1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: On today's show, Sarah's debates, her dramatic hair transformation, Saffron 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: Barker's shock relationship update, Anna Paul's controversial new brand collaboration, 3 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 1: and Molly May's daughter's divisive first birthday party. Hello, and 4 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 1: welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the hottest influencer 5 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: and pop culture news twice a week. I'm Kate Torba, 6 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: and apparently I have a baby cucumber growing inside of me. 7 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: That is what the app is telling me at the moment, 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: because I am eighteen weeks pregnant. But I want to 9 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: know is that a Continental cucumber a Lebanese cucumber? Because 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: I don't feel like I'm big enough to have a 11 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,599 Speaker 1: continental cucumber baby at the moment. Yeah, it's a bit 12 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: of a weird one too, because didn't it go from 13 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: being an avocado to a cucumber? And I mean an 14 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: avocado was wide and then a cucumber is long. That's 15 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: what's throwing me. Well, you've missed a fruit or vegetable 16 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: in between. It was actually an onion last week. Okay. 17 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: But it's so funny because it really differs between what 18 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: website you look at to what fruit your baby is 19 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: represented by each week. I think it's all the crocerd shit. 20 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: I kind of like it, though, because each week you've 21 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: got something new to refer to the baby, so we've 22 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: been calling it a cucumber at the moment. Does it 23 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: also help you develop a new pregnancy craving because that 24 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: week you might feel like cucumber or whatever the fruit 25 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: of edge may be that it definitely hasn't been aligning 26 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: to what the baby is represented by the fruit. I'm 27 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: getting into a baby shower planning though at the moment, 28 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: because I went to a friend's on the weekend and 29 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: it was so cute and it just got me thinking 30 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: about what I want to do for mine, and also 31 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 1: to keep a note of how pregnant i'll actually be 32 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: because I'm someone that's very hands on and Reese's like, look, 33 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: we might want to get it catered for. You probably 34 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: won't want to be in the kitchen cooking, but I 35 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: just love doing all of that sort of stuff. Well, 36 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: could you do it soon? Ish? Well? The tricky thing 37 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: is trying to find a date with everyone's weddings and 38 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: honeymoons and all that sort of stuff coming up. But 39 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: we will hopefully lock one in soon. I would love 40 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: to know if anyone has any cute baby shower theme ideas, 41 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: because I have been looking on Pinterest and it feels 42 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: like everyone does the same thing, particularly for boys. There 43 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: seems to be this blue bear theme at the moment. 44 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: They is very cute, but I don't think I think 45 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: I'll be able to replicate it as well as some 46 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: people do. Yeah, it's a hard one because sometimes you 47 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: do want to follow the trends, but then you don't 48 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: want it to be the tenth blue bear themed baby 49 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: shower that someone's been to that year. One thing I 50 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: do know is that I want to include both males 51 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: and females in the baby shower, because there is a 52 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: trend just to invite your female friends. But it's Reese's 53 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: babies too, so I'm like, well, why wouldn't he want 54 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: to be there and invite his friends. Yeah, I think 55 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: that there is a trend where people are moving away 56 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: from the baby shower purely being a day about women 57 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: and girls, and it's really nice to have your partner 58 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: at it. That's sort of what I did for my 59 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: Hen's party. I had boys there as well. Yeah, it's yeah, 60 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: I feel like it's a very old fashioned concept to 61 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: just have it just purely one gender. Yeah, at the moment, 62 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: I am leaning towards Peter Rabbit or poop Bear, but 63 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if that is too generic. Let's put 64 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: a thread in our Facebook community. I would love to 65 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: see what some of our listeners have done for their 66 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: baby showers. 67 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 2: I don't know if I've officially lost my mind. I've 68 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 2: forgotten all the trauma, and I need you to bring 69 00:02:58,120 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: me back to reality. 70 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: Over a week now, Sarah's day has been teasing a 71 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: dramatic hair transformation. The self proclaimed holistic health princess is 72 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: revisiting her glory days of twenty seventeen and going back 73 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: to long blonde hair extensions now. She shared a video 74 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: to TikTok where she questioned if she was having some 75 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: sort of midlife crisis, and she said that she has 76 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: been consumed with researching hair extensions. It is interesting because 77 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: most of the influences at the moment are actually cutting 78 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: their hair into a short, blonde bob, so I thought 79 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: Sarah would probably follow that trend, and also the fact 80 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: that she is a mother of two, Having long blonde 81 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: hair is a lot of work, and she has spoken 82 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: a lot about how busy she is, so I was 83 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: quite surprised by this as someone who also has naturally 84 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: thin hair. Hair extensions are literally my Roman Empire, and 85 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: I think that for those of us who have thin 86 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: hair were always toying with the idea of getting hair extensions. 87 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: And for her, I think it was interesting that she 88 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: pointed out that she wants to recreate the hair that 89 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: she had in twenty seventeen, because for her, I think 90 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: that's her sort of peak era in popularity, and I 91 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: think that the way she felt she looked so I 92 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: think she's almost trying to regain a bit of her 93 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: identity back from that time in her life. Sarah's TikTok 94 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: comments were full of warnings about how damaging permanent hair 95 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: extensions can be, and I don't mean to be that person, 96 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: but I can just imagine the videos that are going 97 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: to come out in probably a couple of months time, 98 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: about how much she regrets having the permanent hair extensions 99 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: and the damage that's been caused, probably a new video series. 100 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: It's sort of a canon event for her, though, We've 101 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: got to let her go through it, and she did 102 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: actually use this initial video as an opportunity for her 103 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: followers to talk her out of getting them, and pointed 104 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: out how badly hair extensions have damaged her hair in 105 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: the past. Let's throw to what she said, but. 106 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: I loved having extensions, and like, sure it ruined my hair. 107 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: My hair fell out. 108 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 2: I was basically baled by the end. 109 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: But like, what's the difference? What is the difference? 110 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: Because I always wear a slick back bun. Honestly, when 111 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: do I wear my hair out? 112 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: Never? As someone who has thin hair, I get that 113 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 1: reasoning because I for so long have wanted healthy, long hair, 114 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: and I'll try and not straighten it and not dry it. 115 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: But then I'm like, but it looks like shit while 116 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: I'm going through that process. And the thing is, even 117 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: if you get your hair to a stage where it 118 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: is healthy, it's not going to change the texture of 119 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: your hair. You're not suddenly going to have Lush's thick 120 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: hair now. In a follow up video, Sarah thanked her 121 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: audience for validating her feelings and said she is re 122 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: entering her hair extensions ear. I want a side note here, 123 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: Can people please stop using the word era all the time? 124 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: It is doing my head in I watch YouTube videos 125 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: and there's a particular group of influencers who everything is 126 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: an era to them. I don't think it's going to 127 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: stop anytime soon, particularly with Taylor Swift's eras to a 128 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: coming up. I think she's the only one that can 129 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: use the term eras because she has actually gone through 130 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,679 Speaker 1: some very revolutionary times on the topic of things pissing 131 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: you off. I can't stand it when people pronounce errors 132 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: as errors. I think that's a Melbourne thing. Yeah, it's 133 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: a very American thing because I'm like, it's the errors 134 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 1: to it, not the errors to it. It's clear that 135 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: there is some sort of sponsorship agreement involved in this 136 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: whole transformation process because in this video, Sarah tagged what 137 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: she described as a bougie hair salon in Cronulla. So 138 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: the salon in question is called Pello by Lego, and 139 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: she also tagged the owner and Stylus Kirby. Did she 140 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: disclose any partnership? Okay, this is Sarah's day, of course, 141 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: she didn't disclose anything. This did lead me to go 142 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: and have a bit of a stalk at the salon's 143 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: Instagram account. And this isn't your run of the meal 144 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: average salon. They have Delta Gudroom as one of their 145 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: clients as well as Rachel Finch, so it does have 146 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: very exclusive vibes. And I would hate to think how 147 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: much this hair transformation would actually cost the average client 148 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: if you probably weren't getting it for free like Sarah's 149 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,559 Speaker 1: day is. That's so annoying thing. It's usually the people 150 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: that can afford it that don't have to pay for it, 151 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 1: Like it's so frustrating to watch, because, yeah, I get it. 152 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: We can all go through these stages where we hate 153 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: our hair, but most of us don't have thousands of 154 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: dollars to drop on brand new hair extensions and coloring. 155 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: And I mean recently, I think it was in a 156 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,559 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago she was in the salon getting 157 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: a kerat and smoothing treatment. We didn't really get much 158 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: of an update on that. Yeah, I mean, we do 159 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: have to point out she may not actually be getting 160 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: this for free, but it appears that way because of 161 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: the tagging. It does frustrate me when there are obvious 162 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: sponsorship agreements going on and it isn't disclosed because she 163 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: has continued to tag both of these accounts in her 164 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: hair updates going forward, There's no way that she's tagging 165 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: them out of the goodness of her heart. There definitely 166 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: is something going on. I've noticed a lot of influencers 167 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: doing that every time they get a haircut and not 168 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: disclosing it. I've also seen it creeping in when influencers 169 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: go to nail Salon's. Yeah. Well, Sarah posted about her 170 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: initial experience about a week ago and we are still 171 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: waiting to see the results. Yeah. But she has been 172 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: appearing on her Instagram story, which is the most confusing thing. 173 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: But she'll just tuck her hair behind her shoulders. She 174 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: seems like she just can't control herself and that she 175 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: wants to show everyone her hair because she has been 176 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: baiting this big reveal on YouTube and it's coming in 177 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: a few days. However, she's literally shown everyone little snippets 178 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: of it here and there that you already get a 179 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: vibe of what it's going to look like. She has 180 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: really been struggling not to reveal the look. Let's throw 181 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: to what she said. 182 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: It's taking every ounce of like patience, discipline, discipline. 183 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: In me not to reveal. I do find it interesting 184 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: that despite sharing this journey initially on TikTok, she is 185 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: waiting to debut this look on her YouTube channel, and 186 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: we have been talking for a few months now about 187 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: how she appears to be trying to capture this viral moment. 188 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: It seems like there's a lot of desperation in trying 189 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: to regain her audience because of baiting going on. Yeah, 190 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 1: because if you do look at her view count on YouTube, 191 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: she has drastically been going down in views because a 192 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: year ago she was averaging a four hundred to five 193 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: hundred thousand views on her videos and now they're sitting 194 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: around one hundred thousand to two hundred thousand. March, that 195 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: is a massive drop off. We have recently been talking 196 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: about how she is trying to tease this pregnancy announcement 197 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: that's coming on a YouTube channel. She even went to 198 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: the length of putting up a pregnancy test on one 199 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: of the tiles, and I noticed that that video did 200 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: hit three hundred thousand views, so it's obviously working. She 201 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: knows that everyone is very keen to see this hair 202 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: transformation too, so that's why she's trying to keep it 203 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: for her ogs on YouTube, and she's hoping that some 204 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: of that TikTok audience will be intrigued enough to go 205 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: over to her YouTube channel. I am surprised that she's 206 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: so keen to get her YouTube following up, because if 207 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: I was her, I would be focusing more on growing 208 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 1: on TikTok. It is the platform of the moment, and 209 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,719 Speaker 1: from what I've been hearing a lot of social commentators 210 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: say about TikTok is that they're trying to recreate what 211 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: YouTube was like back in twenty seventeen, So they are 212 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: going to be further pushing longer form content, sort of 213 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: more polished vlog styles as well. So I feel like 214 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: it would be better for Sarah to start honing in 215 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: on her craft on TikTok and building an audience there. 216 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 1: I'm really interested to see how many views this video 217 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: ends up getting and whether her baiting has worked. 218 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 3: You know that if I was going to come out 219 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 3: with a toothpaste, I was going to taste like cotton candy. 220 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: No. I love eating, you know, I love it. This 221 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: tastes identical to cotton candy. Anna Paul's fans aren't happy 222 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: about her latest collaboration, the TikTokers skincare brand. Paulie has 223 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: teamed up with toothpaste brand High Smile to launch a 224 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: cotton candy toothpaste. Now, the collaboration went live on both 225 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: Pauli's and High Smiles website on Wednesday, and at the 226 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: time of recording, it is yet to sell out, and 227 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: this is quite unusual for Anna's products. So I had 228 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: a look, and so I guess how much the toothpaste 229 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: is retelling for. It's a sixty grand tube. I would 230 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: hate to think. Well, your regular toothpaste probably costs three 231 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: to four dollars, I'm guessing because this has Anna Pool 232 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: branding on there, and at some sort of special cent 233 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: maybe ten dollars. It costs fifteen dollars, which I was 234 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: quite surprised about. And it is a very small tube. 235 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: You can also buy in a set with a matching 236 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: pink toothbrush for the discounted rate of seventy two dollars fifty. 237 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 1: It is an electric toothbrush. It seems sort of counterintuitive 238 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: to have cotton candy toothpaste because to me, when I 239 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: think about cotton candy, that just reminds me of getting 240 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: holes and fillings. Yeah, I did see a lot of 241 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: people commenting saying that when they brush their teeth, they 242 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: like their mouth to feel fresh, not like they've just 243 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: had a bunch of candy. Yeah. Now, when Anna did 244 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: share the news of the collaboration, the backlash was swift, 245 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: not for that reason, So a follower commented saying, literally 246 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 1: the worst collab she could have ever done. Now that 247 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: comment received over two thousand, three hundred likes. Someone else 248 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: also wrote Anna, why high smell of the worst company? 249 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: And that comment had over one thousand, five hundred likes. 250 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: Now it's kind of awkward because the way Anna actually 251 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 1: announced this collaboration is that she shared a carousel of 252 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: pictures and one of the pictures was of the High 253 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: Smile cotton candy toothpaste in her toiletry bag. However, next 254 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: to it was Colgate toothpaste. So people are like, hang on, 255 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: it's quite clear that you're using the Colgate and not 256 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: your own. It's not good brand placement there is that. 257 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: I bet Colgate were absolutely stoked with it, though, Yeah, 258 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 1: how did that post get through approvals? I do think 259 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: it's really interesting that Anna Paul is recently coppying a 260 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: lot of flak because for so many years she has 261 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: been untouchable, and it is interesting to note that this 262 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: sort of criticism has come about since she launched her 263 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: own brand. Poorly because she was one of very few 264 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: influencers who actually weren't doing any brand collaborations, so she 265 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: was relying on her income that she makes on OnlyFans 266 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: and said that she didn't actually want to do brand 267 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: collaborations and wanted to keep it very organic on her channel. 268 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 1: I think you've hit the nail on the head, Kate. 269 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: I think that people are really taken back now that 270 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: she is continually posting about this brand and other sponsorship 271 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: deals now because they're used to getting content without ads 272 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: in it, and her content actually has dropped off on TikTok. 273 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: She's not producing as much content. But it's kind of 274 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: like the Chicken and the Egg because she came out 275 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: and said that she hasn't been producing content because she's 276 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: been getting negative commentary and it makes her feel insecure 277 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: and overthink what she's putting out. It is interesting because 278 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: her brand launch actually coincided with her breakup from her 279 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: long term boyfriend Glenn, so I don't know if the 280 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: negative feedback is a result of both of those things. 281 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: I also think that Australia in particularly just has an 282 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: issue with tall poppy, particularly when it comes to young women. 283 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: So the fact that we've seen her rise so much. 284 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: Of course, she was always going to have a bit 285 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: of a fall. Yeah, Tammy Sakowski. That rolls off the tongue. Yeah. 286 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: Will you change your name? Yeah? I think you. I 287 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 1: love that. Tammy Hembro has revealed she will be changing 288 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: her last name when she ties the knot with Love 289 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: Island's Matt Zukowski. Now. She made this a mission when 290 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: she appeared on her fiance's podcast last week. I was 291 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: really surprised by this news, as she has built such 292 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: a massive empire with her last name. Kate, Well you 293 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: expecting it. I wasn't expecting it, but it does sound 294 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: like she is going to be keeping Tammy Hembro as 295 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: her kind of stage name, and personally she will be 296 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: using Zakowski. I thought Matt might do a Dalton Henshaw. 297 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: So that is Laura Henshaw's husband. He took on her 298 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: surname because he said, look, you've built this personal brand. 299 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: Your brand is bigger than my name is, so why 300 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: don't I take your name. I actually thought he would 301 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,479 Speaker 1: be happy to be mister Hembrow because, judging from the interview, 302 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: he seemed to be I don't want to stay caught 303 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: up in her fame, but it's quite clear that things 304 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: move quite quickly because he seemed a bit star struck 305 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: by her. There were a few awkward moments in that interview. 306 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to take it away from 307 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: the couple. They do sound very much in love, but 308 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: he kind of sounds quite infatuated by her, and just 309 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: the way he was speaking. I don't know, I got 310 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: a little bit the ick from him. I'm sorry. I 311 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: think he is a nice guy, but I think it 312 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: was his voice. Yeah, I have listened to his podcast before. 313 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: I need to go back and double check if this 314 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: is the case, but I feel like he was talking 315 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: in a more monotone way, because you know, when you're 316 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: around someone that you like and you're trying to impress them, 317 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: you kind of speak differently. And it's so clear that 318 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: they're in the honeymoon stage because they did this quiz 319 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: at the end and they were asking each other. I 320 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: think it was like who's the better cook or what's 321 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: your favorite meal to each other cook and they couldn't 322 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: name anything, like he did say Tammy's pancakes. But then 323 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: they admitted that they never actually have cooked each other 324 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: a proper meal because They're always out to dinner with 325 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: each other. It's not really surprising because they don't even 326 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: live in the same state as each other. Why was 327 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: that not a question in this interview? Because I will 328 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: give Anna mcinvoy credit, she did ask a lot of 329 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: the questions that I wanted to know the answers to. 330 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: But the most burning question for me is how is 331 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: this relationship going to work when he lives in Melbourne 332 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: and she lives on the Gold Coast. Because they said 333 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: that they haven't spent a week apart from each other. 334 00:15:58,160 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: And I get it, Tammy is rich, but how does 335 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: that work long term? Which he's got kids as well. 336 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: I would guess that he would be moving in with 337 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: her due to the fact that she has an established 338 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: life on the Gold Coast with her kids. It was 339 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: always can I ask what is his full time job? 340 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: I know he has a podcast, but I don't think 341 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: it is a full time gig like they do one 342 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: episode a week. I would hazard a guess he also 343 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: does a bit of social media stuff on the side, 344 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: so he really probably could move to the Gold Coast 345 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: and just do his podcast remotely. Surely it would be 346 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: more beneficial for him to be on the Gold Coast 347 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: as an influencer, particularly to be around Tammy as well. Now, 348 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: in this hour long episode, they did cover a lot 349 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: about how they first met and their engagement, and I 350 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: think there wasn't really anything major that we haven't already heard. 351 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: But I think the most interesting points were about their 352 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: wedding plans going forward. Oh, the fact that he is 353 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: a groomzilla. Again. I know this sounds bad, but that 354 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: really gave me the ick because I complained that my partner, 355 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: Reese wasn't as interested in the wedding as me. Like, 356 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: I feel like I had to pull teeth to get 357 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: answers from him. I mean, in a way, it was 358 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: good though, because he just let me do whatever I want. 359 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: And I feel like it's going to annoy Tammy because 360 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: apparently he wants to be super involved. Yeah, and it's 361 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: almost like he's been hassling her to get it all organized. Yeah. 362 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: She said that he had been hounding her about the 363 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: venues and he seems to be the one that's very 364 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: eager to swiftly get it over the line and just 365 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: thinking about the whole wedding planning process, because planning a 366 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: wedding is one of those really stressful events where I 367 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: feel like it's inevitable that you're going to have some 368 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: sort of argument about things. Now, when you're a new 369 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: couple and you've only known each other for a couple 370 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: of weeks, you're doing long distance, I think that they're 371 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: going to have a lot of arguments about this wedding, 372 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: and you don't want it to be about your wedding either. 373 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: I was interested to hear that Tammy said that she 374 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: had never gotten to the stage with her other fiances 375 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: Rhees Hawkins and Matt Pool, to the stage where they'd 376 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: actually planned a wedding at all, so it does seem 377 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: very new for her. They did say that they're meeting 378 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 1: up with a wedding plan, and also she's already picked 379 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: out her wedding dress. So Anna macnvoy said that Tammy 380 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: had shown her I'm guessing a picture of it at 381 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 1: Tammy's New Year's Eve party, and that was the party 382 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: where everyone thought that they were going to do a 383 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: surprise wedding. How is this all moving so quickly like 384 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: for me, it took ten months for my dress to 385 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: come in. I understand that Tammy Hembro can pull some strings, 386 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: and I'm sure a lot of brands would just fast 387 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: forward the process for her. Also, it makes it more 388 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: interesting that she shared that post about Vera Wang a 389 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, because is this a Vera Wang 390 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 1: dress or is Vera Wang gon a sponsor maybe her 391 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: second gown of the evening. I think Vera Wanger probably 392 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: kicking themselves that they didn't get in contact with her sooner, 393 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: because the way I saw the post, it looked like 394 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: an introductory post where they gave her a wedding planning 395 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: guide and it was kind of just to test the 396 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: waters to see if she posted something and how she 397 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: would react. But as you say, this is Tammy Hembro, 398 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: she probably will have a couple of wedding gowns, so 399 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: maybe they haven't completely missed the Boat's clear that Matt 400 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: is very keen to lock in a date, because he 401 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: already told his podcast listeners a couple of weeks ago 402 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: that they're definitely getting married this year. And I think 403 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: it has a lot to do with the fact that 404 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of criticism about this engagement. It 405 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: is Tammy's third engagement and a lot of people are saying, oh, 406 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: you guys aren't even going to get to the wedding. 407 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: I did like how they included in the podcast how 408 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: Matt has nicknamed Tammy Thanos because she likes collecting rings. 409 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty funny, and they did seem 410 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,959 Speaker 1: to take the piss out of themselves at bit. Yeah, 411 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: it is quite clever because they are not wanting to 412 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: reveal the venue to their guests on the invite, so 413 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: they don't actually have a venue yet. They said that 414 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: they've got a few front runners, but they do have 415 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 1: a date in mind that they really want to lock in. 416 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: So apparently they will be telling their guests to meet 417 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: at a certain point and then buses will pick them 418 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: up and will be a secret wedding location. Now, I'm 419 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: guessing this is to do with the fact that there 420 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: is going to be a lot of media speculation and 421 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 1: interest in this wedding, so paparazzi you're going to want 422 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: to send, you know, helicopter's over to try and capture 423 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: an image of her. I wonder if they will lock 424 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: in some sort of agreement with a magazine or a newspaper. See. 425 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: I think that they'll probably just run on their own 426 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: social channels. I think in this day and age, Tammy 427 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: Hembro doesn't really need the money from a media outlet, 428 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: and she probably wants to control the narrative herself. And 429 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: it's probably more important for an influencer like her to 430 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: have a big moment on her own page because that 431 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: is going to get her probably even more followers and 432 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: likes than she already has. Yeah, but I think that 433 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: influencers are still interested in the mainstream media, and I 434 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: think that mainstream media outlets are becoming increasingly interested in 435 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: influencers as well. So if someone was throwing a huge 436 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: amount of money at you, you'd probably think, well, fuck it, 437 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: I'm going to get huge interest on my Instagram anyway. See, 438 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: I think because she'll probably have a lot of influencers 439 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: there that will be desperate to post pictures. I just 440 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: think she'll be like, fuck it. I don't get the 441 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: vibe that she's someone that needs her tires pumped from 442 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,479 Speaker 1: a traditional media source. However, I feel about having your 443 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: tires pumped, though it's about the money. Yeah, but that's 444 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: probably keen for it, That's what I was gonna say. 445 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: I feel like Matt would be more keen for it 446 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: than her, So I feel like if it does happen. 447 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 1: It'll probably because Matt wanted it to happen. 448 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 449 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: They also spoke about their Hens and Bucks parties. This 450 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: sounds like they're very organized. They've also already started writing 451 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: their vows, which I mean, I'm six weeks out from 452 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: my wedding. I haven't even thought about that yet. I 453 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: suppose it would be good to write it in the 454 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: honeymoon phase. Yeah, she's probably easier to get it all 455 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: out because Tammy was saying that she was crying while 456 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: she was riding them. Well, in terms of the Hens 457 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 1: and Bucks parties, they are going to be holding them 458 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: on the same day, so it would be some sort 459 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: of separate lunch thing, and then they're all going to 460 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: meet up in the nighttime, which I found quite interesting 461 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: because Matt said that their friends don't even know each 462 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: other yet, which is showing how think quickly things have 463 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: been moving. 464 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 465 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: Didn't he say though, that he thinks that him and 466 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 1: Tammy are only going to have their bridesmaids and groomsmen 467 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: as a part of it. Yeah. It was a bit 468 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: awkward because it sounded like Anna the host was not 469 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: invited to this at all, and then it sounded like 470 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 1: Tammy wasn't invited to hers either. To be fair, it 471 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: was Anna that firstly said that she was only having 472 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: her bridesmaids, and then they backed it up, which was 473 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: a little bit strange. But I think Anna's probably she 474 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: is doing it overseas wedding, so maybe she's doing just 475 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: like an overseas trip with the girls. Beforehand, it sounded 476 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: as though Matt was almost weighing up the idea of 477 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: proposing to Tammy during Anna's wedding, like whilst they were 478 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: in Greece. Horror, I'm actually how that would go down. 479 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: Fuck me, yeah, God, you would be so pissed off. 480 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: I feel like Anna was doing God's work because she 481 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: did ask Matt what his relationship is like with Tammy's 482 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: three kids, and I think everyone has been wondering that, 483 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: and it was lovely to hear that they get on 484 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: really well. So Tammy said that she's not trying to 485 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: push Matt as a dad figure, but he is really 486 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: good with them, and it seems like her son Wolf 487 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: has taken quite a liking to him. So Tammy said 488 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: that he is obsessed with him and he tries to 489 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 1: copy him. So like he saw that Matt had his 490 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: hat backwards, so he his hat backwards. It's pretty cute. 491 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 3: Every year on our birthdays, my mum would pull out 492 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 3: this cake book that she had and let Debey and 493 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 3: I choose a cake from this cakebook to have for 494 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 3: our birthday, and we could literally choose whatever cake we wanted. 495 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: Mollie May has received praise for baking her daughter Bambi 496 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: a homemade cake for her first birthday party. Firstly, I 497 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: cannot believe that Bambi is one already. What is going on? 498 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: Time seasy, moving so quickly at the moment. Oh, it's crazy. 499 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 1: I absolutely loved when this popped up on my Instagram 500 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: feed because Molly May is very much known for controlling 501 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: her esthetic, so I was shocked when I saw this 502 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 1: cake because it was a very good effort. But it's 503 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: not like some perfect cake that you would see on Instagram. Yeah. Well, 504 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: on her YouTube channel, she has recently been sharing that 505 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: she's trying to get into baking because her mum bought 506 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: her one of those kitchen wizardses what is it called 507 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: kitchen aid? A kitchen aid for Christmas, so she has 508 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: been practicing her cake skills, which I thought was pretty cute. 509 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: And she said that she gets really excited baking and 510 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: she feels like she's competing in the Great British Bake Off. Now, 511 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: I found this revelation really interesting. So the UK have 512 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: their own version of the Woman's Weekly Cookbook. It's called 513 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 1: Easy Party Cakes. I can't believe the title because I 514 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: saw this book and I'm like, there's nothing easy about 515 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: any of the cakes that appear in it. Like they've 516 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: got fondon and stuff. I feel like the Women's Weekly Cookbook, Yeah, 517 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: they're kind of hard, but to their credit, nowhere near 518 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: as this. Like you just literally have to go down 519 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: the lolly aisle and maybe slap some lollies and icing 520 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: on there. But it's talking about these are quite intricate. Yeah, 521 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: so some of the iconic cakes in there are these 522 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: huge castles. There's also a frog, a boat, a pumpkin 523 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: and a clown. But as you say, it's all using 524 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: fondan icing, and yeah, they look incredibly difficult. Now, Molly 525 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: explained that every year her mum would bring out this 526 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: book and they would get to pick whichever cake they wanted, 527 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: And she said that she had been scaring the internet 528 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 1: trying to find a copy of a cookbook so that 529 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: she could continue this tradition with Bambi, and she couldn't 530 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: find it anywhere. Somehow, her mum managed to find it 531 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: for ninety nine p on eBay. I have a feeling 532 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: that so many other mums are now going to be 533 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: looking for this book. Yeah, probably all scaring op shops 534 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: as we speak now. The cake Molly did select was 535 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: a difficult one. It was a candy house and it 536 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: had this little face on the front and a colorful 537 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: roof and lots of lollies and lollipops emerging from the 538 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 1: back of the house. And she said she was quite 539 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: nervous to try it out though, because she was worried 540 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: it was a disaster. And to her credit, it does 541 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: look quite good. Yeah, I didn't think it looked that bad. 542 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: She did share the end result on her TikTok, and 543 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: it was interesting to analyze this video from a pr 544 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 1: perspective because after last year's whole nightclub fiasco and the 545 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: sort of cheating rumors surrounding Tommy, it seems like she 546 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: is trying to include Tommy in a lot of wholesome 547 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: videos because he sort of sat with her during the 548 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: process and he kept lovingly looking over it. Her you 549 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: would think that this couple was absolute couple goals by 550 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: the way they were acting in this video. They have 551 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: swept that scandal absolutely under the rug. And it's weird 552 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 1: because she was quite open on YouTube recently about being 553 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: so upset and she was going to come and give 554 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: an update, and then suddenly the update was that she's 555 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: gone on two holidays with Tommy and everything's hunky dory. 556 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: Now think that those holidays were a way to rekindle 557 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 1: their relationship though, because originally they were going to go 558 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: to the Maldives and leave Bamby at home, but then 559 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: last minute they thought, no, let's bring her with us. 560 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: Now back to the cake, as you said, Kay, As 561 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: with most cakes when you try and recreate them, this 562 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: didn't look exactly right, and Molly did make light of this. 563 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: She said this was the biggest what I ordered Versus 564 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: what I got moment of my entire life. Everyone loved 565 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: this post because it was just relatable, and one follower wrote, 566 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: I love that she's a millionaire and could have paid 567 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 1: any baker in the world, but made the effort to 568 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,239 Speaker 1: make Bambi a birthday cake from her mum. Now that 569 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 1: comment received over forty four thousand likes, and a number 570 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: of other followers also shared their memories about this cookbook. 571 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: I do have to mention, though, that she did have 572 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: other professional cakes on standby. I was really surprised when 573 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: I saw this. So she did a bit of a 574 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 1: wrap up on her Instagram story about what happened at 575 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: this birthday party? Side note, was there anyone there but 576 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: her and Tommy? I'm guessing there would have been. Maybe 577 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: these photos were taken before the actual party took place. 578 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: And she did have a white theme, so she had 579 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: all this spread of white food, and she did have 580 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 1: two other birthday cakes for Bambi which were very fancy, 581 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: so one had this sworn on it and then the 582 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 1: other one was white with beautiful piping around it. She 583 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: also had a ton of clear balloons and a white 584 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: number one, which did cause a lot of backlash. So 585 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: a lot of people thought that the theme was very cold. 586 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: So one user wrote why is everything so boring? Though? White? White, 587 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: pristine white? Where's the color especially for a baby? It 588 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: doesn't look like a birthday now. That comment received three 589 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: thousand likes. See I kind of liked the white aesthetic. 590 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: I thought it looked beautiful. Another follower said, this woman's 591 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: objection to color should seriously be studied. It's bizarre, and 592 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: this is because she copped a lot of criticism when 593 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: she opted for an all white nursery for Bambi. I 594 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 1: always think the first birthday party is for the parents. 595 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: It's quite clear they're celebrating reaching the milestone with their order. 596 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: Bamby is not going to remember if she had colored 597 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: balloons or white balloons. Yeah, stunning, And also I know 598 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 1: it is really beautiful and fun to make your own cake, 599 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 1: but half the time those cakes don't taste any good. Yeah, 600 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: it's good that she had the backup options. That platter 601 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: looked incredible. If anything, I saw it and thought, wow, 602 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: that's a very chic first birthday party. Maybe some ideas 603 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: for my baby? Shit did should go all white? 604 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,479 Speaker 4: My life is going to change, not that I can 605 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 4: actually talk about it. I actually can't talk about it 606 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 4: right now, so literally, with that puzz. 607 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: It hasn't been a great start to twenty twenty four 608 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: for UK YouTuber Saffron Barker. On day one of her 609 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: skiing trip in the French Alps, she injured her leg 610 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: on the slopes in a TikTok that now has over 611 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: thirteen million views. Saffron shared how her leg clicked out 612 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: of place while she was skiing and she couldn't move. 613 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: The influencer had to be rushed to hospital by the 614 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: emergency ski patrol and at the time, Saffron said she 615 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: thought she was never going to be able to move 616 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: her leg again. Now, the latest update on her leg 617 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: is that the doctors think she has torn her acl Now, 618 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: if things couldn't get worse in a second blow, her 619 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: professional rugby player boyfriend Lewis Resamber announced his moving to 620 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: the US. It ended up being big sporting news as 621 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: he played rugby for Wales at a national level but 622 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: has decided to quit rugby to pursue his dream of 623 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: playing American football. I couldn't believe this when it popped 624 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: up on my Instagram feed because of course I follow 625 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: Lewis as well, and it's just not great timing for 626 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: the couple because they only met back in November, and 627 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: it was a big surprise to everyone when I made 628 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: this Instagram official because they had only known each other 629 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: for I think that'd only been on a handful of dates. 630 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: It all seemed very quick, very Tammy and Matt ESK. 631 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: They did share themselves kissing at a movie premiere and 632 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: everyone was like, what the fuck is going on here? Yeah, 633 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: particularly because Saffron does have her own dating podcast that 634 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: she hosts with fellow influencer Anastasia kings North. I do 635 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: feel really sorry for Saffron because on the podcast they 636 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: talk a lot about how she's just attracted to guys 637 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: that live really far away, and she was really happy 638 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,479 Speaker 1: because she lives in Brighton and he lives in Wales, 639 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: which is still a fair trek, but they were spending 640 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: a lot of time together. So now the fact he's 641 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: moving to the US, it kind of just seems like 642 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: a bad joke. Yeah. I have been keeping up with 643 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: Saffron's Tattle life thread, and that is only because Saffron 644 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: is my favorite influencer and I almost feel protective over her. 645 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: When I read that thread and a lot of people 646 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: have taken joy out of this, I feel sorry for 647 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: her because it would be really difficult to put your 648 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: relationship out there, particularly when this is an very early 649 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: young relationship. Yeah, they're only twenty two. And it's interesting 650 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: because a lot of people are saying that they think 651 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: that this will be the end of the relationship, but 652 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: Saffron has spoken a lot about how she would like 653 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: to spend half of her year in America and half 654 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: of her year in the UK, so I think could 655 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: actually work quite well for them well. On her recent 656 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: episode of a podcast, which is pre recorded so it's 657 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: not actually up to date, she did hint at this 658 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: announcement that was coming, and it does sound like she 659 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: is contemplating moving to the US. Let's throw to what 660 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: she said. 661 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 3: We were looking at it we go in and John, 662 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 3: but I don't think it anymore, are we? 663 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: I know? 664 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, like we literally keep saying we're gonna go away, 665 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 4: but I feel like we well, I have a my 666 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 4: life is going to change, not that I can actually 667 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 4: talk about it. I actually can't talk. 668 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: About it right now. 669 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 4: So literally with love us, but my life has much 670 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 4: change a lot, and I feel like I don't really 671 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 4: know what I'm doing with my life at the moment 672 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 4: in the next couple of months, So I feel like 673 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 4: we was gonna go away in January. 674 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: We were going to go away and somewhere like quite 675 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: far away. But I don't think that's happening anymore. 676 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 4: No, but we definitely will be getting some trips in 677 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 4: I feel like we should book now. 678 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: We need to buy so many guys. 679 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 4: I want to go to and I've realized that actually 680 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 4: haven't been to that many places. 681 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: In this podcast episode, she also spoke a lot about 682 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: how she's been reflecting on her influencer career, and it 683 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: sounds like she very much wants to get into acting, 684 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: so maybe she sees the US move as a chance 685 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: for her to follow her dreams in that sense as well. Yeah, 686 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: she has been doing acting classes for quite some time now. Now. 687 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: This move was very swift. So Lewis has already flown 688 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: out to Florida for a ten week training camp, and 689 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,719 Speaker 1: Saffron did share a TikTok and Instagram story of her 690 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: dropping him off at the airport. She captured a photo 691 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: of the couple hugging in a lift drop this one 692 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: off to the airport this morning for his new venture, 693 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: Gonna miss You So Much, and over the top of 694 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: that image the song life gets Hard Played, Oh Brutal. 695 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: It was very on brand for Saffron because she did 696 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: share them enjoying Nando's together before he left. Saffron also 697 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: shared a TikTok of the couple's trip to the airport 698 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: and goodbyers captioning the video and so the long distance begins. 699 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: But absolutely no doubt in it working out. Couldn't be 700 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: prouder of you chasing your dreams now. The soundtrack behind 701 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: that TikTok was this song where it kept saying that 702 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: they were soul mate. This is her way of saying, 703 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: fuck off to any American girls who think that they're 704 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: talking to my partner. Yeah, she's stamping her authority over. 705 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 706 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: I mean, she has been very supportive with this career move, 707 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: but she did share a bit of an insight into 708 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: maybe how she's actually really feeling. So one of her 709 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: friends sent her a Valentine's Day card and a little present, 710 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: and Saffron actually shared what was written in the card 711 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: on her story, and it read just a little something 712 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: to show how much I love you. I know these 713 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: last weeks haven't been easy for you, but I just 714 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: wanted to let you know how special you are to 715 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: me and just so many people. I promise you everything 716 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: happens for a reason, and if things are meant to be, 717 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: they will be. Keep your chin up, baby, I know 718 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: it will all work out for you. I'm here for 719 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: you always, and I love you, this is your year 720 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: to be happy. I don't know how I feel about 721 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: sharing this private comment. She's within her right to share 722 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 1: whatever she wants, but I almost wouldn't want to open 723 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,280 Speaker 1: myself up to trolls because it's quite clear that she's 724 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: maybe had an issue with this move. She's not happy 725 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,959 Speaker 1: about it. She's maybe feeling insecure, like this relationship isn't 726 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: going to last. I don't think I would want anyone 727 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,959 Speaker 1: knowing that I was feeling this way. Well, it goes 728 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: against all the messaging that she's put out there, and 729 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 1: it sort of shows that behind the scenes into her friends. 730 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: She's obviously had a bit of a meltdown. So it's 731 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: very sweet of the friend to send that to her. 732 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: But that card kind of put doubts in my mind 733 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: about their relationship and her fears about it. Do you 734 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: think that it was almost targeted at Lewis Well, I say, 735 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: look how difficult this is for me. Yeah, I did 736 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: feel like it was a potshot at him. I do 737 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: wonder how her family is going to react, because she 738 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: has built her whole channel around her family. In the 739 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: early day, they were permanent fixtures in it. She's very 740 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: close to them. They all live in the same area, 741 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: and they're not going to be happy. I don't think 742 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: that she's moving away. Her mum is very vocal. It's 743 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: quite clear. If she doesn't like one of Saffron's boyfriends, 744 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: they don't last for very long. They haven't actually been 745 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:20,359 Speaker 1: quite clear on whether Wendy her mom likes Lewis. Yeah, 746 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,439 Speaker 1: that will be interesting to find out. I cannot wait 747 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: to hear her next podcast where she actually addresses this, 748 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: because I feel like it's easy to control the messaging 749 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: in little videos on YouTube or Instagram, but on a podcast, Yeah, 750 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: it's hard to cover up how you really feel. So 751 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: I'm just mourning the fact that she has this epic, 752 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: you know, multi million dollar house at Brighton. It's one 753 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: of the most beautiful houses I've seen. Imagine having to 754 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: leave that behind. Well, who knows that she's going to go. 755 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure she'll flip between us. She can afford the airfares. 756 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 1: It also doesn't really make him sound like he's very 757 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: committed though. If he's happy to get up and leave, 758 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: I totally understand. I mean, they're both so young that 759 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: so they've got to put their careers first. But if 760 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: that's why Saffron felt a bit sad about it. Yeah. 761 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 1: Well that's all we've got time for today. Thanks for 762 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: listening to another episode of Outspoken. If you do enjoy 763 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: the show, please do make sure that you are subscribed 764 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: to Outspoken because it does really help us out. 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