 1>from Scott because I mean, Scott was such a ladies

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<v Speaker 1>man on keeping up with the Kardashians. He was often

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<v Speaker 1>caught out cheating on Courtney, and I think people think, oh, gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>is Mason a little Scott now, Like is he mimicking

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<v Speaker 1>his dad's behavior. I thought the Kardashians would kind of

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<v Speaker 1>not be enjoying this rumor, but a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>have been saying that they aren't in the zeitgeist anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>No one really cares about them. They're not big news,

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<v Speaker 1>Like apparently the search is for Kim Kardashian a drastically

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<v Speaker 1>down at the moment. Their new show doesn't seem to

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<v Speaker 1>be going well, no one really cares about it. But

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, maybe this is true, and maybe this

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<v Speaker 1>is a way for them to get attention and it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a future storyline. There have been some

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<v Speaker 1>pretty wild rumors floating around, and one of those is

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<v Speaker 1>that the Kardashian family have leaked this story about Mason

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<v Speaker 1>in order to divert attention away from Travis Barker's daughter Alabama.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you know much about herself, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's been so much on TikTok and also so much

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<v Speaker 1>in the press about this few that Alabama is having

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<v Speaker 1>with a rapp called Bad Barbie. I mean, it's getting

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<v Speaker 1>very nasty. So the latest is that Bad Barbie has

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<v Speaker 1>accused Alabama of getting pregnant to wrap it Tiger, which

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<v Speaker 1>is super awkward when you know the connection with the

0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Kardashian family. Yeah, because Kylie Jenna dated Tiger when she

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<v Speaker 1>was just seventeen years old, and then Tiger also shares

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<v Speaker 1>a baby with Rob Kardashian's baby Mama Black China, So

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it kind of would make sense, though he

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<v Speaker 1>seems to like the family wants to be part of it. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Alabama and Tiger have both denied these rumors. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's pretty wild to think that someone like

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Jenna, the grandmother of Mason, would come out and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, wait a sec, we're going to just throw

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<v Speaker 1>Mason under the bus and make up this fake rumor

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<v Speaker 1>that he's got a secret child. I really don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that Chris Jenna would sell her grandson out like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that they'd be trying to avoid any pregnancy rumors.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's pretty clear that this rumor has really affected

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<v Speaker 1>Courtney Kardashian and her family, because she addressed the rumors

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday and wrote on Instagram. I rarely address rumors

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<v Speaker 1>or conspiracies regarding myself or my family, but this is

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<v Speaker 1>about my child and it feels wrong to let anyone

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<v Speaker 1>think for a second that these lives are remotely true.

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<v Speaker 1>They are not. Mason does not have a child. These

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<v Speaker 1>accounts that pretend to be him are definitely not.

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<v Speaker 2>They are fake.

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<v Speaker 1>My son really values his privacy, and I'm asking all

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<v Speaker 1>media to please be respectful. He is a kid with

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<v Speaker 1>feelings and a beautiful life ahead of him. Please stop

0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:17.760
<v Speaker 1>spreading false narratives and spinning lies. And to all the

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<v Speaker 1>other people making videos about my kids, who by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>are miners, please stop and leave them alone. This whole

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<v Speaker 1>tobacle reminds me a lot of the Cape Middleton saga

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<v Speaker 1>on TikTok, where all those videos started spreading and then

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<v Speaker 1>everyone started buying into them. I think another reason why

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<v Speaker 1>so many people were quick to believe these rumors is

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<v Speaker 1>because Mason has been known to go rogue on Instagram before,

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<v Speaker 1>because back in twenty twenty, he made up an Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>live and started answering fan questions, and one of the

0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:47.959
<v Speaker 1>questions he answered was was his auntie Kylie back with

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<v Speaker 1>Travis Scott and he said, no, they're not back together.

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<v Speaker 1>It does disturb me, though, that these type of rumors

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<v Speaker 1>can spread like wildfire on TikTok and people just start

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<v Speaker 1>to believe them as fat. I mean the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of mainstream media were printing these accusations as well,

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<v Speaker 1>purely because someone's jumped on TikTok and said, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this must be true, like someone's set of a fake

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<v Speaker 1>account for a fifteen year old.

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<v Speaker 2>Where is the proof?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it says a lot about journalism ethics as well,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is a minor. At the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter if it's a celebrities child or not.

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<v Speaker 1>They're posting untrue allegations as if facts. Well, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people have said they think it's ridiculous that Courtney's

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<v Speaker 1>come out asking for privacy when she plasters her children

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<v Speaker 1>on her social media channel and also on a TV show,

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<v Speaker 1>so she plasters them all over social media. I think

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<v Speaker 1>sharing a photo of your child isn't plastering. They mean

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<v Speaker 1>that they've been their whole lives, have been on TV

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<v Speaker 1>on the poast. Doesn't it mean that people can make

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<v Speaker 1>up vicious rumors about your fifteen year old fathering a child.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I have this theory with pregnancy.

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<v Speaker 1>After a lengthy fertility journey, Georgie Stevenson has revealed she's

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<v Speaker 1>pregnant with her second child. While most followers were elated

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<v Speaker 1>by the exciting news, the entrepreneur was forced to defend

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<v Speaker 1>her conception timeline. Now, so before we get into it,

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<v Speaker 1>can you tell us more about Georgie's fertility journey. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>She's always been very open with her followers about her

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<v Speaker 1>struggles to conceive, and before she gave birth to her daughter, Ivy,

0:26:15.280 --> 0:26:18.239
<v Speaker 1>Georgie was actually told that she was infertile due to

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<v Speaker 1>thyroid complications, but she ended up falling pregnant after eight

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<v Speaker 1>months of trying to conceive. Now, very sadly, she did

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<v Speaker 1>suffer a miscarriage, but then went on to have Ivy

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<v Speaker 1>in late twenty twenty one. After going through IUI yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And at the end of last year, Georgie also revealed

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<v Speaker 1>that she and her husband Tim had been trying for

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<v Speaker 1>a baby since the beginning of the year, but were

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<v Speaker 1>having trouble. In a candid reel, she shared a compilation

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<v Speaker 1>of diary entries she'd filmed throughout the year, where she

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<v Speaker 1>spoke about the toll the journey was taking on her

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<v Speaker 1>mental health. In the Captain of the Real, Georgie confessed

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<v Speaker 1>she was feeling exhausted and defeated.

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<v Speaker 2>Super disappointing. I also feel into the bruiser. I also

0:26:58.680 --> 0:27:03.399
<v Speaker 2>feel like quite sick. My doctor said, like never in

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<v Speaker 2>his career just happened to a patient and he just

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<v Speaker 2>feels so devastated for us.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Georgie actually wasn't going to share that real until

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<v Speaker 1>she fell pregnant, but thought, well, it's going to help

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<v Speaker 1>other people going through a similar thing. I'll be vulnerable

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<v Speaker 1>and I will share it whilst I'm going through the journey.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that was a really.

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<v Speaker 1>Good decision by Georgie because it would have helped so

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<v Speaker 1>many people feel less alone. Now, if we fast forward

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<v Speaker 1>three months, Georgie announced the exciting news that she is

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<v Speaker 1>pregnant with her second child. The couple shared a gorgeous

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<v Speaker 1>photo shoot and also a video showing their reactions to

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<v Speaker 1>the positive pregnancy test. I was so happy for them

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<v Speaker 1>when this post popped up. It was a really special moment,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly knowing just what they'd been through and how special

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<v Speaker 1>it was for them. And while most of Georgie's followers

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<v Speaker 1>were ecstatic for her, one follower wrote, wait, so when

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<v Speaker 1>you post in December crying in your car that you

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<v Speaker 1>weren't pregnant, you actually were pregnant, whilst others chimed in

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<v Speaker 1>saying she must have been lying. My god, I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what would bring you to write something like

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<v Speaker 1>that on somebody's pregnancy announcement. And I was really happy

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<v Speaker 1>because Georgie came online and she shut down the allegations

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<v Speaker 1>straight away.

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<v Speaker 2>So she shared a.

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<v Speaker 1>Screenshot of the comment to her Instagram story and wrote,

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<v Speaker 1>also to those trying to catch me out for posting

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<v Speaker 1>our infertility journey and accusing me of lying or whatever, Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>please start being obsessed with your own life, not mine.

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<v Speaker 1>But in all seriousness, here are the receipts because you

0:28:34.600 --> 0:28:37.080
<v Speaker 1>seemed really worried about it. So she went on to

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<v Speaker 1>share the receipts, which were screenshots of the dates the

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<v Speaker 1>content was taken, and it turns out that the real

0:28:42.680 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 1>she shared about her fertility journey was uploaded on the

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<v Speaker 1>third of December, while she took the pregnancy test on

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<v Speaker 1>the eleventh of December. So she went on to write, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. What a crazy miracle that I finally

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<v Speaker 1>posted about our infertility after twelve months then got pregnant

0:28:58.560 --> 0:29:02.400
<v Speaker 1>that month. Talk about the energy of divine timing, surrender,

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<v Speaker 1>and detachment. I also understand that maybe triggering if you're

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<v Speaker 1>going through your own stuff, but surely you can just

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:11.720
<v Speaker 1>be happy for a family finally getting their miracle baby.

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<v Speaker 1>She then wanted to say that she understands that people

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<v Speaker 1>are curious and she will share more on her podcast

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 1>and YouTube about their journey and offered people to DM

0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:22.880
<v Speaker 1>her if they had any questions. It is really sad

0:29:22.920 --> 0:29:26.280
<v Speaker 1>because often when influencers put up their pregnancy announcements, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people do get triggered who are going through

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<v Speaker 1>these fertility journeys, and you can see why people lash out,

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<v Speaker 1>But in this instance, it just seems really unfair because

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<v Speaker 1>all of her followers knew she had struggled previously.

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<v Speaker 2>To conceive it.

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<v Speaker 1>Seems like a bit of misplaced digression in some instances,

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<v Speaker 1>And I just think that we really need to encourage

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<v Speaker 1>people to speak openly about their fertility struggles. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>really concerning to me that people are attacking a woman

0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:55.520
<v Speaker 1>over being vulnerable about her fertility journey.

0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:56.200
<v Speaker 2>Like trying to catch her out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like, why are we trying to catch someone out?

0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:00.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, she was vulnerable enough to open up about

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<v Speaker 1>it and on numerous occasions and share about her miscarriage

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<v Speaker 1>and share about her struggles. And then we say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>hold in a second, you were lying to us the

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<v Speaker 1>whole time, even if she did post when she knew

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<v Speaker 1>that she was pregnant, which isn't the case.

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<v Speaker 2>Who fucking cares well.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also like, can we just give her the benefit

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<v Speaker 1>of the doubt, because, I mean, the accusation seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be that she's using this her infertility struggles to get

0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 1>views or lives. Dog Stevenson doesn't need to do that.

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 1>That's not really what her content's about any more. Her

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:34.520
<v Speaker 1>content is more about business and also about her courses

0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:38.040
<v Speaker 1>and that kind of thing. She doesn't need that content

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<v Speaker 1>to do well. I just think people need to stop

0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:42.680
<v Speaker 1>being dickheads online, like there should just be a no

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<v Speaker 1>dickhead rule in the comment section, which I suppose there

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<v Speaker 1>probably wouldn't be much engagement online anymore. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>that is all we have time for today. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for joining us for this episode. If you

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<v Speaker 1>the Adelaide Plains.

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