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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the

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Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm

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Speaker 1: Amy Torber and coming up on today's show, Abby Chatfield

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Speaker 1: and Matt Agneu reunite to drop bombshells about their time

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Speaker 1: on The Bachelor. Steph Claire Smith hits back at a

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Speaker 1: follower who mum shamed her, Travis Kelsey signs a one

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Speaker 1: hundred million dollar podcast deal, and our highs and lows

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Speaker 1: of the week. But first, Mitch Orville and Chloe Zepp

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Speaker 1: have caused panic after spotting what they believed to be

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Speaker 1: crocodiles swimming in Corumbin Creek at the Gold Coast. Yeah, so, Chloe,

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Speaker 1: Mitch and their kids were on their way to breakfast

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Speaker 1: when they spotted what they believed to be two crocodiles

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Speaker 1: swimming in the creek. Now they were in disbelief, so

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Speaker 1: they shared a series of stories to their Instagram. Here's

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Speaker 1: what Chloe said. Hell were at crummin there's a couping

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Speaker 1: crocodile in the water. I'm not shitting here. There's the

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Speaker 1: first one and now there's a second one right there. Okay,

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Speaker 1: what shut up? This comes off the back of them

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Speaker 1: being very close to crocodiles in Dah when I remember. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So a couple of months ago they were slammed because

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Speaker 1: Mitch shared a video showing him and his son Artie,

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Speaker 1: who I think is two or three, walking very close

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Speaker 1: to a crocodile and he was just filming the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: This was whilst they were holidaying in the Northern Territory. Well,

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Speaker 1: the creek where the couple spotted the crocodiles on the

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Speaker 1: Gold Coast is near a very busy highway, but it

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Speaker 1: leads to Pelican Point where the Corumban Wildlife Sanctuary is

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Speaker 1: and this sanctuary is home to Boss Hog, who is

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Speaker 1: the resident of Male's Saltwater croc who was almost five

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Speaker 1: meters in length and he also weighs eight hundred killers.

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Speaker 1: That is crazy. Now, boss hogs claim to fame is

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Speaker 1: that before being taken to the sanctuary, he actually killed

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Speaker 1: a stud bull which was worth ten thousand dollars. So

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Speaker 1: if he was on the loose, that would cause a

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Speaker 1: lot of problems. And this is why the couple believe,

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Speaker 1: well maybe this is a real crocodile. Now they'd decided

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Speaker 1: to ask their followers do you think that this is

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Speaker 1: a crocodile on the Gold Coast? Is this boss hog? Yes?

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Speaker 1: And ninety four percent of their followers responded saying that

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Speaker 1: they were convinced it was a crocodile, whilst a few

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Speaker 1: people wrote in saying they think it's a fake. Now.

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Speaker 1: Chloe returned to Instagram to reveal that the crocodiles were

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Speaker 1: in fact statues, So the couple contacted the sanctuary, who

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Speaker 1: replied saying, Hi, Chloe, I have asked our reptile and

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Speaker 1: amphibian's wildlife supervisor. Apparently there are fake crocs and sharks

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Speaker 1: out in that creek and have been placed in there

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Speaker 1: for a long time. I wasn't aware until I asked

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Speaker 1: the supervisor, so apologies for any confusion. I must say

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Speaker 1: I feel quite silly now. Chloe shared that and added

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Speaker 1: that she also felt silly because she had no idea

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Speaker 1: that these were statues. This seems like a pretty stupid

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Speaker 1: idea to have such realistic statues. I mean, I wonder

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Speaker 1: how many people have actually raised the alarm and called

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Speaker 1: into this sanctuary. Well, particularly because the Gold Coast would

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Speaker 1: be full of international tourists and you know, Australia is

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Speaker 1: known as having killer sharks and crocodiles. They would be

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Speaker 1: out of their mind when spotting these.

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Speaker 2: I took my toddler to the gym and here's what happened.

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Speaker 1: Fitness mogul Steph Claire Smith has hit back at a

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Speaker 1: follower who mum shamed her for taking her son to

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Speaker 1: the gym during their day together. Now, so how did

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Speaker 1: this all unfold? Well, Steph is actually solo parenting at

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Speaker 1: the moment because her husband, Josh Miller, is away in Europe.

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Speaker 1: It looks like he's on a bit of a boy's trip.

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Speaker 1: So he's been away for the past couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: He was in I Beat the last week. He's now

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Speaker 1: been spending time on a yacht in Croatia. It's not

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Speaker 1: exactly clear why he's there. I don't know if this

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Speaker 1: is for business or just for pleasure. It looks like

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Speaker 1: he's there with friends. Pretty nice of Steph to let

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Speaker 1: him go over there. I don't know if I would

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Speaker 1: be that nice and let my husband go to Europe

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Speaker 1: without me, But of boys true noll. They have an

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Speaker 1: interesting dynamic because because when their son, Harvey was born,

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Speaker 1: they decided that Josh would quit his job and be

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Speaker 1: a full time stay at home dad while Steph would

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Speaker 1: run her fitness empire kick and I have personally really

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Speaker 1: loved seeing this style of parenting being platform because we

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Speaker 1: don't often see it, and I always hate that the

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Speaker 1: assumption generally is that the woman should be the one

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Speaker 1: taking time away from her career to raise a child.

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Speaker 1: It just seems like that that is the default thought

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Speaker 1: And there are so many households out there where the

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Speaker 1: woman is earning more than her male partner. So why

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Speaker 1: shouldn't we be the ones that are actually going back

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Speaker 1: to work if we choose to. Yeah, it makes more

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Speaker 1: on in that role. Now, Steph has been holding down

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday, she shared a video of her taking her toddler,

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Speaker 1: Harvey to the gym.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: In the vision, it showed him sitting in the corner

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Speaker 1: with headphones on and his eyes iPad on his lap

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Speaker 1: with a lunch box full of snacks while Steph did

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Speaker 1: a strength session, and in the video she said she

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Speaker 1: knows not every gym would allow this, but it's her

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Speaker 1: day with Harvey and she's craving a strength workout. She

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Speaker 1: also prefaced that she's never tried this before, so she

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Speaker 1: didn't know what to expect now. Steph told her followers

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Speaker 1: that she was following one of Kick's workouts, so she

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Speaker 1: knew she'd be done in around thirty minutes, and she

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Speaker 1: said Harvey was a champion and that he didn't move

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Speaker 1: some of the gym equipment. When I went to the

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Speaker 1: comments section, the majority of comments were really positive. A

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Speaker 1: lot of parents were saying that Steph was setting a

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Speaker 1: wonderful example for Harvey and that it's really important for

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Speaker 1: kids to see their parents working out and looking after themselves. However,

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Speaker 1: there was one follower who wasn't impressed, so she wrote

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Speaker 1: underneath the post, if it was your day with him,

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Speaker 1: why did you need to go to the gym? Wouldn't

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Speaker 1: you want to do fun things with him? I usually

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Speaker 1: love what you'd do, but this is weird now. That

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Speaker 1: follower then replied to other people's comments saying maybe she

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Speaker 1: should take him to the beach or the playground now.

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Speaker 1: Seth hit back at the follower by sharing her post,

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Speaker 1: which included her user name and said this.

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Speaker 2: Number one, I was in the gym for a total

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Speaker 2: of like forty minutes for that video that I shared.

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Speaker 2: That's forty minutes in an entire day with my son.

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Speaker 2: And not only that, but my health is super important

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Speaker 2: for the way that I show up as a mum,

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Speaker 2: for the way that I show up with him.

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Speaker 1: For me to be able to play with.

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Speaker 2: Him, keep up with him, I need to be training

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Speaker 2: personally and for me sometimes that means doing it with him,

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Speaker 2: because if I don't do it with him, I'm sacrificing

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Speaker 2: time with him. So as a working mum, often I'm

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Speaker 2: doing pilates right in front of him on the couch

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Speaker 2: while he's watching TV or he's happy. Right, We're both happy.

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Speaker 2: And that day was the first time I ever tried

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Speaker 2: anything like that, like taking him to the gym. So

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Speaker 2: sure it wasn't like super quality time with him. I

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Speaker 2: mean I had an iPad in front of the kid.

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Speaker 2: But me filling up my cup is super important and

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Speaker 2: I have learned that from the years now three years

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Speaker 2: of being his mum, I have learned that when I

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Speaker 2: have not prioritized time for myself and time for my health,

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Speaker 2: I do not show up as.

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Speaker 1: The best muma for him.

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Speaker 2: US mums already questioned whether or not we're spending enough

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Speaker 2: quality time with our children.

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Speaker 3: We don't need you to.

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Speaker 1: The Blue Tick Brigade was out enforced to support Steph.

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Speaker 1: Olivia Rodgers wrote, well, said Stephie, you're an amazing mum

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Speaker 1: and role model to your little man. M Davies wrote louder,

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Speaker 1: you're incredible. Well, Simona Anderson said absolutely love this. The

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Speaker 1: general public also seemed to be on Steph's side. A

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Speaker 1: lot of mums were weighing in saying that they feel

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Speaker 1: a lot of guilt when they take time for themselves

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Speaker 1: and why shouldn't they be allowed to which I completely agree.

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Speaker 1: This whole situation made me angry because when Steph was

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Speaker 1: she was doing some work with Kick Now. She copped

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Speaker 1: a lot of criticism, with people saying how dare you

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Speaker 1: be away from your son for work? Yet her husband

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Speaker 1: Josh literally appears to be living it up on a

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Speaker 1: No one even knows the guys away. Do you know what,

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Speaker 1: when I first saw the video, I did think, oh,

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Speaker 1: that's a bit peculiar to bring your son to the gym,

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Speaker 1: because I know most gyms have age limits. I think

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Speaker 1: this didn't look like one of those big franchises. It

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Speaker 1: My only concern about that was there was a lot

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Speaker 1: I thought further into it, and I thought, you know what,

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Speaker 1: why can't Steph go to the gym. I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of the judgment from this woman and other people

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Speaker 1: that they judged Steph and thought, Wow, that's really selfish

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Speaker 1: and perhaps maybe it's vain because you're putting your needs

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Speaker 1: of going to the gym above your child. You're so right, Amy,

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people view working out and

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Speaker 1: looking after yourself almost as a privilege and not something

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Speaker 1: of you for putting yourself before your child. But for her,

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Speaker 1: she was saying that in order to be the best

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Speaker 1: mum possible, she's in a better mind frame when she

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Speaker 1: does work out and when she gets her in doorphins going,

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Speaker 1: Which is quite interesting because the day before she posted

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Speaker 1: this video, she had shared that Harvey was really difficult

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Speaker 1: the night before she had to put him to bed

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Speaker 1: with no clothes on. He refused to put his pajamas on,

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Speaker 1: and she said she felt really guilty, didn't sheep yelling

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Speaker 1: said to her, I feel scared. And I actually think

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Speaker 1: it's quite brave of her to be sharing those moments

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Speaker 1: because there's so many other moms that would have had

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Speaker 1: those times when they've gone absolutely apeshit at their child,

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Speaker 1: like yelled at them felt guilty about it. But I

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Speaker 1: almost think because she is such an open book, that's

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Speaker 1: why there's been this reaction from this follower, because they've

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Speaker 1: been like, well, clearly you're not doing a good enough job.

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Speaker 1: I think as well, because Steph was spooking one of

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Speaker 1: the kick workouts in the video. I think that's why

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Speaker 1: there was a bit of judgment there. But what's the

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Speaker 1: difference if Steph was to do a workout at home

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Speaker 1: Five years after Matt Agnew dramatically dumped Abby Chatfield on

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Speaker 1: But don't you think it was also really good timing

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Speaker 1: other out with their mental health struggles. But again they

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Speaker 1: said that they had to do this in private because

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Speaker 1: if the paps caught them, let's say, at a cafe,

435
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,400
Speaker 1: and they were hugging each other or consoling or one

436
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,879
Speaker 1: of them was crying, it would be very easy to

437
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 1: build a fake narrative around that, and say oh, they're

438
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 1: back together and blow it up into a huge thing.

439
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 1: Now everyone seemed to be shipping this Abby and Matt friendship,

440
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 1: so under the promo, one follower wrote probably the healthiest

441
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 1: relationship to come from a franchise, whilst another said you

442
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 1: two if only adults acted as mature as this. They

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Speaker 1: did manage to drop a couple of other bombshells during

444
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Speaker 1: this episode. So Abby revealed that some of the women

445
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Speaker 1: in the house tried to force her to reveal to

446
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Speaker 1: Matt that she was bisexual, and also that she had

447
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Speaker 1: an abortion. So Abby said that she was treating the

448
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 1: whole mansion experience a bit like a sleepover, So she

449
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,199
Speaker 1: was opening up to the girls about the fact that

450
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Speaker 1: she'd previously slept with a woman, about her abortion, and

451
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Speaker 1: also she said that well she laughs now. She said,

452
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Speaker 1: it's quite funny because she said that one of the

453
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Speaker 1: camera men who now works on f Boy Island vividly

454
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 1: remembers her drawing pictures of butt plugs for some of

455
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 1: the women, and she was trying to educate them on

456
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Speaker 1: which ones would suit them. Can you imagine I've you

457
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 1: showing up in casting and may would have been like

458
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 1: this is like every producer's dream. Yeah, this girl is fantastic. Well, also,

459
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Speaker 1: I remember in our interview with her, she also revealed

460
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Speaker 1: that at one stage during their time in the mansion,

461
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 1: all of the girls compared their vaginas, so clearly they

462
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Speaker 1: were all pretty open about talking about stuff. But Abby

463
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 1: said that one of the girls confronted her in the

464
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Speaker 1: pantry in the kitchen and told her she must tell

465
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Speaker 1: Matt about her sexuality. But if you think about it,

466
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Speaker 1: remember back in the day on The Bachelor, there were

467
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 1: so many subplots about the women's sexuality because after Brook Blurton. Yeah,

468
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 1: but there was also remember it was was that Tiffany

469
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 1: and oh Tiffany and one of the other contestants got

470
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 1: together and it was like the biggest story ever. It

471
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Speaker 1: was as if no one had ever heard of a

472
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Speaker 1: lesbian couple before. What was big news. Well, Abby said

473
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Speaker 1: that one of the reasons she didn't want to tell

474
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Speaker 1: Matt about this on camera was one because she didn't

475
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Speaker 1: think it was a big deal, and two because Brooke

476
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Speaker 1: Blurton had faced a lot of scrutiny for coming out

477
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 1: as by and she thought, well, I don't want to

478
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Speaker 1: have to deal with all of that. Yeah, now let's

479
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Speaker 1: listen to what Abby said about that confrontation in the pantry.

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Speaker 3: One time, one of the girls cornered me into the

481
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Speaker 3: butler's pantry and was like, you have to tell him,

482
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Speaker 3: And I was like, why, why is any of his business?

483
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 3: Who's pussy have eaten?

484
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Speaker 4: Like?

485
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Speaker 3: I was like, I'll tell him if we end up together, Like,

486
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Speaker 3: but it's not a confession. He doesn't need to know

487
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 3: because I knew you wouldn't care because we've spoken about politics.

488
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Speaker 3: I was like, he's left wing. Oh my kid doesn't

489
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 3: give a fuck. What are you guys talking about? And

490
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,439
Speaker 3: they all thought you were some conservative.

491
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Speaker 5: Religious stage like other militantist And he's conservative religious, he

492
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 5: needs to know about abortions and Bi, I couldn't give

493
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Speaker 5: a fuck like you.

494
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Speaker 1: It's so well how to think that that even went on,

495
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Speaker 1: and that the women in the house thought this was

496
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Speaker 1: appropriate to bring up with her. It was quite interesting

497
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: to hear Matt's take on it and what was happening

498
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 1: on his side of things, because he said that a

499
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Speaker 1: lot of the producers were trying to guide him into

500
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Speaker 1: asking Abbey specific questions about kids and her sexuality.

501
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Speaker 3: Here's what he said, and then they'd be like, Abby

502
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 3: doesn't want kids, and no one want to ever tell

503
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,479
Speaker 3: you that I had an abortion. But that was like

504
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 3: that conversation happened, and the next day it was on

505
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Speaker 3: our date, and you're getting encouraged to ask me these questions,

506
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Speaker 3: as it were, You're so uncomfortable and.

507
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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's this kind of like, oh you need to

508
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 4: They're trying to guide me down this path of asking

509
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Speaker 4: specific questions. I'm like, what what are you trying to

510
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 4: get me to do here? And it was, Yeah, there's

511
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 4: this kind of puppeteering almost, of creating sorts. It's authentic

512
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,719
Speaker 4: and organic, but it's like not really, you're trying to

513
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 4: drive particular conversations and what onlong?

514
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is so disgusting, especially trying to guide her

515
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Speaker 1: to talk about her abortion. I mean, would they even

516
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Speaker 1: add the conversation on the Channel ten in that time

517
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Speaker 1: slot as well? And I just don't understand why it's

518
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Speaker 1: relevant at all. Matt said when he watched the show,

519
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 1: it was really frustrating to see how Abby was edited,

520
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 1: because he said that they'd had so many interesting conversations

521
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 1: with Substance about feminism and politics, and of course all

522
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Speaker 1: of those got cut out. I would highly recommend checking

523
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Speaker 1: out this interview. There are two parts to it. It's

524
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Speaker 1: a very interesting to see this chemistry they still have,

525
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: but then the fact that it's clear that they're just friends.

526
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Speaker 1: I saw you or the snippet on Abby's Instagram. I

527
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: was just looking at the pair and I thought he

528
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 1: could not be more polar opposite to her current boyfriend

529
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Speaker 1: Adam Hyde. I just can't imagine Abby being with anybody

530
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Speaker 1: but him. Travis Kelcey and his brother Jason have signed

531
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Speaker 1: a huge one hundred million dollar podcast deal with Amazon.

532
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: It is a huge deal for the brothers, that is

533
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 1: US dollars as well. Now, the three year deal grants

534
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 1: Amazon's podcast company Wondering, the exclusive multi media rights to

535
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: their new Heights podcast. It's crazy to think that Travis

536
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Speaker 1: and Jason only released his podcast in twenty twenty two,

537
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: and it started off as a sports podcast, but it

538
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: really has become a cultural phenomenon, especially since Travis started

539
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: dating Taylor. I see this popping up on my TikTok

540
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 1: on my Facebook all well, it's also the place where

541
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Speaker 1: he announced his intentions with Taylor Swift because he told

542
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Speaker 1: his brother how he'd made a bracelet for her with

543
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Speaker 1: his phone number on it. He didn't get a chance

544
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Speaker 1: to give it to her. Yeah, with that podcast clip

545
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: when viral, I would love to see how many new

546
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: followers the podcast has got since the whole Taylor Swift effect.

547
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Speaker 1: It did win Podcast of the Year at the twenty

548
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Speaker 1: twenty four iHeart Podcast Awards. What happens in this situation

549
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Speaker 1: if Taylor Swift and your boyfriend signs a one hundred

550
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Speaker 1: million dollar deal, like, you know, seeing as she's a billionaire,

551
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: is it sort of like try harder? That's not that good.

552
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: It's still a lot of money. I mean, even a

553
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: lot of people would think, oh, well, Travis and Jason

554
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: must be earning a lot of money because they played

555
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: for the NFL. But if you look at Travis's career

556
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Speaker 1: for the past couple of years, he's been earning around

557
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 1: fourteen million dollars a year, So this is a huge deal. Now,

558
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Speaker 1: when I saw the one hundred million dollars, I thought, fuck,

559
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: that is huge. But if you break it down, it's

560
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Speaker 1: sixteen million dollars a year. That's such a small job.

561
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it is, but it's interesting that he's

562
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: making the same off the podcast. Pretty much as he

563
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: is off his NFL career side project for them that

564
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: they you know, they do this at their houses for fun, like, hey, hey,

565
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: we have a podcast that's a lot of what I

566
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: record an episode a week. Yeah, that's a huge deal.

567
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 1: They only started this podcast two years ago. And this

568
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: news comes off the back of Call Her Daddy podcast

569
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Speaker 1: host Alex Cooper's one hundred and twenty five million dollar

570
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 1: deal with Serious exempt I mean, if you compare that,

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Speaker 1: that's also a three year deal. She's earning one hundred

572
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 1: and twenty five million dollars. She's been in the podcast

573
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 1: game a lot longer than the Kelsey brothers.

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Speaker 4: Oh.

575
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Speaker 1: I was shocked to hear that they were earning that much.

576
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Speaker 1: I just think it's interesting when you break it down

577
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: to compare it to his NFL career. Surely wondering knows

578
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: something that we don't know, is Taylor Swift going to

579
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Speaker 1: be a guest on this podcast because the amount of

580
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: people that are going to tune in to hear their

581
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: chemistry together on a podcast is huge and probably worth

582
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: one hundred million. Well, they've seen rumors, I mean that's

583
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: been rumors for months and months about Travis Kelsey proposing.

584
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: I mean, think about that, even if Taylor isn't on it,

585
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: just the fact he'd be dropping details about their upcoming wedding.

586
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Speaker 1: That's a huge thing for Wandery. Did you know, in

587
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: relation to Alex Cooper that she has a podcast network

588
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: called the Unwell Network. Yeah, it's her brand. She has

589
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: Unwell clothing as well. Yeah, but on her podcast network

590
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: she has a number of influencer podcasts. One of those

591
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,239
Speaker 1: is Alex Earl's hot Mess podcast. Yes. Yeah, so this

592
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: was actually part of the one hundred and twenty five

593
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: million dollar deal that these podcasts would also be signed

594
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: over to the Serious XM network. So if you kind

595
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Speaker 1: of compared the two deals, the Kelsey Brothers are doing

596
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Speaker 1: pretty well. This is yet another big blow for Spotify because,

597
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: according to reports, they are having to get rid of

598
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: staff to make up for the more than one billion

599
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: dollars that they've spent on podcasting, much of which went

600
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Speaker 1: towards celebrity deals. So if you think about the money

601
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: that they threw at Harry and Meghan, and that really

602
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: didn't substantiate into much. A lot of these podcasts that

603
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,239
Speaker 1: they put money towards, the podcast never actually materialized and

604
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: They also a a number of podcast studios that later

605
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: shut down. So it's kind of sad because a few

606
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: years ago it seemed like Spotify was this huge powerhouse

607
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: in the podcasting industry, but they've really been rocked by

608
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: a number of deals which hasn't seemed to have gone

609
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Speaker 1: their way. Let's get into our highs and lows of

610
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Speaker 1: the week now. My low is very fresh and I'm

611
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,479
Speaker 1: still dealing with the aftermath of it. So basically, last night,

612
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Speaker 1: I had a beautiful dinner with you, Sophie and a

613
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Speaker 1: friend heading home and I was parked at the red

614
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Speaker 1: light just about what like five minutes away from my house,

615
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: and an eighteen year old PEA player decided to rear

616
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Speaker 1: end my brand new car. I was on the phone

617
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Speaker 1: to you when this happened. I just said, fuck hands free.

618
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Speaker 1: I must add I was not in the wrong, no,

619
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Speaker 1: I just was like, are you kidding? Like I specifically

620
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:56,719
Speaker 1: bought a white car for the safety element, and obviously

621
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Speaker 1: this guy was not paying any attention. Thankfully, he did

622
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Speaker 1: stop and he gave me his details, and dealing with

623
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: that today, it's been quite a nightmare, and thank god

624
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: no one was injured as well. Yeah, because he was

625
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: heading along. He claims that he thought the light was

626
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: turning green. I don't know why he thought all the

627
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: cars were parked there, but he did slow down, so

628
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: it wasn't a huge hit. It could have been a

629
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Speaker 1: lot worse. What's your high of the week? Well, my

630
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: high in the week was I mentioned last week on

631
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: the podcast. I was heading to Melbourne for a wedding

632
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: and I actually had the most amazing experience On Sunday,

633
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: A friend and I actually went along to the Ritz Carlton.

634
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: I've got to add I was wearing the most inappropriate

635
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,959
Speaker 1: clothes to go to the Ritz Carlton. I was in

636
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: like a jagged hoodie and tights. I didn't realize we

637
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: were going there, but they have the best view of

638
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: the cityscape in Melbourne. It was right on the top.

639
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: It's like a full three sixty degree view of the

640
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: city and the most amazing rainbow came out. Now I

641
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: think I've got the dates wrong. It was actually on Saturday.

642
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: Anyone who was in Melbourne on Saturday will remember this rainbow.

643
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: I witnessed it from the most incredible view. It looked

644
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: like it was going through buildings. My low of the

645
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: week is that we hosted Father's Day at my house

646
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: and it was so nice. We had Brownon's family over.

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Speaker 1: But the reason it's low is because I made a

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Speaker 1: Mexican corn salad and it wasn't really a hit, so

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. Wait, so what was in the corn

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Speaker 1: salad besides corn? So it's there were like four corn

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Speaker 1: on the cobs, which you know, you get the knife

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Speaker 1: and cut them off, you fry them, You put butter.

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Speaker 1: Then there's spring onion beta red onion. Fetter was not

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Speaker 1: parsley coriander. I'm trying to think, what is the herb

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Speaker 1: that everyone hates coriander. Then there's sour cream and mayonnaise, salt,

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Speaker 1: and pepper. I fucking had some the night before. I

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Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, this is delicious. It kind

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Speaker 1: of sounds a bit like a cob loaf dip without

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Speaker 1: so much of the cream, cheese where everything. Yeah. Where

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Speaker 1: I went wrong though, was I put it in the

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Speaker 1: fridge overnight and I think that some of the moisture

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Speaker 1: came out of it, so it looked a bit clumpy. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: my brother in law and my husband are not fans

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Speaker 1: of corn. Like I know that. My husband he never

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Speaker 1: eats salad, so I knew he wouldn't even have any

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Speaker 1: who doesn't like corn. Fucking love corn. Let's put have

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Speaker 1: a pole who likes corn. My god, now I'm just

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Speaker 1: getting that viral TikTok of that kid. I really like,

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Speaker 1: I really like corn. Yeah. Anyway, so we put all

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Speaker 1: of the salad. We had a barbie. You put everything

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Speaker 1: out on the table. My brother in law says, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, I'm sorry, I cannot eat that. That literally

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Speaker 1: looks like my dog Ziggy's pooh. And that is because

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Speaker 1: they have recently been giving their dog corn. So not

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Speaker 1: this sort of admiration, you know, the praise that you

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Speaker 1: were hoping by making this handmade sad. But then it

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Speaker 1: made me even off it, Like I had to laugh because,

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Speaker 1: to be fair to him, it was spot on. It

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Speaker 1: looked exactly like the dog's pooh. We had seen it

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Speaker 1: the week before, and then we're having laugh about it.

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Speaker 1: No one's going to be making this salad now. I

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Speaker 1: can't imagine anyone slipping into our DMS asking.

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Speaker 5: Him to it.

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Speaker 1: Put me off it. Well, what's your high? My high

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Speaker 1: of the week is that I went on this lovely

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Speaker 1: solo shopping trip. Usually we go together, or I go

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Speaker 1: with my mum. But I went by myself, and it

688
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: was so nice because I could obviously look at whatever

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Speaker 1: I wanted to look at without any concern of what

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Speaker 1: other people wanted to look at. And I walked into

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Speaker 1: Big w and I was just overwhelmed with happiness when

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Speaker 1: I saw one of the teenage kids there literally putting

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Speaker 1: the Christmas trees up. So all of the Christmas shit

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00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: is out. But I wondered why, because it's August. They

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Speaker 1: haven't even put the Halloween stuff out yet. It's September now, well,

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Speaker 1: this was August when I saw it on the weekend,

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Speaker 1: quite possibly the earliest I've ever seen Christmas stuff out.

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Speaker 1: And but my initial thought was I should buy stuff

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00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: now because it always sells out. I wonder if people

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Speaker 1: are over Halloween stuff, because I like having a Halloween party,

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00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: but I don't then go out and buy new Halloween decorations.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't excite me the way the Christmas excites me.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't. I'm trying I get excited by it, but

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00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: it just seems like a bit of a filler holiday.

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Speaker 1: We have such an excuse this year now that we

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Speaker 1: have a nephew, because we're going to do a Christmas

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Speaker 1: light competition. So last year in the sales, we bought

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Speaker 1: a ton of lights. So this is a way to

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Speaker 1: get out post. Well I did I bought I say

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Speaker 1: a ton, you bought a ton of lights. I bought

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Speaker 1: a couple of tasteful Christmas pieces. If anyone early next

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Speaker 1: year is looking to actually go and get some bargain

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00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: Christmas lights, cheap as Chips is the place to go.

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Speaker 1: At first, I was a bit judgmental on the Christmas lights.

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, but honestly, the amount of like

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Speaker 1: really cool led huge ones they had, you know, like

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Speaker 1: the Santas or the trains or the cutout ones. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they have the cutout ones, and the cutouts are what

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Speaker 1: Dale and I needed because you have lots of lights,

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Speaker 1: but you don't have those standout pieces. Oh gosh, I

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Speaker 1: went crazy because they were all fifty percent off. I

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Speaker 1: knew not to buy too many because I feared that

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Speaker 1: they wouldn't get put up and they go to waste.

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Speaker 1: Are we to get your front yard sorted for Christmas?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: We're doing full Reno's from the front yard when it

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00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: gets a bit hotter, so hopefully we can have that

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Speaker 1: done before December because I really want my display to

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Speaker 1: be nice because we've got big bushes out the front

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Speaker 1: which would block the display. But do you know what

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Speaker 1: we should do? Every year the newspaper here in Adelaide

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Speaker 1: they do this list of amazing suburbs to check out

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Speaker 1: for Christmas lights. In our Facebook group, we should start

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Speaker 1: sharing some suburbs that are really good ones to go

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Speaker 1: and check out, because I know here in Adelaide it's

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Speaker 1: Saint Peter's their whole street. Does last Street? Is it

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Speaker 1: first street or I think it's like your first avenue

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Speaker 1: or something. It gets so confusing because they're all like

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Speaker 1: first avenue, second avenue, third avenue. Yeah. Kernlight Gardens is

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Speaker 1: also an amazing spot in Adelaide. Also Lobethal it's a

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Speaker 1: great one. Well, I think that is all we have

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Speaker 1: time for today. Thank you so much for listening to

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Speaker 1: this episode. If you have enjoyed it, could you please

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Speaker 1: Spotify for subscribers. We have an episode coming out tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: We are going to be sharing our inns and out

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Speaker 1: as well as a few recommendations. And don't forget to

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Speaker 1: listen to Last week's subscriber episode. We got some really

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Speaker 1: good feedback because we went a bit rogue and started

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Speaker 1: giving honest opinions on some very topical things like Abby

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