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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Jonesy and Demander podcast.

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Speaker 2: The pub test top.

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Speaker 1: Test does not past the pub test, hub test test

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Speaker 1: sub test, the test doesn't pass the swift test.

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Speaker 2: Stop it, it's not helpful.

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Speaker 1: Shark culling does it pass the pub test.

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Speaker 3: The waters are pretty terrifying at the moment.

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Speaker 4: Four shark attacks in forty eight hours.

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Speaker 3: It has been horrendous.

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Speaker 4: Not not fatalities, but there have been a number of

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Speaker 4: fatalities this year and last year. Increased numbers, but some

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Speaker 4: say and scientists are saying, there's not increased numbers of sharks,

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Speaker 4: but the water's temperatures are shifting and they're bringing them

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Speaker 4: in different parts of the beach. More people are swimming,

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Speaker 4: so the population increases. Therefore people are coming in sharks.

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Speaker 1: We used to serve it up as flake. I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying we go back to those days.

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Speaker 4: That wouldn't have taken care of all the numbers. If

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Speaker 4: you think there are you know a number.

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Speaker 1: Of commercial fishermen can't hunt them any more, and recreational

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Speaker 1: fishermen can't kill.

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Speaker 4: Them anybody, but we have shark nets at many beaches.

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Speaker 4: Who was discussing the culling tony habit right to well,

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Speaker 4: he spends.

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Speaker 1: A lot of time in the water. I spent a

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Speaker 1: lot of time in the water as well. I remember

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Speaker 1: one time I was at a remote beach and I

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Speaker 1: saw a mako shark in the surf.

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Speaker 3: Are they nasties?

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Speaker 1: I think a mako or mancha not as aggressive as

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Speaker 1: a bull shark. But still I said to myself, if

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Speaker 1: you stay over there, mate, and I'll stay here, we'll

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Speaker 1: be okay. The problem is at the moment with all

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Speaker 1: the murky waterblem.

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Speaker 3: Was that sharks don't speak English.

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Speaker 1: We can't. You can't see the shark yes, and the

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Speaker 1: bull shark goes off sense. They've got incredible senses, so

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Speaker 1: they can work. You know, they'll just go and chomp

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Speaker 1: into everything. They're not necessarily man eaters. They don't want

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Speaker 1: to eat it.

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Speaker 3: If you get in the way, you're there exactly. Okay.

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Speaker 3: So do you think we should be killing culling the sharks?

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Speaker 3: Shark culling? Is it past the pub test?

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Speaker 2: Not a good idea at all.

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Speaker 5: Why are we killing the sharks for living in their

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Speaker 5: own environment? Where are they going to go? I think

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Speaker 5: we're the problem because we're commercially fishing all of their

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Speaker 5: food sources in the deepest So what are they doing.

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Speaker 5: Of course they're coming into wherever they can find some

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Speaker 5: food source and mistaken identity. Oh it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: They live in the water, we live on land. Leave

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Speaker 2: them alone. I'm very against it. Can I say that

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Speaker 2: because they've been there for over four hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: million years, it's their territory. If you go to Africa,

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Speaker 2: there is a chance you could get beaten by line.

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Speaker 2: If you enter the water, there's a chance you're going

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Speaker 2: to get beaten by shark. And if you stand on

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Speaker 2: some random train station, there's a chance you're going to

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Speaker 2: get attacked by human. So what do we do? Do

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Speaker 2: we just call everything? I think Tony Abbott should stick

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Speaker 2: to eat.

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Speaker 4: Onions and use those years of these to listen to

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Speaker 4: real servers.

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Speaker 2: The government should spend some money on drones and tag

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Speaker 2: and release. I don't agree with.

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Speaker 1: Culling shark education. That's when it comes down. The water

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Speaker 1: is dirty, don't go in and education.

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Speaker 3: Don't eat a raw onion like it's an apple.

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Speaker 1: Then's the blood it gets.

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Speaker 3: The ring of confidence