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Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda in the morning. Sam, Well, there's no.

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Speaker 2: Doubt COVID nineteen is changing the way we live, which

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Speaker 2: is why it's more important than ever to monitor how

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Speaker 2: we're feeling through all these changes and to recognize it's

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Speaker 2: okay to not be okay with the impact of the

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Speaker 2: social and economic changes that we're all going through and

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Speaker 2: will continue to go through. There are services to help

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Speaker 2: you look after your mental health. And here to tell

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Speaker 2: us more, as the chairwoman of the National Mental Health Commission,

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Speaker 2: it's Lucy Brogged and Lucy.

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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, amanday you.

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Speaker 3: I was excited to have you on the show again,

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Speaker 3: not since Jay bro your husband swung by with your muffins.

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Speaker 2: I knew he'd mentioned the muffins. He used to love

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Speaker 2: your muffins.

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Speaker 3: We had an incident with one of the muffins. One

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Speaker 3: of them was undercooked to something, but it was that's

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Speaker 3: not your fault, Lucy's popular. That's where the savory muffin.

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Speaker 2: It's obviously Lucy still isn't suffering from those comments say

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Speaker 2: if it was yesterday.

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Speaker 3: But it's just all it is is feedback, Lucy, It's Chris.

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Speaker 1: I can take it all. Good.

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Speaker 2: Well, Lucy. This isn't just a case of hey, we

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Speaker 2: hope you're feeling okay. There are very practical ways that

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Speaker 2: people can get help, and there's been an injection of

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Speaker 2: funds into this.

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Speaker 1: Is that right. Look, we've had a big injection of

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Speaker 1: funds into this. The Commonwealth invested a lot to build

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Speaker 1: a telehealth platform so people can now see their doctors

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Speaker 1: and health workers by telehealth. But they've also given the

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Speaker 1: mental health sector extra money to really allow people in

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Speaker 1: the sector to help each other and to communicate with

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Speaker 1: the community. But it is okay not to be okay,

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Speaker 1: but here are ways to help you get through this

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Speaker 2: And how do people find out what they can do?

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Speaker 2: Because if someone's listening to this and they're having a

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Speaker 1: Look, the starting point for someone that's really struggling is

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Speaker 1: always the GP or if you're worried about someone, directing

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Speaker 1: really try and help people stay safe and at home

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Speaker 1: but psychologically safe at home. We recommend that people look

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Speaker 1: at the head to health website. That's a really easy

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Speaker 1: one head to health dot gov dot au and to

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Speaker 1: reach out to groups like Lifeline and others if they

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Speaker 1: really need someone to talk to. But there are things

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Speaker 1: that we can all do, just little things every day.

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Speaker 1: We can follow the facts. Don't get bogged down in

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Speaker 1: the Facebook version of COVID. Really try and pick your

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Speaker 1: source of information, make sure it's reliable and follow it.

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Speaker 1: Try and talk to people. Don't just text, but really

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Speaker 1: talk to people. Try and have a laugh. You know,

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Speaker 1: listening to you guys this morning is fantastic for mental health.

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Speaker 1: To have that laugh, get a smile on your face,

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Speaker 1: work your routine out. We're now back at school. Kids

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Speaker 1: are back at school. In inverted commas, what's the new

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Speaker 1: routine for the household going to look like this week

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Speaker 3: It's really having one thought at a at a time.

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Speaker 3: Isn't it really just living in the moment of them?

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Speaker 1: things two and three weeks away. We can't do that.

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Speaker 1: We don't know what two and three weeks looks like.

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Speaker 1: Let's just get through today to the end of the

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Speaker 2: Great I imagine that with the government, the New South

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Speaker 2: have leave you a lot of that anxiety, won't it.

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Speaker 1: Look when we've realized I think all of us how

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Speaker 1: I think Friday is going to be a very exciting

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Speaker 1: It's like looking forward to a children's birthday party.

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Speaker 3: But don't touch your friends. Don't touch you, don't touch

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Speaker 2: We still have to socially distance, don't We can have

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Speaker 1: We can have them in our homes, we can see them,

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Speaker 2: We spoke to make Deshabanski earlier in the week, and

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Speaker 2: about some days it is really hard, and there's absolutely

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Speaker 2: kind of what this is about too, Isn't it that

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Speaker 2: you don't have to think that you're having mental health

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, it is really hard, you know. I know as

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Speaker 1: every morning I'm thinking about what's the right choices to

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Speaker 1: in uncertain times, and sometimes you've just got to say,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to help you out there, Lucy bake sweet muffin,

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Speaker 3: not savory ones.

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Speaker 2: There you go stay in your wheelhouse and no one's

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Speaker 2: complained apart from a certain Brendan Jones.

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Speaker 3: It's not complained at all. Everyone so triggered these days.

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Speaker 3: It's just feedback, okay, it's a little bit of feed

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Speaker 3: Lucy understands. Lucy, it's always great to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us on the show.

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Speaker 1: Thank you and Lily. Everybody stay safe. We all us

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Speaker 1: together and we will come out the other side stronger

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Speaker 1: and better.

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Speaker 3: Good Hi to Jay bro for us. Lucy Brugden there,

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Speaker 3: Jonesy and Amanda in the morning at one point seven