1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: In my humble opinion, although I do like to think 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: of myself as quite discerning. The Newsreader is one of 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: the best shows that has ever been on Australian television. 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: Season three starts at eight thirty on Sunday on the 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: ABC and ABC iView and we are so lucky to 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: have the wonderful star at a torf and creator Michael 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: Lucas with us this morning. 8 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 2: Good morning, morning you two. 9 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 3: What a beautiful introduction. 10 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, well we're going to start singing. Please don't go. 11 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: What a beautiful Let's not think about that yet, okay. 12 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: Synopsis The Newsreader, in case you're not after date with 13 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: It explores the personal and professional lives of the journalists 14 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: and crew in a nineteen eighties Australian newsroom. As Helen Norvel, 15 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: played by Anna trv It becomes the first female newsreader 16 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: of the ratings dominant News at six. Now full disclosure, 17 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: I started in this job in radio newsroom, but I 18 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: also worked weekends in a television newsroom and it was 19 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: the second half of the eighties. So I am here 20 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: to tell you the nastou level. The accuracy of this 21 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: show is so spot on. Michael Lucas, you do not 22 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: look old enough to have been able to get this 23 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: as spot on as it is. 24 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 4: Well, I can assure you, well, look, I was a 25 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 4: kid in the eighties. Yeah, but I certainly remember news 26 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 4: rooms of that area. I did actually do work experience 27 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 4: in a newsroom. But in nineteen ninety four, ye, a 28 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 4: bit afterwards that a lot of the you know, a 29 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 4: lot of a lot of the same people, characters and 30 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 4: situations were still occurring. 31 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 5: Then right, absolutely, mate, a lot of things got nailed, 32 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 5: and of course. 33 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: We definitely you were there as well as well. 34 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 5: While I got fired by Bill Mcinni's I think made 35 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 5: eighties technology from the right from the get go, that 36 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 5: first episode Series one with Dale answering his answer checking 37 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,559 Speaker 5: his answering machine. Did you have all kinds of people 38 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 5: out scouting and sourcing this old tech to get it? 39 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 5: How it was so on point? 40 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? Well, actually we were really cancerned about that how 41 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 4: we would get all that old analog technology. But it 42 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 4: turns out there's a lot of nerves out there that 43 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 4: have kept a lot of stuff in their garages, and 44 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 4: they're all on Reddit forums. And so you go to 45 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 4: these sort of specialized Reddit forums and you find out 46 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 4: that pretty much everything, and they've taken great pride in 47 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 4: keeping them in perfect working order, so generally we're able 48 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 4: to rig them and have them work just like they 49 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 4: did back in the day. 50 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you must be you must really believe in 51 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: and love this show, because we could have lost you 52 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: to you know, wider pastures. You're in mind Hunter, you're 53 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: in the Last of Us. You've been doing amazing things 54 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: and yet here we have you on Australian TV still 55 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: as well. 56 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 3: But i love working in Australia, and I've always tried 57 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 3: to do that. Yeah, Like, to be honest, I mean, 58 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 3: I would pick season three The news Reader over anything 59 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 3: else I've done. I've just loved it. It's just been 60 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 3: just such a joy. 61 00:02:58,320 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 4: Yeah. 62 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 3: That's quite so great, it too, because it's it's one 63 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 3: of my favorite projects. 64 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. 65 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 5: It one of those ones when you first read Helen's 66 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 5: story and you went, I've got to do this, yes, yes, yeah. 67 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it was also yeah, and it was you know, 68 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 3: Emma Freeman at that point was attached to it. We'd 69 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 3: work together before, and I loved her, and Joe Werner 70 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 3: we'd work together as well, and I loved her, and 71 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 3: Michael was it actors. When I was at NIDER we 72 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 3: did me and I don't remember. 73 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: They were just like point me to the shoulder pads. 74 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 2: I mean, yes. 75 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: The first two series cover off such big news stories. 76 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: That's the still, you know, to remind us of the 77 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: stories that all happened in the same year, like the 78 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: Challenger launch, Hailey's comment, Lindy Chamberlain's release in the Russell 79 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: Street bombing, and the AIDS crisis. That was all in 80 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: that first season, and then the second ones there was 81 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: the Hoddle Street massacre, the bi centennial celebrations, which, by 82 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: the way, I cried laughing at the the the promos 83 00:03:58,520 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: that you had to. 84 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 3: Do that I remember, but I remember so clearly and 85 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: watching them like yea, so clearly. This was just so great, Michael. 86 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: Panning across the you know, the crew singing the song 87 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: and how I think, So, what have we got in 88 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: season three, which is focuses on nineteen eighty nine. 89 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 4: Well, it's a blockbuster eighty nine. Absolutely, You've got the 90 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 4: Berlin Wall and Square, Exton Velde's oil spill Lockerbie. I 91 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 4: feel like I'm not just talking it up. I think 92 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 4: it's the best year in terms of news events out 93 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 4: of all the three seasons that we've done, and it 94 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 4: was just such a sort of big end to the 95 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 4: eighties and a real sense of turning the page of 96 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 4: history too. 97 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 98 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 5: Absolutely, there are so many huge stories there, but it 99 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 5: was things were starting to change and we were trying 100 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 5: to think what are we going to be in the nineties. 101 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 5: Did you feel that you had to change things from 102 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 5: that sort of mid eighties period to there as well 103 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 5: because our thinking started changing at that point in time. 104 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, totally. I mean, you know, there was a real 105 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 4: sense that the Cold War was ending and that had 106 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:03,239 Speaker 4: just dominated the entire decade, and also you know, fashion 107 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 4: was changing, and you'll notice if you're looking in this season, 108 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, there's computers in the newsroom all newsroom, 109 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 4: whereas back in season one they were still using sort 110 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 4: of electric typewriters. And so even in the clothes and everything, 111 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 4: we've tried to sort of just look forward a little 112 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 4: bit this time into the nineties that were just around 113 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 4: the corner. 114 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: Lockerby to this day is one of the biggest, most horrendous, 115 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: tragic stories that has ever happened. 116 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 4: Yes, it's unbelievable. I mean, a plane crash, you know, 117 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 4: on its own is just unfathomable. But a plane crash 118 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 4: into a town on you know, right on just before Christmas, 119 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 4: it's just the magnitude of it is just horrifying. 120 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: So the logis feature in this season as well. Now 121 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: what is that they say about art imitating life? And 122 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: so because I mean, Annie, you've won a LOGI for 123 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: for the role. 124 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 3: Actually we all went so we spent a couple of 125 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 3: days shooting the logis in you know, this great big 126 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 3: ballroom and you know, like that weekend we all kind 127 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 3: of came down to the actor rewards, which was very 128 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 3: metu I think for everybody in the from our show. 129 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, how was that? 130 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 5: Did you get to go in one of those silver 131 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 5: Ford LTDs that you had on the set, because that 132 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 5: was pretty cool. Well man had one of those things 133 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 5: that brought bake some memories. 134 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 4: I have to say that. 135 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 136 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 4: Weirdly the cars obviously a great deal of care is 137 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 4: taken with the cars. Yes that they are protected so carefully. 138 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 4: I remember one time being attracted by one of those 139 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 4: cars and wanting to go and sit in and take 140 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 4: a picture, and before I knew it, the owner was 141 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 4: right there, just making sure I didn't do anything wrong 142 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 4: with it because he loves that car. Protected some driving scenes. 143 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 4: She is an amazing drive. Really, no sun double necessary. 144 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 4: You can do a very fast point turn. 145 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 3: That's because my first car was like a nineteen seventy 146 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 3: eight Corona. 147 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 2: You're the quadriple threat right there. You can drive as well. 148 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 3: And a seventy seven. 149 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: Dat's in one twenty y so they said you can 150 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: drive a manual. 151 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 3: Friend of Wayne apparent both you don't want your car 152 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 3: broken into or you know, stolen, you just got to 153 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 3: get a manual exactly. 154 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 5: But you're right about those car owners, if they're on set, 155 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 5: they're more protective than the people with child stars. Ash. 156 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 4: That is sadly true, Michael. 157 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: It's the last season. I'm not quite ready to talk 158 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: about that yet. But is it because it's the last 159 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: year of the eighties, Is because you're. 160 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 4: High or there's certainly something that feels right about ending 161 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 4: at you know, at the crescendo of the eighties. It's 162 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 4: really just more of the characters, Like we had a 163 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 4: really specific idea of the kind of character arcs we 164 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 4: wanted to take Helen and Dale, and they've had a 165 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 4: big arc and this like the where they were at 166 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 4: the beginning to where they end up in just a 167 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 4: few years later. It's huge, and you know, rather than 168 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 4: trundle them along and keeping on engineering, we felt like 169 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 4: we wanted to bring them to a specific and kind 170 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 4: of cathartic conclusion that you know, hopefully would make the 171 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 4: whole the series as a whole, feel really satisfying. 172 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 5: Okay, that's a good point, now, you two. We're into 173 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 5: twenty twenty five. As we know, twenty twenty six is 174 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 5: the time that it's listed to finish, and I speak 175 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 5: of the completion of the new studios and new film 176 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 5: studios here in Perth. Can we any chance we could 177 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 5: see both of you being able to work here in 178 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 5: the West because that a new setup is going to 179 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 5: be wonderful. 180 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 4: Look, we've got a lot of over particularly working in studios. 181 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 4: I have to say that The news Reader was shot 182 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 4: almost all on location, and because it was the nineteen eighties, 183 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 4: they were the most terrible, decrepit old buildings we tried 184 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 4: to pretty up. So the notion of being in a 185 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 4: brand new, perfect gleaming person studio. 186 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 3: Very low araplanes, Yeah sounds good, not a fly path. 187 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll have a car ready for Ana. If you're 188 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 2: working over here. 189 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:00,080 Speaker 3: We. 190 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 4: Can't. 191 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: We can't let you go just without asking, you know, 192 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: talking about shows that you don't want to leave, and 193 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: the reaction to mind Hunter. There's been two seasons and 194 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: us smart Hunter fans want another one so bad, and 195 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: we're here or it might come, and then he moves 196 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: on to working on something else and he sounds. 197 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 5: A bit fickle. 198 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: And what do you think that there will be another 199 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: mind Hunter? 200 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, like, I feel like no. 201 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 3: I think we've all sort of said goodbye, but I 202 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 3: don't think anyone would say no if that if the 203 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 3: phone call came, Yeah, true, yeah, yeah, there was a 204 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 3: lot of work. That was a that was a really 205 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 3: lovely bunch to actually that show you a very different. 206 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: Vibe, another brilliant, brilliant show. 207 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 5: Speaking of a reaction, the reaction to that scene in 208 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 5: the last of Us, Tessa's final scene, well, there's no 209 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 5: way out of this. 210 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 3: She definitely isn't coming back Britain. 211 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: A miraculous comeback that will eventually now. Season three of 212 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: the Newsreader begins eight thirty Sunday on the ABC and 213 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: ABC Ivy. Thank you so much for joining us and 214 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: please give our love to that crazy William mckinner, so 215 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:11,719 Speaker 1: we could not love me. 216 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 2: We love a twenty five minute bill. 217 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: Yes, it's nuts and we love him. 218 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you very character. Yes, thanks you. It's been 219 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 2: absolute pleasure. 220 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 3: Thank you. 221 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 2: With cart waiting Sunday night, Bye bye