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Speaker 1: It's a woman Woody podcast Mini.

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Speaker 2: But when you're in a rush or just can't be

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Speaker 2: bothered listening to them blather on for half an hour.

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Speaker 1: Which was which star of this show started their relationship

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Speaker 1: with a one night stand. Now the good money is

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Speaker 1: with the Big d.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, James Vanderbeek, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: As you said, was we all know what he's getting

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Speaker 1: up to downe by that Greek.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're not fooling anyone back, But.

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Speaker 1: I think he and I remember watching Dawson's Creek a

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Speaker 1: long time ago, and but there was always like Katie

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Speaker 1: Holmes was always like hiding in their cupboard or something,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, she'd pop out and the dad would be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: what are you kids up doing here?

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Speaker 2: But then by Dawson was being seduced by James Vanderbeek

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Speaker 2: was being seduced by Michelle Michelle.

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Speaker 1: Williams, Shell Williams.

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Speaker 2: Williams all of a sudden comes on the scene and

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Speaker 2: she was a bit more provocative than a bit of

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Speaker 2: a provocator. What was the what was Katie Holmes's character kills.

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Speaker 1: Not Kitty Joey, I can tell you naming baby animals

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Speaker 1: by lamby Joey Yeah, that's saucy lamb wild. Yeah, wild

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Speaker 1: Show was wild show, but it had nothing to do

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Speaker 1: with the Big D. Caddie Holmes, Michelle Williams. It's actually

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Speaker 1: Joshua Jackson who is married to somebody who had a

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Speaker 1: first stand with a one night stand with their first

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Speaker 1: night together. Her name is Jody Truder Smith close enough perfect,

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Speaker 1: have a.

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Speaker 3: Listen to this, right, So when I first met my husband,

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Speaker 3: you know, which it was kind of you know, we

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Speaker 3: had a one night stand.

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Speaker 1: We were in a two three year one night stand. Now,

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Speaker 1: first of all, I mean, how are you going to

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Speaker 1: keep your hands off Joshua Jackson? It was a saucy guy.

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Speaker 1: Sure is a saucy guy. Yeah. So it was like

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Speaker 1: opening a bag of shmackers and telling a dog to

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Speaker 1: To get over here, Paisy. So that happened. So that

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Speaker 1: happened on a one night stand. Yeah right, they're still together,

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Speaker 1: which really does beg the question because I mean, traditionally speaking,

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Speaker 1: it's a bad idea to sleep with someone on the

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Speaker 1: first night.

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Speaker 2: Where do you stand on the topic.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it really matters, you know, I'm a

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Speaker 1: big I don't. I hate anything that has to do

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Speaker 1: with whodos or superstition. It means nothing to me. I

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Speaker 1: think if you've got a great connection with the person,

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter if you sleep to get straight up or

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Speaker 1: however long down the track. But that being said, I'm

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Speaker 1: a guy, like like, I know what guys can be like,

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Speaker 1: and I think if I was a woman, I would

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Speaker 1: be a bit careful about who I gave it up to.

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Speaker 1: Now that's very much a gender stereotype, but I have

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Speaker 1: got single friends who are guys who I would even

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Speaker 1: say to girls who are dating them, I would not

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Speaker 1: sleep with him early. And I don't know what.

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 1: That's a psychological thing for guys that's been around for

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Speaker 1: we said as well for keeping the interest in it

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Speaker 1: and keeping that alive. I think not sleeping with someone

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Speaker 1: for a long time mates obviously when it happens, like anything.

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Speaker 2: When you build a lot more special I think the

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Speaker 2: idea behind it. Then you build more of a connection

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Speaker 2: with the person before you sleep with them. The question

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Speaker 2: with them, you know, yes?

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Speaker 1: Or how drunk can you get on a first date?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: As well?

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Speaker 2: Is the other part of it better way to phrase it?

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Speaker 1: Where do you use that on this woods? So sleep

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Speaker 1: by the way thirty one six y five sleeping with

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Speaker 1: people on the first night? Is it a bad idea?

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Speaker 2: Yes? So for my current relationship, I was going into

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Speaker 2: I don't want to do that. Do what sleep? Sleep

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Speaker 1: How early on in the date probably probably like than

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Speaker 1: it shoult off really but we were like him, what

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Speaker 1: you are you going on? I will not You would

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Speaker 1: have to think again, you think I'll be sleeping with you?

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Speaker 2: No? I think I was saying things like I think

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Speaker 2: I was saying things like wearing a big chastity belt

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Speaker 2: lock on my belt and said, not getting through here. No, no, Well,

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Speaker 2: I think I said to her something like I really

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Speaker 1: That you said that on the date wild, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I just love this stuff so much.

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Speaker 2: A little bit on the date.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, Okay, So we're sitting at the table.

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Speaker 2: It was in a booth. You're in a booth. I

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Speaker 2: there was a moment where she was a twinkle and

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh wow, I really want to kiss.

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Speaker 1: And you said that out loud.

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Speaker 2: I said that, lad, like accidentally or well hard to say, Okay,

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Speaker 2: hard to say. Okay, I'd like to say accidentally, but

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Speaker 2: And then through that conversation, I then said, but you know,

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Speaker 2: but we're not tonight. We're not we're not leaving it.

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Speaker 2: And then she was like, yeah, of course I was

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Speaker 2: never going to sleep with you tonight, right, And I

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Speaker 2: I think that.

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Speaker 1: Was great that you met, that you came to that

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Speaker 2: Both didn't want to, and then we waited. But that's

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Speaker 2: just one route. Mind, the puns, unintentional, that's just one channel.

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Speaker 1: I don't talk about that night six ' five. Is

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Speaker 1: it a bad idea to sleep with some with someone

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Speaker 1: on the first night? That's great, gid an age old

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Speaker 1: question right now in the show joined the debate thirty

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Speaker 1: one O six five you want to get involved. Is

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Speaker 1: first night? I asked this before and you dodged it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever put any of that sort of music

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Speaker 1: on while things are, you know, happening in the boudoir.

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Speaker 2: For you, specifically Kylie Minogue? Yeah, no, Minogue's not to

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Speaker 1: You've had, you have had, you have played music before.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's absolutely what's your go to? Uh, there's

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Speaker 2: a there's a there's a playlist. Well no, no, I

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Speaker 2: called it's called upbeat chill, right, and I think it's

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Speaker 2: just the right tempo. It's relaxed but not so down

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Speaker 2: that right. It's probably given way too much.

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Speaker 1: So you chuck that on, yeah right, yeah, cool man.

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Speaker 2: You you famously said that you once listened to the

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Speaker 2: entire al Green discography when you had one discography.

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Speaker 1: Definitely that would have been like sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Hours of a real marathon session.

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Speaker 1: We did both signs of an LP. It was the

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Speaker 1: best of those, so you know, dense sides that man

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Speaker 1: there is the man in the middle legend anyway. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well Lena, let's let's get let's get into it. It

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Speaker 1: is it a bad idea to sleep with him on

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Speaker 4: I would say yes, like a perspective like you give

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Speaker 4: that as easy? Like what would think about you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Heylena, what would you think say if we're on

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Speaker 2: a date, so first date and I say to you, hey,

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Speaker 2: do you want to come home? Or you know, words

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Speaker 4: No, because it'd be typical.

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Speaker 2: Right, you just expect that from then. You already have

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Speaker 2: such a low opinion of man that it's just like.

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Speaker 1: Lena's right though, And what you're hitting on before she

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Speaker 1: beautifully swiped you is that there is a perception that

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Speaker 1: you are promiscuous if you're going home with them on

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Speaker 1: the first night. I think that's sad.

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Speaker 2: I a difference there.

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Speaker 1: I really hate it's.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I should be.

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Speaker 1: Able to whip the bails off with whomever you want.

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Speaker 1: Whenever you want, if you're both consenting.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think you should judge someone.

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Speaker 1: We're attached to that, Yeah, mate, take them off? Got him? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: out of his c Steph on thirteen one, six y five, Steph, Hello,

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Speaker 1: you reckon. It's absolutely not a bad idea to sleep

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Speaker 1: with someone on the FO. No.

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Speaker 4: I was actually the instigator of it, with a little

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Speaker 4: dating sober. Steph was not keen to meet him because

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Speaker 4: I was a bit scared, but drunk. Steph was happy too,

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Speaker 4: and almost five years later, two kids and we're getting

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Speaker 2: Ah.

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Speaker 4: It worked out.

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Speaker 1: So not to condone drinking to enhance you as a

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Speaker 1: personal no. But you're talking to this person. You have

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Speaker 1: a couple of shadis in the bath or whatever something

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Speaker 1: in the bath, mate, don't don't just don't.

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Speaker 2: You don't have a first date to get done.

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Speaker 1: She's in the bath by herself at this stage. She's

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Speaker 1: texting because you were you were on the dating app, weren't.

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Speaker 2: You, Steph.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Actually, like I've randomly been talking to him on and off,

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Speaker 4: and I actually went to a twenty first that night

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Speaker 4: and met did him and said, hey, do you want

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Speaker 2: Of show so it wasn't even a date there. Step

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Speaker 2: that was genuinely like a again, it was.

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Speaker 4: On a date the next day, so it was cute.

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Speaker 4: I was expecting him to just leave and never hear

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Speaker 4: and we've been in since.

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Speaker 2: Nice.

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Speaker 1: So interesting those steps, like even though he you know,

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Speaker 1: just just purely because you brought him over a booty call,

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Speaker 1: you expected to never speak to him again.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because I feel like guys are just like nodded

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Speaker 4: in for the long haul if they're just coming to

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Speaker 4: the booty call. But he changed my mind and he

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Speaker 4: was sticking around.

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Speaker 1: So that was lovely, nice, awesome, congratulations. Great to hear

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Speaker 1: from you, mate. It's it's a few feel good stories

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Speaker 1: in here, isn't it. Let's finish it up with Michael here, Michael,

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Speaker 1: should you sleep with someone on the first night? Is

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Speaker 1: it a bad idea?

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Speaker 3: It is a terrible idea. Basically, all men are pigs, right,

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Speaker 3: and that's a waiting game. It's all a waiting game.

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Speaker 3: You want that on a pedestal, you want to wait

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Speaker 3: for it or else the that's just not worth it.

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Speaker 1: Right, Where does this wisdom of yours come from? Michael,

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Speaker 1: little men and.

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Speaker 3: Pigs, basically all my friends.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's a small case study, but you know

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Speaker 2: it's a small extrapolation. That's the world.

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Speaker 1: Hear more of the boys on the Full Show podcast.

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Speaker 4: You know you want to