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Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda jam.

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Speaker 2: Nation the jerseymand of arms to the pub test reduce

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Speaker 2: speed limits for l's and p's.

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Speaker 1: Does it pass the pub test?

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Speaker 3: So if you're in a Larner driver or P one,

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Speaker 3: you can only go at ninety k's no matter what

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Speaker 3: the speed limit is. If you're a P two, you

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Speaker 3: can go one hundred k's. But if you're driving on

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Speaker 3: a road that's one hundred and ten k's, how wise

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Speaker 3: is it to be going less than everybody else? Is

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Speaker 3: that safer or is it harder for you? That's what

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Speaker 3: we're asking this morning. What do you like Brendan, you

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Speaker 3: were saying that there's no difference between say ninety and

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Speaker 3: one hundred on.

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Speaker 1: The Hume Highway on a three lane raid, No, there's not.

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Speaker 3: But if it's ninety and the spin, if you're.

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Speaker 1: In a suburban street, there's a lot of difference.

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Speaker 2: But there's been a lot of this hysteria about five

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Speaker 2: k's over the speed limit. It's about we demonized speeds

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Speaker 2: to much, but it's not about its instinctive driving.

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Speaker 3: That's does have any instinct probably.

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Speaker 1: Not probably not ready to go.

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Speaker 2: But I'm talking more specific about the major carriageways I'm

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Speaker 2: not talking about your your backstreets, your suburban.

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Speaker 3: Street, but often, like I drive to the South Coast

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Speaker 3: and they'll often be an L plater or a pea plater,

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Speaker 3: and everyone tries to get around them.

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Speaker 1: Obviously with the flow of traffic.

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Speaker 3: Is that more to Is that less safe for them

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Speaker 3: or more safe for them to be going slower? That's

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Speaker 3: what we're asking. Reduce speed limits for L plates, pea plates.

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Speaker 3: Does it pass the pub test.

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Speaker 4: I'm a truck driver and there's just one hundred k's owned,

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Speaker 4: and people are like, I don't blame them because they

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Speaker 4: don't want to speak because they're only restricted to ninety,

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Speaker 4: but it's one hundred k's owned. To get stuck behind them,

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Speaker 4: and it's usually downhill where we can actually get up

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Speaker 4: a bit of speeds. They overtakers on the hills and

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Speaker 4: then we're stuck be one them all the way downhill,

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Speaker 4: so they're like an obstruction on the road, you know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think that that's perfectly acceptable for learning

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Speaker 4: players to drive a little bit slower, because what happens

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Speaker 4: is that we start to allow them to go past.

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Speaker 4: What happens is people get frustrated behind loaners Now they

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Speaker 4: can't travel at the slee limit. So people behind you

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Speaker 4: know that you can travel it the speed limit.

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Speaker 5: And you're not.

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Speaker 4: Because you're a learner and an experience, you're going to

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Speaker 4: get more frustrated. Yeah, I think absolutely reduce the speed

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Speaker 4: limit because there's so many even now that are racing

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Speaker 4: around like it's the Indy five hundred in Sydney doing

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Speaker 4: like one hundred and sixty zones and that, so I

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Speaker 4: think ping them in a big way.

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Speaker 3: I reckon that, yes, the speed limit shouldn't be reduced

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Speaker 3: to LP platers.

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Speaker 4: They don't have the experience to cope with anything that

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Speaker 4: might go wrong like an animal runout or an accident

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Speaker 4: or rape down in front of them. They need to

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Speaker 4: build up their experience, build up their confidence gradually to

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Speaker 4: get to one hundred and ten.

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Speaker 5: I reckon the speed limits should be dropped four L

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Speaker 5: and P platers as it is dead drive recklessly and

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Speaker 5: just a point for Jonesy, he said there's no difference

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Speaker 5: between ninety or one hundred. If he's ever done a

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Speaker 5: defensive driving course, he would know there's a huge difference

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Speaker 5: between fifty and fifty five. Forget about ninety and one hundred.

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Speaker 5: The stopping distance, it increases Hello a lot.

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Speaker 1: I'm good on your Champ five.

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Speaker 2: I've done five advanced drive courses and three of them

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Speaker 2: are motorcycle things. I'm just saying the motorcycle that the

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Speaker 2: risk is higher when you ride a motorbike.

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Speaker 1: I ride a motorbike every day, But I'm just saying that.

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Speaker 2: You know, there is a hysteria about this five and

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Speaker 2: but it's hard to articulate because it's when you're out

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Speaker 2: there on the road.

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Speaker 1: You've got to you've got to drive to the conditions.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but also you have years of experience.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, and plated doesn't. Yeah. Yeah, maybe that's

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Speaker 1: the way they do it.

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Speaker 2: The government say is okay, if your five k's have

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Speaker 2: the speed limit, then you're going to get in. You know,

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Speaker 2: you could cause an accident, which is which is probably

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Speaker 2: could be true, could be true.

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Speaker 1: Food for thought, Food for thought.