1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: My name is Tatasha Bamblet. I'm a proud First Nations 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: woman and I'm here to acknowledge country t Glenn Young 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: Ganya Niana, Kaka yah Ya bin Ahaka nian Ar gay 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: In Mbina, yakarum jar dominyamiga Umagahawakawaman, damon imlan Wumba, bang 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: Gadabomba in and now in wakah ghana on yakraum jar Watnadaa. Hello, 6 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: beautiful friends, we gather on the lands of the Aboriginal people. 7 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: We thank acknowledge and respect the Aberiginal people's land that 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: we're gathering on today. Take pleasure in all the land 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: and respect all that you see. She's on the Money 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: podcast acknowledges culture, country, community and connections, bringing you the tools, 11 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: knowledge and resources for you to thrive. 12 00:00:45,080 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: She's on the Money. She's on the Money. Hello and 13 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: welcome to She's on the Money, the podcast that's here 14 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 2: to help you build wealth no matter what stage of 15 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 2: life you're in. And today it's all about managing your 16 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 2: money in your single girl era, because being single changes 17 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 2: the entire way you do money. You're not splitting rent, 18 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 2: you're not combining incomes. Bar My friend, you are in 19 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 2: full control. You get to set the goals, you get 20 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 2: to pivot fast, and if you do it right, your 21 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: single season can actually be your most financially powerful one. Yet. 22 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: Today we're going to break down how to budget, invest, 23 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: and build wealth as a party of one. I'm Victoria Devine, 24 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: retired financial advisor, and while our friend Beck is away, 25 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: I have the fabulous Miss Jess Grici filling in. 26 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 3: Hello. 27 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 2: Hello, I'm so excited. We were both saying this is 28 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: such a necessary episode in our community, but both of 29 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: us feel right now quite underqualified. Neither of us have 30 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 2: been single for ten years, but we both have been single. 31 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 3: I've been in the trenches, girl. 32 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: I mean, you're saving for a house on your own trill, 33 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 2: so I feel like in some ways you're still individually 34 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 2: managing financewers. And my job used to be to just 35 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 2: set up people's finances. So the amount of single people 36 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 2: I have set finances up for, I feel like, does 37 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 2: make me qualify it totally. 38 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 3: Life doesn't end just because you're single. You can still 39 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 3: do it all. 40 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: No, not only did I want to do this episode 41 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 2: because our community keeps going. I'm single, what do I do? 42 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 2: I also wanted to do this episode because one in 43 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 2: four OUZSI households are a one person household right now, 44 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 2: and for women between the ages of twenty five and 45 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 2: sixty four, nearly forty percent of us are single. So 46 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 2: if you're managing money solo, you're actually not the exception. 47 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 2: You're actually the new normal. Just sad to think about. 48 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: But if you became single tomorrow, what would your first 49 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 2: money move be. 50 00:02:58,400 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 3: I think I'd have to redo my budget. 51 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: Is my right now? 52 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 3: My life is set up where we don't share all 53 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 3: of our expenses, but as you were saying, we. 54 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: Still housees, all of the good stuff. 55 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 3: Utilities, all those sorts of things. So I think I 56 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 3: would have to have a look at what I needed 57 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 3: to spend. Strip back to the bed bone. 58 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: Would you get a house mate? 59 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: Probably? 60 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 3: Honestly, yeah, I mean it would depend I could afford 61 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 3: to pay my full rent for the house on my own, 62 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 3: but like, would I want to? It would slow down 63 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 3: a lot of my other goals And say would it 64 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 3: stop you investing? And say, yeah, like I could, but 65 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 3: I'd have to pull the money from somewhere right, So, 66 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 3: like now. 67 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: We're in our thirties, though, you'd be relatively strategic about 68 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: picking a housemate, just like, Oh, get them in, they're fine, 69 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: they seem nice. I think I'd be like grilling them 70 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: because I'm out for our housemates that we've had historically. 71 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 2: I'm like, do you know what, that's not the season 72 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: of life for this. No, not at all. But you 73 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: touched on before that you would have to go back 74 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 2: to budgeting, and budgeting I would say is especially important 75 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 2: for singles because the average one person household here in 76 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: Australia spends two thousand, eight hundred and thirty five dollars 77 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: a month on living expenses alone versus two thousand and 78 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: fifty nine dollars per person if you're in a couple, 79 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: So that equates to what I'm going to call a 80 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 2: single tax of about seven hundred and seventy six dollars 81 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: each and every single month, or if we want to 82 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 2: extrapolate that out a little bit, nine three hundred dollars 83 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: a year. 84 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 3: That's crazy. 85 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: Well, it kind of makes sense because like if you 86 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: go to the groceries, like my husband and I we 87 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: pull our money together, but at the end of the day, 88 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 2: like it's for both of us, he's contributing. I'm contributing, 89 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 2: like I can add the legal sweet treat without it 90 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 2: super impacting our budget in comparison to if it was 91 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: just a single income. And I think you guys are 92 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 2: the same, Like you start stooping back and you actually 93 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,799 Speaker 2: have to spend more. So I don't know. It really 94 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: frustrates me because when you're single, I want you to 95 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 2: be setting yourself up financially. And I feel like so 96 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 2: many people in our community say things like THEE what 97 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: can I do? Like I feel like I'm just like 98 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 2: always cutting it close to the wire, like every month. Yeah, 99 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 2: as much as this episode is going to be about 100 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 2: tips and tricks, I also want you to know, like, yes, 101 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 2: like that's what's going to happen, and sometimes saving is 102 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 2: going to be harder, Investing is going to be harder, 103 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 2: And we're not waiting for another person to be our 104 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 2: financial plan. Yes, if you become a couple and then 105 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 2: you decide to combine finances down the track, things are 106 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 2: going to be a little bit easier. But like, if 107 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: we can work ourselves out now, we are so financially powerful. Yes, 108 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: you're not maybe investing as much as you want to 109 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 2: or saving as much as you want to, but like 110 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 2: you're in complete control. And I don't know about you, Jess, 111 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 2: but I think we're both like kind of control freaks. 112 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and so like that kind of sounds good 113 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 2: to me. So the first thing we're gonna do, if 114 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 2: we are single, we are going to look and I 115 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: mean this is probably if you're not single and you're 116 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 2: listening to this, hey friends say, but we are also 117 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 2: going to take tips and tricks from this because it's 118 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 2: really good, Like, take a look at your bare bones 119 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: essentials before anything else. I want you to figure out 120 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: what do you actually need to survive, So like what 121 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: is rent? What it bills? What are groceries? If you've 122 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 2: got any debts, what are your minimum repayments? That number 123 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 2: is going to become your financial baseline. So that's the 124 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 2: baseline that we're starting with. Then I want you to 125 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: start thinking about making your emergency fund reflect your genuine 126 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 2: real needs. I think sometimes and I say this all 127 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: the time, like I try to aim for about three 128 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 2: months of emergency funds. Yeah, but like some of us go, oh, 129 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 2: I've got one thousand dollars and like that's fine, But 130 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 2: emergency funds they literally matter for everybody, but they especially 131 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: matter if you're single, there's actually no second income to 132 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: fall back on, Like if you lose your job, you 133 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 2: can't be like to your partner, Hey, could you just 134 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 2: like cover this month's rent and all work it out later. 135 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 2: That's just not an option. There's no second income to 136 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 2: fall back on if things go wrong, So you actually 137 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 2: need to be able to be solid enough to carry 138 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: on on your own. And I was actually talking to 139 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: my single best friend yesterday about this, and she was saying, like, 140 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 2: I just love having my emergency fund. But before I 141 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 2: had it, I didn't realize how much I needed it. Yeah, 142 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,679 Speaker 2: but she had it. She had always like five hundred 143 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: one thousand dollars set aside, And like, I don't know 144 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: about you. Yes, I don't want you to agree with this, 145 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 2: but like she might have felt some pressure from me 146 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 2: to get her stuff together. Maybe I was going, hey, 147 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 2: i'll sit you down and i'll do your investments. I'll 148 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 2: do this, I'll do that. Not that I would ever 149 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: give advice, you know, that would be a breach, but 150 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: I would give tips and tricks. Right once she got 151 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: her emergency fund, She's like Victoria the freedom I feel 152 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 2: like just knowing that if stuff hits the fan girl, 153 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 2: I'm good. 154 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 155 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: The peace of mind, yeah, And like there is definitely 156 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: a peace of mind in having as little as you 157 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 2: need in an emergency fund. I mean, if so many 158 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: of us are going to be listening to this and 159 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: going the I can't get three months together, I literally 160 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 2: get it, but others are going to go that would 161 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: make me feel more financially secure. And that's kind of 162 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 2: what we're working towards. Right now, all you can afford 163 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 2: is fifty bucks money win, You've got fifty dollars. I 164 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 2: promise future you is going to be bloody grateful that 165 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: you even had that. So, like, no amount is too little, 166 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: But what we want to do is start working towards 167 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: like what are our real needs? How do I actually 168 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 2: get to this? And like we've done episodes on side 169 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 2: hustles and extra income, and Jess, you are like the 170 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: queen of the side hustle. I would have a recommendation 171 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 2: to hustle up a little bit of an emergency fund 172 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: just so you feel a lot more financially comfortable. Then 173 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 2: what we're going to do is create a bill's account 174 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 2: and we're going to split the cost with ourselves, so 175 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 2: you can't have your rent. I'm sorry, can't have your electricity. 176 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 2: But what you can do is kind of trick your 177 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 2: budget into feeling a little bit easier. So what I 178 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 2: want you to do is, if you know that, like 179 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 2: your rent each month is two thousand dollars, you're going 180 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 2: to strip that back to a weekly amount and then 181 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 2: set a transfer amount weekly into a separate bill's account, 182 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: so when the expense actually hits, the money is already there. 183 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: So if you know that, you know each month you've 184 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 2: got one hundred dollars in electricity bills, let's divide that up, 185 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 2: maybe it's twenty five dollars a week, and we just 186 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 2: do an automatic transfer. We're just making sure we've got 187 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 2: our own backs and that the money is already sitting 188 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 2: somewhere else. Oh it feels like it's not ours anymore. 189 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 2: When we pay a bill. Then we're going to use 190 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 2: what I call either my cash hub or a sinking 191 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: fund to avoid I don't know, financial chaos over predictable costs. 192 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 2: So like how many times? And I know you don't 193 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: do this anymore, but when you're a bit younger, you 194 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 2: were like, oh my god, I forgot that red Jo 195 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 2: was coming. Oh my god, I forgot that that insurance 196 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: was there, and oh, I completely forgot, Like for me, 197 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 2: netball registration fees are coming out and it's like, quote, 198 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: only one hundred dollars, but like only one hundred dollars 199 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: that's all I've got right now. Yeah, So a sinking 200 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 2: fund is essentially money that you're setting aside in advance 201 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 2: for expenses that you already know are coming. So we 202 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 2: know that netball fees are coming out, we know that 203 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: our car insurance is going to come up, even if 204 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 2: they're not monthly. We're thinking additional things too. Sorry, we're 205 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 2: just girls. Beauty appointments, new pairs, a runners, your best 206 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: friend's hens weekend, or maybe even Christmas. So instead of 207 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 2: just like panic buying and being like, oh my god, 208 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 2: like this month is going to be a really expensive month, 209 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 2: I'm going to have to really cut back my budget 210 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 2: and work out what the heck's going on, you're kind 211 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: of saving or pre saving really small amounts so future 212 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 2: you can then spend without guilt or stress or getting 213 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 2: into credit card debt, which, by the way, when you're single, Jess, 214 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: you and I know, really easy to do. Oh is 215 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 2: it a do as we say? Now? 216 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: Though? 217 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: Not as we did for our mistakes. Yeah, and then 218 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 2: I love this, and I already know that you love 219 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 2: this because I can see your calendar. Set a calendar 220 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 2: reminder for everything. So whether you are the default bill 221 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 2: payer in your household, or you need to renew your 222 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 2: insurance or do your registration check, automate it, then put 223 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,599 Speaker 2: it in your calendar so that we don't have to 224 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 2: rely on our memory alone, because girl, my memory sucks. 225 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: And I would say I'm a relatively smart person. Even 226 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 2: if you think you can remember it, put in your calendar. 227 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 2: When it pops up, you'll be like, oh, yeah, I'm 228 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 2: across that. It might validate you, or it might remind 229 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 2: you of something that you forgot. 230 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 3: I like to double up my calendar reminders too, so 231 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 3: like two weeks before let's say my house insurance for 232 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 3: the year will renew, I have a reminder double check 233 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 3: like your insurance, like shop around. 234 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 2: So I know I can see your calendar. It's yes 235 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 2: and color work things. And I think that you know, 236 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: if you're managing your work life that and it works, 237 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 2: why not manage your money life that way? Like hop 238 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 2: it in the calendar, pop the reminder in and make 239 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 2: sure that you're kind of like mapping out your budget, 240 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 2: because once that's done, the chances are the biggest chunk 241 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 2: of it is going to go to one thing. 242 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 3: Could that be housing? 243 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 2: No, it's the worst, isn't it? Like I feel like 244 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 2: rent has increased astronomically over the last few years, And 245 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: I guess once you come to the conclusion and understand 246 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: how much of your income's going to housing, I would 247 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 2: be asking some questions. Don't get me wrong, It's all 248 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: about values, and we're just going to reiterate our own values. 249 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 2: But is there anything that you can do to bring 250 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 2: that down? Because when you're single, if you're covering one 251 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 2: hundred percent of the rent or one hundred percent of 252 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 2: the mortgage on your own, I would say, that's a 253 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 2: huge load. And I guess this might be the perfect 254 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 2: season to get a little bit creative, Like, jess, what 255 00:12:55,200 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 2: are some ideas if I don't particularly want to get 256 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 2: a permanent housemate, because like, that's not for everybody. 257 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 3: No, And I totally get that, especially if you're going 258 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 3: through a period of change already, where you're going from 259 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 3: being in a partners being single, Like, so much change 260 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 3: a month once might be overwhelming. You could look at 261 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 3: downsizing potentially, Like, right now my partner I share a 262 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 3: four bedroom house. I don't need that for just me. 263 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 3: I could move into a one bedroom if I had to, 264 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 3: and that would save me a lot of money. Could 265 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,599 Speaker 3: you look at moving maybe further out location wise, So 266 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 3: if you're living closer to the city, moving somewhere more rurally, 267 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 3: perhaps with good public transport if you still need to 268 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 3: get to work, somewhere more urban is a really good option. 269 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 3: If you're not renting and you own your own property, 270 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 3: maybe you could rent out the spare room, like get 271 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,599 Speaker 3: yourself a housemate or airbmb it if you want to 272 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 3: dip a toe in the water. 273 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 2: I've got a friend who airbnb's their room out es. 274 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 2: They don't even own the property, they just got approval 275 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 2: from their landing. Yeah, they live near a university and 276 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 2: they airbnb the room out come exam time because apparently 277 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 2: some people travel and they don't want to during the exam. 278 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 2: She lists it during exam week. Yeah, makes her killing. 279 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: That is so clever and she like gets some extra 280 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 2: bank and like, let's be honest, Jess, exam week is 281 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 2: at the end of the year. Usually timing sorry, right 282 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 2: in time for Christmas. She's got a little extra cash holder. 283 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 3: She's figured it out. Yeah, give it a little test around. 284 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 3: It's a good way to see if maybe you could 285 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 3: do the housemate thing. I feel like it's a really yeah, 286 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 3: great option. It's totally flexible, which when you're single, you've 287 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 3: got that flexibility. You know, nobody else's routine or preferences 288 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 3: need to be considered. So you could house it, you 289 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 3: could move into a granny flat, you could couch surf 290 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 3: and live with a family member or a friend for 291 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 3: a short period of Yeah, we did. 292 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 2: Money diary like last year of that girl who just 293 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 2: pets it. Yeah, and she's like, yeah, and then if 294 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 2: I have to all pay for an airbnb for like 295 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 2: the week in between, which is like financially, that works 296 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: out so much better for me. But she's like, got 297 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: on this website. I believe it's Mad Pause. Yeah, and 298 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 2: so she's on Mad Pause. But she like books in advance, 299 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 2: and now she's been doing it so long she has 300 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 2: like this five star rating and everybody wants her to 301 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 2: like look for their pets. But she's like, oh, if 302 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 2: I have to airbnb in between, like yeah, I live 303 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 2: out of a suitcase I've got a heap of stuff 304 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 2: in a storage unit. But like, sorry, I'm saving so 305 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: much money. 306 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 3: And that's the thing is, like you can live your 307 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 3: life on your terms while you figure it out, save 308 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 3: some cash up, Like why not try something a little 309 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 3: bit unorthodox? 310 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 2: Sorry, And she's using somebody else's Wi Fi to work 311 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: from home three days a week and. 312 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 3: She gets to cuttle cutey little pets. 313 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Like if I was single again, I 314 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 2: just feel like, even like Loki, even if I was 315 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 2: living in a sharehouse, to get out of the sharehouse 316 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 2: genuinely and go live in somebody who can afford to 317 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 2: pay a pet sitters house. Sorry, they've probably got good 318 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 2: Wi Fi, maybe a few good snacks in the fridge 319 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: if they let you at them. I don't know. I 320 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 2: just have this idea in my head that people who 321 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: pay pet sitters probably have a nice house with no 322 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 2: housemates that you could enjoy while they're on holiday. 323 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 3: And that sounds like the dream, especially if you're single. 324 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 2: It's actually so funny, like complete side note. When I 325 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 2: go on holiday, our team kind of go, oh, who 326 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 2: is looking after your pets? Victoria? Because it's not about 327 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 2: having a nice house it's I have the house with 328 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 2: no housemates. Yeah, and when I'm away for the cost, 329 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 2: if you're looking after my cat, you can watch my 330 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 2: Netflix all day and not have to worry about your housemates. Yeah, 331 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 2: that's the money win and cut all the cute little kiddies. 332 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 2: So there's lots of things that you could be creative about, Jess, 333 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: But I guess big picture, housing is usually going to 334 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 2: be your biggest costs. So anything that you can do 335 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 2: to minimize it is going to free up some more 336 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 2: cash that could go do like debt repayments or savings 337 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 2: or investing or even just creating like a little bit 338 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 2: of breathing room totally. 339 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 3: And then there's your groceries, which I think is another 340 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 3: big expense that adds up so much faster, especially when 341 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 3: you're shopping for one person. 342 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. And I think that's where you need 343 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 2: to kind of, like I would say, master the art 344 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: of solo grocery shopping. And I was never good at this, 345 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 2: Like whenever I cooked, I was cooking for a family 346 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 2: of four, irrespective of whether it was just me or 347 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 2: maybe I was cooking for me and my housemate. Some 348 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 2: How I didn't have the ability to cook for less, 349 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 2: which is fine. I think some people can resonate with that, 350 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 2: but like like meal prep exactly, Well, I was always 351 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 2: eating curriede sausages. I'm telling you right now they are elite. 352 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 2: But I would say you need a strategy to not 353 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 2: just like reduce waste, but what it does is make 354 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 2: your money go further. So if meal prepping is part 355 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 2: of that strategy, money win. For me. It was because 356 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 2: I couldn't seem to understand sizes, and a lot of 357 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 2: websites actually now have the ability to like scale your recipe. 358 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen it up the top 359 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 2: of like recipe or whatever recipes dot com or whatever 360 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 2: it is. It goes like make it for six, and 361 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 2: you can like put in one and it will just 362 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 2: tell you the serving for One's so clever. I think 363 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 2: the most annoying thing for me, though, is when I 364 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 2: look at those recipes, I'm like, sorry, what do you 365 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 2: mean half an egg? Like that's just I'm sorry that 366 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 2: fried rice is now having one whole egg and it's 367 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 2: just going to be eggy fried rice? 368 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like well extra flavor. 369 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 2: Also, I've written down some tips and tricks plan meals 370 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 2: around ingredients that you can reuse, so like, again I 371 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 2: used to be bad at this. I wish past me 372 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 2: had this tip. But instead of choosing like totally different 373 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 2: recipes each night, because you're like, I'm really going to 374 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 2: mix it up, base your meals around a few really 375 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 2: versatile ingredients. We actually did a free ebook on recipes 376 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 2: from cooking with was it Cooking with Chelsea or ten 377 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 2: Dollar Meals with Chelsea. I'm going to put the link 378 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 2: in the show notes for you, but she literally will 379 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 2: be like, Okay, you're gonna buy a packet of chicken 380 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 2: thighs and we're going to do them three different ways 381 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 2: this week, so you're still mixing it up, which I 382 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 2: think is really important because otherwise you might get bored 383 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 2: or not want it. But also you're only buying one 384 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 2: packet of chicken thighs instead of one chicken breast and 385 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 2: two chicken thighs and something else and whatnot. I would 386 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 2: then also freeze your leftovers, so like I'm an optimist, 387 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 2: so I would always put them in the fridge and 388 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 2: then be like, I'm not even home for the rest 389 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 2: of the week and then have to throw them out. 390 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 2: We are freezing our leftovers because your freezer is going 391 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 2: to become your best friend, porstioning your leftovers into like 392 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 2: different containers so that future you can just get it out. 393 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 2: I guarantee you. On your microwave, like me, you have 394 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 2: a defrost option, so you don't just have to chuck 395 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 2: it in the microwave and superheat the middle of it. 396 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 2: Your microwave has a defrost option, then you heat it. Sorry, 397 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 2: why didn't no one tell me that ten years ago 398 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 2: when I was single and superheating the middle of my 399 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 2: leftover orzotto and then like eating the frozen bit around 400 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 2: the edge. What the hell? But that way nothing is 401 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 2: going to waste, and you have meals in the fridge 402 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 2: when you get home. Girl. Yeah, perfect. 403 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 3: Have you seen that TikTok of the person who got 404 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 3: I think they're meant to be like jumbo ice cubes 405 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 3: or something, but they're like biger cubes, super cubes there 406 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 3: you go, like the big rectangular ones, but they'll freeze 407 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 3: things in ingredients. So like she'll do one trait of 408 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 3: like veggies and one trait of rice and one tray 409 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 3: and then she'll take out a cube of rice, a 410 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 3: cube of veggiees in a cube of something, even if 411 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 3: she cooks them all at different. 412 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 2: Times, even if you're just doing that into like ziploc bags, 413 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 2: Like you don't necessarily have to freeze it into entire meals, 414 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 2: having some leftover rice and then like a week later 415 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 2: having some leftover curry. Wow, bam, there's a meal in 416 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 2: your freezer. 417 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 3: It's like build a bowl. 418 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 2: It's perfect. It's genius. And the supercube so it's soup 419 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 2: like as in soup, not super but super cubes. They're 420 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 2: on TikTok. I don't know how much they cost. They 421 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 2: might be astronomical, who knows. 422 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 3: But like you could find a dup. 423 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 2: You can find a dube, or you could just use 424 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 2: a ziploc bag. Yeah, like who cares? Just the concept 425 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 2: of going, oh, I have leftover rice but no curry. 426 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 2: Oh is it worth freezing it? You probably used to 427 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 2: chuck it out. No, put it in a freezer because 428 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 2: you probably have leftover curry or something next week. And 429 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 2: then we have, bam, a meal that you I'm going 430 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 2: to say, technically didn't pay for. We love that because 431 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 2: you were going to throw it out. And like, Jess, 432 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 2: I don't know about you. Have you ever been able 433 00:20:58,600 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 2: to cook the right amount of rice. 434 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 3: Never one's in my life, never one. 435 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 2: And then also we want to be I feel like 436 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 2: so many of us want to buy things in bulk 437 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 2: because it sounds good. You and I love a bulk deal. 438 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 2: But I feel like Costco is an experience. Absolutely, we 439 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 2: go to different countries, Jess, and every time we've been 440 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 2: to a different country where if we visited, just to 441 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 2: check the Costco exactly, you have to. It's a rite 442 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 2: of passage. And also your Costco membership in Australia gets 443 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 2: you into the US one and like, why would you not, 444 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 2: and they have different things because it's America anyway. That's 445 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,959 Speaker 2: not a money win. But what is a money win 446 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 2: is just because you can buy something in bulk doesn't 447 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 2: mean it's actually better for you. Yes, it might be 448 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 2: on the label cheaper per kilo, and you might go, okay, cool, 449 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 2: well I'm gonna buy a whole kilo of this, But 450 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 2: then it goes off before you can eat it, or 451 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 2: then it sits in the back of the pantry and 452 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 2: you've completely forgotten about it. I would say you are 453 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 2: literally throwing money in the bin. Sometimes it's actually better 454 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 2: to spend fifty cents more on something or even a 455 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 2: couple of dollars more to make sure that it's not 456 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 2: going to waste, and then you're not spending an extra 457 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 2: ten to get the bulk version that you don't ultimately use. Yeah, 458 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 2: And that's a really hard lesson for me to learn, 459 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 2: because I'm always like, no, I'm without a deal. I'm sorry. 460 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 2: I want to get home, and then like FaceTime my 461 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 2: friend and be like, Jess, did you see this? I 462 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 2: got this for this amount. Yeah. If you're not facetiming 463 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 2: your friends when you get a good deal, what are 464 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 2: you doing? And then also, this is a good deal 465 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 2: that like I don't know if everybody does this, you should? 466 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 2: I do this for snacks, and like if I'm like, oh, 467 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 2: I want to make sandwiches this week, We're not going 468 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 2: to the supermarket aisle where all the bacon and the 469 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 2: ham and stuff is. We're going to the Delhi Because 470 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 2: do you know what you can do in the Delhi? 471 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 2: Buy one chicken snitty dream, you can buy two slices 472 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 2: of ham. You can literally go, hey, I'd love up 473 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 2: handful of olives. The deli lets you buy literally exactly 474 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 2: what you need without having to go and buy like 475 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 2: a whole can of olives or a whole packet of 476 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 2: ham that then goes off. It is going to cost 477 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 2: you seven dollars. What the heck? Also, they do cheese 478 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 2: slice cheese. You can get like three slices of cheese 479 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 2: if that's all you need. You don't need to spend 480 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 2: ten dollars on the eager box of them that ultimately 481 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 2: dries out in your fridge because the packaging is not 482 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 2: actually ideal for cheese. I love that. And then Jess 483 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 2: I would say, when it comes to spending in general, like, guys, 484 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 2: we have to get savvy. I'm so sorry. I know 485 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 2: I said it a million times before. We're in the 486 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 2: middle of a cost of living crisis. That means that, yes, 487 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 2: you might go but I have a good job or 488 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 2: I have a good income. It actually means that financial 489 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 2: pressure is so much more on literally everybody, like we 490 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 2: are all feeling it. I'm not saying that it's all equal, 491 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 2: but like to not be able to save at the 492 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 2: moment pretty normal, to not be able to add extra 493 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 2: to our investments, to feel like every single week we're 494 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 2: cutting up fine, that is unfortunately the normal of right now. 495 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 2: But I need you don't know that, right now more 496 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 2: than ever. Spending in alignment with your i'll use and 497 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 2: your goals is really important with one income. I believe 498 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 2: it is really important to get intentional. We're not trying 499 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 2: to restrict. Yes, sometimes we have to cut things out, 500 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 2: but like, we want to get really intentional with our 501 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 2: money because we're not here to cut everything, but we 502 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 2: are here to make every spend that we have to 503 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 2: make mean something. Don't get me wrong, I know that 504 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 2: you're probably thinking, oh, feb but if I go to 505 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 2: the deli and get it, it's like literally a dollar 506 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 2: or whatever. It's from little things. Big things grow like 507 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 2: those little savings over the long term and get to 508 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 2: mean that at the end of the year, you'll be like, Wow, 509 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 2: there's an extra five hundred bucks sitting in my account 510 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 2: from the small decisions I made throughout the year. Yeah, 511 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 2: what other tips and tricks would you add to my 512 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 2: list that I've just started creating. 513 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 3: I would say, maybe look at using the cost per 514 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 3: use rule really ruthlessly. I think that route that's my 515 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 3: way of justifying things. Yeah, we've got to be aggressive. 516 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 3: When you're single, you're the only person using something true. 517 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 3: So it's kind of like if you want to buy. 518 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 3: You know, I'm going to use the slow cook. For example, 519 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 3: you want to buy a slow cook because you think 520 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 3: it'll make my life so much easier. I'll call my 521 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 3: naals in it. Great If that's true and you're going 522 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 3: to use it every day, perfect. If you're going to 523 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 3: use it to cook a meal once and then put 524 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 3: it in the back of your cupbo and it's going 525 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 3: to collect dust for six months, probably not worth it. 526 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 3: And you're the only person that's. 527 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 2: Time to put it on Facebook marketplace. 528 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 3: Sell it literally, which I think is another good one. 529 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 3: If you are buying things, buy them secondhand. If you 530 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 3: have another single friend in your friend group, can you 531 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 3: team up just because you're not in a relationship. It 532 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 3: doesn't mean you have to do everything by yourself. 533 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 2: Good point. 534 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're going away, can you split a hotel room? 535 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 2: If you are? 536 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,239 Speaker 3: You know, sharing streaming services. 537 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 2: I'm all about that. Sorry, I don't care streaming services. 538 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 2: You shouldn't be like that. We're in the cost of 539 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 2: living crisis. I'm a household across multiple locations. 540 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're my friend, we're basically family. We can share 541 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 3: a family account. Can we get on you know, the 542 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 3: shared Spotify? You know, there's lots of things that you 543 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,959 Speaker 3: can do to split a cost. Just because you're dating somebody, 544 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 3: it doesn't mean that you can't. 545 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 2: Do it with them. Did you side note, I'll send 546 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 2: it to you. You haven't seen this, but have you 547 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 2: seen the girls that are currently living in New York. 548 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 2: They're Australian and they share their finances. 549 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 3: I obsessed, Yes, I am obsessed with them. 550 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 2: I keep commenting on this stuff and I'm like, yes, 551 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 2: more of these please like also because I want it 552 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 2: to come up on my feed more often. What do 553 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 2: you mean? You guys have just decided we're friends, We 554 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 2: live in New York, we have different incomes, but we've 555 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,719 Speaker 2: decided to split. It makes our lives so much easier. 556 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 3: There's not a rule that says you have to do 557 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 3: it the traditional way, do whatever you want genuinely and 558 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 3: then last yay, i'd day. Socializing is really important, especially 559 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 3: if you are single. It can be easy I think 560 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 3: to go, oh, well, you kind of go one of 561 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 3: to extremes, you're out all the time, or you become 562 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 3: a real home body. So I think social life is important, 563 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 3: especially if it's your main source of connecting with other people. 564 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,239 Speaker 3: But dinners and drinks and gifts and events. They can 565 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 3: all really add up, and so make sure that we're 566 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 3: being creative with keeping the costs down. 567 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 2: I think that's a really good tip as well, because, 568 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 2: like I think, when you're single, you can go, oh well, 569 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 2: it's kind of like the single tax, Like it doesn't 570 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 2: necessarily have to be like can we grab like can 571 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 2: you come over to my place, Jess, and we'll go 572 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 2: for a nice long walk, and I'll make a cup 573 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 2: of tea in our little keep cups and we'll go 574 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 2: from there, Like it doesn't always have to blow the budget. 575 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 2: But don't get me wrong, I think when I was single, 576 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 2: oh girl, I really looked forward to like going out 577 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 2: for dinner with my girlfriends. It just wouldn't have been 578 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,479 Speaker 2: the same if it was always at home. Like it's 579 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 2: something about going out having a nice pasta. Can you 580 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 2: find like what nights the pub deals are on? Like, sorry, 581 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 2: I remember when I was a cheap Tuesdays wing Wednesdays exactly, 582 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 2: So we are making the most of that steak and 583 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 2: the wine deal, Like I will go to a pub 584 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 2: twenty minutes from my house happily through cheap steak ten 585 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 2: out of ten, all right, so yes, we've covered the budget, 586 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 2: the day to day stuff, but after the break we're 587 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 2: going to get into what I would says, like the 588 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 2: juicy stuff, which is your wealth building strategy, superanuation investing, 589 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 2: and how to actually grow your money when you're doing 590 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 2: it solo. You don't want to miss it. 591 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 3: All right, everybody, we're back. We've covered the budget, and 592 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 3: now let's get into the bigger picture stuff. 593 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 2: And what's building. I feel like so many women are 594 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 2: just in limbo when they're single. Like if you're single 595 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 2: and listening to this and being like VA, I don't 596 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 2: feel like I'm in limbo, like pop off, queen, I 597 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 2: love that for you, But I just see so many 598 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 2: women who are waiting for a partner or waiting for 599 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 2: you know, two incomes, to go, oh, well, once I 600 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 2: have a partner, it'll be easier and I can start building. 601 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 2: Well no, no, we want to start creating these small 602 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 2: habits now, so that, honestly, if your intention is to 603 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 2: get into a relationship and you do end up with 604 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 2: two incomes, we just turbo charged that as opposed to going, 605 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 2: oh i'll learn then. Sorry. I don't know about you, Jess, 606 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 2: but if I was single and I was starting to 607 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 2: date again and I found out that the person I 608 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 2: was dating had their financial shit together invested. We're saving 609 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 2: It was like small amounts. I'd be like, few are 610 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 2: way more attractive. Sorry, but are we not making ourselves 611 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 2: more attractive partners? Yeah? And also what happens when we 612 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 2: make ourselves more attractive, Oh, we value ourselves higher, less 613 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 2: likely to put up with bullshit. You attract what you 614 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 2: put out exactly. So if you want to marry rich, 615 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 2: become rich and it'll be easier. I love that. I 616 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 2: think that's my hot tip from this podcast. But you 617 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 2: actually have some really good advantages on your side. If 618 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 2: you're single and you don't have kids. Sorry, as someone 619 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 2: with kids, you have so much flexibility, my friend, use it. 620 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 2: You can take on higher paying contract works. You have 621 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 2: the ability to quit your job and not have anybody 622 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 2: to rely on you. You can move for a better job. 623 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 2: You can live smaller, you can spend less. You could 624 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 2: stack a few income streams and make the most of 625 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 2: the time that you've got. There's actually nobody else that 626 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 2: you have to factor in or schedule time for which 627 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 2: you know you might not want to hear it, But 628 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 2: that means that you've got fewer excuses and more room 629 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 2: to make bold money moves that are going to help 630 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 2: you build your wealth. The next thing I think is 631 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 2: very attractive, but at the time you might be like, 632 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 2: I'm sick of being single. I get it, but like, 633 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 2: embrace being the solo decision maker for a while. That 634 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 2: is so slay. You don't have to negotiate risk tolerance, 635 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 2: ethical choices, or goals with literally anybody else. Even if 636 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 2: you want to go on a holiday, there's no like, oh, yes, 637 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 2: where have you if wanted to go and you say, oh, 638 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 2: Thailand and I go, oh, I thinking Japan, and then 639 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 2: we negotiate where you're going. Sorry, You're just going to 640 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 2: the one that you want. You get to build wealth 641 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 2: based on your values, your timeline, and your comfort level. 642 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 2: One of the first things that I want you to 643 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 2: do is look at your current salary and I want 644 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 2: you to ask yourself. And it's hard, but I want 645 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 2: you to ask yourself, is this enough for the life 646 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 2: I want to create for myself when you're single. Unfortunately, 647 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 2: no one's actually topping up your income behind the scenes, 648 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 2: know like oh yeah, like I can save X amount, 649 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 2: But it's okay because we'll still go on holiday, and 650 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 2: my partner earns more, so he's going to pay for 651 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 2: more of it. So if your pay is not cutting 652 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 2: at my friend, there comes a point where you and 653 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 2: it's sad, but you just can't budget harder. You can't 654 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 2: out budget an income that doesn't suit your lifestyle. You 655 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,239 Speaker 2: actually need to earn more. And that's where you might 656 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 2: need to get really bloody good jess and negotiating. Maybe 657 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 2: you do need to pushed kind of off the edge, 658 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 2: change your job or upskill. But the first step I 659 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 2: would say is being really honest with yourself about whether 660 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 2: your current income is supporting the future that you're working 661 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 2: really hard towards. And that can be really hard because 662 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 2: you might say, V I love my job, and don't 663 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 2: get me wrong, not everybody who's single has the ability 664 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 2: to just go get quote a better job. Like you 665 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 2: might live real really and be like the I'm a nurse, 666 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 2: Like I can't just go to a different hospital that 667 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 2: pays more. That's not a freaking thing. Yeah, I get it. 668 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 2: But maybe there's a side hustle you could do. Maybe 669 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 2: there's selling on Facebook marketplace and we talk all the 670 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 2: time about boosting your income, but I think we do 671 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 2: need to be honest with ourselves because we've done so 672 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 2: many money daries about people changing careers and ultimately changing 673 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 2: their lives. Do you have to do it? Absolutely not. 674 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 2: But if you're unhappy, I'm sorry. We need to make 675 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 2: some changes. Yes. The next is kind of reiterating the point. 676 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 2: It's diversifying your income to give yourself more breathing room. 677 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 2: So things like side hustles can actually help spread the 678 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 2: risk because it adds extra cash flow without relying on 679 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 2: somebody else. Jess, I would say that you are like 680 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 2: the queen of a second income. What would you suggest 681 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 2: for our single community members. 682 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of platforms out there now 683 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 3: that make it really easy to pick up odd work. 684 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 3: Air Tasker driving, for Uber driving, for Uber EAT's Amazon delivery. 685 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 3: There's lots of options that let you pick up work 686 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 3: on it as need basis, And I think it makes 687 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 3: it really easy to set yourself up because you don't 688 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 3: necessarily need any skills. You just need a car or 689 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 3: a bike or whatever, and you can do that in 690 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 3: your own area, which I think is really turned it 691 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 3: off and on exactly, which I think is really handy 692 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 3: because you can do as much or as little as 693 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 3: you need. You don't need to invest in anything to 694 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 3: get started, Like it's all quite straightforward. Otherwise I would 695 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 3: say selling your stuff. Like there's that statistic that what 696 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 3: is it? Most people have like over five hundred dollars 697 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 3: of unused just things in their house. 698 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 2: Way back in the day, I think it was like 699 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 2: twenty twenty, Jess I was working with gum Tree. You 700 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 2: might remember this, and like they did a really big 701 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 2: and this is twenty twenty. So I reckon it's more 702 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 2: now because like TikTok Instagram, we're really over consumption. Yeah, 703 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 2: they did a heap of research and they found that 704 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 2: most people in their households have five hundred dollars worth 705 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 2: of stuff that they could sell. 706 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, so deal, it's find for things, Find the 707 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 3: things you're not using, fun things, especially if you're downsizing, 708 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 3: like we were talking about earlier. Don't just I don't 709 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 3: want to say don't donate stuff because I know that 710 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 3: it's important to support charity. Sometimes we donate because we're 711 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 3: being lazy and correct. At least give it a go. 712 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 3: I think even if you're selling something for five dollars, 713 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 3: if you sell ten things for five dollars. That's fifty dollars, right, 714 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 3: and so it Can you do a market store? Can 715 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 3: you do a clothing rap? Can you do some kind 716 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 3: of pop up thing where you can just mass clear 717 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 3: things out that you're not using. The cost per use 718 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 3: maybe is higher than it should be. Get it out 719 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 3: of there and then get some money coming back in 720 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 3: and then rent things out if you can too, Like 721 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 3: I rent out dresses. If you have tools, people rent 722 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 3: out tools. 723 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy? Like you can literally do so much. 724 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 2: You just need to start looking at what your options are, 725 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 2: because you might be like, oh, none of the options 726 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 2: you've mentioned, Jessa, what I want to do? You know what, 727 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 2: there's probably options that we don't even know about. But 728 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 2: you've got to do your research and like Google, use 729 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 2: your friend chat, GPT, use all of those things so 730 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 2: that you can kind of put yourself in the best 731 00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 2: possible position. Absolutely now, Jess, the next topic I want 732 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 2: to talk about is something I'm wildly passionate about. And 733 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 2: I say it's sexy all the time, and I don't 734 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 2: think I have many people that agree with me. But 735 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,720 Speaker 2: I'm going to keep pounding this point until it's flogged 736 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 2: like a dead horse. Superannuation is so flipping sexy, but 737 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 2: when you're single, you don't actually have that doubling effect 738 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 2: that couples have when it comes to super where you know, 739 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 2: you might retire with three hundred thousand and your partner 740 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 2: does and okay, so that now we have six hundred 741 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 2: thousand and we can actually live, you know, a bit 742 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 2: more comfortably. So that means that you have to get 743 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,919 Speaker 2: your shit together when it comes to superannuation strategy, because 744 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 2: it matters more. The earlier you either start topping up 745 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,760 Speaker 2: even a little bit or looking at your investment platform 746 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 2: and making sure you're in the right risk profile means 747 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 2: the more time compounding has to do its thing. And 748 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 2: I feel like at the moment, maybe because it's just 749 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 2: recently kind of been tax season and we're all doing 750 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 2: our tax returns, people are like messaging me about their 751 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 2: super I cannot be more excited about that topic. We 752 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 2: have a whole episode about figuring out and it dropped recently, 753 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 2: so all the stats are up to date for you 754 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 2: about figuring out how much superranuation you actually need for 755 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 2: singles and for couples, So it is for you irrespective 756 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 2: of your relationship status, and it just makes sense, Like, Jess, 757 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 2: it is something that if you don't have any cash 758 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 2: right now, and you're like, I don't have any cash 759 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 2: to save, I don't have any cash to invest. I'm sorry, 760 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 2: go look at your superranuation and make sure it's in 761 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,320 Speaker 2: the right possible position, because that is putting in your future, 762 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 2: you in the best possible position, instead of burying our 763 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 2: head in the sand, like you could change your risk profile. 764 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 2: And I know that I said this a million times, 765 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 2: but the difference between a conservative risk profile, which by 766 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 2: the way, most of us if we've never looked at 767 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 2: our super in because exactly when you sign up and 768 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 2: you get your first employee forms and you're like, I 769 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 2: don't really know what to do, and they're like, oh, 770 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 2: sign up to this default super fund. It goes balanced 771 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,240 Speaker 2: is the most common option, and you'll be like, yeah, whatever, 772 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 2: I'll just pick that. The difference between a balanced superfund 773 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 2: and a high growth superfund when you retire is close 774 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 2: to two hundred thousand dollars. That's no extra contributions, that's 775 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 2: just compounding and your risk profile. Yes, make sure that 776 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 2: you know you're not just changing it for the money, 777 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 2: and you're making sure your risk profile fits. But like, sorry, Jesse, 778 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 2: if you're a high growth investor and you're not in 779 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 2: the high growth fund, what the heck are you doing? 780 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 2: You're missing out free to change. You can put future 781 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 2: you in a better financial position without even having a 782 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 2: dollar to spend. Yeah, sorry, that makes so much sense 783 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 2: to me. So go listen to that and make sure 784 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 2: that you're obviously taking your risk profile into consideration. And 785 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,879 Speaker 2: you know, last performance is not a reliable brief future 786 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 2: performance or whatever else I have to say to that, 787 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 2: But you know what I mean, I think it is 788 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 2: so important because, like we actually have the ability to 789 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 2: put ourselves in a good financial position. Even if you 790 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 2: have no cash today, you could have no job, But 791 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 2: if you've got your super fund, you can go and 792 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 2: tidy that up and keep your financial house in order. 793 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 2: The other thing I want you to have a look at, 794 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 2: and again I'm very wildly passionate about this, is the 795 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 2: default insurance if you have it inside your superannuation fund. 796 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 2: Most superannuation funds for our audience and our community does 797 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,720 Speaker 2: actually include a default life insurance and total and permanent 798 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:32,800 Speaker 2: disability insurance cover. And that's something that now doesn't happen. 799 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 2: So like we don't get default insurance anymore, Jess. But like, 800 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 2: if you are like me and you you know, graduated 801 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 2: in two thousand and nine and had a few super funds, 802 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 2: they very likely, Jess, have insurance associated with them. Yeah, 803 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 2: as a single person, it might be worth having a 804 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 2: look at how much cover you've got. Are you spending 805 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 2: too much because you've got more cover than you need. 806 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 2: You don't have any dependents, so could you drop that? Also, 807 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,359 Speaker 2: you do need smallid income protection. I'm so sorry if 808 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 2: you told me, Victoria you have to get rid of 809 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 2: every single insurance under the sun. You get to keep 810 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 2: one car insurance, phone insurance, house insurance. God, I'm keeping 811 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 2: my income protection because if my house burns to the 812 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 2: ground tomorrow, my income is what's going to rebuild that house. 813 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 2: If my income or I get so so injured that 814 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 2: I can't work it anymore, sorry I can't pay the 815 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 2: mortgage or my house, I won't have that house. Yeah, 816 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 2: so my income to me is the most important part. 817 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 2: But unfortunately, when you're single, no partner means no backup plan. 818 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 2: You have to become your own backup plan, which means 819 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 2: in my eyes, income protection is even more important. And 820 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 2: I guess while you're at it, reassess your insurance that 821 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 2: you hold outside of supernuation because we just don't have 822 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,919 Speaker 2: that plus one safety net. So if you get sick 823 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 2: or injured, like girl, who's paying your rent? Like, what's 824 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 2: the default moving back in with your parents? Like for 825 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 2: many of that's just not an option. You have to 826 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 2: back yourself. So just make sure you are covered. 827 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you do need someone to sort out 828 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 3: your insurances. Sky Wealth, you guys know feel he's been 829 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 3: on the show recently. He's a dream. His team are 830 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 3: all wonderful. They'll take a look at everything holistically. They 831 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 3: could recommend what you can pay from super, what they 832 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,919 Speaker 3: would recommend paying for outside of Super do all the things, 833 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 3: tickle the boxes. They're really great. They make it so easy. 834 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and like that's not just like a plug to 835 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,359 Speaker 2: be like go talk to sky Wealth, Like Jess, who 836 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 2: did your insurances Skywell? And you did mine sky Wealth? 837 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 2: Like it's not because we're like, oh, go talk to 838 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 2: these guys. It's like, oh, we know because they've done 839 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,399 Speaker 2: all of ours and we test them and we love them. 840 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 3: Honestly. Their team is so so kind and your ride. 841 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 3: It's really important to get all of that stuff sorted out, 842 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 3: what's next on the list. 843 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 2: So I want to have a quick discussion about working 844 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 2: out our financial goals when we single. We're running out 845 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 2: of time because I don't want this episode to be 846 00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 2: too arduous, but I feel like we're talking about really 847 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 2: important things, Jess. Investing can obviously be a really great 848 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 2: option for building wealth as a single person because you 849 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 2: don't have to have a really big sum like a 850 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 2: house deposit. And like, to me, if you are single 851 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 2: and you're thinking about a house, like I would say, 852 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 2: that's a lot of risk to carry. I'm not saying 853 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 2: don't do it, Like obviously you're going to do it 854 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 2: on your own, but like there's a lot of factors 855 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 2: that come into play that make it a good idea 856 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 2: for you. But if you're single and want to maintain flexibility, like, 857 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 2: investing can be a really good option and if you need, 858 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 2: I guess a little bit more encouragement that you can 859 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 2: do it on your own. Studies have found that women 860 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,719 Speaker 2: outperform men when it comes to investing. Oh snaps, for us, 861 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 2: we are just better at it. I'm sorry. We make 862 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 2: more reserved decisions, We spend a little bit longer thinking 863 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 2: about things. We're a little bit more conservative. And you 864 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 2: know what, even if they're talking about their day trading 865 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,720 Speaker 2: or their fucking penny stocks, I think it's really important 866 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,439 Speaker 2: to remember that slow and steady wins the race. Even 867 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 2: if what he is trying to be like, oh, well 868 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 2: I started trading and I made XYZ. Well that's not consistent. 869 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 2: That's not going to consistently put you in a better 870 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,240 Speaker 2: position to build wealth. Also, the good news heeries investing 871 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 2: is more accessible than it's ever been for singles. Yeah, definitely. 872 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 3: There's platforms like Charesa, so you can invest with no 873 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,399 Speaker 3: minimum investments. So whatever you've got, they've one cent. Sorry 874 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,799 Speaker 3: that's a minimum investment. Well yeah, as long as you've 875 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 3: got a cent, you can do it. And they've got roundups. 876 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 3: There's all of these different features auto invest that makes 877 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 3: it so much easier for you to get started, regardless 878 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 3: of how much income you've got to put in set 879 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 3: the habit you'reing. The habit's the most important thing. Get 880 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 3: it ready, get it going. You can adjust as you 881 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 3: need to, you can adjust as you earn more income, 882 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 3: but getting yourself started over that hurdle of you know 883 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 3: it seems scary. I think is like a really, it's 884 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 3: a simple thing you can do. 885 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is like not an episode that's sponsored 886 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 2: by Shares's. It's also not like a mention that sponsored 887 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 2: by chares Is to be clear. But we do have 888 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 2: a relationship with them, which means they gave us a code, 889 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,240 Speaker 2: So SotM and you get ten dollars in your investing 890 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 2: account when you start, and I get nothing. Yeah, Like 891 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,840 Speaker 2: that's me just being like, no, the offer was originally 892 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 2: five dollars for you, five dollars for me, and I 893 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 2: was like, no, give them the ten dollars because like, 894 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,840 Speaker 2: I don't know, one hundred dollars ten percent return that 895 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 2: sounds really good, So sorry, I'll give you a ten 896 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 2: percent return, absolutely good deal, free money. I'm wildly passionate 897 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,240 Speaker 2: about it, and I just feel like investing for income 898 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 2: matters more when you're doing it solo, because when you're single, 899 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 2: there's no second super fun to lean on or shared 900 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 2: bills to have in retirement. Like, girl, I'm sorry, but 901 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 2: you have to cover one hundred percent of your future 902 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 2: lifestyle on your own. And yes, the plan might be 903 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 2: to meet somebody, but like it's rough out there, like 904 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 2: I'm seeing my friends go do you know what, I 905 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 2: can't even be bothered dating anymore, Like it's just it's 906 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 2: not for me. And they're starting to choose, making plans 907 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 2: forward on their own and if they meet someone great, 908 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 2: But like, we can't just hold our lives and wait 909 00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 2: for Prince Charming to come. 910 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,359 Speaker 3: No, and lots of women are doing it on their own. 911 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 3: People are becoming parent like single women are becoming parents. 912 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 3: They're building those labs. 913 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,840 Speaker 2: We just go without it. Yeah, Also, sorry, we're in 914 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 2: the middle of a cost of living crisis. When Prince 915 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 2: Charming comes, he's probably got a credit card debt. Like 916 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 2: excuse the way it's going to be, you know, And 917 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 2: that's like income from your investments can play, I guess, 918 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 2: such a big role. So I would be looking for 919 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 2: investments that are paying you while you hold them, not 920 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 2: just when they increase in value and you sell them. 921 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 2: So we are looking for things like dividend paying shares, 922 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,360 Speaker 2: are high yield ETFs or even ariits that give you 923 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 2: exposure to property without having to take on a mortgage. 924 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,760 Speaker 2: Like if you'd said to me, I'm absolutely obsessed with property, 925 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 2: but I don't want to buy a house. What do 926 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,359 Speaker 2: I do maybe have a look at an ariit, which 927 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 2: is a real estate investment trust, because it gives you 928 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 2: exposure to property without having to have a house deposit. 929 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 2: And that's kind of a money win I reckon because 930 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 2: when the time comes to like slow down or step back, 931 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 2: if you've already created a consistent income from your investments, 932 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 2: that can be the difference between being free and being 933 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 2: in financial pressure for the rest of your life. And 934 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 2: as someone who's built. 935 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 3: Her house repusit all by herself, gave me or. 936 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 2: Is that just like a subtle flex just from me 937 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 2: to you. She's rich. If she was single, I'd be like, 938 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 2: you should date her. 939 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 3: It's possible, though, Like you can. You really can do it. 940 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 3: And I think like by implementing all of the tips 941 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 3: that we've listed above, by budgeting, by increasing your income, 942 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 3: by doing side hustles, all of those things, it can 943 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,319 Speaker 3: be done. Like I'm living proof that it can be done. 944 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 2: One percent, And I think that so many people think 945 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,799 Speaker 2: that it's like serious sacrifice in life changing But don't 946 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 2: get me wrong, You've sacrificed a lot. I don't want 947 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,840 Speaker 2: to downplay that at all, But like it's been consistent 948 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,360 Speaker 2: decisions that put you on the right path, because like 949 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 2: once you started your savings account for your first home, 950 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,960 Speaker 2: pretty sure it wouldn't have looked that flash to begin with. 951 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 2: But like from little things, big things grow. And as 952 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,840 Speaker 2: you've said before on the podcast, you've never touched those savings. 953 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,279 Speaker 2: There's never been a withdrawal from it. So that's a 954 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 2: good thing. Yeah, But I think, yeah, you just have 955 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 2: to be slow and steady and be consistent, and I 956 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 2: mean having the right team on your side. I ate 957 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 2: us will be your biggest cheerleaders. But if you want 958 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,280 Speaker 2: to buy a house, I mean I own a mortgage 959 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,400 Speaker 2: broking business called Zella. We can literally physically be on 960 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 2: your team. And I would absolutely pump up my team's 961 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 2: tires every single day of the week because we just 962 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 2: have so many first home buyers who are single. And 963 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,120 Speaker 2: do you know how, I just get this sixth sensive 964 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 2: satisfaction when another single girl buys a house. I'm like, yeah, 965 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 2: we can do it. Yeah, so good. 966 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 3: And what about financial advice in general. 967 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 2: I think if you're thinking about financial advice, yes it 968 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,240 Speaker 2: can be really expensive. But if you're in a financial 969 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,400 Speaker 2: situation where you're like, I just need to get my 970 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 2: stuff together, I need to work it out. I would 971 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,880 Speaker 2: say seeing a financial advisor as a single is a 972 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 2: really good idea, but I would probably look for someone 973 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 2: who has other single clients and is not used to just, 974 00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 2: you know, dealing with couples. So if you're like a single, 975 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 2: high income earner, I think it's really important to kind 976 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,400 Speaker 2: of get your financial house in order, and it might 977 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 2: be worth spending the money. But like Jess, as you 978 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 2: and I have discussed before, and I think lots of 979 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 2: people know, one of the reasons I got out of 980 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 2: financial advice is because the cost was just so prohibitive 981 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 2: to the people that I wanted to have an impact on. 982 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:23,759 Speaker 2: Like I couldn't justify going to someone like you, Jess, 983 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 2: if you were single and being like, yep, cool, so 984 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 2: my financial advice visa four and a half thousand dollars, 985 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,239 Speaker 2: Like I would prefer you to save or invest that money. 986 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,880 Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, That's a very normal figure for 987 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 2: good financial advice. And I think that if you're in 988 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 2: a situation where you want to get it, go get it. 989 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,320 Speaker 2: But like I've created this whole podcast so that you 990 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 2: can build that wealth yourself. You can put yourself in 991 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 2: the best possible position. Maybe if you're looking at investing 992 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,320 Speaker 2: and you want some further handholding, don't see a financial advisor, 993 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 2: go in and go and do my investing masterclass. It's 994 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 2: literally me showing you. So I think working out what 995 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 2: works for you is going to be the most important thing. 996 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 3: I couldn't agree more. And I think it's been a 997 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,840 Speaker 3: really good episode. But it's probably about time that we 998 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 3: wrap up. But before we do, I do think it's 999 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 3: important that we just acknowledge the emotional and mental load 1000 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 3: of managing your finances by yourself. I know we've given 1001 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,399 Speaker 3: you a lot of advice and a lot of things 1002 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,960 Speaker 3: to think about, but also if you're fresh into a 1003 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 3: breakup or if you've been single for a long time, 1004 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,720 Speaker 3: that can bring up a lot of very understandable feelings. 1005 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,279 Speaker 3: And sometimes it does just feel like a slog And 1006 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 3: so I just want to say, like, we love you 1007 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,279 Speaker 3: when we see you, and you totally can do it 1008 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 3: by yourself, like you really can. Lots of people do, 1009 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 3: and I know it feels overwhelming and hard, but with 1010 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:37,920 Speaker 3: all of these tips and all of the tips in 1011 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,880 Speaker 3: the back catalog of the podcast you can go listen to, 1012 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:40,719 Speaker 3: you can do it. 1013 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,279 Speaker 2: We believe in you. I was explaining to someone the 1014 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,719 Speaker 2: other day, it's like getting out of bed. You can 1015 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 2: have a whole, really flipping good day ahead of you, 1016 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 2: but like getting out of bed, it's the hardest part. 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